Ron Paul (2010-2011)

[alienHunter]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by alienHunter (here)

The most valuable skill we have is to be able to read between the lines.

Any good magician will tell you it is also one of the most easiest ways to manipulate.

I'll remember that...I should add that I have always watched magicians VERY CLOSELY because I know what they're up to. As a child i started with thorough research into one of the greatest...Houdini. In fact, this is kind of a funny story...once in New Orleans on a New Years Eve, I got castigated by a performing magician. I was sitting in the front row and I was telling (out loud) a friend next to me...what the magician's misdirection tricks were during each act. The magick dude was very unhappy with me.

[bearcow]

ron paul needs to do well in the states that are not winner take all in terms of delegates. Focus on getting second place finishes in iowa and new Hampshire. don't invest any resources in south Carolina as that state is winner take all. play a rope a dope strategy at the beginning, stay alive, and hope that rommney and gingrich jockey back and forth between winning states, and don't pull away. The longer he can can stay in the race and be competitive, the better chance he has to be the last man standing at the end.

[Arrowwind]

I have not seen Ron Paul waver in his philisophy or political stance in 10 years. He does not flip flop. He does not lie. He makes his stance on constitutional principles.

Obama and bush has thwarted the constitution entering us into war that we should not have been in.
the lates being Lybia. subverting the US congress buy entering through the UN and nato. You wish the UN and nato to send our youth to war with only the say so of a president? This cuts out all of your representation in congress and senate.. in essence your voice though a democratically elected republic has been usurped from you.

Guess thats ok with you though? It was only the cause for the deaths of seveal hundred thousand innocents in Iraq as we entered into a war that was not approved for by congress... but I quess thats oK... and also its ok that several hundred thousand innocents died for the 3000 in 9/11 which the Iraq people had absolutley nothing to do with... and the again 5.000 of our military lost also to compensate for 3,000 to punish... this is insanity. this war based on fear of weapons of mass distruction that we The USA actually supplied to Sadamm Hussien! how hypocritical.. and now the same is about to happen with Iran. Mark my words. they will find a way to attack Iran..when Iran has done nothing of any scale. They have endeavored to protect their own nation, which obviously is not considered a worthy endeavor... protecting thier interest in the water ways they use... etc. I do not see Iran coming near our shores as we go near theirs with huge war ships... we have been perpetually the antagonizers in the middle east.

You guys are giving away your freedom and your rights thought the patriot act and constitutionally illegal acts... and constantly crap is loaded into legislation to further limit our freedom. Ron Paul would not let that happen.

Ron Paul also beleives in not purchasing things that you cannot pay for.. makes me think you guys must all be in debt and that debt is ok.
Ron Paul also beleives in fair capitolism and trade. He beleives in letting markets work, not controlling them. He would not allow the greed that is occuring in the medical system that we currently have.. One answer... force insurance agencies to pay for medical tourism. allowing the patient to have the physician of his choice.. that would bring prices down right fast in the USA. That would move doctors from Mercedes Benz to Taurus pretty dam quick and hospitals would become much more modest in archetecture in time. No doctor deserves to take away your home and retirement and live like a freaking king and then also kill you in the process... 50% of foreclosures in the USA are not from bad loans but from foreclosures based on medical needs.

You can get the same quality of care in many areas of Mexico in a one million dollar hospital as you get in a 100 million dollar hospital in the USA.

Yes, Paul is a visionary. He has the mental intelligence to "see" exactly what will happen when we do not follow our constitution. He has the vision to see the implications and ramifactions of the Federal Reserve, he predicted Fanny mae and Freddy Mac forclosures back in 1991. He told us the problems of deregulating the banks long before their greed cleaned out the accounts of pension funds and 401K across America.

You can keep voting or flipfloppers and liers if you want. You will get what you get and it wont be good.
Ron Paul also sees that the military industrial complex is the basis for our economy and in order for our economy to keep pumping away war must ensue. This must stop. We will never have peace if war promotes financial profit. Will will always have industry like Haliburton and a$$holes like Dick Cheney to feed the fires and fill the corporate tills.

Ron Paul is against Corporate powers. He would restore the power to the people. He would eliminate corporate lobby. He would not permit the corporate ability to fund campaigns. That would bring it once again right down to the people... not corporations who have their lawyers working day and night to keep power in their hands and not yours...'

You who fear terrorist of the middle east really need to do some historical research to understand why there is terrorism in the middle east. Most of the problem comes from Israel moving people off of their lands back in the 50 's and the undending support of the annilation of palestianin people by the USA though the hands of Israli people... Zionists.


