David Icke 2011

[Aetheric Traveler]

as just reading that the only thing that causes a positive response in DNA, is the emotion of love. This is found in David wilcock's new book, about page 165 or so. This was concerning scientifically rigorous tests. I'm not explaining myself perfectly here.

The fact that we are also amplifiers and transmitters of energies that we are not aware of. This is covered in the new book, as well.

Chris..greybeard.. speaks of a time when he was at a an ashram in India, IIRC. and the guru could and did manifest things like small animals or flowers, etc. flowers, right out of his mouth. The Guru flat out said that the people WILLED that energy to him, as a form of their belief in him.

Now consider my 'take' on all this. real..and not real.

Real enough to have to deal with, but real in what way?

Look again.[/QUOTE]

Examine the life of Satya Sai Baba and you will see an adept who could bilocate, manifest solid objects out of thin air, speak any language, ancient or modern, teleport himself to any part of the planet, heal any disease, know any person's thoughts and manipulate weather and terrain to name just a few.

Could these examples of life in our form be just the tip of the iceberg of what we are supposed to be doing so that understanding what people call the Reptiles means so little to us in terms of fear and everything to us in terms of conquering our own inner "base" instincts? Jesus the Christ did say, "And great things than these shall you do also", meaning that we are capable of manifesting what people call miracles. Sai Baba said simply that they were just part of his nature, the same nature we would be when we came to embody pure love.

Is it possible that Reptilians are simply another challenge to our Cosmic Spirits within to embody Pure Love and No Fear?

I wonder.

AT

[Mark]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
My beliefs evolve on a monthly and weekly basis as of late.

I think this is true of many of us to an extent. A product of where and when we are.

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
That presents a strange possibility that the Reptilians (as a part of our Monad and we theirs) are indeed us. If that is true, then, the Annunaki, the Reptilians, the other aspects of our Monad are waiting for us little humans to catch up in spiritual growth to meld into one fusion of higher being by integrating all the developed parts of the whole into something not possible separately.

Consider it sort of like taking out certain body parts and sending them to the cleaners and waiting for them to get back to you can run a race somewhere that requires all parts to be at the same level of Cosmic Clean.

I don't know anything about this idea of the Monad. When I was researching the Cassiopaean information Laura KJ said that she had spoken to individuals who remembered lifetimes where they were aliens. Since Past Present and Future all co-exist simultaneously I have no problems with the idea that we could have other aspects of self within other Beings. It is my understanding that the Oversoul dissipates into experience to draw such back into itself eventually. We are individual collectives within a larger collective within a larger collective, spanning from the lowest dimensional and density aggregates to the highest. From the perspective of Now, and who we are and our current needs, though, I like to keep it on a relateable level. For me, all the higher Oneness talk is generally unworkable for most in 3D until they get to a level where it can be actualized and truly conceptualized, but here and there it does serve as a good thought exercise. Fake it till you make it, I guess.

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
Could these examples of life in our form be just the tip of the iceberg of what we are supposed to be doing so that understanding what people call the Reptiles means so little to us in terms of fear and everything to us in terms of conquering our own inner "base" instincts? Jesus the Christ did say, "And great things than these shall you do also", meaning that we are capable of manifesting what people call miracles. Sai Baba said simply that they were just part of his nature, the same nature we would be when we came to embody pure love.

Is it possible that Reptilians are simply another challenge to our Cosmic Spirits within to embody Pure Love and No Fear?

Sounds about right to me, as all is a challenge for us to overcome limitation and achieve what lies beyond.

[Carmody]

When I was researching the Cassiopaean information Laura KJ said that she had spoken to individuals who remembered lifetimes where they were aliens.

My second last life was that of a southern Louisiana French man who ended up fighting in the civil war of the US. Instead of taking time off to 'work' on dealing with that experience, I went into a form of exercising that one out..as an alien on a alien planet. One where I was still in knowing to a degree and kept trying to get my fellow slaves to look to the skies, to understand that there was something further than the end of the day where the beatings and work would cease. for a day. A very dark place and planet. I was the original force of one on that planet, and I've no idea if it took hold.

