Snakes in Suits: Weeding out corporate Psychopaths

[Flash]

A strange question for you Carmody: we had a thread on Avalon about psychopaths about 11 months ago. It went on for a while, then slowly died with the expatriation of its owner.

Why take it up now? I do wholly agree that taking care of the problem is a planet wide emergency, but why did you pick it up and ran with an interventionist flavor now?

Anything to do with anything, such as astrology, inspiration, foresight clearer at this time, visions, name it.

Thanks in advance for the explanations.

[modwiz]

My answer for you, and apologies for opining unbidden, Flash, is, there was smoke and now there is fire. More like a conflagration. They are moving to consume the world and its abilities to mount a coherent and powerfully effective act of planetary hygiene. Asking this question makes me think you are not seeing what some of us see. That is what it is, no judgement. It would be spiritually unconscionable for me to not join Carmody in sounding the clarion call along with an effort to rally the troops in a dialogue for solutions. It would also be me not acting in concert with my Mother, Gaia, in standing up for my home, Her, and with Her, against a predator and infection that threatens those of us who were meant to be here and for whom the Dream is being dreamed. The nightmare is caused by actors alien and unwelcome here.

[modwiz]

Posted by Flash (here)
Modwiz, contamination by viruses or bacteria can run into family trees, therefore looking like being genetic. More, viruses can change the genetic codes of cells and therefore the transmission through generations becomes truly genetic. If it is viral though, reversal may be possible when science will be advanced enough. imho

I do believe these forces have done their best to move into our genetics and create situations that make their 'involvement' easier for them. Certain families and other lifestreams have been targeted as obviated from the trail of psychopathy left in their wake.

[Carmody]

Posted by Flash (here)
A strange question for you Carmody: we had a thread on Avalon about psychopaths about 11 months ago. It went on for a while, then slowly died with the expatriation of its owner.

Why take it up now? I do wholly agree that taking care of the problem is a planet wide emergency, but why did you pick it up and ran with an interventionist flavor now?

Anything to do with anything, such as astrology, inspiration, foresight clearer at this time, visions, name it.

Thanks in advance for the explanations.

Non personal generic --global consciousness rising --evidenced by popular media involvement of and in the topic. Common social media is the source of the originating article, thus the beginnings of the actual moment of the invocation of the imperative within the public -- a reflection the rising awareness.

Godspeed.

The view attempted to be brought to the table, in order to shape a potential motion in the public, must be of an early nature, with respect to timing.

Seeding.

Simplicity is key.

when I was 13 I began analysis of methodology of seeding, by testing such out on the world at large. My tests necessarily took time to show fruit, but fruit they did indeed bear. (recognition of depth of travel and impact was illustrated at age 20, 7 years deep)

The first time I did this, in reality, was at age 4, approximately. I recognized it and did it back then. I saw it for what it was, back then. it was done with empathy and caring, from a position of being damaged by forms of animalism, emotionalism, and other childish behaviors.

So yes, I first consciously engaged in fixing the self, a situation, and another at age 4.

It started with me, and achieving clarity in the given situation, and applying the right solution to the given problem. A solution that created a greater and more caring humanity. Not less.

The thing (force, etc) that we deal with in this thread came for me, came for us...right after that.

And tore my achievement to pieces.

I've been at this.... for a very long time.

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)
... there was smoke and now there is fire.

Starting to do testing at the grassroots level sounds like a plan.

Is there yet time for that approach???

[modwiz]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
... there was smoke and now there is fire.

Starting to do testing at the grassroots level sounds like a plan.

Is there yet time for that approach???

If we can move at the speed of mind, there is.

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
... there was smoke and now there is fire.

Starting to do testing at the grassroots level sounds like a plan.

Is there yet time for that approach???

If we can move at the speed of mind, there is.

I hope you are right.

The snakes are on the move as well ... raising the stakes as it were to act on the physical level. How long before such a move will be labeled as homegrown terrorism???

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Senate Rejects Amendment to ‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill

Section 1031 would strip Americans of all constitutional rights if they are declared ‘terrorists’

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, November 29, 2011

The Senate has overwhelmingly voted down an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that would have provided oversight to check the military’s power to arrest U.S. citizens as suspected terrorists on American soil and detain them indefinitely without trial.


