David Icke 2011

[1derer]

Posted by Jonathon (here)

I rejected Reptilians early on myself - until I allowed myself to bypass preconception and make sense of it, which now I have. When it is all said and done, however, it doesn't really matter what form they take. They are certainly there, if not by their own design then by invitation.

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

[Jonathon]

You see the colorant move, not the air. You are seeing evidence of air, not the air itself. I believe this makes the point some of us are trying to convey. I realize, as stated before, that this can be a difficult hurdle to cross.

If you really want to find value in a book, you have to 'get into it' - or buy into the 'truth' of it. Once you accept the reality of it (regardless), you are naturally inclined to consider it for what it is, not what you are. You cannot integrate and learn what you resist. If you aren't interested, that's OK too... but no sense beating around the bush about it. Move on to something that is more to your resonant level and maybe come back some other time. Your readiness for it doesn't have to be a point of friction with others' journey within it.

[Jonathon]

Posted by 1derer (here)

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

In a pop-up tent behind the White House.

[Mike]

when i'm in that unique space right before falling asleep, yet still slightly conscious, i'll sometimes see a succession of faces. they are all very detailed but otherwise meaningless to me, as i never recognize a familiar face. but what occasionally happens is - while this roladex of faces is flickering thru my mind - a face unlike any other i've ever seen, an inhuman face, appears. and it remains in my minds-eye much longer than the others.

i intuitively feel that it is reptilian in nature, but it's white in color. and by white, i mean chalk white - with red eyes. it doesn't look like any of the reptilians you might see on the various alt sites throughout the internet, but more like the creatures Credo Mutwa describes.

and the damn thing just sits there, lingering, staring. it's a bit unnerving, to be honest.

[Calz]

Posted by 1derer (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)

I rejected Reptilians early on myself - until I allowed myself to bypass preconception and make sense of it, which now I have. When it is all said and done, however, it doesn't really matter what form they take. They are certainly there, if not by their own design then by invitation.

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

How much of the light spectrum is visible to the (human) naked eye???

Put on some of the military grade night vision goggles (aka Ed Grimsley) and you see a whole bunch of "stuff" going on that you would not otherwise.

Correct?

[ponda]

1derer said:

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

Possibly in a higher dimension or different plane of existence/reality that overlaps our 3d reality.Or maybe they live in space ships or inner Earth.Then again they might just be inter-dimensional holographic projections from an Archontic entity that surrounds our solar system.

[DNA]

Posted by modwiz (here)
I am right there with Icke and Wilde. There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot. If Stuie is seeing billions then he must be able to perceive the infected along with the infectors. What a mess to clean up.

Thanks for the link.

I do not think they are the same folks.
The archons are reported to be embrionic so to speak. The Essenes were describing fetus looking beings, they basically are describing the greys from what I have read.


I'm pretty sure the truth, if it should ever come out, will blow our f%cking minds.
I'm just saying.
I think this thing is probably as complex and as full of differing players as you can expect.

When I think of the Archons, I think of the folks Willheim Reich talked about. Reich stated that in his Orgone experiments, he would witness UFO's appearing. Further more, Reich stated that these ETs were negative, and that they were here to syphone off the earth's orgone energy.

Ironically enough, I had come to the same conclusian about most abduction scenarios. And seeing Reich's take on this only further influenced my thinking here.
The abduction phenomenon had not even been an issue in Reich's time.
In the reports by folks who have had contact with the greys and regressed themselves to remember what was said, I have heard numerous instances of folks claiming that the greys referred to humans as containers. Containers of what? Well that is the question isn't it. I think humans are probably mined for various things, quite possibly plasma and other bodily fluids, but it seems to me, that humans are also mined for energy, or orgone as Reich calls it.

It seems that when asked as to the particulars of why the greys are doing what they are doing they tend to shake of the question with a strange statement. That they are in the employment of some one else. It seems that they are in a capacity of service to another race. Is it the reptillians? Jim Sparks seemed to think so in his book "The Keepers", and the guys(Stewart Swerdlow,Preston Nichols) from the Montaulk project seemed to think there was a reptillian presence orchestrating those events.

[1derer]

Posted by Asyloth (here)
Ain't it strange that when you start talking about this subject you'll always find yourself beaten up by some people? When it goes about UFO's, shamanism, conspiracies and so on and so on, people can more or less see how it makes sense and deserves serious attention but when it comes to reptilians you always find people jumping up to the roof gazing with this "bull****" look.

