David Icke 2011

[modwiz]

I am right there with Icke and Wilde. There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot. If Stuie is seeing billions then he must be able to perceive the infected along with the infectors. What a mess to clean up.

Thanks for the link.

[Mark]

Posted by modwiz (here)
There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot.

This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out myself. If the Reptilians (whatever planet they're from, if they're Annunaki or not, if they're descendants of dinosauras or not) are all corporeal or astral or both. If some groups are and some groups are not. And if the groups that have not figured out higher dimensional access are subject to control by the Archons who seem to be fully incorporeal . I heard a guy the other day saying Lash was wrong, and the Greys and Reptilians don't represent the Archons. That the Nag Hammadi speaks of the Archons being like "unformed" fetuses, which is more like amoebas. This guy also claims that the pictures that constable took back in the day are the Archons. He says that Casteneda/Don Juan called them the Night Flyers, or the Foreign Installation, which were similarly amoeba-like, unformed.

[modwiz]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot.

This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out myself. If the Reptilians (whatever planet they're from, if they're Annunaki or not, if they're descendants of dinosauras or not) are all corporeal or astral or both. If some groups are and some groups are not. And if the groups that have not figured out higher dimensional access are subject to control by the Archons who seem to be fully incorporeal . I heard a guy the other day saying Lash was wrong, and the Greys and Reptilians don't represent the Archons. That the Nag Hammadi speaks of the Archons being like "unformed" fetuses, which is more like amoebas. This guy also claims that the pictures that constable took back in the day are the Archons. He says that Casteneda/Don Juan called them the Night Flyers, or the Foreign Installation, which were similarly amoeba-like, unformed.

Screw the details. Too much distraction. By their fruits you will know them. I just know?, they are based 4th dimensionally and have representation here on earth in a few possible scenarios. Trying to figure out who has the exact definition correct is definitely part of their game. I said I work with a concept. Like putting something on my hard drive, it is up for editing or deletion. The problem is identified by the rotten fruit and bad smell. I can work with all of the above descriptions, like the biota of an evil dimension there are more than one form of expression. Sounds right for a 4th dimensional being(s).

I hope that was helpful.

[Mark]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Screw the details. Too much distraction ... I hope that was helpful.

LOL Yes, it was, VERY.

I know what you mean, though. That is where the disinfo comes in, misdirection, yadayada. I'm trying to write about this stuff so I'm attempting to put together all of the stories, find what is common to them, and come to some understanding so I can share the info as accurately as possible.

I rather think there is some form of reality to the tale of the Annunaki, while Lash thinks that they are a figment of the Archon's miseducation. I'll keep researching. Thanks for your response.

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)
I am right there with Icke and Wilde. There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot. If Stuie is seeing billions then he must be able to perceive the infected along with the infectors. What a mess to clean up.

Thanks for the link.

Stuie "the morph" Wilde

I really like him. Don't hear his name here often.

[1derer]

I think that it would be extremely unwise to take the word of anyone who claims that there is such thing as a reptilian as fact and to trust them on that when they themselves have seen them using a 'trance state' and that they can see reptillians and smell their rotting swamp smell as they pass!!!!

This is nothing but a personal idea, or at best, mere speculation.

If anyone believes this without seeing any first hand evidence or any scientific evidence then we are really doing ourselves a gross injustice

[Mark]

Posted by 1derer (here)
I think that it would be extremely unwise to take the word of anyone who claims that there is such thing as a reptilian as fact and to trust them on that when they themselves have seen them using a 'trance state' and that they can see reptillians and smell their rotting swamp smell as they pass!!!!

This is nothing but a personal idea, or at best, mere speculation.

If anyone believes this without seeing any first hand evidence or any scientific evidence then we are really doing ourselves a gross injustice

Thank you very much for your words of warning. We are all on a journey of discovery and seek to find the truth. The evidence for Reptilians is ancient. If you would like some resources, I would be glad to direct you to some, although they are as near as any bible, ancient mythological tale, pictures of historical sites and architecture, within our biology itself, or within the collective unconscious.

All we have to do is look for it.

[Calz]

And I’d like to add something, that he may or may not know, which I know, because I can see the reptilian humans when walking down the street; (they give off a signal that’s easy to spot—and a rotting swamp smell. I can’t go into it here in detail—it’s the Devil sweat). There are billions of reptile humans on earth.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2011/11/d...-the-reptiles/

Damn ... now *where* did I leave those handy sunglasses again???

[1derer]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)
I think that it would be extremely unwise to take the word of anyone who claims that there is such thing as a reptilian as fact and to trust them on that when they themselves have seen them using a 'trance state' and that they can see reptillians and smell their rotting swamp smell as they pass!!!!

