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    Quote Posted by John (here)
    Beren, your question pulls me like a magnet back to this thread

    My thinking is that one does not "utilize" love. I will try to explain the idea I have in detail.

    In order to form an outcome, one takes action to cause that to happen. In the course of doing that one must have previously had some idea of what it is that one wants to achieve. This is what I mean by intent.

    Now, if one's intent is dark, and thus working against the divine flow - the principles of unconditional love, nurturance of life and expansion of consciousness, then one will rely on a strategy of disharmony in order to achieve one's aims. For example, blocking the light with fear, and casting a shadow where love is reduced. This has been possible to do on our planet by the concerted efforts of dark forces, who have led humans into focusing on base things: misused of sexual functions, conflict, disharmony, war and materialism (all kinds of " 'isms " in fact) etc. With the outcome that fear is created in the imprisoned minds – reducing people to building and maintaining their own prisons and being willing and somewhat ignorant slaves to the dark forces.

    However, with the changes that are happening now, the normal routine employed by the dark forces is not so effective anymore. The poor old dark forces are trying to hold back an unstoppable tide of light and love. They build sandcastles only to see them washed away - they are finding that they did not build on solid foundations.

    On the other hand, if one's intent is going with the flow of the divine then everything is different. Correctly envisioned intent causes the mechanics of the universe simply rush to your aid, and bring with them infinite abundance and resource to manifest the desired outcomes. Everything becomes a lot easier.

    We are heading rapidly to a state where the dualities of our reality will be so far behind us, fear won’t even be a factor any more.

    In the model I have attempted to describe - the closest thing I can say about "utilizing" love in the sense that I think you mean it is to express love unconditionally. Fear not - Be love - Be here now. Unconditional means not even attempting to judge another's qualities or assessing their right to be on the receiving end of that love. It is not something one plans, when you decide to open your heart, you really need free yourself from inner created judgemental patterns - otherwise it will hurt. The love flows from the universe through the matrices of our being and is transduced into a form that becomes part of our co-created consensus reality.

    So what do I personally think (disclaimers on personal opinions apply...) I think mentally expressing blessings for people would be a good example. Even when those people are some of the darkest ever to walk the planet! I think it’s a good idea! Don’t hold back. Embrace the “sandcastles” of duality. Learn from them. Love them - and let your love merge with the tide that will eventually wash them away.

    Once again - thanks for the question and this scintillating thread.

    It is Friday here and most of the people around me are feeling good about it - that is nice. Bless you all, and I hope you all have an amazing weekend.

    John..

    Those things that happen inside of our soul are really hard to explain. But I think you did well.
    In the essence all that counts is the intent . From intent all other is in the process of development . Now this concept is not easy to grasp since most of the people do not think about it. We are just programmed to live like this or like that. Of course we can brake the program but it takes realization of WHAT to brake. From today's point of understanding we can begin to grasp of deeper insights that Christ gave us when he said in lay term in order for that day people to even begin to understand.
    "all comes from the heart" or "even if you thought of taking another man's wife- you already made an adultery"...

    Intent of the heart and soul means all.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Those things that happen inside of our soul are really hard to explain. But I think you did well.
    In the essence all that counts is the intent . From intent all other is in the process of development . Now this concept is not easy to grasp since most of the people do not think about it. We are just programmed to live like this or like that. Of course we can brake the program but it takes realization of WHAT to brake. From today's point of understanding we can begin to grasp of deeper insights that Christ gave us when he said in lay term in order for that day people to even begin to understand.
    "all comes from the heart" or "even if you thought of taking another man's wife- you already made an adultery"...
    Intent of the heart and soul means all.
    100% truth.
    It is possible to elaborate here on the free choice/free will to walk a path.
    As said we are programmed, when we awaken we take control over our programming.
    Being good or bad is a moral issue that change with geography and time.
    I would replace good => being in service to others, bad => being in service to self.
    This is the essence of duality.

    The actual action or personally is never 100% on either side. The personality is moving along the continuum.
    Therefore in order to evolve the duality game, we need to surrender to the diving (what ever it be is part of the intention).
    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    100% truth.
    It is possible to elaborate here on the free choice/free will to walk a path.
    As said we are programmed, when we awaken we take control over our programming.
    Being good or bad is a moral issue that change with geography and time.
    I would replace good => being in service to others, bad => being in service to self.
    This is the essence of duality.

