The usa is now officially a war zone--we have been sold out!!!!!

[jjjones]

hello my friends! the disgusting garbage that is raising its head in the u.s. and around the world is a well thought out orchestrated plan to pit nation against nation and people against each other whether in another country or ones own country. ALL of the CORRUPT leaders world wide are in bed together with the top of the pyramid puppeteers. the insane greedy control freaks are playing monopoly and mind games with the "sheople" & are deliberately trying to get ORDER/CONTROL out of CHAOS they are creating. we the people of our earth home are angry at each other, when in reality the "puppet master/masters" are using each and everyone of us as their weapons to create a situation in order that they have so called "reason" to call for martial law & impound us. i believe that 99% of the people world wide are good and beautiful souls and have been deliberately mislead, misguided, misinformed and been fed lie after lie. Even the text books that we use aren't telling the complete and updated truth in history, math, physics, science, economics, political science & medicine. we the people of the world don't need to blame and argue with each other, we need to unite and listen to each other. the people of the world AREN'T responsible for the horrendous actions & decisions of their "bedfellow" puppet greed controlling bankster leaders and government officials make. yes we all make the mistake of blaming and taking our anger out on the people of other nations because all of us are frustrated. when it comes down to it we all want the same things, peace, justice, freedom, no b.s. concocted wars, family, friends and to help others etc. i wish that all of the people in the world soon awaken from their trance and become aware of the misguidance in our world. Cicero said "Any man can make a mistake; only a fool keeps making the same one." President Thomas Jefferson said "I Prefer dangerous Freedom over peaceful Slavery." i appreciate everybody's response, insight and wisdom given in this thread. thank you! namaste, peace and love universally

[Etherios]

Well i will have to agree with Guaxini on this. Everywhere in the planet there are sheeple and people that actually believe govs are there to help them .... or even dont care what happens to anyone else if it doesnt effect them. BUT for the USA people ... good or bad ... your armies are killing ALOT of people.

So what Guaxini was trying to explain is that the rest of us are shocked at how the USA people (the majority ... i hope noone from this forum) actually only care about this new "LAW" only because it effects them also. I am sure a big portion of the USA public will accept this as a proper law and needed one. But i am almost sure a larger portion if not all would not have bothered if it was for everyone else but the USA citizens.

This is the big shock for me and i think Guaxini also. "You" (the avalonian USA people) should be the first to see this and condem it. We blame TPTB about how they think they are better / smarter / wiser than the rest of humanity but we see the same attitude from the USA public (not all ofc) ... and this creates a big negative effect on the rest of us.

this new law just makes "official" what the rest of the planet has been under for many many years at the hands of US/NATO armies. If anyone disagrees with this then i am sorry.


My true wish is for people to really really really stop thinking about their nationality and start thinking about their humanity. USA/Greek/Porto/German/Iraqi/Libyan/etc etc etc we are all humans and we are all under attack by the PTB. When will we start to see this kind of attitude in this forums ... i will be very very happy. Till then ill just keep my mouth shut when ever these kind of topics appear.

p.s. i dont care if USA citizens are offended by this ... cause i only see fellow humans/Avalonians. If you see your self as USA citizen first then :-P

To all that dont know/care about the rest of the planet besides their house/country:

Ignorance is a Bliss ... but not an EXCUSE!!!!

[Vitalux]

I hope the good people of the USA have the brains to take to the streets, riot, go completely ballistic....go postal on their political representatives and take their anger to the streets in a total display of civil disobedience ....until the Dictators in charge of their land, .....give into the will of the people and stop this madness of terror and war.

What will it take ....before Americans figure out that the fox is in charge of the chicken house?

[Cartomancer]

Here's how they always win. They get us factionalized into small groups of people that disagree. It's happening right here right now in this thread. Pointing fingers at people of a certain nationality is what they want you to do. That way we will argue and not discuss solutions. This is counter productive and feeds the machine in a very bad way. Your enemy is the one making and selling the weapons and manipulating the money. These people have moved from country to country through history where ever it is conveinient to them. They have generational length plans that the average joe anywhere on the earth just does not understand. I have been to other countries and see abject ignorance every bit as bad as the worst example you can see in the USA.