I came into this one, right away, once again, with no breaks and suffered a massive hangover of the daily beatings from the last, that came right into this one, right at birth. I can identify with wanting freedom, slavery, and daily beatings until dead, yes. I did that for about 40 years, and died. I never broke, I fought for them the whole time. Oddly enough, or not...the two dogs I had in this life, were the same. They had not one ounce of give and could not be trained, in any form at all. Both had wolf stock. But perfectly connected -on the psychic level. So, not only alien memories, but the immediate last life. Oh yes, one human one about 2000 years back.

We each have these sort of memories. They can be recalled. I'm as white European as I could possibly get in this life, but, yeah, bro, down with the man!

[Mark]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I came into this one, right away, once again, with no breaks and suffered a massive hangover of the daily beatings from the last, that came right into this one, right at birth. I can identify with wanting freedom, slavery, and daily beatings until dead, yes. I did that for about 40 years, and died. I never broke, I fought for them the whole time. Oddly enough, or not...the two dogs I had in this life, were the same. They had not one ounce of give and could not be trained, in any form at all. Both had wolf stock. But perfectly connected -on the psychic level. So, not only alien memories, but the immediate last life. Oh yes, one human one about 2000 years back.

We each have these sort of memories. They can be recalled. I'm as white European as I could possibly get in this life, but, yeah, bro, down with the man!

LOL The man is going down. An understanding of reality that extends past the daily grind and the trials and tribulations of a particular incarnation is mandatory in order to be able to encompass the compassion necessary to progress spiritually. Different lifetimes can certainly do it, when you have experiences that are directly oppositional to the previous ones, linearly speaking. Also, within each lifetime I think our genetic cellular databases give us access to greater soul groups that we also have to work out during this particular lifetime as well that may even be more important to what is happening here and now. You being of "white European" stock and my being of mixed-breed African, European and Asian (native American) stock. I think recalling such lifetimes is a good method for those who are able. I don't know how. How do you do it?

[Carmody]

i did the first two spontaneously, at the age of 13. the Louisiana french one and then the alien one. No meditation at the time, but before I discovered my ego-body's favorite method of maintaining control...narcotics. specifically that of the cannabinoids. This blocks rem and disallows forward motion in growth, which occurs in the rest stage of the body, in normal development. the third, which was at the age of 37 or so, took place in explorations of deep mediation, on where even the murmurings of the brain-stem had been silenced and I had stepped into the sleepless state.

I found out later that going into the sleepless state is inevitable, if one does kundalini exercises at night.... and Chakra cleansing and opening of the pathways via kundalini flow through the entire channel.

I went pure vegetarian, blessed my food and water, and developed a method creating a more true form of nano silver in a 'charged' way, which I consumed daily (the thread is in the alternative medicine area). I was meditating a good 4 hours per day, minimum..and used self hypnosis to remember every detail of my life that was difficult and embarrassing, right to the point of birth.

I did a slow regression to birth, taking weeks at a time to process each difficult moment to remove the mental complexes that had built around each one. i re-lived the moments and times, in their entirety and would not leave each one until I could re-live them with no untoward emotions.

for a while there, I was in one space, of about a month, like that of a two week old child, same emotional states and timing between. No capacity to control, no capacity to remember names, the whole works. A real and complete regression. Difficult I tell you, as I was working sales at the time. Imagine doing that, and not being able to hold yourself emotionally together for more than 5-10 minutes at a time. Like a two week old kid. I spiraled myself down, but i took over a year, to do it.

This, as I did the silencing of the ego mind,and the kundalini. it was excruciatingly difficult, due to the stresses and I was also working out daily and was in stunningly good health. so, I ended up with tremendous kundalini potential, and a mind totally clear, no bad vibrations, stocked up on silver based monatomics in the body..and dead silent mind and brainstem. Almost no ego function.

