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    I think that maybe some of you are being a little too negative. I think Fred's right. I see a change in people. People I teach are changing. They are opening up and accepting things they wouldn't have done even a short time ago. Most of them have never heard of the things we have known for a long time before so we need to be patient with them. We were sleeping once, too! When I started teaching English to an old lady 6 months ago she was incredibly conservative and believed everything the Church had taught her but she's opening up and is listening to what I'm saying now. I think we need to speak to people gently and with humour otherwise they will naturally build a wall between us and not listen. We can't rush it. We aren't religious missionaries. There is a time for every one.

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    Default Re: I have little hope for humanity

    I don't think it is wise to get angry at people for not being in sink with your level of awareness.

    Quote "Everyone who seeks should continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will be troubled at the contemplation of Truth, but when he has passed through the time of trouble, he will be astonished at the brightness of the Light, for the Way of Truth is the Pathway to the Eternal Godhead, and the price of the beatific vision is the wringing of the soul. The person who desires to rise above all things must descend below all things, for the way to the heights passes through the depths of anguish, which generate the fires of Life. The person who has suffered and found Life is blessed." (Yeshua)
    Everyone has there own learning curve, and a good teacher will give only knowledge that he knows you are ready for.
    Everyone here at avalon want's to see change, like right now. But I'm pretty sure that this will be a process that doesn't happen in one big swoop.

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    Quote Posted by AMystic3434 (here)
    I think in order for us to make the shift in 2012 and minimize the destruction on earth more people need to wake up, but it doesnt seem to be happening. People dont want to wake up. I think this will mean massive earthquakes and storms, a possible pole shift that will wipe out most of humanity. Its sad really there was so much potential for the human race but I get the feeling that we wont wake up in time. I suppose the worst thing that can happen is that we die, but there is most definetly life beyond death so no matter what happens everything will be alright.
    I'm very sorry but i'm not ready to just lay down and die. The shift has already begun...more and more people are waking up everyday. look around you.. don't wait for your government to announce anthing, keep your eyes to the skies.
    it wont be long before we meet our space brothers.

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    Although the power of unity is unfathomable… you should never underestimate the power of one.

    Great strides in humanity were inspired by the unyielding love and commitment of only a few. If they have lost hope… none of us will be here today discussing ways to further our advancement. If you have that fighting spirit… let it be known. Show it! You’ll be surprised at how many will take your side once they realize your intentions. IMO, our hang ups have to do with people having trouble shedding their fears, they are looking for leaders to provide them with examples on how to remove those blockages. Be that change so the unaware can assess the pros and cons. If they see the light they will follow and become the leaders they were meant to be. Tolerance and patience is very important. This isn't something that happened to us over night, everyone here was asleep too at one point.

    When you’re in a good sleep sometimes you become groggy and upset when someone wakes you up. Occasionally, the best approach is a subtle one. Gradually coming out of a deep slumber is better than being kicked out of the bed…at that point you are just making it worse for yourself.

    Peace

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    Yes absolutely agree kersley. We were all asleep ourselves once, for each will awaken in their own time – even if they ignore the several alarm calls. It's just a matter of time, and I believe more and more are getting out of bed every day.

    But going back to AMystic's original post, no need to worry friend. I believe there's plenty of time yet. The window could well be many years, this shift has supposedly only just begun. There's a hell of a lot more changes, events, disclosures, wake-up calls on their way. One day, sooner or later, the proverbial straw will break the camel's back, and even the sleepiest of souls will stir, sit up, and say, "wait a minute, what was that? What the heck is going on...?"

    That poor camel is straining under the growing weight it is forced to bear, it gets heavier every single day. Do not worry about wars, and cataclysms. It only needs to be single piece of straw.