This is nothing but a personal idea, or at best, mere speculation.

If anyone believes this without seeing any first hand evidence or any scientific evidence then we are really doing ourselves a gross injustice

Thank you very much for your words of warning. We are all on a journey of discovery and seek to find the truth. The evidence for Reptilians is ancient. If you would like some resources, I would be glad to direct you to some, although they are as near as any bible, ancient mythological tale, pictures of historical sites and architecture, within our biology itself, or within the collective unconscious.

All we have to do is look for it.

Rahkyt, there is evidence in acnient religions of the serpent, and a lizard looking guy, as seen in Mayan imagery and statues of Quetzacoahtl, but this is hardly evidence, now is it?

Many ancient tribes use animals to represent gods and have handed them down through Oral tradition of origins, but this does not mean there is a god of thunder, or an eagle man or cat man, this was just a way of them trying to put a context on what is seen in life.

What I am asking for is that we take a big step back, and review the ideas behind these concepts and ideas, but not write fantastical threads such as Icke is right about the reptilians...

HAs anyone ever seen a reptile face to face? or do they all live in other dimensions?

How do they go into a human? don't the reptilian forms have a problem merging with a human? I mean one looks like a walking dinosaur with a tail, and I am sure this would have logisitical effects in a human body.

Or is the human body like a zip up jump suit that the reppies step into and then zip up?

All these videos that show so called reppies are merely pixealtion effects or other digital degradation effects...

All we have are the 'stories of others, and nothing else!' Are we to allow our suspension of disbelief to become a truth?

[Calz]

Some have come forward with their stories of seeing various "species" without trance ... there are many such confessions in the Camelot library.

When does that just become a "story". Are we to disbelieve anything unless/until we see it with our own eyes? Are we to disbelieve everything the ancient cultures have tried to pass along for our benefit?

Healthy scepticism is great.

So is an open mind.

[Mark]

Posted by 1derer (here)
All we have are the 'stories of others, and nothing else!' Are we to allow our suspension of disbelief to become a truth?

LOL. I will not argue with you as it seems you have not done your due diligence and researched these issues at depth. Perhaps when you have we will have a discussion about it. I am quite well acquainted with the 'scientific method' and have done my research, it is incumbent upon you to do the same, in depth. Look past the surface, look deeper than the simple websites that speak of traditional archeology. Seek truth beyond the hype.

And good luck to you with it all!

[1derer]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Some have come forward with their stories of seeing various "species" without trance ... there are many such confessions in the Camelot library.

When does that just become a "story". Are we to disbelieve anything unless/until we see it with our own eyes? Are we to disbelieve everything the ancient cultures have tried to pass along for our benefit?

Healthy scepticism is great.

So is an open mind.

I am a healthy skeptic with an open mind, but I refuse to be duped into thinking that there is an evil race of reptiles that are trying to take over the world. If they were reptiles, then surely they would have eaten humans a long time ago? and why would they want to depopulate humans, if we are a food source?

Perhaps the only real reptiles are these?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TAtGDQkZzZ8

If there were reptiles, we would see more evidence of them on the earth, yet not a sausage. The ancients were not trying to warn us of reptilian aliens, that is simply ridiculous to suggest it, and how convenient that throughout the entire history of the human, there has NEVER been a reptile that has been caught, yet they are everywhere!

So then I cannot believe or accept that they exist u=other than the cute little things in that video, and as I said, if anyone actually believes this codswallop, then they are no better than the so called 'sheeple' whom they so regularly deride.

And if there were such a thing as reptiles, and they have taken over, then shouldn't man be a tad more respectful towards them, considering they have taken over every human being, can move in the physical or spiritual realms, are far more clever than man, and are allegedly running every government military and religious institution in the world and clearly cannot and will not be beaten in a scrap?

[Mike]

anyone else here check out alexa.com?

Project Avalon came in at a little over 45000. not too shabby.

hell, we've got Deepok Chopra beat. lol! i was just thinking what a humorously pathetic rallying cry that would be if the forum became desperate for members one day: Come To Project Avalon, a place that's collectively more popular than Deepok Chopra!

but in all seriousness, that score is nothing to sneeze at for a sort of fringe or 'alt' site. pretty cool.

sorry, and now we're

[1derer]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=APNmpz-pE94

So this young lady then is your so called example of a real reptillian?

How utterly preposterous.

[Cjay]

1derer, Have you ever seen air? By your definition, air must not exist.

[Mark]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Healthy scepticism is great.

So is an open mind.

