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    Quote Posted by redlotus (here)
    The original oral traditions of shamanism goes back 10's of thousands of years BC, and before the word 'shaman' was adopted in the West, they were really called "khan", "han", "chan" or the variation of those vowels/sounds. These universal sounds show up not only in Central and Eastern Asia, but even in the Mayan language: i.e "Kukulkan". The knowledge and practices of these interdimensional humans made it to the West in the form of the druid traditions.
    Thanks Redlotus, I'm very much enjoying your content too.

    I'm wondering whether 'khan' and 'han' are in any way associated with 'Anu' (Celtic overarching god) and Anu (Sumerian overarching god). In fact, An and Anu crops up all over the civilised world as a 'god word' during the Neolithic.

    Sometimes we hear the word Anu in the name of a city, sometimes in a family name, or sometimes in the name of a person or a priest. So if you understand the word god as the ancients did, you will know that it's the oldest word for the sub-atomic particle or wave of Supreme Intelligence that vibrates at the heart of all matter.

    Here are the two oldest definitions of the word.

    Anu (Sanskrit) As a noun, an atom of matter; as an adjective, atomic, fine, minute. A title of Brahma, conceived as both infinitesimal and universal, thus pointing to the pantheistic character of divinity. Hence, every anu is "a centre of potential vitality, with latent intelligence in it" (SD 1:567; cf FSO 273-5, 431). In the Bhagavad-Gita (8:9) Arjuna is enjoined to meditate on the "seer," i.e., the enlightened, omniscient One, who is "more atomic than the atom" (anor aniyamsam) and yet "the supporter of all" (cf VP 1:2, 5:1; ChU 3:14, 3-4, Katha 2:20, MU 3:1,

    Anu (Chaldean) Supreme god of the Babylonian pantheon, king of angels and spirits, ruler of destiny, lord of the city of Erech or Uruk -- later Ur. One of the loftiest of Babylonian divinities, part of a trinity with Enlil and Ea, he was especially the god of heaven, creator of star spirits and of the demons of cold, rain, and darkness. His consort Antum or Anatum was mother of the gods. Anu was the concealed deity; in the Chaldean account of Genesis, he is the passive deity, however, "the primordial chaos, the god time and world at once, chronos, and kosmos, the uncreated matter issued from the one and fundamental principle of all things" (IU 2:423).

    We musn't, of course, forget Anubis who was the ancient Egyptian guide to the Underworld and this has been nicely compared by Laird Scranton, author of The Science of the Dogon to the Dogon Second World of matter - the realm of the po pilu, a counterpart to the Calabi-Yau space in string theory/torsion theory. The Dogon word [in]anu is defined by Genevieve Calame-Griaule as "the seed that surrounds other seeds at the time of creation."

    In addition, Gerald Massey has identified three Aan characters (including Anubis) in the Egyptian texts which he thinks went on to become the three Johns of the New Testament. (An turned to Jan turned to John).

    Quote To some extent, we are now able to idenfity the wisdom of Egypt in the Book of Revelations and to make sense of the apocalyptic visions, so long and so erroneously assumed to have been unveiled to a Christian named John in the isle of Patmos, for the first time since the ancient astronomy was made nonsense of in the futile and fatuous attempt to turn the hidden wisdom into prophecy intended to prove the truth of a spurious history.

    The apocalypse of John might be described as "scenes and characters from the mysteries of Taht-Aan" who was literally Aan = John, the divine penman. This was the sacred scribe to whom the 36,000 book or papyrus rolls were attributed by tradition. In short, Taht-Aan was the pre-Christian John the Divine.

    His typical bird, the ibis, is still known in Egypt as the name John. His other zootype, the kaf-ape, is Aan by name. The name of Aani signals 'the saluter'. This is the character personalised in John.

    From Ancient Egypt, The Light of The World by Gerald Massey.
    And then ~ sorry, but I'm shamelessly regurgitating some of my previous research here, but we might as well have it all ~ we have "Principles of Light and Color", Edwin D. Babbitt, 1896 - second (complete) edition. Quoted in "Treatise on Cosmic Fire", p.1181 - A. Bailey, Ed. Lucis




    Quote 1- The concept of Ether/Particles

    Matter is made of molecules, atoms and particles. Nuclear physics knows how to disintegrate atoms to release the inner particles of the nucleus. Once released after big impacts between atoms of atoms and particles, each particle has a definite speed and kinetic energy which is "signature".

