Richard Hoagland

[jackovesk]

Posted by mojo (here)
I hope Richard responds to the accusations. I remember hearing him say he does alot of social networking and I wouldn't be surprsised if he watches our forum. I'm not taking sides either way. I like to hear both sides of the story before I make my own decision...

I remember listening to both Richard Hoagland & David Wilcock (I think it was on Coast?), both having a 'Laugh' saying if one of their 'Predictions' (Which their a 'Many') does'nt come true, the Truth community has a field day...

My Answer to that is 'Why' make such 'Pie in The Sky' Predictions in the 1st place???

Its time we all made these people 'Accountable'..!

Seems to me, the more 'Outlandish' the Prediction = 'The More $$$Money they Make'..!

PS - If you live in the States (Call into Coast) and start asking the 'Tough Questions'



Mars & Phobos

Date: 11-30-11
Host: George Noory
Guests: Richard C. Hoagland

C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, will discuss the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars. He'll also talk about NASA's "Curiosity" rover, the next generation of massive robotic spacecraft, and the inner Martian moon and the possibility it's more likely to be "an ancient ET spaceship" than an actual natural moon.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/11/30

[cloud9]

"Everything about Richard Hoagland seems to revolve around money. That's why each time he appears on "Coast to Coast" he tells people that to get the REAL truth, they must buy his book or attend some conference where he will spill the beans! He even charges people on his Enterprise Mission website just to chat with lord Hoagland! Why does Richard Hoagland charge money for even participating on his website anyway? Why does he control the flow of information on the website and ban people who disagree with anything he says? It will all make perfect sense as you look at all our evidence!"

I've been listening to Coast to Coast for a long time with the exception of the last 2 months, every single time Hoagland appears in the show talking about something, George Noory says something like this: Richard C. Hoagland Coast to Coast scientific advisor, his web site Enterprise Mission!
People who participate in the program are encouraged to talk about their web sites or books as an exchange because they are not paid, Hoagland does it just as everybody else, no more no less.
I don't know about Hoagland charging for participating in his web site. Regarding banning people who disagree with what he says.... it doesn't happen everywhere? Avalon bans people and unsuscribe them too, it's a private web site!

"I think one of the most disturbing things our research uncovered was when we found out that Richard Hoagland had actually called for a new world order in a speeech to the UN! He was grubbing for money from the UN in the mid 90s and we have the clip in the attached video. Of course the UN is the main force of the new world order and is being used to establish their one world government! The UN has killed millions of innocent people in their quest for their new world order but Richard Hoagland LOVES the UN!"

I used to love the UN!!!! Before I knew what it was about.... I hope is not a crime!

"Personally, I don't like people who lie and distort the truth because then I can never trust anything else they tell me! In my own experience, I've found that if a person lies about one thing then they will lie about many other things too! How do you know when they are lying again? Can you ever believe them? "

So... nobody lies? I haven't met anybody who can say they have never lied. Perhaps this guy is the only human being in the planet who never lies.

"Gary looked at the images in the program and realized that he had never seen many of them before but something inside Gary made him want to put the video on the shelf for a while and not confront Richard about them just yet. It wasn't until 3 years in June of 2006 that Gary got the intense urge to take the video off the shelf and begin deep research into the mysteries contained within. "

This paragraph just sounds cheesy to me.... c'mon, 3 years? And suddenly he had the urge?

"Hoagland took advantage of Gary's circumstances. Gary absolutely believes Hoagland acted to create the financial ruin of Gary and his family. Hoagland also caused the destruction of Gary's "Martian Revelation Radio Show"!"

They never said how all of this occurred! It's just accusations, the only story, kind of, is the one about the hospital.

Frankly, I don't know what to think about Hoagland, I used to like the guy but after Elenin and the other whatever, I see there's a lot of keeping people's attention focused somewhere else and not in what's really important but this article is just so..... please help me here, English is not my first language.... it seems fake to me, full of empty accusations with no background.

I don't have the time to watch the video or look at the links he provides but just the language he uses doesn't make believable to me but this doesn't mean I'm not aware that Hoagland have been tripping a lot lately....

[Aryslan]

I've heard rumors that Hoagland was in it for the money, before. I see that others are thinking the same thing. Also, after his Elenin/YU-55 fantasy, I won't put much stock in what he says.

Edit: this is a 12 page article that could have been trimmed down to about 3. It contains quite a bit of opinion, but at least it contains links to provide proof for some of it's claims.

