Tirelessly updating Avalon on the El Hierro eruption.

[randles]

Ramon Margalef The ship operates on the eruption area in the south of the island. | FRAN Pallera

"We ask people to trust the scientists and the Pevolca"

VICENTE PEREZ | El Pinar

The director of the Geophysical Observatory of the National Geological Institute (IGN) Carmen Lopez, El Hierro asked the public "to trust Scientific work" developed by experts who are following the evolution of eruptive phenomena, as well as the messages they are giving direction of the Emergency Plan de Canarias (Pevolca).

Thus Lopez said when asked about the feeling that some citizens on the island have, that is not providing all relevant information to the public or the actual data is altered so as not to cause alarm.

In this sense, it was denied by IGN that they had detected a previous tremor second signal indicating a current underwater eruption in El Golfo, which it is spreading in some Internet forums. "With the current data from the monitoring network there is no evidence that there is another tremor signal," says the scientist. What it has done is to install equipment by IGN to distinguish different simultaneous sources of tremor, so it made ​​clear that "if there is a second source, we are able to distinguish which is associated with La Restinga".

In IGN's campaign headquarters in La Restinga, Lopez reiterated his request to citizens to trust the Pevolca. "The management plan is still good, and there is full coordination with scientific groups, which has allowed the right steps to be taken and well implemented."

José María Blanca-CEO of this organization in the Canary Islands, 'underscores that "the volcanology requires monitoring and forecasts can be made space a few hours or days, as nature gives signals to let you know in advance what could happen" so to activate the appropriate civil protection measures.

[Hervé]

Ramon Margalef has been busy for the last 24 hours, from El Golfo to La Restingas:

Then sailed into that GPS dead-zone:

... right about then:

... the dark spot far off between the harbor jetties.

... the shiny spot almost at the horizon... gives one an idea of how far Polly is.

[Hervé]

So, what exactly is happening at El Hierro and its submarine volcano?

here is an excellent article from wired.com:

Hydrovolcanism: When Magma and Water Mix

• By Erik Klemetti
• November 11, 2011 |
• 12:53 pm |

A small explosion (possibly 20 meters tall) at El Hierro on Nov. 8, 2011. Image courtesy of St. Thomas Productions (http://www.saint-thomas.net/)


The activity at El Hierro has brought up a lot of questions about just exactly what happens when a volcanic eruption occurs underwater — and specifically, what happens if that eruption begins to occur in shallower water. This is the realm of “hydrovolcanism” or “phreatovolcanism” — when water and magma interact, either directly or indirectly, to produce volcanic activity.


A phreatic explosion on April 12, 1980 at Mount St. Helens. Image from the USGS.

In general, magma’s interaction with water comes in two flavors — phreatic, where the eruption is steam-driven, but no magma is directly involved, just heat, and phreatomagmatic, where magma is involved directly in the eruption. Phreatic eruptions don’t require a lot of water — if groundwater or snow/ice melt seeps into a volcanic edifice and heats up (typically due to a new intrusion of magma coming into the upper part of the volcano), that water can flash to steam causing an explosion (see above). Many times, these phreatic explosions are precursors to renewed activity at a volcano.

Phreatomagmatic eruptions require more water than phreatic. What happens in a phreatomagmatic eruption is usually the erupting magma is directly introduced into a body of water — possibly a crater lake, meltwater from snow or ice, seawater — and the very large contrast in heat (sometimes upwards of 1100°C between water and basalt) causes an explosion of both the water and magma. This is called fragmentation, and ash can be produced during these explosions, meaning what could have been a lava flow becomes an explosive eruption. The 2010 eruption at Eyjafjallajökull in Iceland was initially a phreatomagmatic eruption when the explosive phase started — the erupting magma came into contact with the melting icecap on the volcano and gave it extra explosive oomph — and helping Eyjafjallajökull go from being an eruption that only Icelanders and enthusiasts would note to one that brought Europe to a halt (we might term this a phreatoplinian eruption, capturing both water’s role and the height of the plume). We also saw this explosive interaction of water and magma at the 2009 eruption of Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha`apai. However, the eruption that gave its name to these events — the Surtseyan style of eruption* — was the 1963 eruption of Surtsey off Iceland. In that eruption, much like at El Hierro, the events began as a submarine eruption that eventually reached the surface. The most characteristic aspect of these phreatomagmatic and phreatoplinian eruptions is that the ash produced tends to be much finer in size than normal explosive eruptions that are not driven by water. In the rock record, peperites are likely the result of phreatic/phreatomagmatic eruptions as well.