“The Senate soundly defeated a move to strip out controversial language requiring mandatory detention of some terror suspects, voting it down 61 to 37 and escalating a fight with the Obama administration over the future course of the war on terror,” reports the National Journal.

The amendment, introduced by Colorado Senator Mark Udall, was an attempt to weaken Section 1031 of the NDAA bill, which would basically turn the entire “homeland” into a battlefield and allow the military to arrest individuals accused of being terrorists and detain them indefinitely without trial. Americans would be stripped of all constitutional rights and posse comitatus would cease to exist.

Confusion surrounding whether or not the bill would apply to American citizens was firmly put to bed by Republican Congressman Justin Amash yesterday, when he pointed out that the language clearly gives the executive branch the power of discretion to decide who is a terrorist, whether they are a U.S. citizen or not.

Amash described the ‘indefinite detention’ provision of the bill as “one of the most anti-liberty pieces of legislation of our lifetime.”

Senator Rand Paul has introduced a separate amendment that strikes Section 1031 from the bill altogether, but seeing as the Senate firmly rejected Udall’s watered down version, it’s unlikely Paul’s will be met sympathetically.

Although President Obama has threatened to veto the bill, political observers aren’t convinced that he will do so.

“He has said he will. Whether he will is a difficult question because, politically, it’s difficult to veto a defense spending bill that 680 pages long and includes authorization to spend on a whole range of military programs,” Daphne Eviatar, Senior Associate, Human Rights First’s Law and Security Program, told Democracy Now.

Eviatar’s organization has which has obtained signatures from 26 retired military leaders urging the Senate to vote down the legislation if the ‘indefinite detention’ provision is not removed.

“This would be the first time since the McCarthy era that the United States Congress has tried to do this,” warned Eviatar. “In the 1950’s, that was actually repealed before it was ever used. In this case have seen the administration very eagerly hold people without trial for 10 plus years in military detention, so there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t continue to do that here. So we’re talking about indefinite military detention of U.S. citizens, of lawful U.S. residents as well as of people abroad.”


http://www.infowars.com/senate-rejec...etention-bill/

[modwiz]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
... there was smoke and now there is fire.

Starting to do testing at the grassroots level sounds like a plan.

Is there yet time for that approach???

If we can move at the speed of mind, there is.

I hope you are right.

The snakes are on the move as well ... raising the stakes as it were to act on the physical level. How long before such a move will be labeled as homegrown terrorism???

_________________


Senate Rejects Amendment to ‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill

Section 1031 would strip Americans of all constitutional rights if they are declared ‘terrorists’

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, November 29, 2011

The Senate has overwhelmingly voted down an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that would have provided oversight to check the military’s power to arrest U.S. citizens as suspected terrorists on American soil and detain them indefinitely without trial.


“The Senate soundly defeated a move to strip out controversial language requiring mandatory detention of some terror suspects, voting it down 61 to 37 and escalating a fight with the Obama administration over the future course of the war on terror,” reports the National Journal.

The amendment, introduced by Colorado Senator Mark Udall, was an attempt to weaken Section 1031 of the NDAA bill, which would basically turn the entire “homeland” into a battlefield and allow the military to arrest individuals accused of being terrorists and detain them indefinitely without trial. Americans would be stripped of all constitutional rights and posse comitatus would cease to exist.

Confusion surrounding whether or not the bill would apply to American citizens was firmly put to bed by Republican Congressman Justin Amash yesterday, when he pointed out that the language clearly gives the executive branch the power of discretion to decide who is a terrorist, whether they are a U.S. citizen or not.

Amash described the ‘indefinite detention’ provision of the bill as “one of the most anti-liberty pieces of legislation of our lifetime.”

Senator Rand Paul has introduced a separate amendment that strikes Section 1031 from the bill altogether, but seeing as the Senate firmly rejected Udall’s watered down version, it’s unlikely Paul’s will be met sympathetically.

Although President Obama has threatened to veto the bill, political observers aren’t convinced that he will do so.