I could do things like wave an arm, and press a thought to a large flock of birds in a field, at a distance..and cause them to all burst from the ground simultaneously. some trickery was involved in things like that, for I was projecting being inside a violent death of one of them, as a shock wave at them..and they would all get the call to disperse as one of them had died suddenly from predator attack. Not so nice a thing to do, but fairly harmless, as long as it did not extend beyond that, for something like the one exercise or test. I had to be careful, as I was so whacked with energy that I could cause problems for all around me, with too much manifested but 'Verklempt' energy. at one point I was interested in the pyramid's function and i started looking at it, and that is when the 2000 year old life came to me, in hyper real memory fashion.

In essence, the high level of energy and clarity, combined with the meditation brought the life memory to me. I was at the point that I could have moved into doing other things, like moving with no need for vehicles and such, as the tulpas, temporal dream sequences of the future and such, and astral projection were extreme in level.

I went to pre-birth, remembered my birth and remembered and relived being in the womb. I went to the time where the soul meets the body for the first time and joins with it. THAT is when the whole thing burst into the dimensional-reality state.

I had one foot in each world...and I had to make a decision. I made a choice to come back fully to the now..and reintegrate into normal spaces again.

I knew where freedom from all was, but I decided that I was not done yet.

to not go into paradise, but to go back into the desert...and find more people to bring to that oasis.

[Mark]

Posted by Carmody (here)
In essence, the high level of energy and clarity, combined with the meditation brought the life memory to me. I was at the point that I could have moved into doing other things, like moving with no need for vehicles and such, as the tulpas, temporal dream sequences of the future and such, and astral projection were extreme in level.

I went to pre-birth, remembered my birth and remembered and relived being in the womb. I went to the time where the soul meets the body for the first time and joins with it. THAT is when the whole thing burst into the dimensional-reality state.

I had one foot in each world...and I had to make a decision. I made a choice to come back fully to the now..and reintegrate into normal spaces again.

I knew where freedom from all was, but I decided that I was not done yet.

to not go into paradise, but to go back into the desert...and find more people to bring to that oasis.

Amazing recounting, thank you for sharing one potential pathway with us. I've approximated much of that but never all at the same time. LOL The lifetime recapitulation seems to be the key aspect in reconciling an incarnation and being able to move forward. It seems to have been a large and difficult part of your own journey. Would you state that knowing your previous incarnations is necessary in order to achieve a higher state of consciousness? Or is being able to work with its remnants in one's current life enough?

So you chose the Bodhisattva route. I thank you, on behalf of ALL sentient BEings!

[000]

Posted by Carmody (here)
We each have these sort of memories. They can be recalled.

Yes :D

Where my lives are concerned I have had only one other human form life in this world, in linear time immediately previous to this one. That life crept back up in May~ of this year and I had to contend with it for a while to sort some things out and cauterize some open lines which were still open, and it was all planned by me for that to happen to catalyze some things in this life and close some loops caused by that life. It now exists on my entire life-grid (past-parallel present-future all at once) solely as a record of time slices to be referenced from for use in this life.

I was no one important, just a typical rebellious punk, the peak of my life around the 1970s~. I died young, most likely in my late 20s or 30s. There was heroin use which may or may not have been the cause of death. I have heard that birth marks can sometimes be residual physical echoes from past lives, and I happen to have one which would fit a knife wound on my chest just below my rib cage on the left side of my body. Logically it could have punctured my left lung, *maybe* one of the chambers of my heart. That is yet to be investigated though and currently is not very important to me so I don't bother to look into it.

Prior to this world, my life existed (still exists, this life is only a physical projection where part of a hypersoul extends into a physical body until its job is complete) in a universe other than this one. One 'which this universe emerged from' as far as I have understood, but not remembered enough to confirm, so I leave it as extra-universal. I have no physical form there as one would think of as physical in the 3-dimensional sense. It is a form primarily of light with a curiously still humanoid form, which can be altered at will, and has 'wing like' forms extending from it, as well as a kind of veil like dress which covers the entire energy-body but still showing the 'face' a little bit. When others remote view me as a being in that form it always seems to be female, and even though I am currently in a male body, my behavior is very 'feminine'. My partner is human female but behaves more masculine often, so it's an interesting blend to say the least.