In my mind its quite simple. A degree of Isonlationism will help to heal our nation as we rebuild from the inside out. If terrorists strike then we take them out. Not before hand and we take out those who really did the deed... not those we just happen to not like and would like to control the oil of their lands as well as their economic and agricultural systems.... yes, agricultural systems.. you heard me right. It is not just a war to control oil, but to control food.

Don't you think Ron Paul realizes he risks his life everytime he speaks. He is willing to risk all to save this nation and its constitutional freedom. He is the quintessential physician for he knows that no human and no nation can have true health without freedom and truth.

[Unified Serenity]

It was great to see RP get national air time to actually give some real answers and not be cut off or treated like crazy uncle Ron. I think there is more to the Grover Cleaveland issue than simple snippets taken possibly out of context. I say that based on observing that many times things can be put in such a way that if you don't do the research those bit of information are not giving a complete picture, but a very skewed one. I am not defending Grover Cleaveland, but I cannot honestly say I am a GC expert. I do know that Grover Cleaveland was battle way back then to avoid a Fed system and Income tax. So, his keeping us on the Gold Standard was very important, and Presidents have to pick their battles.

I do like that RP stated that one man cannot go to Washington and just make all these changes, that it's the people who must want these changes. The changes RP stands for scares people who quite frankly have learned to depend on others for their basic daily needs, and some of them are very afraid that support will just be ripped away from them. I know RP is not going to do that to the people. He talks about incremental changes to bring things back to the constitutional way of governing. He also points out that eventually we will be completely broke if we don't change our ways, and then the rug will be ripped out from under everyone, and that my friends is what revolution looks like. As Celente says, "When the people have lost everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it!" Ron Paul is trying to stop that from happening and he needs our support!

[baddbob]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
I have not seen Ron Paul waver in his philisophy or political stance in 10 years. He does not flip flop. He does not lie. He makes his stance on constitutional principles.

Obama and bush has thwarted the constitution entering us into war that we should not have been in.
the lates being Lybia. subverting the US congress buy entering through the UN and nato. You wish the UN and nato to send our youth to war with only the say so of a president? This cuts out all of your representation in congress and senate.. in essence your voice though a democratically elected republic has been usurped from you.

Guess thats ok with you though? It was only the cause for the deaths of seveal hundred thousand innocents in Iraq as we entered into a war that was not approved for by congress... but I quess thats oK... and also its ok that several hundred thousand innocents died for the 3000 in 9/11 which the Iraq people had absolutley nothing to do with... and the again 5.000 of our military lost also to compensate for 3,000 to punish... this is insanity. this war based on fear of weapons of mass distruction that we The USA actually supplied to Sadamm Hussien! how hypocritical.. and now the same is about to happen with Iran. Mark my words. they will find a way to attack Iran..when Iran has done nothing of any scale. They have endeavored to protect their own nation, which obviously is not considered a worthy endeavor... protecting thier interest in the water ways they use... etc. I do not see Iran coming near our shores as we go near theirs with huge war ships... we have been perpetually the antagonizers in the middle east.

You guys are giving away your freedom and your rights thought the patriot act and constitutionally illegal acts... and constantly crap is loaded into legislation to further limit our freedom. Ron Paul would not let that happen.

Ron Paul also beleives in not purchasing things that you cannot pay for.. makes me think you guys must all be in debt and that debt is ok.
Ron Paul also beleives in fair capitolism and trade. He beleives in letting markets work, not controlling them. He would not allow the greed that is occuring in the medical system that we currently have.. One answer... force insurance agencies to pay for medical tourism. allowing the patient to have the physician of his choice.. that would bring prices down right fast in the USA. That would move doctors from Mercedes Benz to Taurus pretty dam quick and hospitals would become much more modest in archetecture in time. No doctor deserves to take away your home and retirement and live like a freaking king and then also kill you in the process... 50% of foreclosures in the USA are not from bad loans but from foreclosures based on medical needs.

You can get the same quality of care in many areas of Mexico in a one million dollar hospital as you get in a 100 million dollar hospital in the USA.

Yes, Paul is a visionary. He has the mental intelligence to "see" exactly what will happen when we do not follow our constitution. He has the vision to see the implications and ramifactions of the Federal Reserve, he predicted Fanny mae and Freddy Mac forclosures back in 1991. He told us the problems of deregulating the banks long before their greed cleaned out the accounts of pension funds and 401K across America.

