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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Quote Posted by taliesin (here)
    Hi All,

    I have just been loking around to see what else I can come up with regrading the fake irishman.

    This clips contains alot of swearing to warn those of you who may be offended, if you don't like swearing please do not listen.

    I found this. Now obviously this person is having a strong go at DW but notice his accent, he starts off sounding like Alan Watts i.e. very english, then goes into South African that morphs slightly into Australian, and then rounds it off with a few good Scottish rolled Rs.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=--ML2...layer_embedded

    Also notice the content relative to the fake irishman's insistance on telling the truth. This man is accusing DW of being a liar.

    Can anyone identify who this man is - nothing is said about it on the youtube info


    Le gra agus beannachtai

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    Hi Taliesin the guy in that clip is Bernard Poolman from Desteni Universe a South African group who claim to channel Anu and the Anunnaki and have access to the dimensions, via a young girl called Sunette known as the portal. Poolman also talks like that about Eckart Tolle and all other new age guru's. They have been called a cult by many. Im open minded on the subject of Desteni at the moment but they debunk everyone, even Zeitgiest. Check them out, but be warned there's alot to sift through. I actually wonder who it is they are actually channeling and fear for Sunette.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Every so often I believe it worth remembering this forum is worldwide and although it is based on speaking the English language ... for many members English is not their native tongue ...


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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    And in terms of emotional reactiveness ,how much better is blubbering hysteria and energy sucking at the expense of someone elses distress? I'ts not really your situation but you are attempting to share in it by your emotional reactiveness. How is this your situation that you are driven to such exterme vehemence to those who used snark to remain distanced from it?

    Your mechanism is as self serving as those who claim he's wetting his pants. Two different beliefs, same core value. Opportunity knocked.

    But you like David have an opportunity to learn from this.

    You are being confronted with how you particpated in this drama which never really belonged to you in the first place.

    The dangers of self indentifying with someone other than yourself. You become what you rail against.

    Truly love, this is happening to David...not you.

    .

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    9eagle9 and other critics

    Using wordings like "Wetting one's pants" or call someone a liar and "faking crocodile tears" has nothing to do with being critical at all. It's sheer disdain and lack of empathy.
    I'm totally with 9eagle9 here. Not AGAINST anyone else, however. Learning situations divide those who have learnt a certain lesson from those who have yet to learn it...and given a bit more time both parties can join hands on the other side.
    I just posted something potentially irreverent on the Christopher Hitchins thread...apparently he just passed away. Although I doubt that his fans would attack me for it, anyone who is a fan of Christopher Hitchins would understand.
    Who knows where he got that throat cancer. Obviously smoking and years of self abusive living. But then again, anyone who wants him out of the way quickly might take that lifestyle into consideration when when orchestrating their plans.
    David Wilcock's death threat is a tactic to divide the alternative community. One day he will see it as such himself.
    He is a Pisces, hence very easy to attack subliminally. Not saying he doesn't need tons of loving support-he does- but as 9eagle9 said, they are after a whole bunch of caring, devoted fans here, with the aim to turn against one another.
    We can then decide if we want that path. We own our reactions, we own our emotions, we OWE it to ourselves to stay grounded in our reality.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Every so often I believe it worth remembering this forum is worldwide and although it is based on speaking the English language ... for many members English is not their native tongue ...


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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Yes there is nothing here that says, we 'have' to do something. We don't have to take the day off of work or have our own buttons pushed. Remain observant of what is being shown to us here, regardless of what is being told. Even the whole speculation as to who the pseudo Irishman is , is a mind trick. People are so anxious to have a label, a name slapped on him, an IDENTITY (the self identification thing) that they are entirely ignoring what he is expressing. It's like what is being said is somehow not authenticated unless some famous label is attached to it. Regardless he's showing a certain of wisdom regardless if he is authentic or not so people can't nail him down and start the sucking in process.

    Being a psychic doesn't make one omnipotent and immune. He got his bottons pushed and I emphathize with that but if he wants to be a spiritual leader is going to have to learn the mechanisms they will be using because. They push his buttons, the buttons of his fan base which is considerable is pushed too. People can't seem to separate asscessment of the situation from judgement of David. They can't separate the two. The people who use these tactics know this, that's why they use them.

    But he got his button's pushed and the more hysteria I see over this I'm seeing that David is not the only target here. A matter of time before the next round of fall out begins. I noticed on Facebook a group of psychics duking it out over David Wilcox simply because they happen to be psychics the same as him. Even though many have admitted that they know nothing of his work, all this conflicted is being created because someone criticized another psychic. Their self identify is so wrapped up in the whole process of beign a psychic that if one's situation is examined they feel as if their's may be too and it really has nothing to do with them. Paradoxically it now has everything to do with them.