The works of Dolores Cannon are worth investigating for those new to this or curious about it for themselves. I can say for sure that reading her work will make you feel a lot less lonely, which is often the case when you haven't been here for long and your body doubts a lot of what visions you are being shown of yourself. I've been 'fortunate' enough to end up meeting friends/family/'colleagues' I've known for a while who are also alive in bodies here at the moment. It makes for a rich and interesting experience... meeting each other in a more dense level of The Dream

Some people think it's a special thing but it's really not because so very many others from all over are here doing what they signed up for to help this world, a lot of them quietly, and I prefer to do it quietly too, through music and visuals. Quietude has strategic advantages which in this life for me have been optimal. I'm definitely not the only one doing the same kind of work. Two components in my case, during physical waking linear time I create, and when I leave my body behind at night, it's all about harassing the bad guys, fairly brutally at sometimes, and I wonder how I'm even allowed to do that, but it seems to happen regularly. I never really know who the specific people are, I just know immediately in those states exactly what I have to do with them and it ends up being done, and then at some point I'll see something in the news when I'm physically awake which seems to relate. It's a bit trippy sometimes so I try not to dig too deep unless I have to. Remote Viewing and Influencing have been common in my life since birth although for a long while I did not know that is what was happening, it was just some thing that happened and I thought everyone else had at the same intensity. Much easier to do work out of body though. Energy flows much easier in those realms.

Where parasitic entities are concerned, yes, there are some, and I have experienced a couple and 'dealt' with them very quickly and efficiently and moved on from them. They can only do what they do if one gives them consent to do so. If you say no, there is nothing they can do about it, you're all far stronger than they are and could easily 'take them out'. I've never really encountered reptile or amphibious beings before. The bad ones I've encountered were always in abstract forms or were taking on human avatars. I don't see as many as I used to though. They have learned to stay away a bit

Recently there was an encounter with some 'elite' types who were finely dressed and at a meeting in a very refined looking building. An older female with short/medium white hair was being their lookout and when I entered the room she said something like 'how did you get in here?' or 'what are you doing here?' and I just floated towards the table where the finely dressed men were at (they looked like they were right out of the late 1800s) and I did what was to be done. It wasn't visually pleasant and was very fast and I don't really like to think about it but they were dealt with. Few days after I noticed a sort of 'surge' in the whole Euro financial thing with all kinds of treaty related stuff failing miserably. It's most certainly not me alone though. There are thousands! And all of humanity is having an impact just by rejecting them outright, just by conscious choice. So slowly but surely, the toxicity is being removed from this world by everyone who chooses for it to be removed It grows exponentially stronger the more people choose for it to happen.

Everyone's timelines as a lifegrid is like an individual private universe, and when all the lifegrids are out of sync, it's like television static and there is no clear decision because everyone is all over the place (this is the state of being that parasites take advantage of), but when lifegrids of everyone begin to synchronize with each other, clearer choices emerge, and good things begin to be created and happen. Intention is so powerful when everyone does it together!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7ZJJO9wXWcY

We have them surrounded They are not boiling the frog of the people, the people are boiling the frog that is them We're popping their malfunctioning lifegrids out of existence gradually! Just by focusing coherently on their removal from this world, we inject our will into their consciousnesses and their lifegrids fray and burst. That's how the anti-toxin method of remote influencing works. The other half is the world we are creating to replace the mess they have left behind with, which is the opposite of bursting a lifegrid.