    The ancient tradition says that these particles exist also around us at low speed. And that they form streams and shapes, even bodies, made of particles. These particles move at low speed and are not combined into atomic nuclei. They are free or aggregated, they form thus a subtle counterpart of our material world. There exists four levels of particles before the state of atomic nucleus. They are called the four ethers. Each object has its own counterpart of various ether levels. Then the planet has alos its counterpart, limited to a certain extend beyond the physical shape. Then all around is made of an unkown undifferenciated substance (see in the next paragraphs: koilon), which is not made of any particle, but is the nature of the so called "void". Then Ether according to the ancient is not at all contradictory with the experience of Michelson-Morley.

    The first level or first Ether is made of the very first and smallest particles of the physical world. These particles are called "Anu" and are the first building stones. Some are rotating from clockwise and others counterclockwise. The second, third and fourth level are composed of specific families of aggregated groups. Some of these groups may be found in the atom nuclei, and some form subtle materials. These material may exist individually or as the subtle counterpart of the material and objective things or bodies of the physical world.

    "The general form of an atom [note: a-tom in its first signification: which can not be cut, that is to say the very first particle, the smallest one], including the spirals and the 1st spirillae, together with influx and efflux (...) represented by dots, which pass through these spirillae. The 2nd and 3rd spirillae (...) are not shown."

    "As we have seen, a chemical atom may be dissociated into less complicated bodies; these again, into still less complicated; these again, into yet still less complicated. After the third dissociation but one more is possible: the fourth dissociation gives the ultimate physical atom [particle] on the atomic subplane [level of the first particle], the Anu. This may vanish from the plane, but it can undergo no further dissociation on it. In this ultimate state of physical matter two types of units, or Anu, have been observed; they are alike in everything save the direction of their whorls and of the force which pours through them. In the one case force pours in from the "outside", from fourth-dimensional space, the Astral plane, and passing through the Anu, pours into the physical world. In the second, it pours in from the physical world, and out through the Anu into the "outside" again, i.e. vanishes from the physical world. The one is like a spring, from which water bubbles out; the other is like a hole, into which matter disappears [note: here should be understood some material forces or streams of unknown forces]. We call the Anu from which force comes out positive or male: those through which it disappears, negative or female. All Anu, so far as observed, are of one or other of these two forms."
    I hope that I haven't put anyone off with all this ... it's just that An and Anu, I believe, were very important words to our ancestors in the context of spirituality/science which, to them (and me) were the same thing in that, going back to Einstein, the Field (energy) governs matter and the Field is made of pure Spirit. There is no separation.

    So it would be natural to put a K in front of 'an' or a Ch, as in Chan, in the same way that Gerald Massey believes the Jews put a J in front of 'an' to eventually morph into John.

    Just wondering....

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    simply, a shaman is the spiritual leader of the tribe. keeper of ancient teachings and knowledge. He is the final authority on spiritual matters. thats my humble opinion. like Creto Mutwa for example, a great man, a great soul.
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    You aren't anyone who observes me or interacts with me on a regular basis though.


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    What are mine?

    anyone? Anyone who observes me or interacts with me on a fairly regular basis could tell.
    I never look at anyone's soul or the animals interacting with them unless I am working on them...and certainly not to prove I can do it. It is a violation of your personal space and boundaries.

    If someone suspects they have a certain animal around them and tells me the animal, sometimes I can verify it for them. Other times, the animal either does not want me to know or feels it is none of my business. It is always up to the animal spirit, not the person.

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    I hope that I haven't put anyone off with all this ... it's just that An and Anu, I believe, were very important words to our ancestors in the context of spirituality/science which, to them (and me) were the same thing in that, going back to Einstein, the Field (energy) governs matter and the Field is made of pure Spirit. There is no separation.

    So it would be natural to put a K in front of 'an' or a Ch, as in Chan, in the same way that Gerald Massey believes the Jews put a J in front of 'an' to eventually morph into John.

    Just wondering....


    I have no idea if this in anyway related to this but a few months ago I noticed nearly everyone I work with on that sort of intimate psychic level had an 'ann' sound in their name. Ann, Mandy, Janet, Dan, etc. That was it though, not one else that shared really intense work with had that sound in their name. People that were really adept at medicine work all started coming in with that sound in their name, otherwise rather ordinary sounding names. It meant something. I have no idea what it means, neither has it changed save for a few more were added. I ran across a couple people that didn't have that sound in their first names bu+t where just so tuned into to things that ..... out curiosity asked them what they're middle name was....and there was the 'an' sound.

