Conspiracy of Science: Earth is in fact growing

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[cloud9]

I also learned about this theory 2 years ago and it makes a lot of sense to me, regarding the water thing, I would say the water is being created as needed just as new species appearing when others are extinguishing.

Sometimes I wonder if the ice is melting at the poles, we haven't seen yet a rise in ocean levels, same for glaciers everywhere. Also, the only problem I see with the growing earth theory is that I don't see Atlantis or Lemuria in it. Where did they go?

One explanation could be that they went under the water when the big cracks on the bottom of the oceans opened a little more but still it seems there are no remains of them. Something to think about....

[Pete]

may be its a simply a bubble, the crust prevents the gas from escaping and the molten nature of the core simply heals the expansion as and when it occurs a bit like a loaf of bread rising in the oven.

[G.A]

The theory in this video makes a whole lot of "common sense". If I grew up learning this theory in school, and if someone told me later that our modern day theory is really the case - I would likely think they are loony. After all, everything else I observe on the planet starts small and grows bigger. Not to mention the stretch marks on the ocean floor. Most of us know about stretch marks quite personally! Why not the planet itself?

We may or may not be able to observe the earth still growing. It could have stopped growing at some point like all things we observe on the planet.

Modern day science/physics has opened doors to more questions than it is has been able to answer. Unfortunately those very questions threaten everything that is fundamental to our current understanding of things. And we all know what happens when a person's ego is on the line!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Paul (here)

For that matter, if the earth received all its heat energy from the sun, why is the core the hottest part, not the surface?

That would have to be one of the most thought provoking questions I ever saw on this forum.
Excellent question nugget.
Or is that bovinenugget?

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jeia Ra Manuk (here)
is the iron core actually proven or is it still a theory?

Well, no one has gone down there to take a sample.

But a variety of indirect evidence, such as the earth's magnetic field, and seismograph readings from around the world of major earthquakes, all fit well with some sort of high iron content core.

[Adam Greenland]

I personally think all rocky planets expand, become gas giants, and eventually stars.

[13th Warrior]

This theory also states that there is no subduction; then can i infer that that statement says that all mountain ranges are of volcanic origin?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
This theory also states that there is no subduction; then can i infer that that statement says that all mountain ranges are of volcanic origin?

I didn't listen closely to the exact words, but I'd have figured "not much" subduction, so "mostly" volcanic (or erosion of higher plains.) I did hear them say something about the Himalayan Mountain range being pushed up (not sure the exact words) by colliding land masses.

[Magnus]

Mass, created from within.. This mass, could that also include crude oil being created from within as an ever ongoing process?

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
This theory also states that there is no subduction; then can i infer that that statement says that all mountain ranges are of volcanic origin?

I didn't listen closely to the exact words, but I'd have figured "not much" subduction, so "mostly" volcanic (or erosion of higher plains.) I did hear them say something about the Himalayan Mountain range being pushed up (not sure the exact words) by colliding land masses.

At the end of the first video posted the narrator says that you can't have it both ways; you either have spreading and subduction or you have just spreading. He also references Mars and states emphatically that there is no subduction...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Magnus (here)
Mass, created from within.. This mass, could that also include crude oil being created from within as an ever ongoing process?

Yes, I suspect it could. I'd guess this would be a series of reactions, starting with hydrogen atoms, then from them carbon atoms. then chemically bonding them into simple hydrocarbons, then more complex hydrocarbons.

[58andfixed]

There is a growing acceptance of the idea.

Neal Adams is on Coast to Coast AM regularly talking about more details.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2006/03/16

Neal has a number of very good videos for people to assess his thesis here:

http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

Neal Adams is a cartoon artist.

I would highly recommend testing the ideas against some solid orthodox science, such as Mark A.S. McMenamin's "The Garden of Ediacara."

http://www.uv.es/pe/1999_1/books/mcmenami.htm



"Reviewed by Ben Waggoner, Department of Biology, University of Central Arkansas."

The test of time, collaborative critical thinking and additional narratives that are sustained by valid evidence from the broadest spectrum will determine the resolution to this relative newcomer to understanding this planet.