Also, a thought I would like to tack on... consider 'negative entities' for a moment, that they potentially could be 'training daemons' of sorts, and partially creations of beings who need to learn to let go of fear. Evolution sometimes is a result of stress, learning to know what it is and to let go of it, and create non-stress. Just something for consideration.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
Examine the life of Satya Sai Baba and you will see an adept who could bilocate, manifest solid objects out of thin air, speak any language, ancient or modern, teleport himself to any part of the planet, heal any disease, know any person's thoughts and manipulate weather and terrain to name just a few.

Jesus the Christ did say, "And great things than these shall you do also", meaning that we are capable of manifesting what people call miracles. Sai Baba said simply that they were just part of his nature, the same nature we would be when we came to embody pure love.

a sorcerer summons spirits and recive skills from spirits

a saint summons Spirit and recive skills from Spirit


where spirit is finite Spirit is God


an Avatar of God is Spirit of God in a body and so replete with the Will of God

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
Hi Jeanette, most who study this topic would agree with me. We have a number of bodies. I haven't studied theory nearly as much as many people, and I know there is a lot of information out there that might give you a much more in-depth answer than mine. My understanding is based on personal experience and knowing.

Here is a partial list of the other bodies we have
1) the physical body
2) the emotional body
3) the mental body
4) the astral body
5) the etheric body
6) the causal body
I'm pretty sure there are more, but these are the ones I am conscious of.

The body I use most often to tell me about the world (other than my physical body with its 5 senses) is the etheric one. It has eyes and can both see and experience ether, prana, energy and so on.

What you probably want to know is how to activate your conscious awareness of the signals these bodies are giving you. There are so many paths to awareness. Mine has been through meditation and spending many hours in nature. I have taken the time to write about one of the most powerful meditation exercises I am aware of here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...a-how-to-guide

You may like to try the above technique or you may be led to other paths. Follow your own inner guidance.

Dawn

I think this is a very important point, and it's my conjecture that through meditaiton, many of us strengthen and power up different aspects of our totallity, as such this is why many of us have so many differing stories to tell in connection with these events. We all have atrophied vehicles for perception, and the activation of what specific "perception" or sensory organ, will depend on the individual and the discipline they use.

I'm sure the different bodies you speak of have their own specific areas for perception when activated.

[Star Tsar]

GOTTA love big Dave he don't half work hard!

[Carmody]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
I came into this one, right away, once again, with no breaks and suffered a massive hangover of the daily beatings from the last, that came right into this one, right at birth. I can identify with wanting freedom, slavery, and daily beatings until dead, yes. I did that for about 40 years, and died. I never broke, I fought for them the whole time. Oddly enough, or not...the two dogs I had in this life, were the same. They had not one ounce of give and could not be trained, in any form at all. Both had wolf stock. But perfectly connected -on the psychic level. So, not only alien memories, but the immediate last life. Oh yes, one human one about 2000 years back.

We each have these sort of memories. They can be recalled. I'm as white European as I could possibly get in this life, but, yeah, bro, down with the man!

LOL The man is going down. An understanding of reality that extends past the daily grind and the trials and tribulations of a particular incarnation is mandatory in order to be able to encompass the compassion necessary to progress spiritually. Different lifetimes can certainly do it, when you have experiences that are directly oppositional to the previous ones, linearly speaking. Also, within each lifetime I think our genetic cellular databases give us access to greater soul groups that we also have to work out during this particular lifetime as well that may even be more important to what is happening here and now. You being of "white European" stock and my being of mixed-breed African, European and Asian (native American) stock. I think recalling such lifetimes is a good method for those who are able. I don't know how. How do you do it?

As soon as I saw those post images from the young lady in china, of the old age home, my body and psyche just freaked.

adrenalin surge, world wobbles, balls curl up, legs fail, the whole 9 yards.

On that alien world, we lived in basically the equivalent of cement dormitories. I was separated eventually, as I spoke to too many of them about freedom and greater things, things that given world had no knowledge of. I spoke to and with them in the non working time. I was influencing them, so I was separated. then specially selected for further abuse. They needed to set an example and I needed to set one too. Which was: 'no surrender, at any price'.