    The actual action or personally is never 100% on either side. The personality is moving along the continuum.
    Therefore in order to evolve the duality game, we need to surrender to the diving (what ever it be is part of the intention).
    Right.

    It`s a really good example when you wrote about ;
    good => being in service to others, bad => being in service to self.
    This is the essence of duality.

    To even more simplify the matter , one glass can take certain amount of water. After that water can not fill in the glass, instead it`s going over glass`s edge.
    Now one glass can contain all the water in the universe.
    How?
    By sharing it. When it`s full ,you then sip it somewhere (throat, meal, plant...), then it can be refilled and while it can be refilled ,it actually shared water with ones whom were in need of it.
    So one glass can be a hero and other just a sandy crystal thing-essentially empty.

    We are made according to God`s image and the moment we act as a unsharing glass we will stop developing permanently. Unless if we decide or realize that non sharing God`s life force and love and all that is of God is simply life ending to one.
    Being or beings that were named "fallen" were and are the ones whom selfishly decided that they want all for themselves.
    How sad that they were filled quickly.
    How sad that they do not see how actually empty they are!
    Last edited by Beren; 17th July 2010 at 19:46.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    The remembering process began first with a group of individuals who were actually born with more than the 12 strands of the Angelic template. These individuals are known as Indigos. They have come into this Time Matrix specifically to work together with the Angelic Humans in assisting the planet during the SAC transition, despite the dangers involved. In doing so they risked forgetting why they came, since they needed to enter bodies that carry the same distortions that the Angelic Human template carries—distortions that wipe out all memories of previous lifetimes and block communication with the higher dimensional selves.

    The additional DNA strand templates carried by Indigos, assist them in countering the innumerable distortions within the DNA. These extra strands help them to activate their own strands more rapidly—and in turn to down-step their activations to Angelic humans through the energetic connections both groups share. The additional DNA strands also help them to see more quickly through the misinformation surrounding them, and to remember why they have come into this Time Matrix in the first place. (If you have read this far, you are probably one of these Indigos who came in to help the planet and all life forms through the coming SAC.)

    With greater DNA activation comes higher dimensional awareness and higher sensory perception. But due to the distortions on the planet, the process continues to be a slow, challenging one, requiring extra effort to dismantle the blockages. In order to make the shift during the coming SAC—and to assist others in this process—the distortions need to be healed quickly so the activations can occur.


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    So true Beren
    Similarly you can light endless candles with one lit candle without diminishing the original flame. Thats God for you.
    He is the eternal flame that lights all of us up with eternal life.
    Chris
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    I concur with Beren on the light vessels.
    The Kabbalah which is the Jewish mysticism use the metaphor of light vessels.
    The more evolve the light vessel is the more light is going through.
    That is why I bless: may the light shine into your and through you

    In response to shiva777.
    There are many stories about the fallen of conscious from diverse cultures. The DNA story is the most modern. Our ancestors did not have the DNA term.
    I would say few years from now we will replace the DNA term with something like holographic footprint. Because the DNA is holographic tool to access other dimensions of reality not acknowledged by mainstream science yet.

    Yet the collective Ascension Descension is part of greater game we (our souls) play, as we chose to have this duality game/adventure here in this dimension. The beloved Gaya has her path as well, with many cycles of life. We are seeds of god, having an holographic composition.
    The DNA is very physical dense aspect of the holographic composition.

    The intent is the tool of creation, as I learn from many sources. The DNA is one mechanism. The masters/sidha that have full control over matter do not use DNA. They use their command of the oneness.
    If you saw the Matrix movie there is a scene where a child I learning to bend spoon and he says. "Do not try to bend the spoon, be the spoon", I find this quote very profound. But I am just learning the path as we all are.

    Joy and happiness
    May the light shine into you and through you
    Last edited by PathWalker; 17th July 2010 at 23:04.
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    Dear PathWalker
    You could say some light bulbs are dimmer than others because there is more resistance.
    Chris
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    Dear PathWalker
    You could say some light bulbs are dimmer than others because there is more resistance.
    Chris
    Namaste
    Hi Chris,

    It`s because some light bulbs are afraid.