An aerial image of the 1963 Surtsey eruption off of Iceland. Note how the vent in the middle of the tephra cone looks very similar to the current El Hierro activity -- a zone of steam and bubbling, albeit more vigorous. Image from OSU slide collection.

Now, why did the eruption at Surtsey (and El Hierro) need to get closer to the surface to produce an explosive eruption? That just comes down to pressure. The higher the atmospheric (or hydrologic) pressure, the harder it is for magma to fragment and cause an explosive. At surface pressures (~1000 mb or 1 ATM), the lower limit for dissolved gases needed to create an explosive eruption is 0.07 weight %. However, at 100 meters depth in the ocean (~10,000 mb or 10 ATM), that value is closer to 3 weight % dissolved gases, so it takes a lot more dissolved gases in a magma to cause fragmentation when there is increased pressure**. So, until the eruption is close enough to the surface to allow for fragmentation to occur, the eruption won’t manifest itself as anything more than stains, bubbling and debris. Once it gets close enough to the surface or dissolved gases increase, then we can start getting explosions to occur — the famous “Rooster Tails” or “Cypressoid plumes” of Surtseyan activity. However, there is some suggestion that large explosive eruptions can happen in the submarine setting — the so-called “Neptunian” eruptions — but they are not well understood. Once an island is established (and these can be quite ephemeral as they are mostly made of loose volcanic debris), then the activity might become much less explosive. At Surtsey, impressive lava flows (see below) were issued from the vent once it was closed off from intrusion by seawater.


Effusive lava from erupted from Surtsey in 1963 after the vent became subaereal. Compare with the image above. Note the large steam plume on the far right where the lava meets the ocean -- another example of water-magma interaction. Image from OSU slide collection.

This is, by no means, all the ways water and magma can interact, but you can at least get an idea of what we might expect from El Hierro if the eruption continues – so be sure to keep an eye on the webcams being set up at the island.


* If the interaction is with groundwater, some people call these Taalian eruptions, after Taal in the Philippines.

** This is why on a moon like Io you can generate volcanic plumes that are 100s of km tall — with some help from high eruptive rates and lower gravity.

[Hervé]

There has been only one EQ above 1.5 since 4pm GMT in El Hierro...

... and from the observations of the AVCan guy, Enrique, on the day before the 4.6 EQ:

Why the curve of evolution of cumulative seismic energy released jumps every 40-48h from the date of [September] 29? A pattern that I can not understand the cause of... certainly played this last earthquake in this pattern and would miss the second moderate, as they go in pairs, and it would be for that of the 12.00-h 1:30 am on tonight ... see what happens, but it certainly is an incredible pattern for the power curve.

If the above pattern continues... there should be another of these big ones this evening or early morning... something to brace for in any case.

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From another blog:

1. Ursula says:
   November 12, 2011 at 23:20
   Actually, to bring the discussion back to El Hierro for the moment, Enrique at AVCAN is of the opinion that most likely a submarine vent has opened in the north. This he bases on two things: the appearance of longer and longer Buddhas (“thick high value tremor areas”/spikes/wisneqs) on the tremor signal and the fact that in the last 12 hours there were only 6 earthquakes.
   There’s some discussion at AVCAN fb about it, but noone there has seen anything yet to confirm this hypothesis.
   Also another thing is that there, they are all still waiting for the next big (4.6 or more) earthquake, as, if there has been no change in the pattern, they are now in the expected window of time and the earthquake is expected until about 1-3am this morning. Unless the tremor has changed the seismicity pattern…
   So basically, it’s all just wait and see…

[Hervé]

Strongest so far (3.1 at 11:51):

For the day:

Frequencies spectrogram, the vertical streaks indicate “events” (tremors/EQs) whereas the horizontal ones reflect volcanic/magmatic activity:

From Wikipedia: A Harmonic tremor is a sustained release of seismic and/or infrasonic energy typically associated with the underground movement of magma and/or venting of volcanic gases from magma. Being a long-duration continuous signal from a temporally extended source, a volcanic tremor contrasts distinctly with transient sources of seismic radiation, such as tremors that are typically associated with earthquake and explosion.

How it's looking like now from Las Puntas de La Frontera:

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

For the last 10 days, following the count of EQs as shown by the orange bars (≥ 2.0), it now shows a definite increase in seismic activity:

New cumulative graph starting October 10, 2011. The continuously changing scales keeps compressing the earlier graphs to the bottom and to the left!