You can keep voting or flipfloppers and liers if you want. You will get what you get and it wont be good.
Ron Paul also sees that the military industrial complex is the basis for our economy and in order for our economy to keep pumping away war must ensue. This must stop. We will never have peace if war promotes financial profit. Will will always have industry like Haliburton and a$$holes like Dick Cheney to feed the fires and fill the corporate tills.

Ron Paul is against Corporate powers. He would restore the power to the people. He would eliminate corporate lobby. He would not permit the corporate ability to fund campaigns. That would bring it once again right down to the people... not corporations who have their lawyers working day and night to keep power in their hands and not yours...'

You who fear terrorist of the middle east really need to do some historical research to understand why there is terrorism in the middle east. Most of the problem comes from Israel moving people off of their lands back in the 50 's and the undending support of the annilation of palestianin people by the USA though the hands of Israli people... Zionists.


In my mind its quite simple. A degree of Isonlationism will help to heal our nation as we rebuild from the inside out. If terrorists strike then we take them out. Not before hand and we take out those who really did the deed... not those we just happen to not like and would like to control the oil of their lands as well as their economic and agricultural systems.... yes, agricultural systems.. you heard me right. It is not just a war to control oil, but to control food.

Don't you think Ron Paul realizes he risks his life everytime he speaks. He is willing to risk all to save this nation and its constitutional freedom. He is the quintessential physician for he knows that no human and no nation can have true health without freedom and truth.

Awesome post very well stated

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Posted by Arrowwind (here)
I have not seen Ron Paul waver in his philisophy or political stance in 10 years. He does not flip flop. He does not lie. He makes his stance on constitutional principles.

Obama and bush has thwarted the constitution entering us into war that we should not have been in.
the lates being Lybia. subverting the US congress buy entering through the UN and nato. You wish the UN and nato to send our youth to war with only the say so of a president? This cuts out all of your representation in congress and senate.. in essence your voice though a democratically elected republic has been usurped from you.

Guess thats ok with you though? It was only the cause for the deaths of seveal hundred thousand innocents in Iraq as we entered into a war that was not approved for by congress... but I quess thats oK... and also its ok that several hundred thousand innocents died for the 3000 in 9/11 which the Iraq people had absolutley nothing to do with... and the again 5.000 of our military lost also to compensate for 3,000 to punish... this is insanity. this war based on fear of weapons of mass distruction that we The USA actually supplied to Sadamm Hussien! how hypocritical.. and now the same is about to happen with Iran. Mark my words. they will find a way to attack Iran..when Iran has done nothing of any scale. They have endeavored to protect their own nation, which obviously is not considered a worthy endeavor... protecting thier interest in the water ways they use... etc. I do not see Iran coming near our shores as we go near theirs with huge war ships... we have been perpetually the antagonizers in the middle east.

You guys are giving away your freedom and your rights thought the patriot act and constitutionally illegal acts... and constantly crap is loaded into legislation to further limit our freedom. Ron Paul would not let that happen.

Ron Paul also beleives in not purchasing things that you cannot pay for.. makes me think you guys must all be in debt and that debt is ok.
Ron Paul also beleives in fair capitolism and trade. He beleives in letting markets work, not controlling them. He would not allow the greed that is occuring in the medical system that we currently have.. One answer... force insurance agencies to pay for medical tourism. allowing the patient to have the physician of his choice.. that would bring prices down right fast in the USA. That would move doctors from Mercedes Benz to Taurus pretty dam quick and hospitals would become much more modest in archetecture in time. No doctor deserves to take away your home and retirement and live like a freaking king and then also kill you in the process... 50% of foreclosures in the USA are not from bad loans but from foreclosures based on medical needs.

You can get the same quality of care in many areas of Mexico in a one million dollar hospital as you get in a 100 million dollar hospital in the USA.

Yes, Paul is a visionary. He has the mental intelligence to "see" exactly what will happen when we do not follow our constitution. He has the vision to see the implications and ramifactions of the Federal Reserve, he predicted Fanny mae and Freddy Mac forclosures back in 1991. He told us the problems of deregulating the banks long before their greed cleaned out the accounts of pension funds and 401K across America.

You can keep voting or flipfloppers and liers if you want. You will get what you get and it wont be good.
Ron Paul also sees that the military industrial complex is the basis for our economy and in order for our economy to keep pumping away war must ensue. This must stop. We will never have peace if war promotes financial profit. Will will always have industry like Haliburton and a$$holes like Dick Cheney to feed the fires and fill the corporate tills.

Ron Paul is against Corporate powers. He would restore the power to the people. He would eliminate corporate lobby. He would not permit the corporate ability to fund campaigns. That would bring it once again right down to the people... not corporations who have their lawyers working day and night to keep power in their hands and not yours...'

