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    Hi, All: Here's an excellent summary article about the climate changes we're currently experiencing throughout the world.

    http://gcnlive.com/wp/2011/11/11/bar...nd-superstorms

    Unusually destructive “superstorms” are becoming more prevalent, triggering the need for new defining terminology as well as serving as a warning that we are in danger of a massive shift in climate.

    Climate change refers to general shifts in the climate involving changes in average weather conditions and changes in how much the weather varies around these averages. Climate change is driven by such factors as solar cycles, variations in ocean currents, eruptions of volcanoes, and changes in atmospheric conditions, particularly “greenhouse gases,” which include water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and halocarbons.

    According to data collected from Arctic and Antarctic ice cores, the Earth’s climate has flipped dramatically many times in the past, with the last major shift being some 5,200 years ago. Conditions that led to that climate flip are very similar to what we are experiencing today. Along the Bering Sea coast of Alaska, for example, the Arctic sea ice was at its second lowest during October 2011 according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. As sea ice continues to decrease, more ocean surface is exposed with the result being more heat and moisture available to fuel larger storms, including destructive superstorms.

    Dr. Jeff Masters of Weather Underground notes that “multiple studies have documented a significant increase in the number of intense extratropical cyclones with central pressure below 970 or 980 over the North Pacific and Arctic in recent decades.” These types of storms are predicted to increase in both number and intensity, bringing stronger winds and more dangerous storm surges.

    There have been numerous record-breaking weather-related events around the globe recently. Extreme flooding, which began in July, continues to plague Southeast Asia, with Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam particularly hard hit. Flooding also continues in parts of Africa and Columbia, where mudslides have taken scores of lives.

    Hurricane Irene threatened more than 65 million people this past August, and caused record flooding in parts of New England. New England was again hit hard by the unusually strong storm system that moved up the East Coast in October, dumping record amounts of snow from New Jersey through New York, Connecticut, and Massachusetts, leaving more than 3 million homes and businesses without power and causing at least 11 deaths. Some parts of Connecticut were without power for over a week.

    In Oklahoma, dangerous tornadoes were spawned this past Monday, just 2 days after that state recorded its strongest earthquake ever (5.6-magnitude on November 5). The tornadoes swept through the towns of Tipton and Ft. Cobb. The tornado that occurred in Tipton was especially noteworthy, as the pressure dropped 47.16 mb in just one minute, recording a low of 913.47 mb! For perspective, normal pressure ranges generally from 990 mb to 1015 mb. Hurricane Katrina (considered to be the fastest intensifying hurricane) had a pressure drop from 954 mb to 901 mb in 5-and-1/2 hours.

    Also this week, a “snowicane” battered Alaska. It was twice the size of Texas and was as deep as a category-3 hurricane. The National Weather Service called it an “extremely dangerous and life-threatening storm of an epic magnitude” due to its combination of towering waves (some over 40 feet high in the Bering Sea), hurricane-force winds, storm-surge flooding, and blinding snow. Contributing to the superstorm’s strength was the abnormally long fetch length, which is the length of the wind blowing in a single direction over water, resulting in stronger and larger waves. The storm’s central pressure bottomed out at 943 mb, essentially equaling the minimum pressure of Hurricane Irene, which caused billions of dollars in damages along the East Coast in late August. Coincidentally, the tornado that tore through Ft. Cobb, Oklahoma, on Monday recorded a pressure reading of 944 mb, essentially the same as the minimum pressure observed in the Alaska “snowicane” and Hurricane Irene.

    Meanwhile, as the “snowicane” battered the coast of Alaska, the coast of France was hit by an extratropical storm, termed “medicane” by Dr. Jeff Masters, which brought flooding rains and a wind gust of 95 mph—fueled by the warm waters of the Mediterranean.

    For thousands of years, Earth’s atmosphere has changed very little, remaining in balance to support life. Evidence now indicates a dramatic change may be upon us, and the balance is precarious. Are we facing a dramatic flip and our possible extinction, or will this change be temporary? No one knows for certain, however, current studies and computer modeling indicate a future that includes even more intense superstorms. Let’s hope the movie, The Day After Tomorrow, doesn’t become our reality.