We essentially had the equivalent of a loin cloth for clothes, not much more than that. Sleeping on cold cement, for forty years and then dying from it all, on that cold cement....

So cold. Never warm, dying cold, on cold cement.

To me, safety lies in..... simply ...being warm.

[Mark]

Posted by Carmody (here)
As soon as I saw those post images from the young lady in china, of the old age home, my body and psyche just freaked.

adrenalin surge, world wobbles, balls curl up, legs fail, the whole 9 yards.

On that alien world, we lived in basically the equivalent of cement dormitories. I was separated eventually, as I spoke to too many of them about freedom and greater things, things that given world had no knowledge of. I spoke to and with them in the non working time. I was influencing them, so I was separated. then specially selected for further abuse. They needed to set an example and I needed to set one too. Which was: 'no surrender, at any price'.

We essentially had the equivalent of a loin cloth for clothes, not much more than that. Sleeping on cold cement, for forty years and then dying from it all, on that cold cement....

So cold. Never warm, dying cold, on cold cement.

To me, safety lies in..... simply ...being warm.

I understand. I've been there in this lifetime. LOL Not to that extreme, but that is the blessing of my choice of incarnation, I think, the family, the situation, the life path that I was born into alongside my kin group, ethnicity and greater soul grouping. I looked at those images and saw my family. Saw the greater human condition in underdeveloped countries and the underdeveloped people and part of the developed countries. All of this is a function of this discussion, the potentiality of greater realities that support and guide our current reality. Larger truths masked as mundane reality. The poor versus the rich, the haves versus the have nots. Those who control versus those who are controlled.

[another bob]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
So is achieving enlightenment according to the Buddhist tradition. potentially the same level of Being as a Toltec Shaman/Warrior/Sorcerer?

Greetings, Friend!

In answer to your inquiry, I would say no, not at all.

Take Milarepa for example. He started out as a "Brujo", a magician/shaman/warrior skilled in energy manipulation, but had to undergo a massive revolution in vibrational life and consciousness in order to approach Buddhist enlightenment.

Of course, there are many schools within Buddhism, and each one has a somewhat different take on what actually constitutes "enlightenment". Moreover, their descriptions will again vary from the view of Advaita regarding liberation, which in turn varies from, say, that of Kashmir Shaivism. I''m including an interesting link at the bottom discussing the differences between Buddhist concepts of Nirvana with that of Moksha in Advaita.

To address this all in the context of the thread topic, it's interesting that, in Tibetan Buddhist lore, Shakyamuni was assisted by two reptilian beings called Nagas in achieving his final awakening. Apparently they shared some potent mantras with him that pushed him through to daylight. These Nagas are very high-level beings, rumored to have been around long before humans walked the earth.

I did happen to run into one very wise and intriguing fellow a few years back who claimed to have encountered one of these multidimensional Naga beings in Mt. Shasta, who proceeded to share a trove of esoteric knowledge with the guy. From what I could tell, it sounded rather legitimate.

Lately I've come to the realization that no human has ever attained true enlightenment, and that the great masters in history actually came in "with their lights on." Indeed, enlightenment is our actual state in our Light Being form, which we temporarily set aside in order to have this human experience. Some of us might experience a taste of awakening while in human form, but if sustained, it would literally vaporize us, since our physical apparatus is not built to handle that level of luminous intensity in 3-D, nor is that why we come "here" in the first place.

Consequently, I'd now say that all seeking for enlightenment is a waste of our brief time here, although the elimination of "non-enlightened" qualities such as greed, hated, and ignorance, craving and aversion, will provide the necessary impetus to graduate from this rock and move "up".


http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-AN/26715.htm

[Mark]

Posted by another bob (here)
In answer to your inquiry, I would say no, not at all.

( ... )

Lately I've come to the realization that no human has ever attained true enlightenment, and that the great masters in history actually came in "with their lights on." Indeed, enlightenment is our actual state in our Light Being form, which we temporarily set aside in order to have this human experience. Some of us might experience a taste of awakening while in human form, but if sustained, it would literally vaporize us, since our physical apparatus is not built to handle that level of luminous intensity in 3-D, nor is that why we come "here" in the first place.

