Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Sierra]

Posted by Paul (here)
Oh ... I'm just sitting here at my computer, doing mod work, and keeping my sleeping cat company.

I've got a gallon of Dr. Willard's Catalyst Altered Water Concentrate sitting beside me, to remind me to tell Sierra that it's a good source of sulfates. It is a really good mineral supplement to add to water after distillation or reverse osmosis. Epsom salt soaks are a good source too, of both magnesium and sulfates. I guess that's because Epsom salts *is* magnesium sulfate.

Oh thank you Paul , I'll look it up. I finished the Dr. Mercola/ Dr. Seneff interview transcript and it sounds as if sulphates might make a HUGE difference to me. When a theory hits a cluster of diseases in a family line, you sit up and pay attention. Now I'm ready to watch the interview for the meta communication.

I'm in wintertime mode, I wake up leaking tears at 5:00 am, stumble off to the kitchen for some MSM, make my coffee, take it back to the bedroom, open the curtain, crank on the infrared lamp, settle back in bed with my laptop, stare out and wait for the birdies ... and gradually become human again. In a few hours I feel "normal" and I'm my usual virtual cheery self.

I already do the Epsom salts ... my husband boiled some eggs and I thought I'd eat some but, ugh, he likes soft boiled hard boiled eggs. He has left for four days of work and I've sent all his eggs away with him.

It is after 8:00 PM now and I have the door open to the garden. My evening medicine is rolled and I can't light it because I am skyping on three channels, and tap tapping away here

The air is so still and has been all day. Waiting now for the full moon to sneak into the garden.

Now I'll light candles and bake ...

omg Jorr! The Lovin Spoonful! Warm baby coming up ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1E4fgRvHMg

[markoid]

I was a sannyassin from 1981 to 1990. Some splendid heady, hearty days. Unfortunately it became very cultish when Osho effectively handed over the 'reins' to Sheela, his right hand person. 'The Ranch' in Oregon was a remarkable place and had all the makings of a fantastic community for the few short years it was happening. Meditating with 20,000 others under the same roof was mind blowing during celebration times. It also had all the pitfalls of 'surrender' to a master and a certain pressure to follow the paradigm, and if you didn't you were frowned upon for resisting said surrender.

[astrid]

@ Sierra, i just got out of an Salt and Epsom Salts bath,
synchro.

@ The Wizard, so looking forward to experiencing the full moon on a fast,
already everything is heightened, so it should be a blast.

I'm planning an ancestral healing ritual, should path the way nicely.

Thread energy is much calmer now, reflective,
good to see.

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by Caren (here)
Wonderful post DoubleHelix, you sound so very content and appreciative - I know of what of what mountains you speak. Best of luck and enjoy your stay
Have you tried 'Keiths'? The best and most famous Canadian beer!
Cheers

Hey Caren,

Always a pleasure to speak with you Have I tried Keiths? You betcha! As a beer enthusiast I've sampled a few drops in my time, from local brews to boutique brews and everything in between -- I would rate Keiths up there with some of the finest, maybe not to German standards but hey... they're in a league of their own

Content and appreciative would be a fair assessment, my home away from home may become a permanent fixture at this rate hehe.

Hope all's well over east.

[ViralSpiral]

Good morning village people


Here and now its cold, dark and wet. But that's just the weather, outside....


Woooooooooooooow! So many happy campers (and newbies ) around the fire, makes my heart sing!

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
And as I Skype with this treasure Modwiz now and then I feel a more substantial love in this connection today.

Fish!

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
But they both seem possesed with hats. LOL And I feel both are caretakers on this planet.

Indeed.

Posted by markoid (here)
I was a sannyassin from 1981 to 1990..

Fish!





I have watched many of Oshos videos, own a few books and at one time was tempted to dash off to Pune (after he had gone). The dogma of the robes, the hierarchy, set times as well as the "modification" of what must once have truly been "heady" times, was a tad off-putting.

One of the many blessings to come from Osho's world, are these fine people:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2EEFSB0zyE0

[Ruby L.]

Yes, reflective mood, indeed.

The way I see it, this thread became a place where people engaged in some fun and let off steam. I'd even say that the dynamics and the shenanigans between all the fun-makers here is a big reason why this thread's view count is as high as it is. I know I dropped by here every so often just for a giggle.

But wow! What a turn of events!

From my perspective, regarding all the joking and bantering that went on here: Everyone involved gave it as good as they got it.

I have to admit that, sometimes, what was considered fun here was a bit cringe-making for me: Gender wars? Being cannibalised? Putting a person through a meat-grinder?
Yeaugh! But that's just me.

Dawn, I'm most certainly not having a go at you-- but these thoughts immediately came to mind after reading the moderators' conclusion to the recent events here:

- Why the need to ban a person from a thread when they'd already made it clear that they were not returning to it? Is that not only adding insult to injury?