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    Thanks, Bill! Very interesting read, indeed. Definitely hope I never experience a 'snowicane' personally!
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    If Gregg Braden is right (and I suspect he is as he is a geologist and has studied the ice core data intently) there isn't much we can do about the changes but batten down our hatches and hope that warning systems for the worse storms are reliable.

    According to the data, historically the temperature climbed first, then the CO2 followed then a quick change from a warming trend to a cooling trend happened. Expect colder and colder winters and a quick flip into an ice age.

    When can we expect the quick change?
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    Thanks for reminding, where the literal and figurative water level is at. It's wherever the collective consciousness, of which everyone is an elemental part, decides.

    I don't sweat this for a second, I do what I can to focus on balance all the time, I take care of the 3d body and have done basic preparations for many kinds of extreme situations. Whatever happens, the earth will not vanish but be reborn. The true spark, the 'I' that I can not put my finger on, will go through any situation, too, but somehow I am inclined to not just let my and other 3d bodies go to waste, there's been a lot of work put into the evolution of those.

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    Thanks Bill,
    This is another great read about the changes we are, or will be experiencing........... http://www.theexinctionprotocal.wordpress.com/

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    Much agreed here, the weather out here in the High desert of Nevada has been a whole lot more like the NW mtns of northern California over the last few years. Not as hot in the summer and wetter in the winter.
    I think what Duncan O'Finioan had said at the Awake and Aware conference this year about preparation and the climate makes a lot of sense. Prepare for colder weather and uncertainty at coastal areas.
    This new weather phenomena of snowicanes or medicanes is bad omen in my book, this does not fair well for Europe at all.
    There is not such a prominent mtn range to block and scatter the storms as the American Continent has with the Cascades/Sierra then Rockies.
    The colder temps from storms like this may alter the food supply in drastic form in the coming years. The best thing anyone can do now is learn everything you can and begin to try things out to get used to the actions necessary in survival mode, where you are with what you have and who is around you, get connected with people with like minds and discuss these things, get the dialogue going.
    Like how to purify water with very little. Or make a fire from almost nothing and so on. Or how to grow your own food indoors or out or better BOTH.

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    The Earth is constantly changing. I'm coming to the conclusion there's nothing we can do about any of this anyway, except prepare as best we can for "Catastrophe" But most of all don't panic and try and enjoy each day we are given.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    [...] “greenhouse gases,” [...] carbon dioxide, [...]
    Arrrggghhh!

    There it is, again, that mastodon!

    See it?

    Well, have a look at: this post, where I wrote something like this:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by randles (here)
    http://www.gobcan.es/noticias/index.....htm&id=144496



    [...]

    ... which generates greenhouse gas emissions in the Earth's surface.

    [...]
    Arrrghh! I hate it when political flatulence gets into the mix of smelly volcanic emanations!

    See?

    There is this big, huge, mastodon of a woolly mammoth standing in that article's room!

    ... greenhouse gases... these are supposed to be up in the air and perform some kind of magical, alchemical transmutation of sun rays so that the atmosphere heats up and we all boil or something like that unless carbon taxes save us from the frog experiment...

    So, here is the mammoth: unless I am completely mistaken... CO2 is heavier than air and collects in basements, etc... so how can it be a "greenhouse gas" up in the air?

    CO2 density: 1.562 kg/m3

    Air, at sea level and at 15°C according to ISA (International Standard Atmosphere), has a density of approximately 1.22521 kg/m3.

    Arrrghhh... politicians and science: not miscible!
    So, thrown into the mix of increased frequency of superstorms no one denies, we get the innocuous accompanying mastodon (bigger than a mammoth)... as a given, because most everyone agrees on it without verifications...

    As Bill wrote somewhere else and something advocated for a long time by Alex Collier, it's not CO2 that's gonna kill us, it's the lack of oxygen.