Consequently, I'd now say that all seeking for enlightenment is a waste of our brief time here, although the elimination of "non-enlightened" qualities such as greed, hated, and ignorance, craving and aversion, will provide the necessary impetus to graduate from this rock and move "up".

I really like that final statement of yours, it resonates, Also your point about the advanced souls getting here already geared to express their highest potentiality. Interesting information regarding the serpent-beings as well, those kinds of stories are rife in mythologies around the world, such folk being associated with the civilizing impetus as knowledge-bringers. 'When you say, "move up", where do you believe we are moving up to?

[Aetheric Traveler]

'When you say, "move up", where do you believe we are moving up to?

The next step for whatever that may be for any particular being, as we are all different. What may be the next step for me, might be quite different for 10,000 people who seem just like me, but are not, looking at it on a Cosmic Level of inner vibration.

[Carmody]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
In essence, the high level of energy and clarity, combined with the meditation brought the life memory to me. I was at the point that I could have moved into doing other things, like moving with no need for vehicles and such, as the tulpas, temporal dream sequences of the future and such, and astral projection were extreme in level.

I went to pre-birth, remembered my birth and remembered and relived being in the womb. I went to the time where the soul meets the body for the first time and joins with it. THAT is when the whole thing burst into the dimensional-reality state.

I had one foot in each world...and I had to make a decision. I made a choice to come back fully to the now..and reintegrate into normal spaces again.

I knew where freedom from all was, but I decided that I was not done yet.

to not go into paradise, but to go back into the desert...and find more people to bring to that oasis.

Amazing recounting, thank you for sharing one potential pathway with us. I've approximated much of that but never all at the same time. LOL The lifetime recapitulation seems to be the key aspect in reconciling an incarnation and being able to move forward. It seems to have been a large and difficult part of your own journey. Would you state that knowing your previous incarnations is necessary in order to achieve a higher state of consciousness? Or is being able to work with its remnants in one's current life enough?

So you chose the Bodhisattva route. I thank you, on behalf of ALL sentient BEings!

I think that dealing with the given life one is in, is enough to open the door. Just my direct experience. The self hypnotism is similar to what Micheal Newton does, but I did it on my own, cleansing my way down through my life. This, so I would be perfectly clear. Essentially, the damage carry over from the lack of clearing the prior life..was giving me tremendous grief. I had things buried down there from before the creation of conscious thought. The emotional core design..was shifted slightly. As stated, the damage was carried forward into manifestation in THIS life.

I had to find it and fix it, otherwise I was not willing to go on, period. Age and timing wise, an echo of the prior life, and the situations. It was going to get fixed, Or I was going to die in the attempt. I gave myself no other option. Basically, I had three lives to clear, all at the same time.

Louisiana French -civil war, alien slave as a result.... and this one, up until the age of 37. So yes, in essence, if one has cleansed themselves of the life they are living now, I see no problem in getting into direct contact with the source field energies, on some level.

I proved that, by clearing three at the same time, and surviving it. By myself.

Note to people: Stop that ego whining, it can be done. What is one lousy life clearing? Why... I did it with two lives tied behind my back! Up hill! Both ways! (ye old walking to school joke/routine)

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Posted by Carmody (here)
So cold. Never warm, dying cold, on cold cement.

To me, safety lies in..... simply ...being warm.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TPzU1Uz8ujw

Potent dreamers' song. Key line "Misery Inspires" [Full Lyrics]. That was what my heroin soaked first Earth-life was about.

Also notice in the video the heart carved into the tree stump, the dreamers' tree

[another bob]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
'When you say, "move up", where do you believe we are moving up to?

Greetings, Friend!

