Spiritual encounters of all kind - war for souls

[Initiate]

Hello Beren and Friends. It's been a long time since I posted on project Avalon. I have been traveling the inner road and learning who I am and exploring how I am relates to thoughts that become action in this World and it's connection to the Spiritual World. All I can say is that it has been intense. It is one thing to hear about it and another thing to experience it.

In your initial post you mention the war. If you have a sense of humour but would also like to learn of the tactics that are employed by the dark ones in the spiritual world I would highly recommend "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis (Lion the witch and the wardrobe). Here is a link to the reading of the book by John Cleese. The Screwtape Letters

Enjoy.

[Beren]

Posted by Initiate (here)
Hello Beren and Friends. It's been a long time since I posted on project Avalon. I have been traveling the inner road and learning who I am and exploring how I am relates to thoughts that become action in this World and it's connection to the Spiritual World. All I can say is that it has been intense. It is one thing to hear about it and another thing to experience it.

In your initial post you mention the war. If you have a sense of humour but would also like to learn of the tactics that are employed by the dark ones in the spiritual world I would highly recommend "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis (Lion the witch and the wardrobe). Here is a link to the reading of the book by John Cleese. The Screwtape Letters

Enjoy.

Initiate, friend, I will look up this link tomorrow or very soon, thanks.
War for souls... war is being led from ancient time. Not in a form we are used to but in all forms.
All came from Father, all souls.
In some point some souls chose that they are sole deciders of good and bad ,which is questionable enough. Also they wish to impose on others by force of what to do ,think ,feel.
That is breaching of free will.
Others refused that acts and from then on we are at war.

Now a lot of experiences came from that war ,a lot of learning. Process is still going on.
Until God decides to stop it once and for all.
Being omnipotent and just -God - he knows what is best for us -his children.

[Beren]

Recently a thought came . A thought of a need to learn Creator`s languages.
In order to hear him and understand him.

He speaks every day but we do not listen or we do not know how or what to listen.
This lack of knowledge is being exploited by certain entities to impose on us their view of realities.

[greybeard]

I find that God talks to me through synchronism Beren.
I pray and if there is a genuine need rather than want, then perhaps a person will appear and the need is meet.
If its advice I need then a suggestion is made by a friend perhaps, If I ignore that and I do to test it, then it will come from some one else and some one else till I get it.
Another way is that the same challenge will surface repeatedly in my life situation till I try a different way of handling it. therefore I try to learn from my mistakes.

Regards Chris

[Anchor]

Posted by Initiate (here)
If you have a sense of humour but would also like to learn of the tactics that are employed by the dark ones in the spiritual world I would highly recommend "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis (Lion the witch and the wardrobe). Here is a link to the reading of the book by John Cleese. The Screwtape Letters

I have been listening to these on my commute. They are very good. John Cleese does a superb job of reading this material. Thanks so much for this pointer!

John..

[Beren]

Posted by John (here)
I have been listening to these on my commute. They are very good. John Cleese does a superb job of reading this material. Thanks so much for this pointer!

John..

John,

would you choose to enlighten people ,the very people that throws rocks on you?

P.S.
this on a first glance does not have a thing with theme here but it may have :-)

[Wood]

Posted by Initiate (here)
Here is a link to the reading of the book by John Cleese. The Screwtape Letters

Thank you for that. I've found the book in pdf and I'm reading it. Just what I needed today

[Beren]

Posted by Initiate (here)
Hello Beren and Friends. It's been a long time since I posted on project Avalon. I have been traveling the inner road and learning who I am and exploring how I am relates to thoughts that become action in this World and it's connection to the Spiritual World. All I can say is that it has been intense. It is one thing to hear about it and another thing to experience it.

In your initial post you mention the war. If you have a sense of humour but would also like to learn of the tactics that are employed by the dark ones in the spiritual world I would highly recommend "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis (Lion the witch and the wardrobe). Here is a link to the reading of the book by John Cleese. The Screwtape Letters

Enjoy.

:-)
From the very high point of view it`s so fun to listen how they "plan" or "work" against people...
They are so poor in their misunderstandings of things...