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    FYI, the "hurricane" in alaska is the same **** that happens every year, just a TOUCH worse by some measurements than usual....

    so I'm going to lean heavily skeptical on at least that... sounds like sensationalism and hype to me.. (probably because it is?)
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    Hi Bill.
    When my wife and i and two of our three children moved back to the family,s homestead 35 years or more ago, the winters were horrendous.
    So bad, my wife moved to town untill spring the first year and i didn,t blame her.
    The winters are still rough but something has changed, to me, it seems like the seasons have moved forward a bit.
    I used to have to keep the lane open from mid October until March because of deep blowing snow.
    Now, we don.t get snow until x-mas, we almost had a green x-mas last year.
    I have had to plough the laneway 3 times in one day before, if my 83 yr, mom or Quadrapalegc sister are on the farm you have to keep the laneway open for emergency,s.
    It is about a 1/4 mile long so that was an all day job.
    Last year i only ploughed the laneway 3 times all winter.
    Interesting.

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    Looking at the list of areas cited in the article, the first thought in my own mind is "a HAARP connection?"

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    I'm in Florida. It's sunny and 80 degrees with a slight breeze. Don't know what all the hubbub is about. It's like this most days of the year. Come join us...

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    Quote Posted by chiquetet (here)
    Thanks for reminding, where the literal and figurative water level is at. It's wherever the collective consciousness, of which everyone is an elemental part, decides.

    I don't sweat this for a second, I do what I can to focus on balance all the time, I take care of the 3d body and have done basic preparations for many kinds of extreme situations. Whatever happens, the earth will not vanish but be reborn. The true spark, the 'I' that I can not put my finger on, will go through any situation, too, but somehow I am inclined to not just let my and other 3d bodies go to waste, there's been a lot of work put into the evolution of those.
    Awesome response.......My intentions as well my friend of The Light! ~*In Lak'ech Ala K'in*~ <:W.F.:>
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    The other side of this whole argument is available at http://www.populartechnology.net/200...upporting.html

    Lead forecaster Greg Carbin of the National Weather Service’s National Severe Storm Laboratory was asked why the 2011tornado season has been so extraordinarily devastating. — Question (1): Have there been more tornadoes in 2011 than previous years?

    Carbin’s answer: “There is no indication of an upward trend in either intensity or numbers. We’ve had a lot more reports of tornadoes, but most of those tornadoes are actually the weak tornadoes, the F-0. When you take out the F-0 tornadoes from the long-term record, there is very little increase in the total number of tornadoes, and we don’t see any increase in the number of violent tornadoes. It’s just that these things are coming, and they’re very rare and extreme, and they happen to be hitting populated areas. So right now, no indication of an upward trend in the strong to violent tornadoes that we’re seeing.”

    NOAA CSI: no attribution of climate change to tornado outbreak

    Source http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/0...nado-outbreak/

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    More "the sky is falling" drama to scare those pesky sheeple into paying tax on CO2.

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    In my previous career, I had access to meticulous temperature and precipitation data recorded over a 60 year span for mountain locations in Colorado, Montana, and California. The raw data that I could see showed that the temperature and precipitation followed a pattern of 10-12 years down, and 10-12 years up. There was a total cycle of 20-24 years. ALmost never did the annual readings match the long-term averages or the "normal" baseline. If "Normal" snowfall was 350 inches, most years would group around 250 inches or 450 inches. In one set of data that I remember, the averge snowfall amount was only recorded in 3 years out of 60. I am not being so precise as to say it hit the average exactly, that there were only 3 years that were in the average range.

    (Interesting that there is a rough correlation to sunspot cycles, but not surprising since we all "know" about the Maunder Minimum.)

    In any year you could say, "We have been on a 5 year cooling trend", or "a five year warming trend", or "5 years of unstable/unpredictable weather".

    From the data I saw, there is no normal.

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    Haarp + chemtrails + evil perpetrators = climate change (and not for the good)... MHO of course.

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    Thank you Bill !
    I dont know yet how they are connected, but I have a gut feeling that HAARP and CERN and Chemtrail is part of the same thing !
    Maybe haarp keeps the worme holes in place and the chemtrails make the air dence enough !

    They are crazy people playing around with toys that can destroy the planet !

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    Something for your discernment, that I just posted in another thread, too, but it bears repeating. It's out of a 2009 article from infowars.com:
    In the 1991 publication “The First Global Revolution: A Report to the Club of Rome” by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider, the common denominator that the world would need to rally around was identified in all clarity:

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution,the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”

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