To your inquiry,

I'd briefly submit that, in the scale of the totality of universal manifestation, this particular motel where we currently hang our hat would be considered something akin to a Gulag in comparison to what's freely available to us in our native Light Beingness, a few levels up in awareness.

Once greed, envy, hatred, and delusion are seen through and discarded, we become fit for "bigger things", you might say, like undiluted access to all of our innate spiritual powers, including access to the knowledge of the universe, the ability to instantly manifest physical reality, multiple simultaneous levels of awareness, unconditional love, total recall, and much more.

Regardless of the metaphors (prison, kindergarten classroom, boot camp, nightmare, war zone, etc.), what it seems to come down to is a matter of restriction. Indeed, if we were talking about a place with even more restriction than we typically endure here during the course of our spiritual amnesia, we'd probably have to refer to the animal, hungry ghost, or hell realms (as colorfully portrayed in the Buddhist schemata of the 31 planes of existence, for example).


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...agga/loka.html

[Mark]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I think that dealing with the given life one is in, is enough to open the door. Just my direct experience. The self hypnotism is similar to what Micheal Newton does, but I did it on my own, cleansing my way down through my life. This, so I would be perfectly clear. Essentially, the damage carry over from the lack of clearing the prior life..was giving me tremendous grief. I had things buried down there from before the creation of conscious thought. The emotional core design..was shifted slightly. As stated, the damage was carried forward into manifestation in THIS life.

I had to find it and fix it, otherwise I was not willing to go on, period. Age and timing wise, an echo of the prior life, and the situations. It was going to get fixed, Or I was going to die in the attempt. I gave myself no other option. Basically, I had three lives to clear, all at the same time.

Louisiana French -civil war, alien slave as a result.... and this one, up until the age of 37. So yes, in essence, if one has cleansed themselves of the life they are living now, I see no problem in getting into direct contact with the source field energies, on some level.

I proved that, by clearing three at the same time, and surviving it. By myself.

Note to people: Stop that ego whining, it can be done. What is one lousy life clearing? Why... I did it with two lives tied behind my back! Up hill! Both ways! (ye old walking to school joke/routine)

Getting through the current life, I think, is often the kicker. Since it is the culmination karmically of the previous ones, it seems that all of the issues that were left over would cascade into lived experience currently. I'm sure, if that is so, it was quite helpful in determining exactly what issues that originated in each lifetime had to be addressed through your clearing. Also in regards to the present life, I think it is the ego-whining that you castigate that is the primary stop sign. And if the purpose of this thread and the others we have been shifting through is any indication, we may not be the only ones in our heads urging us to just wallow in our problems and remain slave to our desires. What if the control system includes karma and the chakras? Basically reincarnating is the same as recycling, to be used over and over again. So many layers to uncover, but only to reveal a truth startling in its simplicity.

[Carmody]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
'When you say, "move up", where do you believe we are moving up to?

Greetings, Friend!

To your inquiry,

I'd briefly submit that, in the scale of the totality of universal manifestation, this particular motel where we currently hang our hat would be considered something akin to a Gulag in comparison to what's freely available to us in our native Light Beingness, a few levels up in awareness.

Once greed, envy, hatred, and delusion are seen through and discarded, we become fit for "bigger things", you might say, like undiluted access to all of our innate spiritual powers, including access to the knowledge of the universe, the ability to instantly manifest physical reality, multiple simultaneous levels of awareness, unconditional love, total recall, and much more.

Regardless of the metaphors (prison, kindergarten classroom, boot camp, nightmare, war zone, etc.), what it seems to come down to is a matter of restriction. Indeed, if we were talking about a place with even more restriction than we typically endure here during the course of our spiritual amnesia, we'd probably have to refer to the animal, hungry ghost, or hell realms (as colorfully portrayed in the Buddhist schemata of the 31 planes of existence, for example).


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...agga/loka.html

It kinda feels like I'm stuck in a wide ranging bar fight that I somehow have to finish. The best happens when I simply give up and let it shine. When I drop the carrying of the load of the entire pantheon of various pressures.