Richard Hoagland

[jagman]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

I lost interest in their show, to be honest.
People who never reply to me tend to lose any respect they might have had.

[Cartomancer]

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

Ask him to address why he made all these erroneous predictions. Ask him why none of them came to pass. Ask him why we should go on trusting anything he says. Thanks.

[jagman]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

Ask him to address why he made all these erroneous predictions. Ask him why none of them came to pass. Ask him why we should go on trusting anything he says. Thanks.

If i get through I will ask him.

[RMorgan]

Hey Jagman,

I would ask:

1-Mr. Hoagland, why do you still trust your sources after they were proven to be wrong on many occasions?

2-Mr.Hoagland, do you think that there´s a possibility that someone is playing you, deliberately giving you fake information trough your sources, in order to discredit the alternative media, or for any other reasons?

That´s all I can think right now...Anyway, if you manage to ask him these questions, I would really like to see his reactions; Will him be humble and assume his mistakes, or will he perform an evasive maneuver?

Good luck,

Raf.

[jagman]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey Jagman,

I would ask:

1-Mr. Hoagland, why do you still trust your sources after they were proven to be wrong on many occasions?

2-Mr.Hoagland, do you think that there´s a possibility that someone is playing you, deliberately giving you fake information trough your sources, in order to discredit the alternative media, or for any other reasons?

That´s all I can think right now...Anyway, if you manage to ask him these
questions, I would really like to see his reactions; Will him be humble and assume his mistakes, or will he perform an evasive maneuver?

Good luck,

Raf.

I like your questions and i will ask if i can get through tonight. Im not sure how all
this will square with George but I think these are good questions that need to be
asked

[Truthseeker512]

Ask him why he believes there are artificial structures on/orbiting Mars, simply from photos decades old, that NO archaeologist has had the opportunity to verify, yet he laughs at the Bosnian Pyramid claim despite there being 100s of archaeologists, physicists, structural engineers, geologists, anthropologists, material scientists etc who are willing to put their professional/academic reputations on the line and confirm Dr Semir Osmanagics discovery.

Lack of 'data' is not a satisfying answer considering there are many, many scientific reports from dozens of universities/academics and NON for the majority of what he makes a living off.



Then ask him if he only made his History Channel 2012 Mayan Special for the cash.


This is a Mayan elder who I met this summer. He came to visit the excavations. There was no doubt in his mind as to the authenticity of the discovery.

[eric charles]

Ask him about those photos from that t.v show , was it UFO digest or something of the sort ,

[Cartomancer]

Great point. I have done some archaeology professionally. I have always wondered about his obsession with structures on Mars when there are so many bizarre things to study and find right here on earth. It seems like a grand distraction. As an author I can also say that if you don't subscribe to issues like structures on Mars and UFO's you are soundly ignored. The truth is much stranger than any theories that involve these things. I think much of this is to cover up the real truth about history. It's like they have created a fairy tale world for all of those that question the status quo.

I'm not saying that UFO's or the structures are not impossible but I think they are being used to create a smokescreen. Hoagland has been one of the main people promoting all of this and he should be scrutinized for it. Bravo to Project Avalon and Bill for putting all of this info out there for us to study and analyze.

[jaybee]

Posted by jagman (here)
tonight's show
1am - 5am ET
10pm - 2am PT
Mars & Phobos
Wed 11-30
C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, will discuss the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars. He'll also talk about NASA's "Curiosity" rover, the next generation of massive robotic spacecraft, and the inner Martian moon and the possibility it's more likely to be "an ancient ET spaceship" than an actual natural moon.

I have heard a lot about Hoagland this week on PA. Maybe someone from Pa could call
in and ask Hoagland about some of the accusations?

thanks jagman....I won't be able to listen to it live, but hopefully it will be up on YouTube fairly soon.


Richard Hoagland, like the rest of us, is not perfect...but I believe he is sincere and has made a massive contribution to the Alternative Media.


I, personally, don't like to see Hoagland bashing on forums like this...but we have to remember that this forum, like any forum dealing with conspiracies etc. will be heavily infiltrated.

Not saying that anyone who disagrees with or bashes Hoagland is a spook...but I am convinced that he is way up in the top section of the spook's hitlist.

