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    Default Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Didn't see this posted with a scan of Dutchsinse. He dives headlong into the political spectrum with some of the nonsense (fascist police state) topics that are currently bubbling up.


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    Don't normally cover social / political events unless they encroach on the topics I cover (earthquakes, weather, weather modification, and space anomalies) ---

    With the current "talk" about attacking Irans NUCLEAR FACILITIES is buzzing around.. with Fukushima Japan nuclear meltdown still occurring.. it is time to say the obvious... this is NOT a good idea to even TALK about blowing up ANOTHER series of Nuclear facilities.

    Also, the new "military authorization bill" s. 1867-- effects me directly.. since I WAS REPORTED TO BE A POTENTIAL TERRORIST THREAT as well as ALL MY VIEWERS --- this was done to me on the fully moderated DHS .gov (department of homeland security) Blog.



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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Well, if things keep heading this way, even a forum like PA wouldn´t be allowed to exist in the future.

    If Mr.Obama Banana actually approve this bill, people like Dutchsinse, who are far away from being terrorists, will be in serious trouble.

    You know, Brazil used to be a dictatorship between 1964 and 1985. People had no option but to agree with the government. Whoever talked against it was tortured, raped, murdered, arrested with absolute no rights to a trial or defense.

    I fear for my friends from the USA if this bill comes to reality.

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Citizens of the USA have guns and ammunition.

    Lots and lots of both. ridiculous amounts.

    It would be a very messy proposition, at best.

    For now, at this time. things change, in the wrong direction, if one is not careful and attentive.

    Thus the slow creep of terrorist mindset gameplay: To externalize the enemy in the average person, to ostracize those who may know better, to estrange the knowledgeable from the sleepers, so the sleepers -as a mass- can be used to attack the knowledgeable and capable.

    This is how it is always done.

    Recognize that key point ---and one is halfway there to undoing their creeping influence.

    The other half is --acting on it.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Well, if things keep heading this way, even a forum like PA wouldn´t be allowed to exist in the future.

    If Mr.Obama Banana actually approve this bill, people like Dutchsinse, who are far away from being terrorists, will be in serious trouble.

    You know, Brazil used to be a dictatorship between 1964 and 1985. People had no option but to agree with the government. Whoever talked against it was tortured, raped, murdered, arrested with absolute no rights to a trial or defense.

    I fear for my friends from the USA if this bill comes to reality.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    Brazil, like the rest of the western world.... is STILL a dictatorship, it is just..... 'resting for a bit'.

    Like everywhere else, they just move between situations where they have to show their hand (unwillingly, I might add) to get things done... vs... being able to hide their hand.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    They are getting everything in play. Whatever the "play" maybe.......and yes it's coming.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Senator Kirk speaks on the Feinstein Amendment No.1125:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBsaePlbLJk

    Senator Kirk, R-IL, November 30, 2011, floor speech in support of the Feinstein amendment to S. 1867, the FY 2012 Defense Authorization bill. Amdt No.1125 clarified the applicability of requirements for military custody with respect to detainees of citizens apprehended within the borders of the united States. The amendment failed by a vote of 45-55.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    i am just appalled at this. apparently, any opinion or fact stated by any person, is enough to end that life as that person knows it. what a bunch of horse spittle. the ptw are throwing the hammer down, none of us are safe from this. if it's happening here in the u.s., it is going to happen everywhere else as well. be safe everyone.
    regards, corson

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Well, if things keep heading this way, even a forum like PA wouldn´t be allowed to exist in the future.

    If Mr.Obama Banana actually approve this bill, people like Dutchsinse, who are far away from being terrorists, will be in serious trouble.

    You know, Brazil used to be a dictatorship between 1964 and 1985. People had no option but to agree with the government. Whoever talked against it was tortured, raped, murdered, arrested with absolute no rights to a trial or defense.

    I fear for my friends from the USA if this bill comes to reality.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    Obama has already promised a veto for any such legislation...I've heard of this guy from a number of years ago...

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    At least in the USA you have guns to protect yourselves. In most other countries we don't have them.

    Stan
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Obama is threatening to veto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012
    Much will depend on his next action as to how his past and current supporters will view him.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ts_mandate.php
    Quote Ryan J. Reilly November 17, 2011, 1:38 PM

    President Barack Obama is threatening to veto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 over “unnecessary, untested, and legally controversial” restrictions imposed by Congress which would mandate certain terrorism suspects go into military custody.

    “The Administration objects to and has serious legal and policy concerns about many of the detainee provisions in the bill,” the White House said in a statement. “In their current form, some of these provisions disrupt the Executive branch’s ability to enforce the law and impose unwise and unwarranted restrictions on the U.S. Government’s ability to aggressively combat international terrorism; other provisions inject legal uncertainty and ambiguity that may only complicate the military’s operations and detention practices.”

    Specifically, the administration “strongly objects to the military custody provision of section 1032, which would appear to mandate military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects.”

    The administration says that the “unnecessary, untested, and legally controversial restriction of the President’s authority to defend the Nation from terrorist threats would tie the hands of our intelligence and law enforcement professionals.” The statement continues:

    Moreover, applying this military custody requirement to individuals inside the United States, as some Members of Congress have suggested is their intention, would raise serious and unsettled legal questions and would be inconsistent with the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets. We have spent ten years since September 11, 2001, breaking down the walls between intelligence, military, and law enforcement professionals; Congress should not now rebuild those walls and unnecessarily make the job of preventing terrorist attacks more difficult. Specifically, the provision would limit the flexibility of our national security professionals to choose, based on the evidence and the facts and circumstances of each case, which tool for incapacitating dangerous terrorists best serves our national security interests. The waiver provision fails to address these concerns, particularly in time-sensitive operations in which law enforcement personnel have traditionally played the leading role. These problems are all the more acute because the section defines the category of individuals who would be subject to mandatory military custody by substituting new and untested legislative criteria for the criteria the Executive and Judicial branches are currently using for detention under the AUMF in both habeas litigation and military operations. Such confusion threatens our ability to act swiftly and decisively to capture, detain, and interrogate terrorism suspects, and could disrupt the collection of vital intelligence about threats to the American people.