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    What are mine?

    anyone? Anyone who observes me or interacts with me on a fairly regular basis could tell.
    Hmm, with my great wizardly powers I see (polishes the crystal ball)..............Horse(s). I need to sleep now, that took a lot out of me.

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    Yes! thank you, Horses. The Nightmare and the Dream. For all your efforts I'll keep the night-mare in her stall tonight and the Dream may bring you a sweet one.

    But I wouldn't Dream of mentioning power animals without mentioning ....chickens.

    How the world gets by without a few power chickens is beyond me.

    That is why the world is in the shape its in today, no one acknowledges the power of the chicken.

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    Yes! thank you, Horses. The Nightmare and the Dream. For all your efforts I'll keep the night-mare in her stall tonight and the Dream may bring you a sweet one.

    But I wouldn't Dream of mentioning power animals without mentioning ....chickens.

    How the world gets by without a few power chickens is beyond me.

    That is why the world is in the shape its in today, no one acknowledges the power of the chicken.
    Eggsactly, it does appear the world is currently controlled by chickenhawks. Of course, appearances can be deceiving.

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    On the subject of chickens, I sometimes do what's known (to those trained in the Harner method) as a power animal retrieval. For those who've never heard of a power animal retrieval, this means journeying for people to find their power animal, which may have become lost to them, and then return it into their energy body in order to re-empower them again. It's thought the power animals can have a habit of wandering off if the person forgets about them. So a power animal retrieval returns that animal to you.

    Anyway, all this preamble is just to say that I've noted that whenever I retrieve a power animal for a person that is anything less than a dragon, a lion or a tiger or a unicorn, they are usually a little disappointed. And lord knows how they would feel if I ever bought them back a chicken!

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    I have no idea if this in anyway related to this but a few months ago I noticed nearly everyone I work with on that sort of intimate psychic level had an 'ann' sound in their name. Ann, Mandy, Janet, Dan, etc.
    My full name is Ishtar Babilu Dingir. So no 'an' sound there. However, Ishtar was one of the Anunnaki, in other words, children of Anu.

    (Babilu was the name of Babylon before the Greeks renamed it, and Dingir is Sumerian for god/or goddess. Naturally, I'm not a goddess, but the name follows the ancient tradition of priests and priestesses taking their rebirth names from their main spirit guides, in my case, the goddess Ishtar of Babylon.)
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    On the subject of chickens, I sometimes do what's known (to those trained in the Harner method) as a power animal retrieval. For those who've never heard of a power animal retrieval, this means journeying for people to find their power animal, which may have become lost to them, and then return it into their energy body in order to re-empower them again. It's thought the power animals can have a habit of wandering off if the person forgets about them. So a power animal retrieval returns that animal to you.

    Anyway, all this preamble is just to say that I've noted that whenever I retrieve a power animal for a person that is anything less than a dragon, a lion or a tiger or a unicorn, they are usually a little disappointed. And lord knows how they would feel if I ever bought them back a chicken!
    I like bats, owls and corvines.

    Bat is my favorite. Rescued one in my house from the cats. Got it in my hat with a glove on. I was able to look right into its face. I bonded with it at that moment and have felt very real affection for them ever since. The white nose disease the bats are suffering with here in the NE USA touches me deeply. Their numbers have dwindled and I cheer every one that I see these days and send loving energy to it and Bat.

    I am a Chinese Dragon. That'll do. Actually, it is plenty to deal with. Unicorn? Male chastity? Oh, probably women who go for the Unicorns, right?

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    Yes! thank you, Horses. The Nightmare and the Dream. For all your efforts I'll keep the night-mare in her stall tonight and the Dream may bring you a sweet one.

    But I wouldn't Dream of mentioning power animals without mentioning ....chickens.

    How the world gets by without a few power chickens is beyond me.

    That is why the world is in the shape its in today, no one acknowledges the power of the chicken.

    Chickens are higly under rated.


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    I hope that I haven't put anyone off with all this ... it's just that An and Anu, I believe, were very important words to our ancestors in the context of spirituality/science which, to them (and me) were the same thing in that, going back to Einstein, the Field (energy) governs matter and the Field is made of pure Spirit. There is no separation.

