Ron Paul (2010-2011)

[Unified Serenity]

Great video on RP. Ron Paul's message in Iowa is very strong.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=abl0xxmt6oI

[baddbob]

I just heard an interesing trend about Ron Paul he seems to have more support fron the internet than the mass media. I like that. Fox excused him from a media debate says he hasnt got the 10% support https://youtube.com/watch?v=JId_k...eature=related Here is another great video https://youtube.com/watch?v=9wDYt...eature=related

[norman]

You folks over there in America have GOT to get Ron Paul on the Rep' ticket. When they stage 'ww3' 6 weeks before the November poll, Ron Paul will be the only one with a chance of beating a war president.

The country will polarise into pro war and anti war. The anti war crowd will be massive and they'll need a candidate to back right up to the poll. Any other Republican candidate will just look like an apologist for the pro war administration.

Ron Paul or bust.

[alienHunter]

Ron Paul is incoherent. It makes absolutely no sense for someone to demonstrate a fear of an entity (government) that has at the very least an ostensible responsibility to the everyday man and yet, be willing to advocate the corporation be allowed to its own devices. The everyday smack us in the face reality that we experience has amply demonstrated that corporations will rape us, strip our bones and leave us to dry out in the desert even more readily than the evil, Repubtilian government.

I'm surely missing something, how can a dichotomy of such magnitude be reconciled?

[Kindred]

See my post on "Some millionaires..." https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...952#post376952

I remain cautious but very hopeful.

In Unity and Peace

[ghostrider]

Ron Paul always has a different take on everything , while the liberal republican establishment ALL say the same talking points. If you want someone with a different approach to fixing the problems, RP is your man. I like the approach he takes on foriegn countries and nation building, let Iran take care of Iran, Iraq take care of Iraq, korea take care of Korea, The U. S. should only be concerned with the U.S. till we get out of the red, we can't even help ourselves much less anyone else. Say bye bye to the nanny state, lets exercise some personal responsibility for a change. Government is the problem, not the solution. Nothing government does works efficiently. it's always broken, too expensive, and filled with coruption and lies from the mainstream media.

[risveglio]

Why do you trust government? We have more power with the average corporation. There would be no Apple if we do not buy their products. What influence do we have on Government?

It seems to me that the most dangerous corporations are the ones that get the most help from government.

Please read Harry Browne's 7 Principles of Government.
http://harrybrowne.org/articles/Prin...Government.htm

[Cartomancer]

They finally did a feature on Ron Paul last night on CBS news. At the end of the interview of course they spoke to a woman who said she supported him but was afraid it would be a "wasted vote." The night before the news announcer mentioned Newt Ginrich and "the next nearest contender" never mentioning Paul. Bogus.

[baddbob]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Why do you trust government? We have more power with the average corporation. There would be no Apple if we do not buy their products. What influence do we have on Government?

It seems to me that the most dangerous corporations are the ones that get the most help from government.

Please read Harry Browne's 7 Principles of Government.
http://harrybrowne.org/articles/Prin...Government.htm

If you dont belive in something you'll fall for anything

[alienHunter]

Posted by baddbob (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Why do you trust government? We have more power with the average corporation. There would be no Apple if we do not buy their products. What influence do we have on Government?

It seems to me that the most dangerous corporations are the ones that get the most help from government.

Please read Harry Browne's 7 Principles of Government.
http://harrybrowne.org/articles/Prin...Government.htm

If you dont belive in something you'll fall for anything

Why do we need Ron Paul to do something (govern) that seems obvious to Harry Browne that we can do for ourselves...starting without him or anybody else. In fact, I think I will take custodianship of the world because I am benevolent while many others who would be King are not.

[risveglio]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by baddbob (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Why do you trust government? We have more power with the average corporation. There would be no Apple if we do not buy their products. What influence do we have on Government?

It seems to me that the most dangerous corporations are the ones that get the most help from government.

Please read Harry Browne's 7 Principles of Government.
http://harrybrowne.org/articles/Prin...Government.htm

If you dont belive in something you'll fall for anything

Why do we need Ron Paul to do something (govern) that seems obvious to Harry Browne that we can do for ourselves...starting without him or anybody else. In fact, I think I will take custodianship of the world because I am benevolent while many others who would be King are not.