Location of the EQs for the last 10 days:

Refresh your browser page to get the latest numbers and positions.

[randles]

Lazaro at his home in La Restinga, painting in hours that are allowed to enter the village. / FRAN Pallera

VICENTE PÉREZ (Special Envoy) | El Pinar

The volcanic landscapes of El Hierro Lazarus stunned Moya, painter and Cuban lawyer who arrived seven months ago on the island and living in La Restinga. That same nature, suddenly awakened, is that has made him live two evacuations and spend the nights outside the village.

"I try to reassure my wife and my two daughters who are in Cuba, because of the scaremongering that has been generated," he says while taking advantage of the day in La Restinga to paint pictures inspired by the eruption that happens to just one mile from home . Now working on a portrait of the new volcano, which reflects the now famous bubbly stain in the ocean, on which floats a giant restingolita, as already referred to as the first rocks reached the surface from the source eruption. "Since I arrived I was struck by this landscape with its endless gray colors and shapes, which inspired me to my minimalist paintings," he explains, brush painting in oils.

Confesses to being "quiet" despite the volcano, but "down" because in the port of Los Cristianos Tenerife he had two paintings stolen from this series, which had a special predilection. Filed a complaint with the National Police, and although he saw the robber fleeing out in a van, could not give more clues to find him, though he shouted from afar: "Thanks for the pictures".

[randles]

Oil Exploration to begin within 50 miles of Canary Islands

The head of Equo listing to Congress by Las Palmas, Pilar Alvarez, has been reported that the Moroccan Government has already granted permits to start the installation of oil rigs 50 miles from Fuerteventura and Lanzarote in the area between Ifni and Tarfaya .

In a press release, the nominee has indicated that oil drilling permits have been granted to the Australian Petroleum Limiteds Tangiers, with a 75% stake in the eight permits Tarfaya up the block, and 25% for the Moroccan government (OHNYM), which will start a drilling campaign that provides 3D and two wells were drilled in 2012, as explained on the website of the company.

Tarfaya block on the coast of Morocco, has eight permits a total of 15,041 square kilometers located in the Atlantic Margin, into the Canary Islands.

For Equo candidate, "it is irresponsible to to our environment and our tourism industry to remain idle in front of a near-sea oil extraction to our islands, with the danger it represents in case of accident, as happened recently in the Gulf Mexico, where it dumped 800,000 liters of oil a day for many weeks. "

"We must demand that Morocco a degree of compliance with a minimum environmental safeguards, which guarantees protection of marine biodiversity and the absence of collateral damage on the archipelago's natural resources and enforce international law," he added.

The candidate believes that Congress should defend the interests of Spain against Morocco canaries. "Surveys can be hailed as Moroccan nuclear plans slowed in recent years. Spain must enforce the declaration of the waters near the Canary Islands as Particularly Sensitive Sea Area (PSSA), declared by the International Maritime Organization," he added.

"Equo commitment to renewable energy and a moratorium on oil exploration in the sea, negative environmental consequences that are more proven and asks the Spanish Government to act urgently," he said.

[randles]

The volcano of El Hierro, increases in carbon dioxide emissions to the atmosphere

More than four times the average considered normal. However, what worries scientists is now getting more and better data on the possible new outbreak north of the island.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGgllWnO7_Q

[randles]

Scientists are expecting earthquakes of above M 4.6 on El Hierro

Sergio Gutierrez, Valverde (11.13.2011. 8:16 pm)

Scientists monitor continuously the island of El Hierro are "expecting" that the island will register quakes greater than 4.6 magnitude on the Richter scale, a prediction that keeps the tunnels Roquille and several roads on the island closed to traffic.

The director of IGN in the Canaries, José María Blanco, already announced that the island could suffer earthquakes of 4.5 or 4.6 degrees of magnitude and it happened. Now, the scientific committee considered "expected earthquakes with a magnitude greater than 4.6".

Meanwhile, following the eruption in La Restinga and adding weight to the possibility of another eruption at Frontera, under the sea, but not ruled out either on land, this is the current situation in El Hierro, an island that remains in yellow light and the red level 1 Restinga, a town which remains evacuated and that can only go to their homes from 08:00 to 18:00.

Although scientists say the likelihood of this possible eruption in the north of the island evolve into land is lower, since the incidence of gas is not high, the distortions are less pronounced and the seismicity occurs mostly in the sea nor is it ruled out on the ground eruption, although nobody knows where or to what extent could it could take, a circumstance which has not only kept in suspense to the people of Frontera, living in constant tremor, but a whole island that feels increasingly more earthquakes .

