Alternative to Gmail

[Zillah]

Hey all!!

Just wondering what you use for your email clients, I have been thinking about privacy as of late and I'm unsure if I'd like to continue using gmail.

Thanks!

[Jonathon]

Would like to know the same myself - thanks for starting this topic!

[ThePythonicCow]

I highly recommend fastmail.fm , which I have used for quite a few years as my main email service.

I use the paying side myself (something like $20/year, if I recall), so can't speak for the free side. But they are honest and detailed in their product description, so if the free side sounds like what you want, then it should perform as advertised.

[Bongo]

I've used hotmail for about 12 years now, its nothing special... it does what i need it for. I think getting rid of your gmail is a good idea but even with that said is there an email service you would trust 100%??? I can't say I would trust 1 100%... & it is internet based after all, if someone wants in bad enough they could get in... unfortunately

[Zillah]

Thanks Paul - 20 bucks a year seems very reasonable for privacy... I will check it out...

I'd still love to hear what others are using...

I just came across this http://www.inbox.com/ - seems interesting enough, free + 5 gigs storage - if others have heard about it/used it pls post here.

All ears...

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Posted by Loony (here)
I've used hotmail for about 12 years now, its nothing special... it does what i need it for. I think getting rid of your gmail is a good idea but even with that said is there an email service you would trust 100%??? I can't say I would trust 1 100%... & it is internet based after all, if someone wants in bad enough they could get in... unfortunately

Close to 100% is what im looking for, gmail I feel is very far from that - altho I do agree with you anyway, 100%

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

If you are thinking about privacy then you may want to have a client that isn't governed by USA policy.

You may want to look at this client? http://www.gmx.com/

[Zillah]

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
If you are thinking about privacy then you may want to have a client that isn't governed by USA policy.

You may want to look at this client? http://www.gmx.com/

"Log in with Facebook" -- arrggg.....

[58andfixed]

Free Email Services Reviews:

Top 10 compared.

http://free-email-services-review.toptenreviews.com/

In-depth review of inbox.com :

http://free-email-services-review.to...om-review.html

Heads-up on "how to uninstall inbox.com" :

http://forums.techarena.in/operating...ms/1186792.htm

Seems to be an issue with the 'email notifier toolbar.'

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I'm not sure how PGP will 'stack up' with web-access versus POP3 ways of emailing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

Maybe some input might shine more light on the topic.

Maybe just an issue of 'relativity' and making those that peek having to work just a bit harder.

- 58

[Phoenix]

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
If you are thinking about privacy then you may want to have a client that isn't governed by USA policy.

You may want to look at this client? http://www.gmx.com/

Hello, how is this client not governed by US policy? The US logs every email and call made in this country.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Zillah. Sorry I didn't see the f/book link for I have the scripts off. Me Bad.

Phoenix..Zillah isn't in the US so how would the US have the authority to log / monitor conversation which are outside & that by-passes their boarders?

[norman]

Whatever your email storage and front end is, it makes absolutely no difference. Well. that's not quite true. There is a difference if what you are concerned about is spamish noise. Paul's suggestion is probably a great idea if you just want to be relatively spam free.

As for real privacy, forget it. No way in web hell are you going to get that. If you have something critical to say to someone you can't talk to face to face in a noisy zone, that you don't want the executive nosey parkers to know, your best bet is to write it on paper and put it in the post.

There are other more specialist methods of electronic coms that work very well but it's not something for a novice to mess with as a substitute for a regular email service.

I use G-Mail and Yahoo mail. I get an escalating amount of spam and, of course, all those targetted creepy adverts that just let me know they are scanning everything I and my contacts write in emails. It's the spam that pi**es me off. The privacy thing is just something I live with and I don't email anything I want to keep shtoom.

[Zillah]

I think I will return to the good ol horse and buggy

Thanks for all the input and advice, I will ponder on this some more -- keep the suggestions coming!

You all rock.

[Cjay]

Posted by Zillah (here)
Hey all!!