Well I think it is obvious we are going to have an election and there will be a president. Yes, Ron Paul, will not save us but hopefully he will loosen the chains a little. I don't see any other option. I can understand why someone would want to stay home and not partake into the system at all though. But there seems to be a systematic fear of Ron Paul. When it comes to those that support the R-wing of the Big Government Party, they insist anyone but Obama, but when you ask even if that is Ron Paul, they push for Donald Trump to run.

[alienHunter]

For the general awareness:

One of the ongoing methods that black projects (who owns those?) use to suppress scientific breakthroughs is a mandate that all 'questionable' patent requests must be denied and forwarded to the proper authorities...it was in effect, that is, until very recently when the Obama administration overhauled the patent process to facilitate an easier, more transparent, and less restrictive mechanism. Did anyone recognize that change and further did anyone recognize the significance of it.

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Hi Risveglio, I appreciate that and respect your statement...

you've hit a fundamental reality...but the question STILL remains, who will loosen the chains.

[modwiz]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
For the general awareness:

One of the ongoing methods that black projects (who owns those?) use to suppress scientific breakthroughs is a mandate that all 'questionable' patent requests must be denied and forwarded to the proper authorities...it was in effect, that is, until very recently when the Obama administration overhauled the patent process to facilitate an easier, more transparent, and less restrictive mechanism. Did anyone recognize that change and further did anyone recognize the significance of it.

Not yet. I will be looking for the fruits of that facilitation. I will breathe regularly though.

[risveglio]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
For the general awareness:

One of the ongoing methods that black projects (who owns those?) use to suppress scientific breakthroughs is a mandate that all 'questionable' patent requests must be denied and forwarded to the proper authorities...it was in effect, that is, until very recently when the Obama administration overhauled the patent process to facilitate an easier, more transparent, and less restrictive mechanism. Did anyone recognize that change and further did anyone recognize the significance of it.

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Hi Risveglio, I appreciate that and respect your statement...

you've hit a fundamental reality...but the question STILL remains, who will loosen the chains.

The patent law, really? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...atent_law.html

I think we can see Obama is not going to change the system. http://www.humblelibertarian.com/201...a-is-just.html

[alienHunter]

The humble libertarian...I don't buy it...the game is not over as yet...

"It's certainly a good thing that the need for patent reform has been recognized; there's little debate about that. But what got signed into law this time just doesn't come close to doing enough. Let's hope the push continues for a more sane and balanced system that doesn't reward the monoliths and trolls or impede the little guys quite so much."

This article doesn't directly address the issue of 'questionable' patents, but does it strike you as a move in the wrong direction? Who else has even tried in the face of the nebulous opposition. Would Ron Paul...not likely because in his view corporations are harmless people.

[risveglio]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
The humble libertarian...I don't buy it...the game is not over as yet...

Patriot Act, Wars, Bernanke, Geithner, Support for Monsanto? What are we still waiting to see?

[alienHunter]

a stable economy

[risveglio]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
The humble libertarian...I don't buy it...the game is not over as yet...

"It's certainly a good thing that the need for patent reform has been recognized; there's little debate about that. But what got signed into law this time just doesn't come close to doing enough. Let's hope the push continues for a more sane and balanced system that doesn't reward the monoliths and trolls or impede the little guys quite so much."

This article doesn't directly address the issue of 'questionable' patents, but does it strike you as a move in the wrong direction? Who else has even tried in the face of the nebulous opposition. Would Ron Paul...not likely because in his view corporations are harmless people.

We are miles apart if you think this is one of the critical issues today. I would rather like to return to a time when I could travel without being treated like a criminal and where my tax dollars are not used to blow up innocent civilians because there is a chance some guy somewhere in the country might some day do something bad.

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Posted by alienHunter (here)
a stable economy

Stable? Really? You think the economy is stable?

[Angushar]

Go ron paul!!!

[alienHunter]

Stable? Really? You think the economy is stable? of course not...that's why we are waiting. We're not that far apart, I'm with you. Obviously that is critical to what is good and bad in our society. It's dangerous to directly confront the power in this country as they can destroy at will the remaining vestiges of civilization that we retain. Not to suggest that the patent process is a surreptitious back door to implement change (even if it is) but squelched science has the potential to transform society from the bottom up rather than the relatively effete method of changing from the top down. We've tried that for generations.