However, the scientific committee believes that in the event of a submarine eruption in the north,''it would not have the impact that occurs off the coast of La Restinga as the depth quickly reaches levels above 1,500 meters.''

[randles]

http://www.gobcan.es/noticias/index.....htm&id=144788

IGN localized yesterday, Saturday, a total of 24 earthquakes in El Hierro with the greatest, a magnitude of 3.1

11/13/2011 ... 11:46 - Ministry of Economy, Finance and Security

* Two of them were felt by the population
* The Involcan shows a decrease in the emission of sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere by the eruption of La Restinga underwater.

The National Geographic (IGN) has confirmed to the direction of Civil Protection Plan for Volcanic Risk Islands (PEVOLCA) during the day November 12 the number of earthquakes that were registered was, 24, two of which were felt by the population.

The main event registered yesterday and was felt by the population toaking place at 15:59 hours and reached a magnitude of 3.1 on the Richter scale. This earthquake is located at the NW of the town of Frontera, 3 kilometers from the coast and 19 kilometers deep.

The rest of the events recorded are located in the area of El Golfo (municipality of Frontera), aligned NNW / SSE from the sea to the center of the island forming two distinct groups: the first between 15-17 km and the second between the 20-24 km. In total, since the day July 17, 2011 11 522 events have been found.

Felt earthquakes were as follows: 10:55 pm, 16 km depth, magnitude 2.8, 15:59 hours, depth 19 km, magnitude 3.1

Tremor and distortion level

Moreover, the level of tremor showed frequent pulses of short duration (few minutes) all day yesterday, no major changes in the amplitude of tremor in the background. In the analysis of seismic data do not show evidence of a second source of tremor in the north.

As for the deformations, the monitoring stations in the east of El Golfo show a slight tendency toward the southeast in the last week, losing to the north deformation accumulated from the beginning of the eruption. In the other seasons maintaining the pattern of deformation of the last days.

Evolution of the stain at sea

During yesterday clearly was observed the head of the eruption, no bubbling or fine material was observed.

Diffuse emission of carbon dioxide

Scientists at the Institute of the Canary Islands volcanological (Involcan) have confirmed the direction of PEVOLCA that there has been a decrease in the emission of sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere from the eruption is taking place underwater in the South La Restinga.

The results show that the emission of sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere increased from 109 ± 19 tons per day on Sunday November 6 to record non-quantifiable values ​​on Saturday November 12 since they are below the limit detection of the analytical methodology used (<2 tonnes per day). The measurements made on Monday November 7 and Tuesday, November 8 yielded an emission rate of 36 ± 9 and 28 ± 15 tons per day of sulfur dioxide (SO2), respectively. Later on Thursday, November 10 quantifiable values ​​were recorded lower emissions of sulfur dioxide (SO2) during the past week, 7 ± 6 tons per day. These results reflect an emission rate of sulfur dioxide (SO2) relatively lower than those normally recorded in volcanic systems subaerial eruptive phase as a result of a neutralization reaction between acid volcanic gases and seawater by alkaline nature that part of the sulfur dioxide (SO2) emitted by the submarine volcano south of the Restinga not reach the atmosphere and contributes to lowering the pH of seawater as well have been reflected by measurements taken by research vessels "Professor Ignacio Lozano "and" Ramon Margalef "of the Canary Institute of Marine Sciences (ICCM) and the Spanish Institute of Oceanography (IEO), respectively.

Recommendations

The direction of PEVOLCA recommends that people follow the recommendations made for the earthquakes and be attentive to the instructions of the authorities, both through the media, the telephone number for citizens of the Canary Islands, 012, and page Canary Islands Government website, www.gobiernodecanarias.org / DGSE / sismo_hierro.html and the Cabildo de El Hierro, www.emergenciaselhierro.org.

[vibrations]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

If the above pattern continues... there should be another of these big ones this evening or early morning... something to brace for in any case.

It looks that despite the "only" 2.7 of this morning the pattern continues. Let's hope to the best.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Guys (warm greetings to randles and Amzer Zo! )

I received an e-mail this morning about the dumping of nuclear waste in the general area of the Canary Islands. Below is an exact copy-and-paste.

If this is all accurate, it's pretty horrific -- though I don't know if there's any threat from the current volcanic activity. All comments welcome!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-FQRH99mJYw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-FQRH99mJYw

"Between 1977 and 1987 NEA spent millions of dollars annually to develop the sub-seabed disposal option for high-level radioactive waste: equipped with drilling gear and/or suppository-shaped free-fall penetrators (containers which would penetrate the seabed like armour piercing bullets) ships from these countries would shoot the high-level waste under the seabed.