    So it would be natural to put a K in front of 'an' or a Ch, as in Chan, in the same way that Gerald Massey believes the Jews put a J in front of 'an' to eventually morph into John.

    Just wondering....


    I have no idea if this in anyway related to this but a few months ago I noticed nearly everyone I work with on that sort of intimate psychic level had an 'ann' sound in their name. Ann, Mandy, Janet, Dan, etc. That was it though, not one else that shared really intense work with had that sound in their name. People that were really adept at medicine work all started coming in with that sound in their name, otherwise rather ordinary sounding names. It meant something. I have no idea what it means, neither has it changed save for a few more were added. I ran across a couple people that didn't have that sound in their first names bu+t where just so tuned into to things that ..... out curiosity asked them what they're middle name was....and there was the 'an' sound.
    Hello 9eaglespirit9!

    I'm scorpio=eagle and my name is Liliane...watcha think of it?

    And Ishtar May it be that thanks to all the healing ushered in from Avalonians i'm well enough to go visit my relatives on the eastcoast for my birthday Nov 18 (viewing all threads as the "Here and Now" thread

    Going forward to Wilcock "The Source Field" connecting Us All.
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    Yes! thank you, Horses. The Nightmare and the Dream. For all your efforts I'll keep the night-mare in her stall tonight and the Dream may bring you a sweet one.

    But I wouldn't Dream of mentioning power animals without mentioning ....chickens.

    How the world gets by without a few power chickens is beyond me.

    That is why the world is in the shape its in today, no one acknowledges the power of the chicken.

    Chickens are higly under rated.


    buk !
    They are. People venerate eggs as power symbols without pausing to remember where those eggs came from. In a lot of cases those eggs came from chickens...They peck and scratch among themselves and at each other and manage to pull a few feathers from each other. Squawking, indignation, bawking. But still manage to maintain a working harmonious community amongst themselves in spite of it all, if their enivironment is healthy. With everyone monitoring eveyone else its hard to be greedy. They love to be set loose to scratch in the earth, and roll in the earth. They have an amazing sense of entitlement. And not cowards , they are quite brave in relation to their size and temperment.

    Most of my power animals have expressed themselves in my phyiscal world in some fashion or another , the remainder I don't talk about much, buts it hard to overlook the chickens and the horses when they are obviated in my life. I adore them, a regular old horse and chicken worshipper.

    Horses are fairly obvious totemic animals and my Chinese astrology sign is Fire Horse woman too-- those unfortunate umaneagle women that used to be drowned at birth because their astrology dictated the would be too ruly to be fit for gentile society.

    Horses are amazing teachers though, One of my students marveled that she had accomplished so much in her first two riding lessons and thanked me. She said it herself, SHE accomplished that. I'm just standing on the ground watching the communication between horse and rider and mediating when the communciation breaks down. Until the rider learns the language of the horse. Its always the person who breaks down the communication by sending mixed signals. If a horse gets a mixed communication it has the sense to do nothing.....lol. If the communication is good you can push the envelope , I'm just translating the communication spoken between the two ,the horse is doing all the teaching. And the rider is doing all the doing.

    My Nightmare likes to go through the fence (always at night ...lol) and tear up the roads and challenging motorists. I can only imagine what peoples reactions are when that black beast comes looming out of the shadows to scream at them through their car windows...Some people find this annoying but I think its funny... She's torn down six lanes of traffice in Metro Detroit, not a a care or fear in the world. Shes' reclaiming her power after so many years of being powerless. So spiritually I turn her out to yurky fourth dimensional places, of contructs and lies,and deceiving spirits and watch her tear the place down. She loves it. It keeps her out of trouble in the physical realms. She certainly knows who she is.

    Given the confidence a horse develops in a person they help a person reclaim themselves.

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    A few times during my meditation I have had the experience of seeing a buffalo come very close to me. The head was turned and I moved through its eye to what I think was a past life. The experience was very real to me with sight, sound, smell and feelings. Does anyone have any insight into this experience. Best Wishes.

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    A few times during my meditation I have had the experience of seeing a buffalo come very close to me. The head was turned and I moved through its eye to what I think was a past life. The experience was very real to me with sight, sound, smell and feelings. Does anyone have any insight into this experience. Best Wishes.
    What the buffalo showed you may have some bearing on 'why' the buffalo chose to show it to you. It's what the buffalo carries.

