Richard Hoagland

[noprophet]

I just closed the chat tab during the talk. Just a bunch of childish trolls. They'll always be there - best to just ignore them.

[meredith]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
There is an entire sub-discipline of geology called structural geology. Geology does use the term "structure" to describe natural formations.

I did not know that. I too was reading nuances in the term "strange structures" but now I'm rethinking it. It's odd for PR people to allow such a phrase in a press release specifically because of the potential misinterpretation, but maybe this is just one of those cases where lingo slips through to the general public without PR rephrasing.

Or not...who knows, really?

[drizzt]

Well, with all the scare of yu55, 2012, and so on, the good old US of A had to try out the national EAS. the emergency alarm scare!!! they found out which cable station, tv, and radio station's that are not complying with governmental orders. even when they are told to do so in advance. lol. i think this is a crash course of a globular warning system to come to make all scare at same time instead of just one time zone at a time.

so when the aliens invade everyone will know at one time. (or the NWO)

[Daft Ada]

Wow! this should make some sparks fly, I have read all 12 pages and I can't see how Hoagland can ignor the accusations in this and I think he will either have to take some legal action or come clean?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1427/...SplittedPage=1

[Lord Sidious]

Not looking good for hoagland if all that is accurate.

[Daft Ada]

Hi Sid mate Well I would have thought that they would be fully aware of the consequences of publishing lies, so they must believe it to be the truth. You're the expert in that sort of thing, what say you?

[Lord Sidious]

If things can be proved to be lies, you are in payday city.

[Daft Ada]

I thought that would be the case, it will certainly be interesting to see what developes

[Cidersomerset]

Its a shame as I like Richard, but some of his comments have been odd lately..I listen to him a lot and on coast the other night while talking about the Russian/chinese rocket
in space.He said something on the lines that it if they got it working it had missed its window for Phoebus.But may be sent to examine a comet and the only one available
would be you guessed it YU=55.I burst out laughing !! maybe he is looking to supplement his pension plan...

We all know Richard and he is very entertaining and loves to speculate and the trouble is everything he says sounds authoritve....This is not the clip I was referring to above, but a earlier one where he speculates we may have to shoot it down or get covered in something nasty !!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_EzVPpCd4xk

[norman]

It certainly fits perfectly with the way I feel so bamboozled every time I hear Hoagland going on about numeric coincidences.

[Cidersomerset]

Heres the one.....2 mins into the show George switches to Richard and he speculates about poss change of plan its self explanatory. only about 5 mins . George asks whether the CIA may have interfered with it. Again its only speculation..

https://youtube.com/user/MrSuperp.../0/klkyVeDg3Rw

I think there is just to much air time to fill....So maybe we will have to adjust our expectations.....Plus I don't think disclosure will come from 'Dark Mission' or 'Coast
in the forseeble future.....steve

[baddbob]

does this mean i can unpack my cloths cause the "ship" isnt going to land ?

[Limor Wolf]

Those are quite serious accusations.However,there is a tone of sincerity in it,and it feels like there's a strong case. But please allow me to play the devil's advocate for a second.

We might want to be carefull before passing an oppinion on Hogland.From reading the twelve pages, one can find some errors in the reporting side as well

"As if it wasn't bad enough that Richard Hoagland is working to establish a new world order with his mason brothers, he really shows the evil in his heart by his actions toward Gary!"

Quite a radical statement and not enough proof at this point to completely back this up.

"It would be an honor if you were to show me them one day!" Whereas Gary said his reply was a happily sounding Hoagland saying merely... "MAYBE... MAYBE!"

" Gary was never shown those secret images that Richard promised him that he would maybe someday be able to see! "

'Maybe..' is not a promise of any sort,so it feels like they are twisting it a little here.


Hogland will obviously need to answer for those allegations: trying to set-up Someone and to hospitalize him,in order to stop an investigation about the origin of his Mars pictures from going on..and about serving another 'interest' from what we are led to believe.

"All it's done is run people around in circles with worthless disinfo that doesn't help anybody."

Now,that can be quite close to the truth :-)

One more thing,this not to be said that those accusations are not true,or to say that they are true,however,usually,when two sides fight,there are no winners,or there's a third party that wins...so this is also worth taking into consideration.

P.S

There was someone else who Questioned Richard Hogland's information (not Richard the person) and he did so on stage infront of him as well as on this forum.this is Bill,and It could have been interesting to hear his thoughts on this matter.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

I too am starting to sense Hoagy (for all he has exposed) is really a part of NASA's controlled leaking -

I mean this guy tells it as HE KNOWS IT yet refuses to talk about other significant and IMO clearer and more recent finds in space anomalies and the such.

Sorry Hoagy - you're loosing me buddy - time to reveal the truth once and for all (and you know it).

[Mark]

If he and anyone close to him did what this article says was done to this guy Gary that is enough to back up the other claims. If this woman robin made that phone call or this 'fake' doctor was employed specifically to lock this dude Gary down in a psychiatric ward somewhere that should be easy enough for him to verify if called to. The article admits that the writer isn't certain that Hoagland is a Mason. He makes an educated guess based on the fact that Hoagland was allowed to film inside of a Masonic Lodge.

The writer has gone to lengths to put forward this case against Hoagland. I've been paying attention to him the past few months for reasons others have mentioned as well. His sensationalism and the fact that his prognostications don't occur does put him on questionable status with me.

[jackovesk]

PS - For what its worth, for some reason I have never trusted Richard Hoagland and his so called sources.

There has always been some kind of Agenda on the back of his stories..!

He reminds me of a Spinmiester Politican, always lying to cover his tracks..!

[Cartomancer]

I always thought he was kind of dodgy but entertaining in his own way. I have noticed how none of his predictions come to pass as well (at least not the ones I happen to have heard). Boy, this forum has been full of people calling B.S. lately (including me).

[mojo]

I hope Richard responds to the accusations. I remember hearing him say he does alot of social networking and I wouldn't be surprsised if he watches our forum. I'm not taking sides either way. I like to hear both sides of the story before I make my own decision...

[Cartomancer]

Dang I just got through bashing Hoagie on another thread. Between this, the Wellaware controversy, and the con man thread we're turning into a bunch of cynical mystery seekers here. I'm not sure what to think about the structures on Mars deal but I guess it is possible. That's about as far as I'm willing to go. It is an interesting subject. Note not many here are defending the man. It could be counter-counter-disintelpro!

[bodhii71]

Unfortunately, I had a hand to play in perpetuating these accusations forwarded at Mr. Hoagland.
I had seen the video at the U.N. and when he made the statement about calling for a New World Order, I asked him via Facebook, only to be attacked by fans and pampered by Hoagland.
Mr. Vera contacted me in regards to this event and the speech.
I do think the statement made at the U.N. was innocent, but at the same time I think Hoagland is a bit of a racketeer.
I did find it odd that he refused to explain what was meant, considering the implications.
Unfortunately, if one discovers someone to be fraudulent, those associated become suspect as well.
It's not in my nature to want harm for anyone, so if Hoagland is really after the truth, I apologize.
And if not, better for the cause.