- And if Heyoka's bantering and joking was so "disruptive" and "annoying", why hadn't anyone pulled him up on it much, much earlier? All the joking went on for quite a while-- even Sierra was a part of it. Surely, if it was such a problem, she could've called him up on it then! Stating it as a problem now is a bit "after the fact", is it not?
(I'm also not having a dig at you, Sierra-- but just saying it as I see it.)

By Ulli's own admission, she pushed the envelope. And Tony pushed that envelope back. Maybe, there's a lesson in there for both to reflect on; that is for them to figure and sort out between themselves. But, if the moderators really felt that they needed to intervene and pass judgement on one in this story, then surely it's only fair to do the same to other, too, no? After all, it took two hands to clap.

I don't know-- will I get sent on a holiday, or banned from this thread for expressing my thoughts? Are we really that fragile as a community that we are unable to communicate our thoughts and opinions which go past the comfortable and the happy-clappy hahas and heehee's...?

Yes, reflective, indeed.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by astrid (here)

I'm gearing myself up for a reconciliation with my
Father in 2 days .

I wish you strength, courage, wisdom and love for this important meeting of hearts.


As "sync" would have it, I saw this, this morning

[transiten]

Well as far as "The Law of Attraction" goes we all have something to learn from the pple we meet whether in this thread or IRL. As for me i have been dealing with a co-dependency pattern rooted in a dysfunctional upbringing.

Not being judgemental here i just ponder the fact that so many of us asked heyoka to come back and now we learn that he has been asked NOT to by the mods.

Welcome to PARADOX

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Yes, reflective mood, indeed.

The way I see it, this thread became a place where people engaged in some fun and let off steam. I'd even say that the dynamics and the shenanigans between all the fun-makers here is a big reason why this thread's view count is as high as it is. I know I dropped by here every so often just for a giggle.

But wow! What a turn of events!

From my perspective, regarding all the joking and bantering that went on here: Everyone involved gave it as good as they got it.

I have to admit that, sometimes, what was considered fun here was a bit cringe-making for me: Gender wars? Being cannibalised? Putting a person through a meat-grinder?
Yeaugh! But that's just me.

Dawn, I'm most certainly not having a go at you-- but these thoughts immediately came to mind after reading the moderators' conclusion to the recent events here:

- Why the need to ban a person from a thread when they'd already made it clear that they were not returning to it? Is that not only adding insult to injury?

- And if Heyoka's bantering and joking was so "disruptive" and "annoying", why hadn't anyone pulled him up on it much, much earlier? All the joking went on for quite a while-- even Sierra was a part of it. Surely, if it was such a problem, she could've called him up on it then! Stating it as a problem now is a bit "after the fact", is it not?
(I'm also not having a dig at you, Sierra-- but just saying it as I see it.)

By Ulli's own admission, she pushed the envelope. And Tony pushed that envelope back. Maybe, there's a lesson in there for both to reflect on; that is for them to figure and sort out between themselves. But, if the moderators really felt that they needed to intervene and pass judgement on one in this story, then surely it's only fair to do the same to other, too, no? After all, it took two hands to clap.

I don't know-- will I get sent on a holiday, or banned from this thread for expressing my thoughts? Are we really that fragile as a community that we are unable to communicate our thoughts and opinions which go past the comfortable and the happy-clappy hahas and heehee's...?

Yes, reflective, indeed.

I must speak to this, and leave it to the mods to clear this up. I was in contact with ulli and tony over the course of the day through pm, and I am of the understanding that it was what was said through pm that has brought about his vacation and his being banned from the village. I've been torn between the two of them today, for I truly wished to see a positive resolution to all of the theatrics of today, which now I see is not to be.

Please, moderators, clear this up, for future levity in this thread may well be crushed for fear of being "too annoying or disruptive in posting" or whatever the reason was. As Ruby says, I should be ready to accept my vacation, and calz and ulli and a couple of moderators to boot, not just for what we posted today, but all along. It seems clear to me that the public stuff was fun and games, and what happened in private was the real problem, and that was just in the last day.

I know the moderators and OP are of the same mind of tony being banned from future posting in the village, but I would like to see the door left open for reconciliation between who I know are two great people, people I care about.

For what it's worth.

[markoid]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by astrid (here)

I'm gearing myself up for a reconciliation with my
Father in 2 days .

I wish you strength, courage, wisdom and love for this important meeting of hearts.

Yes Astrid, all the very best for this upcoming meeting. With the clarity of your fasting and the ample skills you have for dealing with life's challenges and your willingness to meet such challenges.. I see nothing but hunky doriness being the result. Shine on!

[Dawn]

Moderators Comment: This is a response to some good points brought up by Ruby L and Purple Lama,

Ruby, when you see a moderator decision on the forum, rest assured that it is obtained only after careful consideration. A number of the moderators looked at the posts over the past 2 days on this thread. That is when they began to become confrontational. We read each and every post so that we could understand the situation.