"In the early 1980s, research cruises took place in the Caribbean (near Haiti, Cuba), the Eastern Atlantic (between Canary archipelago and Madeira Island) and the South Pacific in order to identify future dump sites and test the free fall penetrators. Of course, none of the bordering countries were informed, let alone consulted.

"The NEA's project ended in 1987. Its conclusions emphasized the technical feasibility of sub-seabed burial of radioactive waste by dropping "free fall penetrators" from special vessel to a depth of 4,000 - 5,000 meters. However, NEA emphasized the need for further, more complex investigations into several aspects of the projects.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/20876151...ASTES-AT-SEA-A

http://www.arte.tv/download/permanen...toxic-ship.pdf

http://www.biblioteca.porto.ucp.pt/d...a/pdf/cg12.pdf

http://archive.greenpeace.org/odumpi.../odhistory.pdf

http://www.portaec.net/library/ocean..._the_ocea.html

"Considerable quantities of low level radioactive waste have been disposed of in the deep ocean. Between 1971 and 1982, about 123,000 drums and other containers full of low level nuclear waste were disposed of by several European nations, of which the UK was the largest contributor, in the outer part of the Bay of Biscay, over an area of 5,000 sq. kilometers near 46 deg N, 17 deg W. A survey of the site (Sibuet et al 1985) discovered six containers, of which one appeared to be leaking.

"Between 1946 and 1965, over 75,000 drums of US low-level radioactive waste were dumped at three sites in the Atlantic and Pacific. Atlantic dumping took place near 38 deg N 71 deg W at depths between 2,800 and 3,800 meters. Surveys of two of the sites have revealed some leakage of radioactive cesium and plutonium into the environment (Dyer 1976), and further monitoring of the sites could provide valuable information on the effects of low-level radioactivity on the deep-sea environment and on the dispersion of contaminants.

"Details of dumping operations and the monitoring of this as regards crew safety are contained in ENEA (1968). Essentially the drums were dropped overboard from the ship and sank to the bottom. Impact velocity on the seabed was equivalent to a drop of < meters, and so it was considered to be very unlikely that the drums were damaged by the impact on the sea floor. Drum integrity, therefore, depends on corrosion, or failure of the seal on lidded drums. Estimated lifetimes of the steel drums vary from 15 to 150 years; for the concrete caps perhaps as little as 3 years. Concrete and bitumen waste forms are assumed to remain intact for 1,000 years before breaking up, with complete disintegration in 100,000 years. These rates will be higher for wastes containing lumps of corrodible material. Recoveries of intact drums (see earlier ref) do nothing to negate these estimates. Models of release rates of radionuclides with different containers and different corrosion scenarios are discussed in Holliday (1984) and NEA (1985)."

[randles]

Alexia Alvarez Toledo> psychological experts IN DISASTER INTERVENTION

"We can not send antibiotics with no virus"

NORBERTO CHIJEB | Santa Cruz de Tenerife

Firmness in what he says and how he says it. For one thing a psychologist and a specialist, since 1994, disaster intervention and a member for one year from the Acadepsi (Canary Association for the Advancement of Psychology). For her "El Hierro can" and notes that the media treatment of the seismic crisis is being "good enough".

- How do you analyze the situation in El Hierro and psychological impact on its inhabitants?

"The knowledge we have of psychological responses to natural disasters and volcanic effect that we get general populations that have been affected by these situations, in this sense we can say that the threat of imminent natural phenomenon of most people react with anxiety behaviors are adjusted and standardized with the passage of time. In the case of El Hierro, we see two fortresses that at least in theory allow us to do a good prognosis: first, the population density is low and, secondly, the population is rural El Hierro, the which means that usually live in interaction with their environment. Such a phenomenon in urban areas of Santa Cruz or La Laguna have been very different. "

- But we can prepare to live with volcanoes?

"The volcano is one that teaches and prepares the people, and if in places like the Philippines live with him, here you can also. The Canarian population is in the disaster, presented a slightly hysterical behavior, moderate and efficient, and in the present case, the presence of seismic activity in El Hierro can cause a change in values ​​and lifestyle of people , we can dare to qualify as a positive medium to long term. "

- What psychological help do the Islanders need?