Just because the USA is the one currently being used and discarded should not make them any more horrible than the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, French, Dutch, English, Chinese, Japanese, and English and yes let's not forget the Portuguese and Spanish. All imperial powers that are currently abusing my country. They have got you thinking in the miniscule paradigm of only the present. You need to pick up a history book and start thinking terms of hundreds of years because this is what the enemy does.

This is what the Romans did in all of their major cities and still survives in Siena, Italy in the form of the Palio horse race. They have the entire province of Siena more consumed and broken into factions with this once a year horse race than the important issues of their lives. In a way this is what is happening in this thread right here right now. Pointing fingers and accusations towards one nationality is bad and feeds right into what they want you to think and do. You are helping the enemy by pointing fingers.

[Etherios]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
Here's how they always win. They get us factionalized into small groups of people that disagree. It's happening right here right now in this thread. Pointing fingers at people of a certain nationality is what they want you to do. That way we will argue and not discuss solutions. This is counter productive and feeds the machine in a very bad way. Your enemy is the one making and selling the weapons and manipulating the money. These people have moved from country to country through history where ever it is conveinient to them. They have generational length plans that the average joe anywhere on the earth just does not understand. I have been to other countries and see abject ignorance every bit as bad as the worst example you can see in the USA.

Just because the USA is the one currently being used and discarded should not make them any more horrible than the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, French, Dutch, English, Chinese, Japanese, and English and yes let's not forget the Portuguese and Spanish. All imperial powers that are currently abusing my country. They have got you thinking in the miniscule paradigm of only the present. You need to pick up a history book and start thinking terms of hundreds of years because this is what the enemy does.

This is what the Romans did in all of their major cities and still survives in Siena, Italy in the form of the Palio horse race. They have the entire province of Siena more consumed and broken into factions with this once a year horse race than the important issues of their lives. In a way this is what is happening in this thread right here right now. Pointing fingers and accusations towards one nationality is bad and feeds right into what they want you to think and do. You are helping the enemy by pointing fingers.

The problem isnt them ... its the American attitude of superiority ... its the "USA and the rest of the planet" way of thinking. I am not saying the people are responsible for the crimes. But they are responsible for their way of thinking right? this isnt personal what so ever ... but i dont think Avalonians are like the majority of the American people (same as Greeks etc).

[Vitalux]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Just because the USA is the one currently being used and discarded should not make them any more horrible than the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, French, Dutch, English, Chinese, Japanese, and English and yes let's not forget the Portuguese and Spanish.

When I see a country, looting, pillaging, raping and kicking in the teeth of helpless victims I find it amusing that you dismiss it so easily. USA appear as the ring leader....then I would assume that the good citizens of that country should stand in violent opposition to the policy that is apparent as their now dictators are now enforcing.

What is it going to take for you to wake up.....take some responsibility.. grow a backbone and be part of the solution to stop this madness of your country.
What is it going to take for you to understand that the fox is in charge of the hen house.

[Cartomancer]

I think what you are pointing out is happening in every country. Who is it that is letting the bankers take over Greece? There must be Greek people who are taking part in this? Is it the American people? Do they approve of it? By and large the answer is no. It seems no matter how much the Greek people disagree this Juggernaut keeps rolling. Italy etc. They have been planning this since the late nineteenth century. They have generational plans that come to fruition every generation. This one involves trashing the United States and destroying what it was supposed to be.

We are all being used by the City of London and the imperial powers of Europe. Nothing has changed since the seventeenth century. Just because you can point to some videos on youtube of ignorant Americans does not mean they are at fault.

[Cartomancer]

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Just because the USA is the one currently being used and discarded should not make them any more horrible than the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, French, Dutch, English, Chinese, Japanese, and English and yes let's not forget the Portuguese and Spanish.