In order to work as a place where people can offer information, express opinions, and argue points of view Avalon needs to be a place of acceptance for these activities. The Avalon Membership Guidelines forbid posts which are negative and hurtful to the community. Personal attacks on a member must therefore be forbidden. If you go back and read the posts for the past 2 days carefully you would likely agree with our decision.

Below is the link for the Membership Guidelines: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/faq....shipguidelines

I wish to say one more thing to you. Your dissenting opinion about our decision here would never be grounds for dismissing you as a valued member of the community. This is because your opinion was not expressed with the intention of directly attacking and undermining the Forum or another member. We appreciate your input and hope this explanation of how we work behind the scenes to keep Avalon on track, will be useful to you in understanding our decision.

Use your common sense, people. Don’t attack anyone, and you will be absolutely fine!

[transiten]

Posted by transiten (here)
Well as far as "The Law of Attraction" goes we all have something to learn from the pple we meet whether in this thread or IRL. As for me i have been dealing with a co-dependency pattern rooted in a dysfunctional upbringing.

Not being judgemental here i just ponder the fact that so many of us asked heyoka to come back and now we learn that he has been asked NOT to by the mods.

Welcome to PARADOX

I also felt like leaving this thread feeling "split" btw my Neptunian and Plutonic/Saturnian personality. I can be extremely sensitive and was repelled by many of the joking posts, at the same time i can dig up the "Liliane the Reptilian" side but feel sick after that.

The beer commercial actually put me off although i pressed the thanks button? Why? I thought i might have misunderstood it and because others pushed it i thought it might be OK, well well, the co-dependency- fear of being rejected pattern again? Not that i think everyone keep track of the thanks, this is my own plutonic suspiscions, but why didn't i go with my own feeling? Spells radix Neptune conj Moon, Venus/Neptune/NN-Tsquare, Saturn conj Asc from Neptuneruled 12:th= fear of conflict, fear of being rejected, demanding to be resolved=Saturn conj Moon transit.

Well as you see and as i stated earlier i discovered i'm using this thread for selfscrutinizing whether anyone else is interested or not and for sure we don't all have the same transits so we may also be here for different reasons.

Saturn asks you to know "Who You Really Are" Good and Bad. Make Saturn your best friend and teacher and the reward will come...with Time...

By the way, isn't there a "remove your thanks button?

The snake symbolism that appeared in this thread i find interesting symbolizing both Temptation and Healing. Also reflecting the Ouroboros biting it's on tail in the Dark Rift where the Sun rises on teh wintersolstice 2012 in the vicinity of Scorpio/Sagittarius and the 13:th sign Ophiucus "The Serpentholder". A widespread myth telling something about the times we're living in.

[Ruby L.]

Dawn, thank you very much for your response and the manner with which you approached my questions-- it's much appreciated.

Posted by Dawn (here)
.... If you go back and read the posts for the past 2 days carefully you would likely agree with our decision....

After reading your reply, I did go back to read the posts again --to try to view and understand the situation from a different angle-- but saw that Heyoka's posts has now been scrubbed away. There was, then, no point for me to trawl back as the situation's now done and dusted, whether anyone agrees or disagrees with the final decision.

I have my own opinions about whitewashing and scrubbing away things that we deem uncomfortable. Sometimes, those reminders serve as a useful lesson and a marker of our processes of evolving as a community. But that's only my opinion.

Thanks the same and, with this, I'm off!

Moderators Edit: It was decided that the nasty posts should be removed in the spirit of keeping things civil here on the forum

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
with this, I'm off!

Pity. Your choice of course, and I respect that.
From my perspective I prefer not to have the vitriol displayed. It dampens the collective

[ViralSpiral]

If only............................... we could ALL dance like this, together:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CEgSlRarcC8

BREATHTAKING!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥

I just loved the giggles at the end. They "got it"!

[modwiz]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
with this, I'm off!

Pity. Your choice of course, and I respect that.
From my perspective I prefer not to have the vitriol displayed. It dampens the collective

Sometimes a cleansing hose works well.

[modwiz]

A blessed good night to the village. It is 4:45 AM here in the Catskill Mountains. A mild Moonlit night. Still I will put a few logs into the woodstove and see what is happening on the other side of the Veil.

[Ruby L.]

*Giggles* Oh ViralSpiral, I didn't mean "off" as in off the forum in a huff! I just meant off everyone's nose, here and now.

(See, I'm back! But now I'm off because it's breakfast time and I'm hungry. )

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
*Giggles* Oh ViralSpiral, I didn't mean "off" as in off the forum in a huff! I just meant off everyone's nose, here and now.

(See, I'm back! But now I'm off because it's breakfast time and I'm hungry. )

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
If only............................... we could ALL dance like this, together:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CEgSlRarcC8

BREATHTAKING!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥

I just loved the giggles at the end. They "got it"!

5oo ooo No minds. A really good start.