I expect the subject of Elenin and YU 55 will come up and it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

I hope to be able to hear the whole interview asap as I always find Hoagland to be a good and interesting speaker.

cheers

[Daft Ada]

Hi Jagman, I won't be able to listen live either as I am in the UK and asleep then, but I will hear the show next day and I would welcome some delicately put questions of that nature and I would also be very interested if you report back that you were not allowed to ask those sorts of questions

[jagman]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi Jagman, I won't be able to listen live either as I am in the UK and asleep then, but I will hear the show next day and I would welcome some delicately put questions of that nature and I would also be very interested if you report back that you were not allowed to ask those sorts of questions

I plan on using a technique that i have used in the past on coast.
When my call is fielded I will ask a question that is not deemed to controversial.
But when i am on the air I will be respectful but will ask Hoagland some questions
he might not want to answer. I have talked to some people who have met Hoagland
and they say he can be quite arrogant.

[RMorgan]

Posted by jaybee (here)

thanks jagman....I won't be able to listen to it live, but hopefully it will be up on YouTube fairly soon.


Richard Hoagland, like the rest of us, is not perfect...but I believe he is sincere and has made a massive contribution to the Alternative Media.


I, personally, don't like to see Hoagland bashing on forums like this...but we have to remember that this forum, like any forum dealing with conspiracies etc. will be heavily infiltrated.

Not saying that anyone who disagrees with or bashes Hoagland is a spook...but I am convinced that he is way up in the top section of the spook's hitlist.

I expect the subject of Elenin and YU 55 will come up and it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

I hope to be able to hear the whole interview asap as I always find Hoagland to be a good and interesting speaker.

cheers

Dear Jaybee,

Hoagland doesn´t need any infiltrator to ruin his reputation. He´s doing it all by himself.

Anyway, I don´t think he´s a bad person. I just think someone found a way to manipulate him to tell lies believing it´s true.

If the rumors of him being arrogant are correct, this might be the reason. Arrogant persons are egocentric persons, and these kind of persons are the easier to manipulated, with just some sweet ego-massaging mixed with lies.

Cheers,

Raf.

[jackovesk]

Richard Hoagland - Secret Space Research (Mars - Phobus - YU55)

C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, discussed the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars and what may be the true nature of those missions. He suggested that the agenda behind the Russian Phobos-Grunt craft is not to travel to the Martian inner moon, but to actually journey to the YU55 asteroid that recently passed by Earth. He theorized that the Russians are interested in this object because it is not merely an asteroid, but is actually a craft. The origins of this craft, Hoagland said, could be from an ancient civilization that once populated the galaxy but was destroyed in a massive war.

While the dueling Martian missions of the US and Russia may appear to be a new space race, Hoagland put forward the idea that it is really "a covert cooperation with the illusion of a competition." In this scenario, he said, the Russians are hoping to land their craft on the YU55 and take samples of it. Meanwhile, the Americans may have used their secret spy plane, known as the X-37B, to "rendezvous with YU55 as it comes through the system" and take detailed images of the object. Hoagland pointed to news that the X-37B was ending its latest mission early as a potential sign that "it's bringing something home." He cited a BBC report which quoted a Russian astronomer who described "strange structures" on YU55 as well as the repeated comparisons of the 'asteroid' to an aircraft carrier as potentially leaked clues to what the object really is.

Regarding NASA's Curiosity Rover, Hoagland surmised that, if his theories are correct, it will ultimately lead to the disclosure that there was once an ancient race of people on the Red Planet. He explained that the planned landing site for Curiosity is inside the Gale Crater on Mars, where a mysterious mountain sits in the center. The origin of this mountain, Hoagland noted, baffles astronomers. Based on his study of photos of this land mass, he contended that it is "an ancient structure." Noting that Curiosity is nuclear powered, rather than solar powered like previous Mars rovers, Hoagland speculated that perhaps NASA plans on using the vehicle to explore inside this ancient structure. Beyond that, he revealed that Curiosity's nuclear design will also allow for it to potentially be used to journey to Cydonia and examine the infamous anomalies found there.

Richard C. Hoagland, shares some images of Mars which he will discussed on the 11/30/11 edition of the program. Richard says ...