But in reality we have to deal with them directly and in essence openly say "I do not believe a word you`re saying... leave me be "...

[Anchor]

Posted by Beren (here)
John,

would you choose to enlighten people ,the very people that throws rocks on you?

P.S.
this on a first glance does not have a thing with theme here but it may have :-)

Here to save me doing it ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters

Plot overview

The Screwtape Letters comprises thirty-one letters written by a senior demon named Screwtape to his nephew, a young demon named Wormwood. Screwtape's letters contain advice for how to turn Wormwood's "Patient", an ordinary man living in war-time England, toward "Our Father Below" (Devil / Satan) and away from "the Enemy" (God).

After the first letter, the Patient converts to Christianity, and Wormwood is given a severe rebuking and threatened with the "usual penalties" at the House of Correction for Incompetent Tempters. A striking contrast is formed between Wormwood and Screwtape during the rest of the book. Wormwood is depicted through Screwtape's letters as much closer to what conventional wisdom has said about demons, i.e., wanting to tempt his patient into extravagantly wicked and deplorable sins and constantly writing about the war that is going on for the latter half of the book. Screwtape, on the other hand, is not interested in getting the patient to commit anything spectacularly evil, saying that "the safest path to hell is the gradual one." He sees a demon's primary goal to befuddle, confuse, and eventually corrupt a person rather than to tempt.

Lewis's use of this "correspondence" is both varied and hard-hitting. With his own views on theology, Lewis covers areas as diverse as sex, love, pride, gluttony, and war. Lewis, an Oxford scholar himself, suggests in his work that even intellectuals are not impervious to the influence of such demons, especially in regards to being led towards placated acceptance of the "Historical Point of View".

In the last letter, it emerges that the Patient has been killed during an air raid (World War II having broken out between the fourth and fifth letters), and has gone to Heaven. Wormwood is punished for letting a soul 'slip through his fingers' by being handed over to the fate that would have awaited his patient had he been successful: the consumption of his spiritual essence by the other demons. Screwtape responds to his nephew's desperate final letter by assuring him that he may expect just as much assistance from his "increasingly and ravenously affectionate" uncle as Screwtape would expect from Wormwood were their situations reversed, paralleling a situation where Wormwood himself turned his uncle over to Satan for making a religiously positive remark that would offend him.

Or have I missed the point of your question?

[Beren]

Posted by John (here)




Or have I missed the point of your question?

You missed the point

Screwtape letters --- I read long time ago something similar but from Lav Nikolayevich Tolstoy...
I can not remember the name of the 30 page text but it was hilarious and got him out of the Russian orthodox church ...
It was about how devil held a meeting with demons and questioned them how they deceive the people... Needless to say how Tolstoy wrote many truths there and thus Church immediately threw him out ever since...

But I think he does not give a damn...


Point was if you imagine yourself being heavily attacked because you were enlightening the people , how would you react?
For example, you have a friend whom you wish good . And you try subtly for years to help to be the light and finally he reject that and accuse you of his worst enemy and tries to destroy every thing that you were building together for years... how would you react?

[greybeard]

Posted by Beren (here)
You missed the point

Screwtape letters --- I read long time ago something similar but from Lav Nikolayevich Tolstoy...
I can not remember the name of the 30 page text but it was hilarious and got him out of the Russian orthodox church ...
It was about how devil held a meeting with demons and questioned them how they deceive the people... Needless to say how Tolstoy wrote many truths there and thus Church immediately threw him out ever since...

But I think he does not give a damn...


Point was if you imagine yourself being heavily attacked because you were enlightening the people , how would you react?
For example, you have a friend whom you wish good . And you try subtly for years to help to be the light and finally he reject that and accuse you of his worst enemy and tries to destroy every thing that you were building together for years... how would you react?