[schneider]

After listening to hoagland at the awake and aware conference, i wanted to puke. i couldn't believe all the bull crap he was spewing out, and he continues to spew to this day. he is either mind controlled or has lost his ability to think clearly. he scares me.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by cloud9 (here)

"I think one of the most disturbing things our research uncovered was when we found out that Richard Hoagland had actually called for a new world order in a speeech to the UN! He was grubbing for money from the UN in the mid 90s and we have the clip in the attached video. Of course the UN is the main force of the new world order and is being used to establish their one world government! The UN has killed millions of innocent people in their quest for their new world order but Richard Hoagland LOVES the UN!"

I used to love the UN!!!! Before I knew what it was about.... I hope is not a crime!

Yeah, it is.
A huge crime.
We have imperial stormtroopers on the way right now to take you into custody.
Nugget.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Before We Broke This Story, We Had Always Admired Richard Hoagland

This was already posted, via another link. I have merged the two threads.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by cloud9 (here)

"I think one of the most disturbing things our research uncovered was when we found out that Richard Hoagland had actually called for a new world order in a speeech to the UN! He was grubbing for money from the UN in the mid 90s and we have the clip in the attached video. Of course the UN is the main force of the new world order and is being used to establish their one world government! The UN has killed millions of innocent people in their quest for their new world order but Richard Hoagland LOVES the UN!"

I used to love the UN!!!! Before I knew what it was about.... I hope is not a crime!

Yeah, it is.
A huge crime.
We have imperial stormtroopers on the way right now to take you into custody.
Nugget.

Aw ... don't sweat it cloud9.

Without the carrot and/or stick they are just slackers ...

[apokalypse]

Posted by Limor (here)
Hogland will obviously need to answer for those allegations: trying to set-up Someone and to hospitalize him,in order to stop an investigation about the origin of his Mars pictures from going on..and about serving another 'interest' from what we are led to believe.

that's what i thought, Hoagland may be the target that they are trying to destroy him...

[NewFounderHome]

Gary should prove what was done to him and his family. That should be a liter thing to do then the other subjects.
That would need to be answered by Hoagland and Dr. Robin. And the Dr. Robin could be in trouble for doing the alleged actions.

You cannot allege everything and anything even if you are a Dr.

[cloud9]

uhmmmm... If they take me to jail, I want to be next to Hoagland so I'll be listening to great stories all day long.

Seriously, even after the Elenin thing I don't hate Hoagland, I always try to see the best in everyone, deep inside we are all good children.

[Calz]

Posted by cloud9 (here)
uhmmmm... If they take me to jail, I want to be next to Hoagland so I'll be listening to great stories all day long.

Seriously, even after the Elenin thing I don't hate Hoagland, I always try to see the best in everyone, deep inside we are all good children.

Try not to get any hairspray in your eyes

[000]

Good grief... I've seen less flimsy accusations on Judge Judy for heaven's sake.

I'm not on anyone's side, and do believe that Hoagland would do himself a favor in discussing all of this... but my god... it's just infantile to jump to such accusations and name calling with very little legitimate evidence.

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by NewFounderHome (here)
Gary should prove what was done to him and his family. That should be a liter thing to do then the other subjects.
That would need to be answered by Hoagland and Dr. Robin. And the Dr. Robin could be in trouble for doing the alleged actions.

You cannot allege everything and anything even if you are a Dr.

Quite a lot is covered in the mail exchange between Mr Hoagland and Gary : http://www.project.nsearch.com/page/...-mars-pictures

Not actual proofs, but if the mails are legit, it's easy to observe that Hoagland is trying to influence Gary, mostly in the name of friendship, but this could be a way to disguise true intentions.

[PathWalker]

Apparently Hogland is a whistleblower attacked by anonymous defamation and discredited.
This is a very good sign that he is getting closer to the juice and becoming dangerous.

This is just the signs of a credible whistleblower.
TPTW have the following techniques to eliminate opposition:
1. Ridicule
2. Deny income source and employment.
3. Bribe to silence
4. Kill and maim
5. Incarcerate / kidnap
6. Destroy creditability and reputation

Hogland has life insurance BIG one. TPTW know that, otherwise he would have killed long ago.
Think about your sources and they counter sources.

It is possible that Hogland is not willingly a double sided agent.
The lie is different at every level.