NASA's latest, NUCLEAR-powered "breakthrough" unmanned rover mission -- aptly named "Curiosity" -- is now safely on its way to Mars, arriving next August, 2012; while, in striking contrast, the equally"breakthrough" unmanned Russian "Phobos-Grunt" mission (carrying a Chinese satellite!), destined to explore the exotic inner Martian "moon", Phobos--

Is still mysteriously "stuck"--

In low-Earth orbit!

Or ... is it?

For my "Coast" fans and friends, here's a preview of tonight's show ....

This (below) is what's at stake, waiting for the Russians to solve their "parking orbit problem."

http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html

And, for the American mission, its intended target -- Gale Crater -- has an equally astonishing "surprise" awaiting its successful landing next August--

A full blown, ancient, 3-mile-high "tetrahedral arcology" ... on Mars (see image #1)!

On tonight's "Coast," I will be discussing extraordinary details of a potential, three-way, "21st Century Space Race"--

As to who will be the FIRST--

To first to FIND -- and then ANNOUNCE ... in 2012 --- first-hand scientific PROOF of "ancient Life at Mars?!"

The second, close-up image (image #2) is a recent Mars Reconniassance Orbiter (MRO) close-in view of an exposed small section of the "Gale Crater arcology's" lowest-level ROOMS -- which "Curiosity" will be INTENSELY exploring, with a variety of super-sophisticated instruments ... over the next several YEARS ....

Note the incredible "right-angles" and even "3-D pyramids) in this tiny section of a MUCH larger, official NASA "Gale Crater Arcology" image.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SD_kqabsNU

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jcfvqmLqGn8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fkdKExV6q74

Update on YU55

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4UY14G9MoCU

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8yx3ltA6Ri4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KBA3_M21A_o

Caller Questions

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1vfSldZnCk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=roDXd5RQgKM

PS - Should be interesting..? Have'nt listen to the show yet...

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks for posting. Putting my discernment boots on as I wade into the muck and mire of anything hoagland these days.

[Cartomancer]

I listened to the show last night. What he has done now is simply morphed his previous theories about Elenin and YU55 into something new. Now the Russian Mars probe and the US mars probe are part of a "secret mission." When pressed to answer questions about his previous claims he denied saying anything about it. I think it may have been Jagman that asked the last question on the show last night. He sidestepped it just like a politician. He basically did not answer the question when challenged about what he thought Elenin was.

It's kind of weird. He simply took his earlier erroneous predictions and simply changed them to fit the two Mars missions. This is B.S. because those missions were known of when he was spreading all the fear porn about Elenin before it passed and he never linked them to what he was saying. Now all of the sudden these two space missions are "part of this theory." He is grasping for straws and simply telling us things based on a bunch of B.S. I was hoping I would be proven wrong last night but he just is not reliable in my judgement. This guy is just an established party line mouthpiece and I am just not buying.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Thanks for posting. Putting my discernment boots on as I wade into the muck and mire of anything hoagland these days.

Exactly Unified Serenity,

Make sure your boots are air-tight & waterproof to keep out the BS...

[Mutchie]

i must get new boots mine are not air tight or water proof ...... i will drown in the BS lol Hoagland Mmmm whose side is he really on it makes you wanderif he is still involved with nasa in some way the people trust or they did and he gets to a far reaching audience

[RMorgan]

I think Hoagland is in the wrong business. He would be much more happy and successful if he was a Sci-Fi writer or something like that. He´s really creative.

[Cartomancer]

I listened to the show last night. When challenged about his previous statements about what Elenin was he back pedaled just like a politician and did not answer the question.

Really what I am wondering here is why he has had to change his theories. Before Elenin passed and as it approached these two Mars missions were known of. Why weren't they part of this theory then? Now that the comet and asteroid have passed there is now a "secret mission" involving the Russioan probe and the Curiosity probe from the US. Basically what this guy is doing is making it up as he goes along. When the Russian probe fails to launch from orbit what is he going to say then? Elenin did nothing. YU55 did nothing. This guy directly side stepped questions about what he thought the comet was (a tetrahedral space ship) and his calling for a New World Order. He changed the subject right away.

Nothing to be afraid of now. Must make up additional threat using the same inane B.S. I used to scare them before. Must create fear porn while ridiculing others who do so. This is a person who called for a New World Order at the UN. He says it is just so he could get funding. I don't know which is worse saying it just to get funding or actually meaning it. This guy is a public relations pro who used to work for a major network. He is not a scientist at all. This is who we look to for info about what is going on in space?