    “Any bill that challenges or constrains the President’s critical authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists, and protect the Nation would prompt the President’s senior advisers to recommend a veto.,” the statement says.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    I’m sitting here with tears of frustration.

    There has been video, after video . . . stacks of info warning of all these same scenario’s . . . I’ve been following and compiling seriously for the past 8 years.

    What Dutch says is TRUE all of it . . . .OPEN your eyes!!!

    Did you listen through the entire video in the OP???? If you believe even ¼ of it are you going to take action??

    I’m drop dead serious here . . . I’m so frustrated . . . . .If you aren’t going to take action WHY NOT . . . .I really want to know.

    What is keeping everyone that reads or listens to this type of solid information from taking stock and actually getting up from your computer and start THINKING of a way to build a NEW LIFE . . . A NEW FUTURE . . . . . if not for you then for the next generations?

    What is keeping you back . . . . .I thought people on this forum would be so much more proactive. . . . .but I swear I feel like I’m the only one on this forum that has actually done something of consequence.

    Yes there has been individual collection of “survival gear” but how long will that hold out??? That is a defensive action . . . . I have taken an offensive action . . . .proactive action . . . I will not be a victim . . . .I will not roll over and show my underbelly. . . .

    I’m talking a new way of life that can be carried into the future.

    I’m really about done here . . .I just feel like it’s a waste of my time . . ..

    I want to help people . . . .I want to start dialoguing about new possibilities . . . .there is NONE OF THIS going on here.

    Why does it seem no one is doing anything of consequence am I ignorant and blind???

    I am seriously about done here . . . . .

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    From the vid - "The nineteen sixties represented the last burst of the human being before it was extinguished."

    Wow. I dont believe its true, but that rang a bell in my head. As if this was an important warning. One that enough of us heeded.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Asttologically speaking:

    the Uranian energies of the 1960's....has actually....returned.

    It is not identical energy but it is indeed here again.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    I dont know enough about astrollogy but I can see that the energy has returned.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    There are 56 users on this thread right now . . . . 16 members.

    What dutch reports rings true with many . . . .

    Okay if it rings true then what should we do??

    What is keeping you from stepping out of the game?? Starting a new way of life?? Even just to begin throwing out ideas . . . .

    Is it your afraid of not having a job?

    Not having money?

    Where would you go?

    Not being able to pay taxes?

    Not having tv or internet?

    Waiting for the sledge hammer to come down full force so then you know for sure your up S * * T creek . . .with a boat or paddle?

    I’m serious what is holding us back?

    I want to start a thread but I’m not good at that sort of thing . . . What could we call it to get serious dialogue going on building a practical new way a life . . . something truly attainable and thrive . . . . .not like how to feed ourselves on air (the breatharian thing)

    Anybody???

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Yes . . . . we all feel the energy . . . . all of us . . . . even the people that don’t even know Avalon exists

    Got it . . . yep . . . energy . . . we all feel it . . . .

    SO ??? What NOW . . . .

    How awake do we have to be???

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    I’ll go first . . . .

    What if I told you I already have foundational plans laid out for free sustainable energy for the area I live in now . . . .

    Free . . . .sustainable . . . clean . . . .for everyone

    INTERESTED NOW??

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    blufire, be a leader and don't give up so soon, things take time even though time is RUNNING out. why don't you tell all the defensive, offensive and proactive actions in detail that you have implemented? you remind me of the gentleman in the vid you vent frustration in tears and he verbally. it never ceases to amaze me, even though i know how we human beings are mirror images of each other with minor reflective differences. i see me in you also. i understand fully the concern you profess to have in service to others and that is a highly respected soul quality. we hear and we listen, some hear and out of fear/denial are avoiding listening, some are cautious in what they want to divulge. you have heard the expression," you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink". that is why i suggested that you open the discussion. i have been listening to Dutch for quite sometime and i know that many here at Avalon do so. i have found that he is quite consistent in being correct and spot on with his information. you seem to be too impatient, i know you want the best for all but, if one doesn't acquire patience then one cannot enjoy the success of ones labor. forge forward with great persistence. There are many here on Avalon that are right along side of you, thinking, watching and preparing/are prepared. i tell you that i have been aware of these tragic happenings for quite a long time, my eyes are open, all 3 of them lol ! don't give up on Avalon, just think if you help just one avalonian, you have done a great service for humanity and universally. thank you for your concern, seed planting and helping others to stay awake, it is much appreciated. take care blufire. namaste, love and peace universally

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    63 viewers . . . . . 20 members

    Spit it out . . . what is keeping us from taking that first step . . .

    Like the video on another thread where the little beagles stepped out of their cages on grass for the first time . . . . .

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Have no fear, we will see some nasty stuff, then be offered a peace proposal no nation will turn down. Truly, all is ok and happening as it should. I'm not kidding, don't lose your peace. Oh, it's a bad thing, but you are not going to stop it. This is a spiritual battle in a 3d world. We can watch for dates, just know to walk in peace, set aside rations for times of need, and learn some basic skills to help one another and move forward.

    Love and blessings,

    Serenity

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