You who fear terrorist of the middle east really need to do some historical research to understand why there is terrorism in the middle east. Most of the problem comes from Israel moving people off of their lands back in the 50 's and the undending support of the annilation of palestianin people by the USA though the hands of Israli people... Zionists.


In my mind its quite simple. A degree of Isonlationism will help to heal our nation as we rebuild from the inside out. If terrorists strike then we take them out. Not before hand and we take out those who really did the deed... not those we just happen to not like and would like to control the oil of their lands as well as their economic and agricultural systems.... yes, agricultural systems.. you heard me right. It is not just a war to control oil, but to control food.

Don't you think Ron Paul realizes he risks his life everytime he speaks. He is willing to risk all to save this nation and its constitutional freedom. He is the quintessential physician for he knows that no human and no nation can have true health without freedom and truth.

Awesome post thank you. Very well stated

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I've become such a cynic and for many years have no longer had any trust in those who run our government that I don't believe that you become president of the U.S. unless the PTB want you there.

Perhaps the video above of Ali's interpretation could also apply to Ron Paul. If their intent is to make this ship go down, they might like it to go down with someone like RP at the helm. Then they can say: "See what happens when you put his ideas into practice."

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by vortex surfer (here)
I think Paul has some good points. But on an aside note it's curious that he mentions Grover Cleveland as his favorite president of all time:

*When Grover Cleveland, a Democrat, ran for President in 1884, the general impression in the country was that he opposed the power of monopolies and corporations, and that the Republican party, whose candidate was James Blaine, stood for the wealthy. But when Cleveland defeated Blaine, Jay Gould (leading American railroad developer and speculator) wired him: "I feel ... that the vast business interests of the country will be entirely safe in your hands." And he was right.

*One of Cleveland's chief advisers was William Whitney, a millionaire and corporation lawyer, who married into the Standard Oil fortune and was appointed Secretary of the Navy by Cleveland. He immediately set about to create a "steel navy," buying the steel at artificially high prices from Carnegie's plants. Cleveland himself assured industrialists that his election should not frighten them: "No harm shall come to any business interest as the result of administrative policy so long as I am President ... a transfer of executive control from one party to another does not mean any serious disturbance of existing conditions."

*In 1887, with a huge surplus in the treasury, Cleveland vetoed a bill appropriating $100,000 to give relief to Texas farmers to help them buy seed grain during a drought. He said: "Federal aid in such cases .. . encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character." But that same year, Cleveland used his gold surplus to pay off wealthy bondholders at $28 above the $100 value of each bond -a gift of $45 million."

(*Excerpts taken from A people's history of the United States of America, by Howard Zinn)

Hi vortex,

That's part of our problem really...making historical comparisons. I think in fairness to Ron Paul, he should be allowed to stand on his own merits. In my opinion his merit is a very basic, very simple, very straightforward political message. Unfortunately, our real world life is not just basic or very straightforward and simple. Paul is compelling, though, I would love to be able to solve all my personal problems with a sweep of a principled hand.

Wait don't you support obama though?

[alienHunter]

yes, I support Obama...

Let the truth bare itself...

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by alienHunter (here)
yes, I support Obama...

Let the truth bare itself...

I mean if you're going to accuse somebody of not understanding the complexity of the challenges we face I have to point out that obama at the very BEST does not have the mental capacity to even grasp these complexities and at the very WORST is pretending he doesn't grasp them to promote the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX'S agenda.

[alienHunter]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

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Sorry to break it to you man but Obama is a narcissist in a ferociously narcissistic world...

Or maybe more a... sociopath in a ferociously sociopathic world. Yea! I like that one better!

[alienHunter]

If you wish...

[spiritguide]

The political parties of this republic think it is their birthright to run the country with their loyalist. It is not! The Constitution reads "We the PEOPLE" not we the parties.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

And it does not just leave what was initiated under the patriot act unchanged. It is now the law of the land that the armed forces can be used against the citizens of the US and citizens can be indefinitely detained without habeas corpus. The patriot act was sunday school stuff compared to this.

[truthman]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

In my humble opinion, Ron Paul can't be stopped. They can't go and do a Kennedy on him. This is NOT 1963 when people were stupid and ignorant. Yes, there are still millions of stupid and ignorant Americans, but MILLIONS of Americans know, or AT LEAST have an idea of what is really going on. If he dies, people will go after the people behind the Federal Reserve. Thousands of them, and I believe the Pentagon will be behind those people.