I read your discussion Rahkyt and 1derer. I join 1derer when he says that maybe you shouldn't be a 100% sure of this stuff until you've seen hardcore evidence or a reptilian yourself. But I join Rahkyt on the fact that you came here with a very beligerent attitude and that you don't seem to me to be open minded about this.
Maybe Rahkyt shouldn't be so sure of something he isn't really sure of, making himself open to deception.
Maybe 1derer shouldn't be so sure of something he isn't really sure of either, you claim Rahkyt shouldn't believe something without hardcore evidence but you yourself believe the complete opposite with even less evidence, making yourself close minded about it.

I personally take the reptilian stuff seriously, I think it makes sense and above it all, Icke has been so right about more or less everything that I tend to wonder why he wouldn't be right on this one, yet I leave it open to all possibilies, meaning that reptilians may exist, or not, I don't know for sure.

Come come Asyloth, a beligerent attitude? I see no reason to fight over something that lacks such credibility yet everyone thinks exists!

I'm sorry if in this thread people cannot handle it if someone disagrees with something, nor can I help it that people are accepting another's words as the biblical truth without a smidgen of any circumstantial evidence whatsoever and then comforting each other as they huddle around a fire looking at shadows in a cave.

To attack someone and accuse them of being challenging, or debunking or whatever uneccesary reptilian reponses of fear were presented is not what one should expect in a thread of so called open minds, nor is a condescending manner required just becuase no evidence is forthcoming.

All I want to do is question the basis of the belief that people think reppies exist, because what I find incredulous, is that the basis of their belief is ancient imagery or videos with cats eyes which to me do not in any way whatsoever account for reppy existence.

I think you have the best attitude to this, which I agree with that reppies may or may not exist, and that we cannot know for sure.

I mean do you know the number of people who believe the Queen of England is a reptile - including Icke? Is it deemed beligerent to question this?

[Mark]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i intuitively feel that it is reptilian in nature, but it's white in color. and by white, i mean chalk white - with red eyes. it doesn't look like any of the reptilians you might see on the various alt sites throughout the internet, but more like the creatures Credo Mutwa describes.

and the damn thing just sits there, lingering, staring. it's a bit unnerving, to be honest.

How about this one right here?

[Calz]

Posted by Jonathon (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

In a pop-up tent behind the White House.

I love it

[1derer]

Posted by ponda (here)

1derer said:

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

Possibly in a higher dimension or different plane of existence/reality that overlaps our 3d reality.Or maybe they live in space ships or inner Earth.Then again they might just be inter-dimensional holographic projections from an Archontic entity that surrounds our solar system.

So they are not physical at all? This is why I question when ppl say that reppies are real, as every video on the net shows reppie eyes right?

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Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

In a pop-up tent behind the White House.

I love it


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Hahaha I knew it!, I thought they had a zipper jumpsuit of a human into which they enter!

Just one thing... How do they get the tail in there?

[Mark]

LOL let's get straight to the point:

[modwiz]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
I am right there with Icke and Wilde. There is a concept called Archons that I work into this mix, that is they are the same lot. If Stuie is seeing billions then he must be able to perceive the infected along with the infectors. What a mess to clean up.

Thanks for the link.

I do not think they are the same folks.
The archons are reported to be embrionic so to speak. The Essenes were describing fetus looking beings, they basically are describing the greys from what I have read.


I'm pretty sure the truth, if it should ever come out, will blow our f%cking minds.
I'm just saying.
I think this thing is probably as complex and as full of differing players as you can expect.

When I think of the Archons, I think of the folks Willheim Reich talked about. Reich stated that in his Orgone experiments, he would witness UFO's appearing. Further more, Reich stated that these ETs were negative, and that they were here to syphone off the earth's orgone energy.

Ironically enough, I had come to the same conclusian about most abduction scenarios. And seeing Reich's take on this only further influenced my thinking here.
The abduction phenomenon had not even been an issue in Reich's time.
In the reports by folks who have had contact with the greys and regressed themselves to remember what was said, I have heard numerous instances of folks claiming that the greys referred to humans as containers. Containers of what? Well that is the question isn't it. I think humans are probably mined for various things, quite possibly plasma and other bodily fluids, but it seems to me, that humans are also mined for energy, or orgone as Reich calls it.