“He has said he will. Whether he will is a difficult question because, politically, it’s difficult to veto a defense spending bill that 680 pages long and includes authorization to spend on a whole range of military programs,” Daphne Eviatar, Senior Associate, Human Rights First’s Law and Security Program, told Democracy Now.

Eviatar’s organization has which has obtained signatures from 26 retired military leaders urging the Senate to vote down the legislation if the ‘indefinite detention’ provision is not removed.

“This would be the first time since the McCarthy era that the United States Congress has tried to do this,” warned Eviatar. “In the 1950’s, that was actually repealed before it was ever used. In this case have seen the administration very eagerly hold people without trial for 10 plus years in military detention, so there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t continue to do that here. So we’re talking about indefinite military detention of U.S. citizens, of lawful U.S. residents as well as of people abroad.”


http://www.infowars.com/senate-rejec...etention-bill/

Thanks for asking the question that needs asking. How long? About as long as you have have when a house begins to burn down. That is, not enough time to ask questions about how long, only about what are we going to do about it.

Am I making any sense?

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Thanks for asking the question that needs asking. How long? About as long as you have have when a house begins to burn down. That is, not enough time to ask questions about how long, only about what are we going to do about it.

Am I making any sense?

Certainly and I understand "time" can be worked with (around) in some manner on some levels.

However, in terms of a PHYSICAL implementation of testing (genetic or otherwise) starting by going through local government ... that is where I raise the "is there time" question.

Section 1031 would strip Americans of all constitutional rights if they are declared ‘terrorists’

Sounds like the witch trials all over again eh???

[Flash]

Thank you Carmody for your answer. I was just wondering about the seeding here, on Avalon. But your answer satisfies my curiosity anyhow. My questions were not about not being aware, but about why would this precise timing be more favourable for seeding and awareness.

It started with me, and achieving clarity in the given situation, and applying the right solution to the given problem. A solution that created a greater and more caring humanity. Not less.

The thing (force, etc) that we deal with in this thread came for me, came for us...right after that.

And tore my achievement to pieces.

I agree, these forces have been at us for a while and they are frantically active right now. And choices have to be made. Seeding should be fast and furious to get people to react and chose, right about now. imho

Modwiz, I have been at it too for many many years, in my own ways, and I am very conscious of what it entails on some levels (probably not all of them though, too complex). I love humanity and the planet itself.

I have been describing manipulation and how to recognize it to thousands locally up to now, for at least the last 7 years - I am just going further in my learning process about it. The seeding part was quite overwhelming at times for me. Really glad to have international help.

However, there is a major change in me with this thread: there is no mushy way to go anylonger, Carmody's words have hit inside, do and act as for the emergency it is and people will blindly follow. Inner iron will is needed at this time with a compassionate heart for those not able to chose, imho.

[modwiz]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
Thanks for asking the question that needs asking. How long? About as long as you have have when a house begins to burn down. That is, not enough time to ask questions about how long, only about what are we going to do about it.

Am I making any sense?

Certainly and I understand "time" can be worked with (around) in some manner on some levels.

However, in terms of a PHYSICAL implementation of testing (genetic or otherwise) starting by going through local government ... that is where I raise the "is there time" question.

Section 1031 would strip Americans of all constitutional rights if they are declared ‘terrorists’

Sounds like the witch trials all over again eh???

Absolutely. As it should. It is the same group doing the accusing and finger pointing. The house is on fire and we have a parasite problem.

[modwiz]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
Thanks for asking the question that needs asking. How long? About as long as you have have when a house begins to burn down. That is, not enough time to ask questions about how long, only about what are we going to do about it.

Am I making any sense?

Certainly and I understand "time" can be worked with (around) in some manner on some levels.

However, in terms of a PHYSICAL implementation of testing (genetic or otherwise) starting by going through local government ... that is where I raise the "is there time" question.

Section 1031 would strip Americans of all constitutional rights if they are declared ‘terrorists’

Sounds like the witch trials all over again eh???

I think the testing part is wholly unnecessary. You address the obvious and the hidden ones will expose themselves via the Ghandi progression I posted somewhere last night. I do not have it handy right now. It is the ignore you, ridicule you, fight you, then succumb thingy.