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Posted by Operator (here)

... but Clif High is talking about it for quite a while now. It's a fixed part of his reports now.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Paul (here)

Planets might accrete some material from meteor collisions, but that would add more mass to the surface, not from within the earth, as required to cause it to expand like a balloon. Nothing in "modern" physics or cosmology really explains the steadily increasing core mass and the hot, energetic core energies, of planet earth.[COLOR="red"]

Pardon me if this comes across as ignorant, because I just now scanned through this thread and have not watched the videos. What you're talking about here Paul is somewhat similar to the "expanding earth" that I've noticed. Wouldn't it seem logical that there is a constant barrage of minute matter hitting the earth, or any planet, and that would explain atleast why buildings only a couple or few hundred years old have to be excavated?

Also, I've been in the house we live in for 14 years, and our yard has gotten noticeably higher, as opposed to the driveway or the street.

I realize this may be a bit off of the original topic, and as I confessed I haven't seen the videos, but doesn't incoming matter make more sense in things getting buried, and therefore expanding the planet, than basically a beach ball getting more air?

I reckon it could also be both simultaneously.

Fred now prepares to watch a couple of videos, and quite possibly receive a science lesson when he gets up tomorrow morning.

Cheers,
Fred

[modwiz]

Posted by Etherios (here)
i dont understand why this will shake the science community ... can anyone thing of why?

I venture to say that the 'science' community is a bought and paid for controlled producer of 'facts' that prop up an agenda. This expansion theory moves away from a finite view of the planet. Scarcity, the holy grail of crony capitalism, is seriously weakened as a concept. It will shake the science community because they will be burdened with having to explain it away for their masters.

[58andfixed]

Another source of ideas to add to this mixing bowl: "The Core" BBC Horizon documentary.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhREYCs3vcc

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhREYCs3vcc

58m 13,026 views

Posted September 1, 2011

"For centuries we have dreamt of reaching the center of the Earth. Now scientists are uncovering a bizarre and alien world that lies 4,000 miles beneath our feet, unlike anything we know on the surface."

"It is a planet buried within the planet we know, where storms rage within a sea of white-hot metal and a giant forest of crystals make up a metal core the size of the Moon."

*****

I'm fairly certain "The Core" has been discussed in other threads on PA.

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[G.A]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

For that matter, if the earth received all its heat energy from the sun, why is the core the hottest part, not the surface?

That would have to be one of the most thought provoking questions I ever saw on this forum.
Excellent question nugget.
Or is that bovinenugget?

The outer portions of the original molten earth started to cool and crust becoming the surface of the planet as we know it, and in doing so - the crust now acts as an insulator keeping the core temperature stable.

The earth may have originally been closer to the sun, birthed from a projectile explosion from a sun, the sun may have been hotter, or any number of potential explanations.

But I would assume the only significant heat energy we currently get from the core to the surface of the planet is via volcanic activity and other such incidents where pressurized heat escapes the core through nooks and crannies of the crust.

[G.A]

Posted by Fred S. (here)
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Pardon me if this comes across as ignorant, because I just now scanned through this thread and have not watched the videos. What you're talking about here Paul is somewhat similar to the "expanding earth" that I've noticed. Wouldn't it seem logical that there is a constant barrage of minute matter hitting the earth, or any planet, and that would explain atleast why buildings only a couple or few hundred years old have to be excavated?

Also, I've been in the house we live in for 14 years, and our yard has gotten noticeably higher, as opposed to the driveway or the street.

I realize this may be a bit off of the original topic, and as I confessed I haven't seen the videos, but doesn't incoming matter make more sense in things getting buried, and therefore expanding the planet, than basically a beach ball getting more air?
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Considering we don't really know the source of matter, your guess is as good as any.

I know most small matter coming in from space is disintegrated and burned up as it makes its way through our atmosphere. Our weather system is pretty good at moving loose surfaces around from one place to another. It wouldn't take much time to lose a village beneath sand when wind is the force at work. Politics of the earth dictate redistribution of land!

Seems you have been stealing your neighbors' backyards without knowing it You do mention the backyard (loose earth) is growing versus the driveway not (assumingly not loose; concrete, asphalt, etc).

[lightning23]