It seems that when asked as to the particulars of why the greys are doing what they are doing they tend to shake of the question with a strange statement. That they are in the employment of some one else. It seems that they are in a capacity of service to another race. Is it the reptillians? Jim Sparks seemed to think so in his book "The Keepers", and the guys(Stewart Swerdlow,Preston Nichols) from the Montaulk project seemed to think there was a reptillian presence orchestrating those events.

I can imagine the greys being described as fetus looking with their oversized heads and small bodies. Just a thought, one of many in the mix I throw the Archons into. My word 'MIX' is very operative and as strong as it is subtle. This mix held, as I have stated, as something written to a hard drive for editing or deletion. I seldom put all of my weight on one foot in a stance.

Do I look like a freakin' egret to you?

[Mike]

i respect where you're coming from here 1derer, and speaking just for myself, i really appreciate your presence in this thread. it provides balance.

i should state that i do not dogmatically believe reptilians exist. that would be a little foolish. it's more of a hunch and the influence of some resonating material picked up here and there.

but i've experienced enough crazy sh!t to always keep an open mind, even if it's open just a crack.

[1derer]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)

I rejected Reptilians early on myself - until I allowed myself to bypass preconception and make sense of it, which now I have. When it is all said and done, however, it doesn't really matter what form they take. They are certainly there, if not by their own design then by invitation.

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

How much of the light spectrum is visible to the (human) naked eye???

Put on some of the military grade night vision goggles (aka Ed Grimsley) and you see a whole bunch of "stuff" going on that you would not otherwise.

Correct?

Not sure if that is correct, or else anyone with military grade night vision goggles have never ever reported seeing a reppy.

[161803398]

Going into a trance state isn't all that weird. Anyone can do it. Just stay awake instead of going to sleep and you will be in that mid point. People are in and out of altered states all day. I really can't disbelieve or believe what anyone says they have seen (although I do tend to be skeptical of reptilians) because I've seen and experienced many many strange things in my life. However, the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen is the transformation of the United States since 2001. In fact, its so unbelievable...well, I think I might actually start believing David Icke.

[1derer]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
LOL let's get straight to the point:

Hahah funny stuff right there! I liked your other image of a reppy and his reppy babe, I suppose they would have to be standing upright if they existed, like the vecilorapters right? Do you think they have a tail or do they go the way of dogs with a stub?

[Calz]

Posted by 1derer (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 1derer (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)

I rejected Reptilians early on myself - until I allowed myself to bypass preconception and make sense of it, which now I have. When it is all said and done, however, it doesn't really matter what form they take. They are certainly there, if not by their own design then by invitation.

So where do they live then if they are here? You seem to have rejected them before and then made a comment that they certainly are here, so did you have a personal encounter with one or did you read about it?

If people are so confident they are here, where do they live?

How much of the light spectrum is visible to the (human) naked eye???

Put on some of the military grade night vision goggles (aka Ed Grimsley) and you see a whole bunch of "stuff" going on that you would not otherwise.

Correct?

Not sure if that is correct, or else anyone with military grade night vision goggles have never ever reported seeing a reppy.

I didn't suggest you could see "reptiles" with them ... I was using that as an example of viewing beyond the 2 or 3%.

Are you denying night vision goggles (or infrared telescopes) show more than that which is available to the naked human eye???

[ponda]

1derer said:

So they are not physical at all? This is why I question when ppl say that reppies are real, as every video on the net shows reppie eyes right?

Well it might depend on what 'physical' is.They might not be physical in 3d but are physical in their own reality.

I find the eye changes on some of the utube vids very interesting.Either people are going to a lot of trouble to fake them or there might be more to it.Anything is possible

[1derer]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i respect where you're coming from here 1derer, and speaking just for myself, i really appreciate your presence in this thread. it provides balance.

i should state that i do not dogmatically believe reptilians exist. that would be a little foolish. it's more of a hunch and the influence of some resonating material picked up here and there.

but i've experienced enough crazy sh!t to always keep an open mind, even if it's open just a crack.

If I were to surmise that they did live, then I would not be thinking they are in another dimesion, I would perceive them to be just like us, in the physical, though perhaps with psychic skills beyond our capabilities...

That would leave one thing...where would they live? And I beleive this would be underground, deep in cave systems like a race known as the deros.