    And it won't come too late. As long as there are people left in the world who, in their higher selves, want to make the shift, and are ready for it, the window will remain open. It will not close on them.
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    Well, the world is screwed up for one reason, we are corrupted within and the without is merely the external representation of that.
    So, if you want things to change for the better, the answer is quite simple, we need to change for the better first.
    Much like treating an illness, if you treat the cause, the symptoms go away as that which caused them ceased.
    Once we work on ourselves, those around us will notice.
    This can have a chain reaction affect, but it all starts with us.

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    Do you have any idea how much the external world is changeable by an internal decision? Have you ever wondered why the optimist and the pessimist seem to live in completely different worlds? Physically, they live in the same world but in every other respect they do not. The pessimist's world is sinister and unappealing while in the optimist's world, the good is unvanquishable. The world is a mirror whereby you can examine your own noumenal world; if the world leaves you with little hope, it is likely because you have given up trying to see the best. I cannot tell you how you can change this, because for a time I was the pessimist of pessimists, but now I have a sturdy part of myself that never gives in whatever else happens. I do not know how I cultivated it and even if I did it might not help you, but the thought occurs that I cultivated nothing, I just recognised what was already there.

    Find something to remain happy about, and when other people give you cause to despair, remember that human weakness is very much the hallmark of the incarnated life and that for all their weakness can be vexing, essentially there is good within them which has either been eclipsed by too much 'world involvement' or they have lost their priorities. In any case, pity them but do not revile them; but for the grace of god, or but for random chance if you prefer, you might well be in their position without regard for honour, integrity or some sort of moral code.

    Thinking rightly, nobody would prefer to be dishonourable, or to revel in moral weakness, so we must tell ourselves that these people are not thinking rightly. Truely, this Earth has many good points but even the most blissful of optimists would concede that it also has painful aspects; if the majority have gone through life's collisions and been damaged by them, make allowances for their weaknesses and for the weltschmerz that took them there.

    Cultivate a sense of optimism and forgiveness for the weaknesses and frailties of others and, while it won't make life a bed of roses, it will make it a lot easier to navigate, it will give you an inner serenity to which to retreat when times are hard and it will literally change your entire world, since everything you know of the world is not only based upon the world, but is filtered by your perception; changing your perception of the world might not change the world in some abstract sense of objectivity, but it will change the world as it relates to you.

    I hope you get over your hopelessness.
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    Are we divine enough to manufacture a happy ending. Are timelines tangible scenarios or illusory ones.....The Hindus say that 2012 marks the end of Kali Yuga, the degenerate era. Buddhism says that 2012 closes the cycle of time related to consciousness change.

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    Quote Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
    Although the power of unity is unfathomable… you should never underestimate the power of one.

    Great strides in humanity were inspired by the unyielding love and commitment of only a few. If they have lost hope… none of us will be here today discussing ways to further our advancement. If you have that fighting spirit… let it be known. Show it! You’ll be surprised at how many will take your side once they realize your intentions. IMO, our hang ups have to do with people having trouble shedding their fears, they are looking for leaders to provide them with examples on how to remove those blockages. Be that change so the unaware can assess the pros and cons. If they see the light they will follow and become the leaders they were meant to be. Tolerance and patience is very important. This isn't something that happened to us over night, everyone here was asleep too at one point.

    When you’re in a good sleep sometimes you become groggy and upset when someone wakes you up. Occasionally, the best approach is a subtle one. Gradually coming out of a deep slumber is better than being kicked out of the bed…at that point you are just making it worse for yourself.

    Peace
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Well, the world is screwed up for one reason, we are corrupted within and the without is merely the external representation of that.
    So, if you want things to change for the better, the answer is quite simple, we need to change for the better first.
    Much like treating an illness, if you treat the cause, the symptoms go away as that which caused them ceased.
    Once we work on ourselves, those around us will notice.
    This can have a chain reaction affect, but it all starts with us.
    Quote Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
    Do you have any idea how much the external world is changeable by an internal decision? Have you ever wondered why the optimist and the pessimist seem to live in completely different worlds? Physically, they live in the same world but in every other respect they do not. The pessimist's world is sinister and unappealing while in the optimist's world, the good is unvanquishable. The world is a mirror whereby you can examine your own noumenal world; if the world leaves you with little hope, it is likely because you have given up trying to see the best. I cannot tell you how you can change this, because for a time I was the pessimist of pessimists, but now I have a sturdy part of myself that never gives in whatever else happens. I do not know how I cultivated it and even if I did it might not help you, but the thought occurs that I cultivated nothing, I just recognised what was already there.

