Richard Hoagland

[Unified Serenity]

All I can say is whenever you put people on pedestals they will let you down, and show just how fallible they are. There is an opportunity here for us to come together in spirit, let go of the past errors and things said in haste or with little real thought or concern for others, particularly those who may for one reason or another be more sensitive at that moment. I choose to watch with eyes wide open, put no one on a pedestal, and accept or reject what does not resonate with me. While I don't want others to be fooled by this person or that person, they have a right to come to their own conclusions. Speak our truths in love and kindness of spirit and we should be ok. Get snarky and there could be energetic blood in the ether.

[Cartomancer]

This is the Hoagie Nugget posting area correct? I was listening to Coast to Coast last night and George had a short segment w/ Hoagland. This time he is saying that the recent Russian Mars probe that failed to launch from orbit this week is really a secret project in tandem with the US launched Mars probe that went up this week. His "insiders" told him this info. This time he is giving himself a nine month window of Fear Porn production. This "secret mission" of the Russians should be some good fuel for his fire. I am predicting that the probe simply failed and nothing will happen in nine months.


"don't call me Francis"
"lighten up Francis"

[RMorgan]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
This is the Hoagie Nugget posting area correct? I was listening to Coast to Coast last night and George had a short segment w/ Hoagland. This time he is saying that the recent Russian Mars probe that failed to launch from orbit this week is really a secret project in tandem with the US launched Mars probe that went up this week. His "insiders" told him this info. This time he is giving himself a nine month window of Fear Porn production. This "secret mission" of the Russians should be some good fuel for his fire. I am predicting that the probe simply failed and nothing will happen in nine months.


"don't call me Francis"
"lighten up Francis"

Hahahaha....Here we go again....

[New Dawn]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
You call that an apology do you Sid? all you say is that you are sorry I took it that way and then procede to call me a nugget again. That is not in any way shape or form an apology

He said 'sorry'' that is an apology. Let it go. You seem to be hoping for attention to be drawn to you. We all want to feel important, but there's better ways of doing it.

[Daft Ada]

No he did not say sorry, he said sorry you feel that way, what part of that don't you understand? and there is no need for you to barge in and start insulting people either. I'm not the one who is not letting it go, all I do is answer the posts of people like you who have just got to have your say on it, as far as I am concerned it was over yesterday, but as long as people keep bringing it up I will keep answering the posts because I will not have the friends of Sid try and make me out to be the one at fault, I didn't call anyone names, all I have done is ask that no one calls me names, and as for your childish remark about attention, well it doesn't even deserve to be addressed. Can you not see that if you had said nothing, nor would anyone else duhh!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
No he did not say sorry, he said sorry you feel that way, what part of that don't you understand? and there is no need for you to barge in and start insulting people either. I'm not the one who is not letting it go, all I do is answer the posts of people like you who have just got to have your say on it, as far as I am concerned it was over yesterday, but as long as people keep bringing it up I will keep answering the posts because I will not have the friends of Sid try and make me out to be the one at fault, I didn't call anyone names, all I have done is ask that no one calls me names, and as for your childish remark about attention, well it doesn't even deserve to be addressed. Can you not see that if you had said nothing, nor would anyone else duhh!

For the record, no you are not at fault, you didn't call anyone anything.
And for the record, I apologise for offending you.

[Daft Ada]

Apology accepted Sid, it speaks volumes that you are gentleman enough to apologise and it's behind us, one last comment you would be surprised how many PM's I got from members who also don't like it, that's all I will say and as far as i'm concerned it never happened.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
For the record, no you are not at fault, you didn't call anyone anything.
And for the record, I apologise for offending you.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Apology accepted Sid, it speaks volumes that you are gentleman enough to apologise and it's behind us, one last comment you would be surprised how many PM's I got from members who also don't like it, that's all I will say and as far as i'm concerned it never happened.

That´s great guys! That´s the spirit of the whole thing! We´re all on the same side!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
That´s great guys! That´s the spirit of the whole thing! We´re all on the same side!

We never weren't.

[Daft Ada]

I haven't had a chance to listen to Hoagland on Coast today yet, I understand he is making more unprovable and far fetched claims about the Russian Mars probe which is stuck in orbit amongst other things, I will report back when I have heard it.

[Debra]

This is getting messy, too much so. I perceive some witch hunting is going on as well. I am detecting smear campaigns all this week to discredit the folk in the disclosure community who are standing taller than some. They are doing a good job too, I feel the confusion. The pressure is on, a frenzied campaign of outing is happening, but is it true?

[RMorgan]

Posted by Zebra (here)
This is getting messy, too much so. I perceive some witch hunting is going on as well. I am detecting smear campaigns all this week to discredit the folk in the disclosure community who are standing taller than some. They are doing a good job too, I feel the confusion. The pressure is on, a frenzied campaign of outing is happening, but is it true?

There´s no witch hunting here Zebra. The thing is that, deliberately or not, slowly, the so called "alternative media" is becoming more unreliable than the so called "mainstream media".

It is possible that people like Hoagland, are manipulated to spread fake info in order to discredit the "alternative media", so we must stay alert.

If we don´t take this serious, we might have no reliable sources of information sooner than you think.

All this game of one failed prediction after another, and unfounded theories is becoming ridiculous. The question is: Is it on purpose? If it is, who is behind it?

Cheers,

Raf.

[Daft Ada]

Not sure I follow you there mate, who else is being outed then?

[Cartomancer]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Not sure I follow you there mate, who else is being outed then?

There was a big controversy's over the Wellaware1.com guy saying that many events like the rep. Gifford's shooting were faked and used actors. He accused Bill and Inelia of being plants or actors. Last week we had a big thread about "con men" and Hoagland's name came up a lot. It has been a few days of skepticism here at PA. I guess I'm on the being skeptical of Hoagland bandwagon myself. He is entertaining though.

Hoagland just did a five minute long blurb on Coast to Coast last night where he was speculating about a Russian Mars Probe secret mission that his contancts informed him of. He's doing a full show this week at some point.

[Daft Ada]

Ahh ok thanks mate, I think it's Wednesdays show he's on for the whole show.

[RMorgan]

It´s important to question things, to not believe in everything presented to you. It´s also important to always keep the mind open, and to not be ashamed of changing it and accepting new ideas.

I believe the balance between being skeptic and being a believer is crucial for all of us to get closer to the truth.

Personally, I always follow this path. I´m not ingenuous, but I´m not suspicious as well.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Daft Ada]

Sounds reasonable to me Raf, to be totally honest I am convinced that aliens exist, I have no solid proof or evidence but based on the fact that we are here and how big the universe is I would think the odds against there not being other life forms would be very slim. All the evidence I have read most of my life has pretty much convinced me that some are here on a regular basis but I confess to constantly looking for solid proof although I would be surprised if I ever found it.

[jagman]

tonight's show
1am - 5am ET
10pm - 2am PT
Mars & Phobos
Wed 11-30
C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, will discuss the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars. He'll also talk about NASA's "Curiosity" rover, the next generation of massive robotic spacecraft, and the inner Martian moon and the possibility it's more likely to be "an ancient ET spaceship" than an actual natural moon.

I have heard a lot about Hoagland this week on PA. Maybe someone from Pa could call
in and ask Hoagland about some of the accusations?

[Lord Sidious]

I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

[Cartomancer]

I will be noting all of his predictions tonight. It will be interesting to see if he addresses his predictions concerning Elenin and subsequent asteroid threat.