There is a saying "Good riddance to bad rubbish" now I wouldn't go that far but everything happens for our own good, so its just time to forgive and move on.
We seem to be in a time of moving on in all kinds of relationships, Eckhart Tolle says "Relationships are not there at this present time to make you happy but to dissolve your ego."
Only the ego can take things personally and be hurt. Sadness and compassion are of a different thing. We can feel temporarily a little sad at the way things have turned out leading to acceptance, leading to compassion and forgiveness for the other.
If they knew better they would do better.
Love Chris

[Anchor]

Posted by Beren (here)
Point was if you imagine yourself being heavily attacked because you were enlightening the people , how would you react?
For example, you have a friend whom you wish good . And you try subtly for years to help to be the light and finally he reject that and accuse you of his worst enemy and tries to destroy every thing that you were building together for years... how would you react?

I see.

I would move on. Friendship in this reality is temporal, relationships come and go, usually to serve some purpose both for ourselves and the overal "plan"

[Beren]

Posted by John (here)
I see.

I would move on. Friendship in this reality is temporal, relationships come and go, usually to serve some purpose both for ourselves and the overal "plan"

This is very wise statement. :-)

I think I would do the same. In the past I did not understood whole concept, simply some things were missing from my peek whole into the universe...
Now the gaze in broader my friend.
:-)

Truly nothing comes by accident and I value your inputs ever since last September when I joined old Avalon.

Now , I have another question;
you face the heat from someone, whom you want to be in that moment?
Avenger?
The one who mourn?
God's son,
The one who forgives and fully loves?

[Beren]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Only the ego can take things personally and be hurt.
If they knew better they would do better.
Love Chris

Then our job is to help them to know better.

[greybeard]

Posted by Beren (here)
Then our job is to help them to know better.

If only it was that easy Beren. Think I posted something on the ego thread recently that covers it.
What would I do?
In difficult situations I ask myself. What would Jesus do?
I think there was only one recorded incident where He expressed "Righteous anger"
He saw the situation as almost taking the Lords name in vain or at least His word
It wasn't personal.
We all act according to our spiritual vibration and it is not easy to raise that.
Man rarely learns by gentle reminders.
Regards Chris

[Beren]

Chris,
it`s never easy because of free will.
But during the process the one who helps also learns or remembers many good things.
Surely God`s ways are magnificent !

[Beren]

It all sums in very few words or sentences.
We are called to become sons & daughters of God.
To be as God.
Christ and Father are one and we are invited to be one with them.

All in all only Father knows what will happen and what choices the souls will take.
Who ever choose light will reap all what light sows.
Who ever choose darkness will reap what darkness sows.

I choose light.

[Anchor]

Posted by Beren (here)
Now , I have another question;
you face the heat from someone, whom you want to be in that moment?
Avenger?
The one who mourn?
God's son,
The one who forgives and fully loves?

What I am and what I want are two different things. I am glad you asked what I want

I want to be the last one on your list.

John..

[Beren]

Posted by John (here)
What I am and what I want are two different things. I am glad you asked what I want

I want to be the last one on your list.

John..

Then welcome brother :-)

[Initiate]

Hi Guys,

For several months now I have been on the inner path and through various dreams and encounters ended up with A spiritual teacher that I communicate with via skype. Many times now after a skype session with this teacher I have had an unusual encounter. My teacher claims to have no involvement in this encounter and only mentioned that it "Sounds Cosmic". this is what happens:

My Computer started to drive itself. various windows I have open switch to the foreground. The start menu pops up and hides. If I open microsoft Word then the following is typed into it (the case of the unseen hand):

message =
Mes.c = ch
;
Me.t=ti
Mes
;
Ter

It is definite that a message is being communicated but the meaning is uncertain. They seem like either chemical formula but If I google "Me.t=ti" it takes me to google books and a couple of passages in the bible. One is Moses last song before he died. The other is Pual's Second letter to the Corintians chapter 2 and 3. There is a link between this passages in that God's people were seen by Moses in prophesy to forgo their God and turn to worship demon's and idols. Then God would scatter them to the four winds. Then trials would be allowed on these Souls if they chose to return to God. Paul stated that strength would be given through Jesus Christ to go through these trials and that without Christ we could not get through these trials and they would be blinded to the truth. The Law's only purpose now is to show that we sin but through Christ these sins can be overcome.

If anyone has any other meaning to this message it would be much appreciated.