    Find something to remain happy about, and when other people give you cause to despair, remember that human weakness is very much the hallmark of the incarnated life and that for all their weakness can be vexing, essentially there is good within them which has either been eclipsed by too much 'world involvement' or they have lost their priorities. In any case, pity them but do not revile them; but for the grace of god, or but for random chance if you prefer, you might well be in their position without regard for honour, integrity or some sort of moral code.

    Thinking rightly, nobody would prefer to be dishonourable, or to revel in moral weakness, so we must tell ourselves that these people are not thinking rightly. Truely, this Earth has many good points but even the most blissful of optimists would concede that it also has painful aspects; if the majority have gone through life's collisions and been damaged by them, make allowances for their weaknesses and for the weltschmerz that took them there.

    Cultivate a sense of optimism and forgiveness for the weaknesses and frailties of others and, while it won't make life a bed of roses, it will make it a lot easier to navigate, it will give you an inner serenity to which to retreat when times are hard and it will literally change your entire world, since everything you know of the world is not only based upon the world, but is filtered by your perception; changing your perception of the world might not change the world in some abstract sense of objectivity, but it will change the world as it relates to you.

    I hope you get over your hopelessness.

    Was going to put my point of view, but your other parts of us have already spoken my words.

    As it should be.

    Will say that even conversing with the most confrontational 'asleep' of us, all I can hear is:




    How can you see into my eyes like open doors?
    Leading you down into my core where I've become so numb
    Without a soul, my spirit sleeping somewhere cold

    Until you find it there and lead it back home

    Wake me up
    (Wake me up inside)
    I can't wake up
    (Wake me up inside)
    Save me
    (Call my name and save me from the dark)

    Wake me up
    (Bid my blood to run)
    I can't wake up
    (Before I come undone)
    Save me
    (Save me from the nothing I've become)

    Now that I know what I'm without
    You can't just leave me
    Breathe into me and make me real
    Bring me to life

    Wake me up
    (Wake me up inside)
    I can't wake up
    (Wake me up inside)
    Save me
    (Call my name and save me from the dark)

    Wake me up
    (Bid my blood to run)
    I can't wake up
    (Before I come undone)
    Save me
    (Save me from the nothing I've become)

    I've been living a lie
    There's nothing inside
    Bring me to life


    Frozen inside without your touch
    Without your love, darling
    Only you are the life among the dead

    All this time, I can't believe I couldn't see
    Kept in the dark but you were there in front of me
    I've been sleeping a thousand years it seems
    Got to open my eyes to everything


    Without thought, without voice, without a soul
    Don't let me die here
    There must be something more
    Bring me to life

    Wake me up

    (Wake me up inside)
    I can't wake up
    (Wake me up inside)
    Save me
    (Call my name and save me from the dark)

    Wake me up
    (Bid my blood to run)
    I can't wake up
    (Before I come undone)
    Save me
    (Save me from the nothing I've become)

    I've been living a lie
    There's nothing inside
    Bring me to life



    With all love
    Normal..!

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    When I communicate with kindred spirits, I feel that the world is changing, people are awakening, there is hope!
    When I communicate with the world out there, I feel that the more things seem to change, the more they stay the same. Sad! Sad! Sad!
    The majority of the inhabitants on this planet do not seem to want to change. Maybe they think they're happy in their comfort zones, even if their comfort zones are filled with chaos.
    I don't know whether humans themselves should be blamed for their obstinacy or whether we, as earthlings, are being horribly manipulated by other inter-galactic races who feed on our states of turmoil.
    And I believe that 2012 will be a year like any other year, only, perhaps, a little bit worse! This is not pessimism on my part. I just don't see how the planet, as a whole, can become so spiritually advanced and consciously aware all of a sudden.
    Let's do our part in bringing as much light to those around us as we can. That's all, I think, we can do.