"The professionals have the task of psychology and matching and accompanying these responses with minimum interference in the development of them. We can not take antibiotics without any virus. Another issue is all those people are suffering through their economies, living with the uncertainty of fear for their lives and property. But that is a matter of long-term consequences. "

- Have you been asked to help our association?

"In this case no, because we have no agreement established, and this can not be improvised, because this would create even more chaos and more disaster."

[randles]

Hello Bill, Goodmorning..

Thank you for your post, however, I am going to publically refrain from commenting on this (biting my tongue) until I get answers from my own sources plus the press here on the Islands, I have already written to Sergio Guitterez.


Mary Greely, is one of THE biggest scaremongerers on the youtube rounds, with poor presentation and even worse translation... all this for just 1 dollar subscription (voluntary) via paypal... Jeez !!

I hope that you have a lovely day...
To be sure... the spanish press will condemn this, and as it is now been openly posted on this thread, I can only assume that it will attract so much negativity that we will be right back where we started .........to the Tusunami Polava,,, that was presented by Simon day, denounced by Scientists around the World, Paid for by Insurance Corporations, and eaten for breakfast, dinner and lunch by closed minded people who would rather prepare for 'Doom' as opposed to walking barefoot on the sand and loving to live their lives..

I will try to keep your post here updated, and would be interested to hear what Amzer Zo's input is, as both myself and Amzer Zo RESEARCH what we post BEFORE posting, so as to ensure the clarity, certainty and direction of this thread,,

Have a lovely day

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Hi, Guys (warm greetings to randles and Amzer Zo! )

I received an e-mail this morning about the dumping of nuclear waste in the general area of the Canary Islands. Below is an exact copy-and-paste.

If this is all accurate, it's pretty horrific -- though I don't know if there's any threat from the current volcanic activity. All comments welcome!

[vibrations]

Posted by randles (here)
Atlantic dumping took place near 38 deg N 71 deg W at depths between 2,800 and 3,800 meters.

I went through the docs Bill provided and the coordinates are not right. Also as you say Randles, attracting more negativity doesn't serve.
Off course there is a toxic waste everywhere but I think so close to the islands there is a very small possibility, and the area between Canary islands and Madeira is a huge surface, so another point which talks about the NON connection. IMHO.

[randles]

La Restinga this morning... beautiful !!!

#ElHierro burbujeo en #LaRestinga #volcán pic.twitter.com/Uhly6sWu

[randles]

Absolutely correct...
On a personal note, I have been looking at this over a couple of days, after a rather 'smutty' note that I received from Mary Greely herself, and the content that was posted I flagged up privately with Amzer Zo. Last night the moderators here removed these posts and opened a new thread, which I can only assume was to put the matter to open debate for theorists and people that ..well,,, I should leave it there.. as for the posting itself,,.. NOTHING, NADA, ZIP stacks up other than other peoples ego's and their intent to increase viewing figures either through public forums or youtube channels,..

Have a lovely day

Posted by vibrations (here)

Posted by randles (here)
Atlantic dumping took place near 38 deg N 71 deg W at depths between 2,800 and 3,800 meters.

I went through the docs Bill provided and the coordinates are not right. Also as you say Randles, attracting more negativity doesn't serve.
Off course there is a toxic waste everywhere but I think so close to the islands there is a very small possibility, and the area between Canary islands and Madeira is a huge surface, so another point which talks about the NON connection. IMHO.

[randles]

Just a reminder of the webcam address for La Restinga..

http://www.hierroendirecto.movistar.es/

[randles]

Earlier this week, I wrote of a documentry that is being broadcasted tonight on rtve.es, that will be cut to live broadcasting from the Island..
The details are as follows :

BONET CARMEN - After centuries of silence, the island of El Hierro 'claims' its volcanic origin. This Sunday at 22.30 h on Channel 24H.

http://www.rtve.es/noticias/directo/canal-24h/

[randles]

El Hierro through the Earth satellite at 10.30 GMT on 13/11/11. NASA.


Map showing epicentres of earthquakes occurring from July 17 until November 8. The color indicates the depth.


Chart showing the seismicity at depth. The colors indicate the intensity of earthquakes, the green being the least intense and red the highest intensity. The red circle indicates the position of the former magma chamber. The blue circle indicates the position of one of the feeders of the magma and the yellow circle indicate the position from where would the other drawer. | Nahum Méndez López Laborda Chazarra and Casto.


Schematic interpretation of seismic activity where you can watch the feeders and old differentiated magma chamber through which the magma is rising outisde. | Nahum Casto Méndez López Laborda Chazarra.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SL4RIUrLF6Y