Well, the evidence presented by eye-witnesses is not believable, according to many. People are too fallible. The UFOs, the Yeti, Reptilians, Greys, Fairies, all of that stuff that countless people over many millennia have described, written about, drawn, carved, means nothing, because we are smarter than they were, we are more objective than they are, we are more modern and educated than they are or were. Psychic capabilities are not real and people cannot do amazing things with their minds, view places at a distance or visit other dimensions, because people cannot do that, it cannot be replicated in a lab, therefore, it is not real.

This topic is so broad and all of it is interconnected. Holistic, synthetic thought is required in order to put the puzzle together, find the pieces strewn across multiple cultures, different languages, diverse geographic landscapes. It takes research. A LOT of it to find what has been deliberately obscured, hidden from the casual and even the focused eye and mind.

But laziness is unacceptable. Especially when knowing the truth or not is a life and death kind of affair.

[1derer]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)
All we have are the 'stories of others, and nothing else!' Are we to allow our suspension of disbelief to become a truth?

LOL. I will not argue with you as it seems you have not done your due diligence and researched these issues at depth. Perhaps when you have we will have a discussion about it. I am quite well acquainted with the 'scientific method' and have done my research, it is incumbent upon you to do the same, in depth. Look past the surface, look deeper than the simple websites that speak of traditional archeology. Seek truth beyond the hype.

And good luck to you with it all!

I have done sufficient due diligence, and need not discuss this with someone who has convinced themselves that fairies exist based on some scratchings upon a tablet or carvings on a statue, as being factual evidence of this fact.

Unless someone has hard evidence of a reptilian, we should not assume that such things exist, and until that point is cleared up, due diligence into the matter has been applied.

You claim to have done your research, yet with ZERO evidence have now decided upon the misguided notion that reptiles exist? Bravo!

[Mark]

Posted by 1derer (here)
You claim to have done your research, yet with ZERO evidence have now decided upon the misguided notion that reptiles exist? Bravo!

LOL You're funny. The thing is, I do not have to prove anything to you. It makes no difference to me what you know or what you do not know, as I do not know you nor do I have any vested interest in your knowledge or ignorance. You came to this thread as a debunker and with an attitude of challenge and derision, which means that you came here spoiling for a fight. And now you are utilizing belligerent language and deriding forum members in order to belittle us and paint yourself as better because you "do not believe in Reptilians".

There is no cause for me to interact with you at all, as your lack of respect and negativity is an energy drain, and does not help anyone in any way but you.

Again, I wish you the best of luck with your research! I'm sorry that I cannot help you with it any further.

[Carmody]

Posted by StephenW11UK (here)
Many of you will be familiar with Bill's interview with David Icke and Jordan Maxwell, where @ 1:46:25 into the discussion Jordan tells of a phone call he received from a representative of five 'christian families' who during a holiday together came into forced close contact with a reptilian being who, to put it mildly, frightened the s**t out of them - perhaps the most convincing reptilian contact story I've come across!

You may find the following short email worth considering as another piece of evidence pointing to the definite existence among us of reptilians:

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2011/11/d...-the-reptiles/

I used Google earth to find what could be the place they camped..AND the place the alleged ceremony took place at.

I used Google earth..and the vortex maps ley line KMZ file overlay.

I tried the suspect highways and the suspect directions and there was a point..where it could have actually been at. A place where 3 ley lines intersected at the bottom of a hill/mountain,and there was circular crescent shaped clearing of the described size..and a place to camp at the top of this given hill..which is just off a main highway artery that might be taken by family going north out of Nevada..into the mountains.

So yes, I found what might have been the actual location. Dead smack in the center of a 3 ley line intersect.

39 49'43.03"N 106 09'02.60"W

[Carmody]

oh crap.

one of the lines goes through the great salt lake, that central point of 'salts', like the 'salt beds' in the 'question of lithium' thread. the other end of it ends up at UVG 18, which is the Bahamas. another 'suspect' point.

(UVG points are the grid points on the ley line map or vortex map of the earth)

Another line goes through UVG 8, the suspected underground base in Alberta Canada..with the oil sands and the cattle mutilations and such, all covered in the lithium and the 'suspected underground entrances' thread.

the OTHER end of that line goes down to UVG 58, which is off the coast and tip of Argentina/Chile.

And we know who lives there.

The last of the three lines..goes to UVG 11, in the UK, in northern Scotland, and we know who lives there. 'Scottish rite', etc.

Well, I think that is all very interesting..........

I hate it when all the evidence fits, it tends to drag you down the rabbit hole, whether you want to go or not.

In the soul harvester thread, I posited that the ley lines are weakened dimensional crossing areas, ie, the blue ghost tunnel and now the 'mohawk' burial of the children by the church on that given line, how wynderer (forum member) had large amounts of issues with invading spirits and lived in the finger lakes area, which is a ley line nexus point. And on..and on...

So, I do not know where they camped but this is about as close a guess as we are going to get, methinks.