These "elite" people are shaking with fear. The NDAA bill proves this theory. The only thing that can stop Paul is the the electronic voting machines, but I believe a lot of people behind the scenes (white hats) are watching carefully and will not let that happen (I could be wrong).


Interesting times we live guys

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by truthman (here)

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

In my humble opinion, Ron Paul can't be stopped. They can't go and do a Kennedy on him. This is NOT 1963 when people were stupid and ignorant. Yes, there are still millions of stupid and ignorant Americans, but millions of Americans know, or AT LEAST have an idea of what is really going on. If he dies, people will go after the people behind the Federal Reserve. Thousands of them, and I believe the Pentagon will be behind those people.

These "elite" people are shaking with fear. The only thing that can stop Paul is the the electronic voting machines, but I believe a lot of people behind the scenes (white hats) are watching carefully and will not let that happen (I could be wrong).


Interesting times we lives guys

EXACTLY! Couldn't have said it better myself my man. kudos.

[toad]

Gingrich as president is a scary proposition. He wants to abolish the 9th circuit court of appeals, he wants to have the power to subpoena Supreme Court judges, he calls the Palestine people 'invented'. I don't think it really matters who is president at this point, the chess pieces are in play, I have a feeling we may not make it to the next election given the direction some affairs and policies are headed.

Conservative radio host Michael Savage is so convinced that Newt Gingrich cannot beat President Obama that he has offered the former Speaker of the House $1 million dollars to drop out of the race. “The Republican presidential field has come down to two candidates who have a real chance of getting the nomination: Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney. While it’s true that Romney is not as strong a conservative as many would like him to be, the most pressing issue before America today is defeating Barack Obama, and that is something Newt Gingrich cannot do,” Savage posted on his website today. “For weeks on my show, I have enumerated the reasons why Gingrich cannot succeed in an election against Obama.”

[alienHunter]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by alienHunter (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Obama's politics are completely simple minded and short sighted man... or you could argue that he is actually making these horrible decisions because he wants a horrible outcome because he doesn't care about the citizens of this country (i believe the latter). Have you read the ndaa bill? Obama's administration requested that the language that made the bill apply to citizens as well be put in there according to carl levin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0PdDGqK0S4

I really wanna know how you could support Obama. For real, like, I don't get it...

He made them take out the language that applied to citizens but wanted to reserve the right at the administrative level to forego. I agree, the entire concept is questionable at best. It leaves essentially unchanged what was initiated under the Patriot act. Most of what Obama has been doing is in response to the forces allayed against him. I admit that it does appear that he is selling his soul to the devils but I don't believe he has lost his soul as yet. Obama is a pragmatist and we live in a ferociously pragmatic world. If Ron Paul is elected president and tries to do what he preaches, he will come to a very bad end...From all quarters and I mean ALL quarters he will be assailed and made to look the fool.

How the future plays out is not my decision to make. I, personally, believe that Obama is essentially good and working for both you and I. As so many of the Paul supporters have stated here, it is a process, it takes time, and more importantly someone has to get the ball rolling. Obama started the process 3 years ago...and who is to say, maybe it's Ron Paul's destiny to take up the mission. (I been watching karma videos... )

And it does not just leave what was initiated under the patriot act unchanged. It is now the law of the land that the armed forces can be used against the citizens of the US and citizens can be indefinitely detained without habeas corpus. The patriot act was sunday school stuff compared to this.

What I find strange about this video is that I actually went to segments of the live C-SPAN2 broadcast and never saw this particular exchange, in fact, it is the exact opposite of everything I have seen and read...very strange indeed. I'm looking. It might have been the segment that applied to U.S. citizens charged while in foreign territory not physically in the United States. If so, that could actually protect them from action taken by foreign authorities.

[modwiz]

Posted by alienHunter (here)

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Posted by modwiz (here)
Obama is supposed to win. Republicans want no part of a country that is falling apart.

Here is Ali on being president:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GVfAi7PNaeE

To true Modwiz To true...

Yes, and prophetic even. I once had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Ali when he visited my 8th grade class in Jeddah Saudi Arabia with some PLO people. He was not as quick as he was there, but he was kind. Ali hit the nail on the head there.

That's pretty funny...I take it you come from a family with a military background?

I am interested in your question about military background. Ali's conscientious objector stance was highly principled and cost him dearly. He was at the height of his career when forced to give up his crown and license. That war, if not every war, have know been shown to be nothing more than banker manipulations for one or another goal of theirs. The fact he did not assist is to his credit. The ones who did assist were victims of a game as yet unseen.

The only finger pointing should be to those usual suspects. Looking into a mirror will reveal the accomplices.

I never realized how grey type aliens are very troll looking.