Richard Hoagland

[Zillah]

My two cents:

Everyone is right!!!

I feel our greatest lesson now is not to "hunt down those who harm us" - rather it is to strengthen our innate ability to decipher what is "true" by using and fine-tuning our (perhaps I can call it) finer/evolved intuitive/psychic/telepathic abilities.

This "burn the witch" syndrome is so OLD paradigm its ridiculous - accuse and conquer!!! Destroy what doesn't resonate ! Abolish what insults MY BELIEFS!

This is our time to say we are beyond consensus and beyond caring what everyone else thinks - I feel the new way of the human is to use our KNOWINGness and I feel once we've finally matured enough and evolved enough, these games will no longer be necessary...

Some will say, "we must warn others" out of repsect and concern - but this is the very mind-set that religion uses - trying to warn us, to SAVE us. Personally I respect myself and humanity ENOUGH knowing that we can save ourselves, we dont need someone/something defining what truth is for us, this is what held us back for so long. Open information, and complete exposure to it - will assure we get on the "right" path.

The truth will always prevail, and I feel soon without effort and especially without attachment.

xo

[Truthseeker512]

Im not surprised by this article in the slightest.

[magicmanx]

Actually...........

We are all missing the point. Somewhere in the middle of all this the Mad Martian..aka Gary for all the problems he may have gone through directly with Hoagland et al..... he is talking about 'A Code' that he has found but for the life of me I have tried to follow his interview...all 3 hours of it..... but I really cannot make head or tails of this so called Code he mentions. It has something to do with the UFO Diaries and Hoagland in a roundabout way trying to tell him ( Gary)...if not all of us something he ( Hoagland ) cannot say straight out.
Intuatively I feel this is very important here but God forbid it can be spelt out in good old simple text............
What am I missing?......must I always have to stay tuned!!!! al la Hoagland or as Gary says ........ will explain the Code in the next interview.
This is the essence of the whole thing!!!!!!!!!!

Mama here is getting to old for all this............How hard is it for someone just to sit down and spit it out for us mere morons in plain language.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

It's a secret.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

Now don't go getting bent out of shape over a word.
It if were like you feel, do you think I would use it?
Do you think the staff would allow it?
Sorry you took it that way, it isn't meant that way.














































Nugget.

[Elethia]

I really appreciate what Zillah and Limor have expressed here. Truth is something we find within us. If you find truth in Hoagland it is a truth for yourself and if you don't find truth in Hoagland that also is your truth. It's for each of us to find what works for us. There is no 'one truth fits all'. Perhaps it's part of the game we are here to figure out.

I've enjoyed some info from Hoagland like his articles on the Mars moon Phobos, for example. I was once doubtful about the "face on Mars" until I saw an image put out by NASA purporting to show this face which had distinctly been passed through a blur filter. I had to ask myself the question, why would they alter their own data? It makes no sense. (Ya, right...) Just tried to put one of those little faces in and not sure if I got it. Well, anyway, I've worked in computer graphics so I know what a blur filter looks like. After that, I began to wonder just what is up there. Not that Hoagland has all the answers but he got me to ask questions and look anew at things I might have passed over.

[woodshreder]

I find it interesting that Mr Hoagland is for the first time ever hosting a full 3 hr C2C show, and just a week or so before the show is aired the CharacterAssasination card is thrown out into the mix to hopefully to attack his morality and credibility. I am not up to speed with what the attack is about but the timing is very suspicious IMHO
Peace Always Peace

[Daft Ada]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

It's a secret.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

Now don't go getting bent out of shape over a word.
It if were like you feel, do you think I would use it?
Do you think the staff would allow it?
Sorry you took it that way, it isn't meant that way.
nugget.

Well there you have it Sid, you don't think it a little childish to be calling people names that only you know the meaning of and expect them to be happy? I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right. My mother was German so how would you like it if I addressed you as Minselmenchin all the time, you would be asking me what it meant right? But then I wouldn't be calling another adult names anyway, but if it makes you happy Sid, fill yer boots.

[modwiz]

Hey Lord Sidious, it seems Darth Vader has a nugget in his helmet. That will make a body cranky.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

It's a secret.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

Now don't go getting bent out of shape over a word.
It if were like you feel, do you think I would use it?
Do you think the staff would allow it?
Sorry you took it that way, it isn't meant that way.
nugget.

Well there you have it Sid, you don't think it a little childish to be calling people names that only you know the meaning of and expect them to be happy? I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right. My mother was German so how would you like it if I addressed you as Minselmenchin all the time, you would be asking me what it meant right? But then I wouldn't be calling another adult names anyway, but if it makes you happy Sid, fill yer boots.

I don't know why people have to take it personally.
If I wanted to insult you, maybe I would use a word that you would get?
If it makes you happy, you aren't a nugget.
Ok?

[modwiz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

It's a secret.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

Now don't go getting bent out of shape over a word.
It if were like you feel, do you think I would use it?
Do you think the staff would allow it?
Sorry you took it that way, it isn't meant that way.
nugget.

Well there you have it Sid, you don't think it a little childish to be calling people names that only you know the meaning of and expect them to be happy? I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right. My mother was German so how would you like it if I addressed you as Minselmenchin all the time, you would be asking me what it meant right? But then I wouldn't be calling another adult names anyway, but if it makes you happy Sid, fill yer boots.

I don't know why people have to take it personally.
If I wanted to insult you, maybe I would use a word that you would get?
If it makes you happy, you aren't a nugget.
Ok?

Agreed. He is so not a nugget.

Minselmenchin? You sure about that spelling? Google never heard of it. Misspelling can be a form of nuggetry.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Whats all this Nugget fetish about?