    They've chosen to unify in way that does not serve a higher interest.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    9eagle9.....Mercury still being slow i just changed my mind......wondering who in which post has been "blubbering out hysteria" while questionning the contemptious wordings as i percieve it, language confusion or not? Perhaps you might make a compilation with the quotationmarks i still haven't mastered for me to ponder while i'm taking a vacation from Avalon to be with my family for Christmas.....

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    Quote Posted by transiten (here)
    9eagle9.....Mercury still being slow i just changed my mind......wondering who in which post has been "blubbering out hysteria" while questionning the contemptious wordings as i percieve it, language confusion or not? Perhaps you might make a compilation with the quotationmarks i still haven't mastered for me to ponder while i'm taking a vacation from Avalon to be with my family for Christmas.....
    David WILCOCK if i may.....another sign of disrespect...

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    Quote Posted by transiten (here)

    David WILCOCK if i may.....another sign of disrespect...

    Lol ... in this case I expect not having English as your native tongue works in your favor.



    9eagle9 wasn't being disrespectful.

    Lots and lots of people make that mistake spelling his name. Why? Who knows.

    Blame it on us lazy americans.


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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

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    "All there's left is Laughter" Enjoy the contribution of Jeanette, spread it out all over the place! And please Calz, do your job as usual!
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=1UuaOye9VyI

    excellent transiten.....


    back in the 1980s I was involved with the Peace Movement....there a group of us were, in a tipi, outside a nuclear military base...every so often someone would start singing the Laughing Policeman. We would all join in and crack up so bad for minutes on end. Laughing against the Bomb was soooooooooo funny. In a strange way more subversive than anything else...

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=hI1nPd7hezM


    we need some Laughing Yoga in this thread...





    I felt that the amusement 'Anonymous' provided on the Radio Show really helped.


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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Quote we need some Laughing Yoga in this thread...
    Yep ... needed a little break to shift the energy. All better now

    Carry on ...



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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Well,,,been reading through this long, long....uhhh, thread. Granted, I have only had bout 3 hr sleep in the past 30 or so.
    I think what I am going to do, is blog a short post on this wilcocks drama show. I'll do it tonight.
    Then I will delete the account here. Fourm posting is not for me.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Please stay, Duncan. Posting may not be your style, but your good energy and support here is invaluable.

    You are one of us. Please stay.

    Cheers and best regards,

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    This situation calls for a really stupid and futile gesture on someone's part. We're just the guys to do it.

    A motivational message to David Wilcock;


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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Duncan threads don't usually get as hectic as this and as Selene just said we really could do with your energy around here! Please think about it. Maybe you need to sleep on it.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Quote Posted by Duncan O'Finioan (here)
    Well,,,been reading through this long, long....uhhh, thread.
    Gee, I didn't, the size of this thread is so out of proportion, just checked the last comments a couple of times overall...

    Quote Posted by Duncan O'Finioan (here)
    Then I will delete the account here. Fourm posting is not for me.
    I can imagine that. Thanks for popping in anways and all the best

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    Quote Posted by Duncan O'Finioan (here)
    Well,,,been reading through this long, long....uhhh, thread. Granted, I have only had bout 3 hr sleep in the past 30 or so.
    I think what I am going to do, is blog a short post on this wilcocks drama show. I'll do it tonight.
    Then I will delete the account here. Fourm posting is not for me.
    Sorry to hear that.

    We were really looking forward to be able to interact with you.

    A number of people here like Wilcock to varying degrees (a number don't as this thread illustrates).

    I think most all are open minded enough to carefully listen to ... discern ... and see if your take on the situation adds to our "picture".

    Hope you reconsider but everyone has to call their own shots as you well know.

    Looking forward to your blog (and perhaps if you do decide to leave remember you can still visit without being a member and could respond to some posts here if you so choose on your later blog posts).



    Thanx for the great information you have shared.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    I'm kinda lost here...
    maybe a moderator could start a poll just to see how many members DO think that not only are David's feelings true, but also, how many people believe the story behind all of this, since that is imo, a HUGE story!!!

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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    My dear woman if I wanted to disrespect David, I can do a fair bit better in terms of snark than misspelling his last name.

    You are so anxious now to go on the defense you are seeing insults where none exist. .

    I'm attempting to point out here that David's fan base could be the thing that sinks him.

    You're quoted post from the' here and now thread' is what I'm what I'm referring to.

    You have buttons and they got pushed. This is button pushing . David I can understand his reaction, Yours I cannot . Did someone threaten your life?

    The whole point in this little psy ops here is to not only push David's buttons but to disrupt the lives of those who, predictably enough, have invested their self identity in them.