That is how I see it being very timely. Field tests are the only ones that matter. You can either act like a decent human or no. Tests are invented and given by people who don't like to work for living. Conceiving and wanting to test somebody is suspicious behavior, lol.

[Cjay]

The more I think about this, the more I realise we are at least a few thousand years beyond the point of being nice to these psychopaths. These evil bastards have been getting away with murdering, maiming, poisoning and starving hundreds of millions of people, stealing, defrauding, manipulating, etc., etc., throughout history. Let's identify and catch every last one of them, stip them of all their proceeds of crime, lock them in prisons and throw away the keys.

Maybe we can be nice again after we have completely reset/rebalanced society with new rules and new paradigms, when the interests of 99% of the world's population and the Earth itself are being properly protected for at least a century.

Obviously, this is a huge task, considering that 1% of the population amounts to 70 million psychopaths.

[Calz]

Another sampling of the psychopath rollout (just a snippet):

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Globalists purchase millions of toxic HPV vaccines for girls in third world

Ethan Huff
Infowars.com
November 29, 2011

At its recent board meeting in Bangladesh, the GAVI Alliance, formerly known as the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations, announced plans to bring the deadly human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines Gardasil (Merck & Co.) and Cervarix (GlaxoSmithKline) into the third world. A pro-vaccination group backed by the World Bank, UNICEF, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and the vaccine industry, GAVI’s stated goal is to vaccinate 240 million children by 2015.

As many as two million women and girls in nine unidentified developing countries could soon receive one of the two HPV vaccines, even though HPV is potentially linked to only one percent, of all cervical cancers, according to some reports ...

story at:

http://www.infowars.com/globalists-p...n-third-world/

[modwiz]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Another sampling of the psychopath rollout (just a snippet):

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Globalists purchase millions of toxic HPV vaccines for girls in third world

Ethan Huff
Infowars.com
November 29, 2011

At its recent board meeting in Bangladesh, the GAVI Alliance, formerly known as the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations, announced plans to bring the deadly human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines Gardasil (Merck & Co.) and Cervarix (GlaxoSmithKline) into the third world. A pro-vaccination group backed by the World Bank, UNICEF, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and the vaccine industry, GAVI’s stated goal is to vaccinate 240 million children by 2015.

As many as two million women and girls in nine unidentified developing countries could soon receive one of the two HPV vaccines, even though HPV is potentially linked to only one percent, of all cervical cancers, according to some reports ...

story at:

http://www.infowars.com/globalists-p...n-third-world/

I think the answer is to just reason with them.

Please see my previous posts for context.

[modwiz]

Smiley Concept Art: Reasoning with Psycopaths

[araucaria]

I would agree that there are many bandwaggoners who are just playing the system, and that when that system is changed, they will doubtless continue playing the system until this initially self-interested approach is turned into something else.

The question is how to decapitate the present system. The thing about the negative approach is that it is always hierarchical - everyone has superiors whose method (take it out on subordinates) they copy. Hence we have governments, secret governments, ETs, more ETS: you never get to the top.

The positive approach on the other hand is in a sense 'topless' - we are all on a par, all grass-roots people. So, in some ways counter-intuitively, the answer has to come from the grass-roots.

This I think is the real symbolism of the pyramid: the capstone is not the attainment of some kind of perfection. They are trying to place a capstone to seal things off, against what we want, i.e. an open system.

[Calz]

David Icke often puts forth the image of a pyramid structure where you take out part of the base and the whole structure collapses.

I agree completely regarding trying to trace just exactly where the "top" of the structure is (how far *up* the rabbit hole to go???)

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Tony, your effort is appreciated but this may not be received well by you, or some others. I hope to be wrong.

G'day Modwiz,

Above all else, you intended no offence, and none was taken

I am followlng this thread with great interest, and simply wished to put forward an alternative point of view.

All the Best,

Tony.

[araucaria]

Just as the pyramid has no top, its base can be anywhere - wherever one happens to be operating.

If you are at the top yourself, work on the top. We are not, so we make our effort right here where we are.

We are not alone!