Richard Hoagland

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Ahh thanks Sid, old farts like me aren't very good with this forum stuff

No worries nugget, I have been on forums for about seven years, I know my way around.

[Daft Ada]

Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

[NewFounderHome]

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)

Posted by NewFounderHome (here)
Gary should prove what was done to him and his family. That should be a liter thing to do then the other subjects.
That would need to be answered by Hoagland and Dr. Robin. And the Dr. Robin could be in trouble for doing the alleged actions.

You cannot allege everything and anything even if you are a Dr.

Quite a lot is covered in the mail exchange between Mr Hoagland and Gary : http://www.project.nsearch.com/page/...-mars-pictures

Not actual proofs, but if the mails are legit, it's easy to observe that Hoagland is trying to influence Gary, mostly in the name of friendship, but this could be a way to disguise true intentions.

What he would really need to have and to put up front would be the confirmation from his doctor of this story then Dr. Robin did try to send him away for 6 months. That would be the simplest thing up front, he could show and then all the rest would take place and gain more weight. This is not forgetting all the rest, but this he can get proof by himself.

[Ultima Thule]

Posted by NewFounderHome (here)

Quite a lot is covered in the mail exchange between Mr Hoagland and Gary : http://www.project.nsearch.com/page/...-mars-pictures

Not actual proofs, but if the mails are legit, it's easy to observe that Hoagland is trying to influence Gary, mostly in the name of friendship, but this could be a way to disguise true intentions.

I wen´t through that linked material with the emails etc. Didn´t read every word, I have to admit that.. My take was that Richard was being quite a nice fellow, encouraging Gary in many ways, and I just could´t see any hidden agenda there. Now I may be wrong, but there were a lot of red underlinings that tried to emphasize something, that I felt wasn´t there to be found. At the very least the story that was made out of it seemed way out of proportion and distorted.

Juha
ps. if anything out of order has happened, I see emails publicly displayed without permission as something.

[KosmicKat]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

I believe "Nugget" is a word contributed by the Australian colonies to the British language, although I can't find any reference to it in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Daft Ada]

Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

I find it patronising & disrespectful that we have "leaders" willing to take us to war on the pretence of "combating terrorism".

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Sorry Paul, the forum is so big now it's extremely time consuming to check every board for similar posts. My Bad.

Oh no - it was not you, Daft Ada, who posted this a second time. It was jackovesk who posted this after you already had, hence it was he who missed noticing it was already posted.

Avoiding duplicate posts is not easy. The Advanced Search (upper right side of page) function is not perfect. It's pretty easy to miss things in a search, unless you ask just the right way.

Sometimes it seems the only way to find duplicate posts is to read and remember every post made ... ordinary humans cannot be expected to do that ... only patient bovines and dark lords.

The occasional duplicate post is not "bad", rather just part of "stuff happening."

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
I find it patronising & disrespectful that we have "leaders" willing to take us to war on the pretence of "combating terrorism".

Perhaps it's just a little problem of using words accurately ... they should have called it the "War of Terror", not the "War on Terror."

[RMorgan]

My instincts always told me not to trust this guy. That´s why I like to call him Hoaxland. You can´t trust a man that is so inconsistent.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
I find it patronising & disrespectful that we have "leaders" willing to take us to war on the pretence of "combating terrorism".

Perhaps it's just a little problem of using words accurately ... they should have called it the "War of Terror", not the "War on Terror."

Or even "War on Terra"

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Jacovesk:

" I remember listening to both Richard Hoagland & David Wilcock (I think it was on Coast?), both having a 'Laugh' saying if one of their 'Predictions' (Which their a 'Many') does'nt come true, the Truth community has a field day...

My Answer to that is 'Why' make such 'Pie in The Sky' Predictions in the 1st place???

Its time we all made these people 'Accountable'..!

Hello Jackovesk,May I ask accountable for what ? I believe it is our own self responsibility to take the information,examine it closely and reach our own conclusions. We are able to do it by 'scanning' the information via both parts of our brain - the logic and the senses,together with feeling the vibrations of the person delivering it,and make up our own minds :-)
personally,I wouldn't like to hold someone accountable for me since I reached my own conclusions..(unless of course I make myself accountable :) ,on the contrary,I would appreciate their role in my life,the posibility to listen intently and to discern is excellent! and I believe this is the exact stage of our rapid evolution that we are in now,so everything debatable helps us grow.what a a good excersize that is!

A future prediction- just like other people from other planets,and like How we ourselvs once were,we better aspire to try and regain the ability to distinguish between the frequency of truth and the frequency of forgery,if we ever want to be an active members of the galaxy instead of ones who need constant babysitting or are able to be easily manipulated .

At this time,we are taking small steps to become this type of society,a one that will align with what is out there,and this is absolutely positive! However,It all starts with taking self responsibility and 'fine-tuning' our antennas. We all have daily moments of truth and small moments of 'inaccuracy' ,and with time,this 'distinction' will all be a piece of cake.
Just how I view it (plenty of place for other views :)

Originally posted by Apokalypse:

that's what i thought, Hoagland may be the target that they are trying to destroy him...