    Post poning your trip serves David how? Or does it serve you? If you are that affected by this situation, you risk becoming the posterchild of what the PTB hopes to achieve here. Those are hards words but I'm the observer here, not the instigator.

    "something happened to someone else and I'm so identified with it because of my previous programming and wounds I must react and sink in my self identity with whom the plight is actually occuring. "<<<<That is what is occuring. You are ignoring what your intuition is telling you. And its telling you quite a lot becasue this is the button that it has been pushed. What I'm saying is...You're not helping David by doing that. You're not helping yourself when your own 'brainwash' button has been pushed it should be telling you something.

    And I'm sorry that is hard but it is self serving. It's as self serving as those who seek to bounce points off of his plight with snark.

    If you cannot hold your space in this matter how do you hope to hold it for the person you insist you are supporting? And that's okay, wounded people are most suspectible to this sort of thing....But if one is not careful with it they became as those who take opporunity to directly diss David ...they are both self serving mechanisms.



    I quoted you from the here and now thread. This is by your own self admission. And this is what I'm observing because I've observed it so many times before. If you don't want it observed dont' put in the public eye and that goes for you and David both. It's part of the human condition they manipulate us with. And that is what I'm attempting to let you know. Not because I hate you and I'm cold and callous and brutal or because I hate David. Because it is HOW THEY CONTROL US.

    Time is 00.20 in Gothenburgh Sweden. I postponed my trip until Sunday because of what happened to David. This is all connected to the biggest trauma of my life when i lost 6 years after being brainwashed by the meditationguru who was going to "help" me. After breaking out of his viscious circle i had a psychosis and then several years of agony depression combined with apathy and endless sleep.
    Quote Posted by transiten (here)
    9eagle9.....Mercury still being slow i just changed my mind......wondering who in which post has been "blubbering out hysteria" while questionning the contemptious wordings as i percieve it, language confusion or not? Perhaps you might make a compilation with the quotationmarks i still haven't mastered for me to ponder while i'm taking a vacation from Avalon to be with my family for Christmas.....

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Quote Posted by transiten (here)
    9eagle9.....Mercury still being slow i just changed my mind......wondering who in which post has been "blubbering out hysteria" while questionning the contemptious wordings as i percieve it, language confusion or not? Perhaps you might make a compilation with the quotationmarks i still haven't mastered for me to ponder while i'm taking a vacation from Avalon to be with my family for Christmas.....
    David WILCOCK if i may.....another sign of disrespect...
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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    Um ... sorry ... no polls please.

    But thanks for your post and to Avalon

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    Quote Posted by Duncan O'Finioan (here)
    Well,,,been reading through this long, long....uhhh, thread. Granted, I have only had bout 3 hr sleep in the past 30 or so.
    I think what I am going to do, is blog a short post on this wilcocks drama show. I'll do it tonight.
    Then I will delete the account here. Fourm posting is not for me.
    We hope you stay ... wander in and out as you like ... we look forward to your post.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

    I want David to continue opening the minds and hearts of others and this whole situation has me very concerned about his ability to continue along that path. I should give a little background on myself since I'm new here. I've been a spiritual seeker since I was 13 but David Wilcock didn't appear in my reality until last year when I was actively searching for a larger, more encompassing cosmology to answer my questions. Through David website, I was lead to the Ra Material, AKA, The Law of One. I downloaded all the PDF's, converted them to Kindle format and I'm on my third reading of them now.

    I know David resonates with the Ra Material which states that STS entities will attempt to discredit positively oriented individuals by feeding them false data. I think this is what is happening. Yes, the lawsuit is real but I don't feel it will go anywhere or accomplish anything of significance except to lower the credibility of those promoting it. And yes, the message is one of hope, but if the whole situation turns out to be cr*p--the lawsuit is tossed and nothing changes, how many people are going to listen to David's hopeful messages in the future?

    I have a special place in my heart for David and, ocasionally, I will lower my standards and visit a site called GLP and, a couple of times, I've seen threads there which berate David and his ego and I've jumped in there to defend him. After all, if it wasn't for David and his ego, I would have never found the Ra Material. Ego serves a purpose.

    On the other hand, David has made statements that cause me to physically cringe. Many of us who are familiar with the Ra Material know that we are overdue for *something* to happen. After all, the 30 year "drop dead date" was hit last January. I think David might be so anxious to effect change and to be an active part of the change that he's attracting entities and individuals that will drag him down.

    As I said above, I want David to continue opening the minds and hearts of others. No matter what happens, I will be reading his site, buying his books, and, when I'm feeling brave or foolish, going to GLP and fighting for him.

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