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    Quote Posted by AMystic3434 (here)
    Its sad really there was so much potential for the human race but I get the feeling that we wont wake up in time.

    If we are waking up to the fact that we are eternal, timeless beings, it makes no sense that we have to do it "in time".

    The only time we can ever change anything is here in the present moment as it is unfolding - Now. When we wake up to this, this is the best hope for all of humanity. What better way to point others to their true nature by showing them it is not found in their past stuff or the future projections and fears.

    Feelings come and go. Always.

    All feelings have opposites and each opposite cannot be felt without the other. Without hope, we would not know despair. Without despair, we would not know hope. This is the One we are waking up to.

    Despair is understandable with how things are in the world but if despair is arising in this moment, then it is to be felt - it is only this moment unfolding in the Now.
    Feeling it, allows its expression fully. And once it is expressed, it is gone.
    And then room is made for its opposite, hope, to be felt. Like the ebb and flow of the tide.

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    The shift doesn't require a better intellect, but rather a kinder heart and more friendly and compassionate approach. Theses qualities are the basis of being at ease, and being at ease one can have clarity about life, people and choices.

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    Nothing "happens" to people. All exists in the eternal moment. Attempting to orient oneself using exterior points of reference is like a tiger chasing its tail! You are the thing you are looking for. Resonate with the divinity within and the world is a Holy place. No one gets out alive anyway! Peace.

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    I think there is still alot hope for humanity. Nothing has been actually lost. In fact, like Charlie Sheen would say it... We are winning!

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    I really hate to say it, but I too, have pretty much given up on not people, but society. That IMO is our biggest failure.

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    And his name will be 'Skippy', for he will be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    If you recognize this bit then congratulations!.... you have been given 'the word', and it is within you....

    But seriously.

    IF, a jackbooted thug..is beating you to death while another is drowning your child, you won't reach for the paradigm you know. which is the jackbooted thug that is beating..etc.

    And that is pretty darned well exactly where the entire world is right now. Southern baptist minister to Icelandic child, all the same.

    They know this, in these times.

    nowadays everyone has heard of the alternatives. they've heard of the other potentials, even if they think it is all ca-ca.

    So, when being waterboarded, do you think the jackboot is going to save you, or the thing in the corner of your mind which you've thought of, that you are at the very least...aware of?

    So when push comes to shove, no jackbooted thuggery is going to work anymore.

    Not anywhere as near as effective as before.

    THIS THING in front of you, this internet, has ruined it all, for them.

    Everyone from the Icelandic kid to the southern baptist minister..has a conspiracy freak that they know of, in some way.

    The connections really are primed and pumped.

    As for Asians who might be in china, thy are well aware of thuggery. Hell, their relatives who lived with it are still in the house. Similar for the rest of Asia.

    As for the middle east, they KNOW. they live it....and are not interested in more nastiness.

    Even deepest soviet Russia has internet and posts weird videos on UFO's and the like.

    EVERYONE knows something about it. Everyone is primed.

    The least prepared is deep Africa, as my first guess. And even that is changing.

    If the universe throws them a bone, I can guranfrikintee you that people will take it.

    There are very very few people these days whom you could say 'UFO' to and have them react in ignorance. This is heady stuff.
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    imagine going into the lunch room, at the local factory..and saying in total Ernest : Obama is showing us an alien! on national TV! HOLY CRAP!. then running to the TV in another room.

    Everyone would run to see. Even if you are just ''having them on".

    THAT is how close we are.

    Think about it. It is so close that the majority would run to the TV room ......BEFORE dismissing it. NOT after.

    That is a huge change.
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