    Buffalo are very cunning clever and playful animals. Very wise. They are rather like the prankish shaman its wisdom hidden under a facade of different purpose or expression. They hide themselves very well in this placid mantle of being a sort of wild cattle. Cattle of any sort are usually regarded as being vapid and maybe even dumb but Buffalo are very lively spirits. Certain Native Americans communities place great value on them as messengers of spiritual abundance and the Celtics regarded them as spiritual abundance transformed into material abundance. Both cultures prized the appearance of white bulls. Buffalo relate to the inner child as well, having that sort of prankish, but wise in innocence energy. Wisdom of an adult but the innocense of a child energy--the inner child transformed from the wounded one that was never allowed to flourish Buffalos teach from their experience of woundedness, they were nearly decimated for surface things like their skin and horns. Having their power taken away they are a metaphor for having ones birthrite stripped of them and then reclaiming it.

    A buffalo may relate to you how its purpose was stripped down to others for superficial reasons. Once that is reclaimed one is able to receive more clearly their spiritual inheiritance.

    Like the deer that is closely related in symbolic way it will lead you down spiritual paths but one must keep in mind spirit is not always as it seems, like the buffalo. Inner child is our untouched pure spirit and its playful. Spiritual people tend to take themselves and their relation to all worlds very seriously....Spirit itself like the Buffalo is prankish, and unpredicatable .Not abusive just free-spirited. It has lessons associated with gravity, taking ourselves too seriously and not allowing that inner child expression to flow.

    You may want to study Buffalo in the Native American sense like the White Buffalo Calf Woman and Cattle, Cows and Bulls in the Celtic totemic values and see how it correlates to your experience and past life.The Cooley Cattle Raid is an interesting metaphor for spiritual to physical matters. Also eastern values of reverence for the cow, India's sacred cows. Again we have sacred cows, things we invest in far too seriously, and sometimes the Buffalo will set those sacred cows to stampeding, when we begin to make things heavy , generate more gravity that is neccessary. It keeps the inner child from expressing .

    There's more obviated medicines there like inner and external abundance, daily needs and wants, currency. Explore the physical and spiritual manifestations of Buffalo teachings and you will see how the relate to each other and then to you.

    This is your own journy between you and the Buffalo so its really up to you to find and then, most of all accept, what is being given to you. So consider what I wrote to be little nudges or directions to go in, instead of a complete translation of your expereince, that is between you and the buffalo.

    have fun with it though, buffalos are inherently prankish .

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    Thank You 9eagle9 for your wisdom I appreciate the time you took to respond. Best Wishes

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    Dear Ishtar, I have not read your full analysis yet, sorry, not much time today, but as a HUNgarian, I can respond with this much:
    We still use the word, Anu - or Anyu - which simply means : Mother. According to our ancient teachings, and beliefs, our planet was the creation/embodyment of GreatMother, or as she is affectionately called "Boldogasszony" ---- > HappyMother.
    Other examples:
    Ur in Hungarian means Lord, Kis (the other city in Sumer) means "Little or small...
    Mezo - root of the word Mesopotamia - means 'meadow'...

    UtNapIshtin (one of the figures in Sumerian Mythology) can be LITERALLY translated from today's Hungarian: Ut = Road/way; Nap = Sun; Isten = (pronounced Ishten, soft s)=God/Lord.

    Hungarian researchers have proven the common origins of the Sumerian culture (and please sit down for this) with the Seklers and Huns - Magyars (Maggi), originating from the Carpathian Basin - and today's Transylvania.

    The archeological, cultural, linguistic evidence is overwhelming at this point. Some of these findings date back 17,000BC. It was one of the most naturally protected Basins, with abundant thermal waters, rivers and rich fertile land. (BTW, it is shaped like a heart)...

    Please do not think I am some Nationalist, I consider myself a world citizen, a midwife to help Mother Earth. I have been away from my country over 35 years, and just in these later years have I come to learn of most of these details as the findings are coming out so rapidly these last 15 years.

    TPTB suppressed all ancient 'herstory', knowledge, culture, etc. By destroying Iraq (and Afganistan) the agenda is to completely eliminate all evidence of this ancient culture...

    Dear Ishtar, I will go over your analysis and respond in more detail later. Please note, I am not an authority on this subject, and my memory is not very sharp anymore. You, on the other hand, seem to be doing really deep research. Bright Blessings on you for all that.
    Last edited by redlotus; 15th November 2011 at 04:02.

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