[Chucky]

Must say it contains some pretty hard insights....... I can only say that I like his footage and I know Alex Collier once commented about asking Hoagland in person why he doesn't just put all his stuff out there now and he just said he didn't want to yet. or to that affect... I must also point to a comment made about the new world order. We need a new world order. DON'T FAINT cause I will tell you why. Alex said it too. BUT and it is a BIG BUTT! That is uniting as a species is a needed thing to do and achieve right now. The New World Order is words and they promote FEAR now by association. True I don't want a new world order either in any context of being killed off or slaved. I will be a part of a New World called EARTH. When we are responsible for ourselves and no coercion is present. Respect and Love is from our hearts because freedom is expected and upheld by everyone. Mutual, and always there for each other to learn and grow as a species which we can call EARTH our welcoming Home. Now we need to discern the obvious in any people who have claims and just except that they have their own reasons for what they do. Is Hoaglands service to self or service to others! Use the scales and see. He need to use them on himself like we all need to do and maybe he will come around and give the world the pics he has. Alex Collier believes he has them too. How ever the reasons are Hoaglands on why they aren't released yet. I pitty that bit because we see already on here everyone is now saying what we need to do the the government right. Show me the proof!!!! I hope so...
If he is for the money he will sue!!!! IMHO Thanks Chucky

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Wow! this should make some sparks fly, I have read all 12 pages and I can't see how Hoagland can ignor the accusations in this and I think he will either have to take some legal action or come clean?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1427/...SplittedPage=1

[Daft Ada]

Sorry Paul, the forum is so big now it's extremely time consuming to check every board for similar posts. My Bad.
Well some interesting and varied response, I do ask myself how many of you went on to check the stuff under the Hoagland menu like buckminster did, before making decisions on there being no evidence.
Personally I feel if someone had done the things that Gary claims to me, I would want to shout it from the rooftops too.
I know that it is seriously cut throat in the world of ufology, it amazes me how people with the same goals and intentions can be at each others throats instead of working together, but that in itself points to an individual being more concerned with the kudos and ego than the task.
What he claims Robin did is just beyond belief and if it's proved she should be struck off in disgrace.

I am with a lot of you. I used to rate Hoagie quit high, but some of this recent bollocks he has been spouting has got me wondering about his sanity to be honest, and like Gary and many others, I went on his page and asked some direct questions and was soon kicked off.

I was thinking the other day about the distinctive lack of Bill on this site and the obvious lack of anything investigating interesting events from him , nothing has changed on the Project Avalon site for over a year. I can't help feeling that as time passed Bill realised that a lot of the people he was working with were charlatans and were in it for the recognition and in some cases money and he is now disillusioned and wandered off twitching.
Just saying, I like it when Bill just joins in and chats with us and makes comments in the threads, he doesn't always have to have major new news, but we don't see him much. I would be interested in your views on this Bill, as I know you were a hoagie fan as was I in the early days.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by PathWalker (here)
Apparently Hogland is a whistleblower attacked by anonymous defamation and discredited.
This is a very good sign that he is getting closer to the juice and becoming dangerous.

This is just the signs of a credible whistleblower.
TPTW have the following techniques to eliminate opposition:
1. Ridicule
2. Deny income source and employment.
3. Bribe to silence
4. Kill and maim
5. Incarcerate / kidnap
6. Destroy creditability and reputation

Hogland has life insurance BIG one. TPTW know that, otherwise he would have killed long ago.
Think about your sources and they counter sources.

It is possible that Hogland is not willingly a double sided agent.
The lie is different at every level.

I think it's dangerous to assume that if a "whistleblower" is being attacked, then that means they must be on the right path....

[Daft Ada]

Hey Sid, do you live on here you seem to be here all the time

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Sorry Paul, the forum is so big now it's extremely time consuming to check every board for similar posts. My Bad.
Well some interesting and varied response, I do ask myself how many of you went on to check the stuff under the Hoagland menu like buckminster did, before making decisions on there being no evidence.
Personally I feel if someone had done the things that Gary claims to me, I would want to shout it from the rooftops too.
I know that it is seriously cut throat in the world of ufology, it amazes me how people with the same goals and intentions can be at each others throats instead of working together, but that in itself points to an individual being more concerned with the kudos and ego than the task.
What he claims Robin did is just beyond belief and if it's proved she should be struck off in disgrace.

I am with a lot of you. I used to rate Hoagie quit high, but some of this recent bollocks he has been spouting has got me wondering about his sanity to be honest, and like Gary and many others, I went on his page and asked some direct questions and was soon kicked off.

I was thinking the other day about the distinctive lack of Bill on this site and the obvious lack of anything investigating interesting events from him , nothing has changed on the Project Avalon site for over a year. I can't help feeling that as time passed Bill realised that a lot of the people he was working with were charlatans and were in it for the recognition and in some cases money and he is now disillusioned and wandered off twitching.
Just saying, I like it when Bill just joins in and chats with us and makes comments in the threads, he doesn't always have to have major new news, but we don't see him much. I would be interested in your views on this Bill, as I know you were a hoagie fan as was I in the early days.

Hey there Daftnugget, you don't have to search the forum, bit by bit.
You can go to the top right side of the forum and click advanced search.
Then, you can pop into the engine the terms that you want to search for.
You can even pop a youtube video address in there.

[Daft Ada]

Ahh thanks Sid, old farts like me aren't very good with this forum stuff