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    Pathwalker,

    you spoke about things which is usually hard to understand, on a way that is understandable.
    That is already one good deed, putting light over so others can grasp at it.
    One by one ,big or small good deeds are wonderful!
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Fear the obstacle, Love, devotion to God and humility to surrender to Divine will the antidote
    In God we trust.
    I know nothing. ( apart from asking for help from God works)
    I just assume I do.
    That makes an ass out of you and me
    Ch
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Fear the obstacle, Love, devotion to God and humility to surrender to Divine will the antidote
    In God we trust.
    I know nothing. ( apart from asking for help from God works)
    I just assume I do.
    That makes an ass out of you and me
    Ch

    Ginger ale ,a?

    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Love God with all your heart,soul ,mind.
    Love thy neighbor as your self.


    I saw in my thoughts and reality this eternal maxima.
    Whenever I was thinking and aligning myself with God a situation emerged where I was about to or not to, show the love to my neighbor.
    And I did.

    Then I saw how the power worked.
    Love.Justice.Wisdom.Power.

    It`s just wonderful how those four are intermingled.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Then I saw how the power worked.
    Love.Justice.Wisdom.Power.

    It`s just wonderful how those four are intermingled.
    Beloved baren, you mention Love, Wisdom and Power which I agree and striving for as well.
    As for justice I am afraid of human justice and judgment. I do still have fears I have to work out.

    Personally I trust the 12 laws of Karma (as much as I can), leaving justice to Karma.
    My belief is that the more awaken you are the quicker the Karma laws manifest.

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    Joy and happiness
    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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    Beloved baren, you mention Love, Wisdom and Power which I agree and striving for as well.
    As for justice I am afraid of human justice and judgment. I do still have fears I have to work out.

    Personally I trust the 12 laws of Karma (as much as I can), leaving justice to Karma.
    My belief is that the more awaken you are the quicker the Karma laws manifest.

    Love
    Joy and happiness
    Well in order to become true sons & daughters of God we must embody those four virtues. Love , Justice , Wisdom and Power.
    We occupy them partially but we have to live them fully or we will never succeed.
    Justice, as you mentioned is always true when you do not take sides. When you hold to the eternal principles.

    But we are often weak and thus justice fails in our eyes.
    But in reality justice never fails.
    What you sow ,you will reap it.

    You must take responsibility for your actions.
    Trying to avoid that made you a fugitive from justice...and no one can escape justice.

    Be blessed friend,

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    I am manifesting a guiness for you Beren.
    Go to your local and tell the bar man to charge it to me Lo.
    Thanks again for the thread and your friendship.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    I am manifesting a guiness for you Beren.
    Go to your local and tell the bar man to charge it to me Lo.
    Thanks again for the thread and your friendship.
    Chris
    Well mariner, I will meet you one day with my good old friend Earendil the mariner...
    tricky things with sailors that they are more efficient with ales than rest of the pack ...
    So I can manage one guiness , for more ....I will join you with ginger ales ,hah!

    Be blessed friend ,

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    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    Personally I trust the 12 laws of Karma (as much as I can)
    I didn't know there were 12 laws of Karma. Please can you point me to a list?
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    I didn't know there were 12 laws of Karma. Please can you point me to a list?
    I would like to hear as well .
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quick Google search gave me this...

    http://hubpages.com/hub/The-12-Laws-Of-Karma

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    Quote Posted by celine (here)
    Quick Google search gave me this...

    http://hubpages.com/hub/The-12-Laws-Of-Karma
    beautiful!
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by John (here)
    I didn't know there were 12 laws of Karma. Please can you point me to a list?
    Greetings seekers,

    I watched an interview with Steven L. Hairfield about his book The Twelve Sacred Principles of Karma in my favorite site http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/interviews.htm

    I found in google the following MP3 http://www.alternatives.org.uk/Site/...AltsList=False
    and this link http://www.freado.com/read/4221/the-...even-hairfield

    Hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.
    I am also embedding the rules into my life. (Still work in progress ).

    Joy and happiness
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    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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