Just wondering what you use for your email clients, I have been thinking about privacy as of late and I'm unsure if I'd like to continue using gmail.

Thanks!

I have been saying this for at least 20 years. Most people still don't get it.

Privacy on the internet is virtually impossible.
Once you connect to the internet via wire or wireless, your privacy is gone.

Everything you do online - and I mean EVERYTHING - is recorded.

You can turn your PC off and go to bed feeling safe n secure. They can turn your PC on, do whatever they want, almost as if they were sitting at your keyboard, then turn it off again before you wake up - all by remote control.

EVERYTHING your computer can do under your control, it can do without your help.

If you want to be secure and private, do not connect to the internet.

[Zillah]

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by Zillah (here)
Hey all!!

Just wondering what you use for your email clients, I have been thinking about privacy as of late and I'm unsure if I'd like to continue using gmail.

Thanks!

I have been saying this for at least 20 years. Most people still don't get it.

Privacy on the internet is virtually impossible.
Once you connect to the internet via wire or wireless, your privacy is gone.

Everything you do online - and I mean EVERYTHING - is recorded.

You can turn your PC off and go to bed feeling safe n secure. They can turn your PC on, do whatever they want, almost as if they were sitting at your keyboard, then turn it off again before you wake up - all by remote control.

EVERYTHING your computer can do under your control, it can do without your help.

If you want to be secure and private, do not connect to the internet.

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Zillah. Sorry I didn't see the f/book link for I have the scripts off. Me Bad.

Phoenix..Zillah isn't in the US so how would the US have the authority to log / monitor conversation which are outside & that by-passes their boarders?

You know, I usually go beyond the scare tactics of privacy - but today I watched a clip on RT -- and for some reason, more than usual - it made my cogs turn... perhaps the fear mongering is working.

After reading all your replies, perhaps there there is another way to go about this - live in paranoia and those acts will manifest - or - live in a state of freedom and attract just that...

At the end there was mention about certain software to protect people from using such clients like gmail and/or their cellphone devices - this might be the right convo to have...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BQveLsoy78Y

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

You may want to look at Tor

[Zillah]

Posted by Cjay (here)

I have been saying this for at least 20 years. Most people still don't get it.

I get it. Thanks for your input.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Zillah Hi

I've been aware of the story in that video for a while now. Richard Stallman (rms) has been warning folk about this for a few years, but folk just laughed or rubbished him really.

[KosmicKat]

Posted by Cjay (here)
You can turn your PC off and go to bed feeling safe n secure. They can turn your PC on, do whatever they want, almost as if they were sitting at your keyboard, then turn it off again before you wake up - all by remote control.

EVERYTHING your computer can do under your control, it can do without your help.

I very much doubt that the computer can be activated remotely if the power is physically disconnected before you leave the console. Battery power to the motherboard is just enough to keep the internal clock running. Not enough to run the hard disks.

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Zillah. Sorry I didn't see the f/book link for I have the scripts off. Me Bad.

Phoenix..Zillah isn't in the US so how would the US have the authority to log / monitor conversation which are outside & that by-passes their boarders?

You assume that the US government monitors haven't already arrogated to themselves that authority.

[norman]

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Zillah. Sorry I didn't see the f/book link for I have the scripts off. Me Bad.

Phoenix..Zillah isn't in the US so how would the US have the authority to log / monitor conversation which are outside & that by-passes their boarders?

It get's crazier than that, even.

As I understand things, The US monitors the Brits for the Brit Gov'/intel and the Brits monitor the US for the US gov'/intel.

It's a game they play to firewall their activities better against domestic regulations.

It's even more centrally run than that in reality. The NSA are doing it all, but shelled up inside national enclaves like Menwith Hill in UK is a Brit RAF base but the operation inside is NSA.

I could go on and fascinate you with lots of juicy bits but it's not a wise thing to get into here like this.

[Franny]

Ben Rich of Skunkworks : "There are no private conversations anywhere on Earth."

I guess that about sums up privacy issues...