It's a secret.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi KosmicKat, how are you. You know me as Chewbacky on OM. I'm not sure where it's from but I find it patronising and disrespectful.

Now don't go getting bent out of shape over a word.
It if were like you feel, do you think I would use it?
Do you think the staff would allow it?
Sorry you took it that way, it isn't meant that way.
nugget.

Well there you have it Sid, you don't think it a little childish to be calling people names that only you know the meaning of and expect them to be happy? I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right. My mother was German so how would you like it if I addressed you as Minselmenchin all the time, you would be asking me what it meant right? But then I wouldn't be calling another adult names anyway, but if it makes you happy Sid, fill yer boots.

I see it as a term of affection if anything, I don't see it as an insult or derogatory term at all...

Anyway, whether you choose to take offence or not... is purely your choice and your choice alone.

[Daft Ada]

I have to say I am really surprised at your behaviour, I understood you were a professional? not a schoolboy bully calling people names. Also if your profession is what I believe it is, you of all people should know better. I don't come here to be called names, of any kind, not just Nugget but anything other than Daft Ada or Bob, why do you feel that because you have over 7000 posts you can be discourteous to other members? I am not angry or upset, just very surprised, if all the children want to join in now as above your post, then so be it, I will stay on the forums where I am treated with respect.

[modwiz]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Well there you have it Sid, you don't think it a little childish to be calling people names that only you know the meaning of and expect them to be happy? I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right. My mother was German so how would you like it if I addressed you as Minselmenchin all the time, you would be asking me what it meant right? But then I wouldn't be calling another adult names anyway, but if it makes you happy Sid, fill yer boots.

I see it as a term of affection if anything, I don't see it as an insult or derogatory term at all...

Anyway, whether you choose to take offence or not... is purely your choice and your choice alone.

Right on. I stand by my nugget in the helmet theory. Something is not right in Vaderland.

[mojo]

Hi Daft Ada,
Please stay on the forum. Although I don't agree with the original posting about Hoagland. I appreciate you bringing a different perspective to us.

[Eagle]

Gleaning all your information form one source and basing your belief on that one source is detrimental (always has been) putting all your eggs in one basket and then having the bottom fall out is no one else’s fault except your own. That’s why I have some extra eggs if you need some

[alienHunter]

My first impression. This site's link went to the 'other' site and the 1st thing I saw were pop ups asking for donations. I don't believe any of it.

[Daft Ada]

Ahhh! but it's not just the one source though Dig, how many people above have said they are getting bad vibes and the feeling they are being had by all the amazing claims that Hoagland has come out with of late that never amount to anything and can't be proved?
Phobos is a spacecraft, Eleni was a spacecraft and came with a message that only someone like Hoagland who has invented some new physics involving repeating numbers can understand, and despite the fact it never came within 200 million miles of earth, the message was for us? even when it's proved it was a dirty snowball and it fell apart, he still denied it, now this latest asteroid is a space ship and it was going to crash into the moon, what exactly was that supposed to tell us. Fact is if he admitted he was wrong he wouldn't half have to refund a lot of money for his DVDs and talks, and that's precisely why he won't.
There is just more and more evidence that the man is something other than what he purports to be.

[Eagle]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Ahhh! but it's not just the one source though Dig, how many people above have said they are getting bad vibes and the feeling they are being had by all the amazing claims that Hoagland has come out with of late that never amount to anything and can't be proved?
Phobos is a spacecraft, Eleni was a spacecraft and came with a message that only someone like Hoagland who has invented some new physics involving repeating numbers can understand, and despite the fact it never came within 200 million miles of earth, the message was for us? even when it's proved it was a dirty snowball and it fell apart, he still denied it, now this latest asteroid is a space ship and it was going to crash into the moon, what exactly was that supposed to tell us. Fact is if he admitted he was wrong he wouldn't half have to refund a lot of money for his DVDs and talks, and that's precisely why he won't.
There is just more and more evidence that the man is something other than what he purports to be.

Tell me enough times that I am worthless and I will start to believe it, tell me that I am going to be rich enough times and I am desperate enough I will believe, tell me that if I take the blue pill and my world will change and I am faithful, I will believe.

[Daft Ada]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
My first impression. This site's link went to the 'other' site and the 1st thing I saw were pop ups asking for donations. I don't believe any of it.

I don't think the site it is on is anything to do with the chap who is telling his story Alien.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Ahhh! but it's not just the one source though Dig, how many people above have said they are getting bad vibes and the feeling they are being had by all the amazing claims that Hoagland has come out with of late that never amount to anything and can't be proved?
Phobos is a spacecraft, Eleni was a spacecraft and came with a message that only someone like Hoagland who has invented some new physics involving repeating numbers can understand, and despite the fact it never came within 200 million miles of earth, the message was for us? even when it's proved it was a dirty snowball and it fell apart, he still denied it, now this latest asteroid is a space ship and it was going to crash into the moon, what exactly was that supposed to tell us. Fact is if he admitted he was wrong he wouldn't half have to refund a lot of money for his DVDs and talks, and that's precisely why he won't.
There is just more and more evidence that the man is something other than what he purports to be.

The problem is that the whole scene has grown into a cottage industry of its own. As more and more "whistleblowers" come forward with extraordinary claims, it ups the ante for everyone else. To make the headlines (or to make serious money) you have to be more outrageous & more extraordinary than the rest of the pack. The problem is, that as more and more of these prove to be total bunkum, the whole alternative community get painted as whackos and crackpots, and eventually nobody at all - including die-hard devotees - believes anything that's said.... In effect, it blows itself out.