When I see a country, looting, pillaging, raping and kicking in the teeth of helpless victims I find it amusing that you dismiss it so easily. USA appear as the ring leader....then I would assume that the good citizens of that country should stand in violent opposition to the policy that is not apparent as their now dictators are now enforcing.

What is it going to take for you to wake up.....take some responsibility.. grow a backbone and be part of the solution to stop this madness of your country.
What is it going to take for you to understand that the fox is in charge of the hen house.

And Canada is not part of the coalition forces? Are you violently opposing your government? Does the Queen have the power to dissolve your parliment? Yes. And you let this happen. All's you people want to do is point fingers. Where ever Rome goes the Legionaries go. Did it ever matter to the Imperial powers what the people think? If we had a referendum in the USA right now to end all of the wars you would see an overwhelming majority vote to end all of the hostilities. Does this stop the wars? No.

There are other forces here that go way beyond any national pride. Wake up gang.

[161803398]

They do know what Americans want. They just dont want to give it AND they think they are going to be eaten or roasted or hung from the nearest tree (guilt) and want to protect themselves.

[Vitalux]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

And Canada is not part of the coalition forces?
Are you violently opposing your government?
Does the Queen have the power to dissolve your parliment?
Yes. And you let this happen.
All's you people want to do is point fingers. Where ever Rome goes the Legionaries go. Did it ever matter to the Imperial powers what the people think? If we had a referendum in the USA right now to end all of the wars you would see an overwhelming majority vote to end all of the hostilities. Does this stop the wars? No.

There are other forces here that go way beyond any national pride. Wake up gang.

I attend many protests for antiwar
I am an advocate against government corruption and the NWO
I have enjoyed more than once sitting in a jail cell as a result of being arrested at political protest in attempts to stop war crimes by Canada.
I take public stands to demonstrate that I do not agree with war.

I am an info warrior and spread information to others.
I will not kill another human or join in war for the profit of banks
I volunteer my time to help out at soup kitchens as well as volunteer my time to help homeless people.
I donate money to other countries to help ease of hunger and suffering of others.

I don't eat meat.
I do NOT support our troops!
I would think that I am a greater part of the solution rather than the problem.

[Vitalux]

Do you Americans as well as the others actually understand the severity of this new law?
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qPsCxzKsqQY

Why are not people screaming from their roof tops?



Please do not turn a blind eye on this one....

[crested-duck]

Thanks again for your responses and I would like to add again to this thread now ! I personally am ashamed of my corrupt govt. and all the useless authority figures : military,police,religious,etc. I grew up in a society where if you do'nt cheat you cannot compete. Everywhere you look everything is corrupted by TPTB. I'm a rare bird that has been ostracized for speaking the truth as I see it since childhood as a military brat. I realised at early age most all authority figures were full of **** and lying to me whenever I questioned their self proclaimed authority and who gave them that authority. Most all US people fear our govt. and police ,and know the game is rigged, and they will lose. They shut up and walk quietly because they are afraid to say anything and stand up for themselves. My honorable discharge is a useless piece of paper and my ticket to FEMA prison now. Those of you that want a peaceful solution and are'nt willing to fight and stand up for yourselves will be easy targets for TPTB to control. We all have to make a personal choice: man-up or cower and accept a beating. Just think for a minute how if the slaves had guns- slavery never would have happened. Do you all want to live as slaves or fight back to remain free to live as each sees fit to live their own way??? We can all hope for the best outcome, but you better prepare yourself for the worst imaginable outcome in the very near future. Thank you all for allowing me to vent here on PA!!

[Etherios]

Well the only way for any of us to see if our fellow man really has woken up or care about what is happening in the world is at the voting / rallies etc. So far in Greece not even 50% is taking part in the rallies but more than 70% is actively going on strike against the austerity (not the real problems i know). In the next elections we will see if we have matured as a country or not (if there are elections ... ).

About the USA people ... well OWS has some thousands ... and i believe the people that are against these rallies are more than the OWS people. If you guys have any other info plz share it with us. From alex jones interviews i saw a 30% of the people actually saying that its a good thing to have army in the streets o.O

anyway time will tell ...