Oops sorry,Apokalypse,thats not at all what I meant (I was struggling with my english:) ,I meant that Hogland will have to make a statement weather he serves another interest or not. of course,there is always the posibility that with a whistleblower on his level there will be attempts to try and discredit him,but from observing his work from the last couple of month,it seems like he does a pretty good job by himself.

[Adam Greenland]

No offence to the people in here latching on to this article... but it reads like a high-school student posting some dumb thread on ATS.

And more than half of the flimsy "sinister revelations" in this article are attributed to comments that Hoagland made in PUBLIC.


I never understand why people also try and hit researchers over the head with the "money" thing. All the people/researchers in this field don't get grants from the government to tow the line. They need to make a living, and if books, conferences, web streams are the only way to do that, then it is either make money from their research or they go find a 9 to 5, and leave it up to the government scientists to give us the truth...

[LisAlien]

My comment is a little off topic but I was automatically suspicious of him because he uses a middle initial when it is not necessary. I mean, it's not like his name is John Smith and needs a "C" to distinguish himself from others.
I always felt Richard C Hoagland (which is how C2C ALWAYS introduces him) uses the "C" to be subconsciously identified and compared with Arthur C Clarke.

[Adam Greenland]

I think it simply stems from a desire to be taken seriously, even if his public profile is in the "conspiracy" arena.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by LisAlien (here)
My comment is a little off topic but I was automatically suspicious of him because he uses a middle initial when it is not necessary. I mean, it's not like his name is John Smith and needs a "C" to distinguish himself from others.
I always felt Richard C Hoagland (which is how C2C ALWAYS introduces him) uses the "C" to be subconsciously identified and compared with Arthur C Clarke.

Good thinking!

[Daft Ada]

Extremely interesting reading everyones posts, I don't agree with all of them but everyone is entitled to their opinion. The variation in what's important to different posters is also interesting, some respond by insulting the poster, so I guess that means they don't agree with him, some don't comment on the statements made, but how they are made and how they come across and indicates they judge people by how they write or phrase something!
What how he states his name has got to do with the thread I'm not sure, and what wars on terrorists have to do with the thread I'm not sure, but hey! fill yer boots all comers are welcome :-)

I agree it gets to the point of ranting, but I put that down to how passionate and upset the OP is about the content. I think perhaps it's the statements that are made about the actions of Hoagland and his wife which are all that is important, opinions and feelings carry no weight in a court of law, so I think it boils down to simply, Is Hoagland hiding these pictures from us and did he do the things to Gary that are stated when Gary refused to let it drop and did Dr wife try to help her husband by falsifying a medical situation to another doctor?

With regards to the money issue, I agree that a lot of the genuine investigators must charge for time on some of their research, but Hoagland charges for everything, for gods sake he even charges to speak to someone on his site, how would you all feel if Bill wouldn't talk to you unless you paid? The man is obsessed with money because it's what he is all about, hence all the constant hype and you won't find out the earth shattering news until you pay

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Extremely interesting reading everyones posts, I don't agree with all of them but everyone is entitled to their opinion. The variation in what's important to different posters is also interesting, some respond by insulting the poster, so I guess that means they don't agree with him, some don't comment on the statements made, but how they are made and how they come across and indicates they judge people by how they write or phrase something!
What how he states his name has got to do with the thread I'm not sure, and what wars on terrorists have to do with the thread I'm not sure, but hey! fill yer boots all comers are welcome :-)

I agree it gets to the point of ranting, but I put that down to how passionate and upset the OP is about the content. I think perhaps it's the statements that are made about the actions of Hoagland and his wife which are all that is important, opinions and feelings carry no weight in a court of law, so I think it boils down to simply, Is Hoagland hiding these pictures from us and did he do the things to Gary that are stated when Gary refused to let it drop and did Dr wife try to help her husband by falsifying a medical situation to another doctor?

With regards to the money issue, I agree that a lot of the genuine investigators must charge for time on some of their research, but Hoagland charges for everything, for gods sake he even charges to speak to someone on his site, how would you all feel if Bill wouldn't talk to you unless you paid? The man is obsessed with money because it's what he is all about, hence all the constant hype and you won't find out the earth shattering news until you pay

My guess would be that whatever "goodies" he gets away with charging for can't be all that earth shattering really... By now whatever it is would have leaked out.

I've never really clicked with Hoagland, don't know if it's because of his "Lego Man"-esque hairdo or not... It may be the way he draws a story out without really getting to the nuts and bolts of it...

[Cartomancer]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

In N. California "nugget fetish" means something totally different! A mystery.

[jackovesk]

Posted by cloud9 (here)
"I used to love the UN!!!! Before I knew what it was about.... I hope is not a crime!"

Ok, we will let you off with a 'Good Behavior Bond' just this once..!