Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Haha newbies!

Sorry, at considerably more than twice your age.... not a newbie.
I saw JFK assassinated and all the history in between to attain this perspective.

Oh im sorry i didn't mean it to be taken like that! I was just laughing at the fact that he used the word newbies to describe people like me.

Thanks for the clarification. Sorry I misunderstood.

[WhiteFeather]

Thanks for this Post C.R.
Q. How are we going to find out from the right source if The North Korean Dictator was actually murdered, and i do believe without a doubt that he just may have been very well executed, it makes sense and does connect some dots. Q.Was Kim Jong Ill? Some questions we need to find out from the right source, than we can move on from there perhaps. Interesting Post From Fulford, and hopefully we will soon find out.

PS If this is true, I cant wait to see JP Morgan Chase And The Bank of America Go Belly Up, The Sooner The Better. Mr. JP Morgan that P/O/Shyte will be spinning in his rotten casket in Hell.

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by Wormhole (here)
Ok... I KNOW that David Wilcock believes the story, I've known that for a long time. I did not read the case on a disinfo site; I read it on the Court of Appeals site in New York. There really is nothing more I can say. I hope that you understand that I am only trying to point out a very clear inconsistency, at least it is for me. I wish you well with out any undertones of offence. We'll find out if this case gets heard around January 23rd. I do not believe it will. You do.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

What is the inconsistency?

I have not predicted what will happen in the future. I am just glad the case has been filed and will be watching developments closely.

[NexusEditor]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Hey there Duncan, so you totally discount the fact that Ben has a very personal ax to grind against the Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world? Instead, he is working in collaboration with them against his Ancestral line and the best interests of himself and the world? And didn't he say that the Rothschild representative was "Kenji Miyamoto"? How do you get "Benjamin Fulford" out of "Kenji Miyamoto"?

Just curious.

No, I do not totally discount the fact that Ben has a very personal axe to grind etc. I merely distrust his intel sources as verbatim, and I distrust his assessments of the info he receives from his intel sources. I believe he is being fed some pretty wild disinfo which he believes to be true. I stress also, that he fails repeatedly to do background research on stuff he regurgitates and assesses. I have listened to every single radio interview he has done since he first went 'public'. I have spoken with him on the phone several times on various matters. There are many high profile researchers who share my opinion, except most dare not utter their thoughts publicly due to the legal threats issued by Fulford.

Just like Wilcock, Hoagland and Morton - readers and listeners need to stay neutral and do their own research on the claims before jumping to one emotional side or another. I advocate sitting on the fence (emotionally speaking) ie - listen, read and consider - but do not rush to EITHER belief or disbelief. All four of these sources are putting out info that contains the truth, along with disinfo, along with their various personal 'spins' on where we are going.

I sense that many of the more silent readers of this forum and others are already in that category, whereas those who have taken a 'believe' or 'disbelieve' side are regular and vocal defenders of their respective stances. Such is human nature I guess.

As for your question: "How do you get "Benjamin Fulford" out of "Kenji Miyamoto"?"
Well, as I pointed out - on Sean David Morton's interview with Fulford about Wilcock's death threats etc - Fulford promised to march immediately after he got off air with Morton to the Rothschild office in Tokyo and give them the ultimatum. ie stop immediately or its 'on'.
So, take a look at what Fulford is saying in his latest missive - he identifies the Rothschild representative (ie Kenji Miyamoto) AND publishes the phone number (which Fulford obviously would have had beforehand). Is it not obvious that the 'White Dragon representative' is himself, Fulford? Clearly Fulford is banking on the fact that the vast majority of his followers were not listening to Morton's radio show, and therefore would not know of Fulford's promised action to contact Miyamoto and issue a threat.
It is not a big deal, but it is yet another example of Fulford spinning the truth for gullible newbies in order to give it drama.

peace

Duncan Roads
Editor
Nexus Magazine

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
I listened to Sean David Morton interviewing Benjamin Fulford in relation to his alleged 'disappearance' and to David Wilcock's death threat.

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peace to you all

Duncan

Q. Is This Post By Duncan O'Finioan? If it is so, I thought he already had an account on P.A.

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
No, I do not totally discount the fact that Ben has a very personal axe to grind etc. I merely distrust his intel sources as verbatim, and I distrust his assessments of the info he receives from his intel sources. I believe he is being fed some pretty wild disinfo which he believes to be true. I stress also, that he fails repeatedly to do background research on stuff he regurgitates and assesses. I have listened to every single radio interview he has done since he first went 'public'. I have spoken with him on the phone several times on various matters. There are many high profile researchers who share my opinion, except most dare not utter their thoughts publicly due to the legal threats issued by Fulford.

Just like Wilcock, Hoagland and Morton - readers and listeners need to stay neutral and do their own research on the claims before jumping to one emotional side or another. I advocate sitting on the fence (emotionally speaking) ie - listen, read and consider - but do not rush to EITHER belief or disbelief. All four of these sources are putting out info that contains the truth, along with disinfo, along with their various personal 'spins' on where we are going.

I sense that many of the more silent readers of this forum and others are already in that category, whereas those who have taken a 'believe' or 'disbelieve' side are regular and vocal defenders of their respective stances. Such is human nature I guess.

As for your question: "How do you get "Benjamin Fulford" out of "Kenji Miyamoto"?"
Well, as I pointed out - on Sean David Morton's interview with Fulford about Wilcock's death threats etc - Fulford promised to march immediately after he got off air with Morton to the Rothschild office in Tokyo and give them the ultimatum. ie stop immediately or its 'on'.
So, take a look at what Fulford is saying in his latest missive - he identifies the Rothschild representative (ie Kenji Miyamoto) AND publishes the phone number (which Fulford obviously would have had beforehand). Is it not obvious that the 'White Dragon representative' is himself, Fulford? Clearly Fulford is banking on the fact that the vast majority of his followers were not listening to Morton's radio show, and therefore would not know of Fulford's promised action to contact Miyamoto and issue a threat.
It is not a big deal, but it is yet another example of Fulford spinning the truth for gullible newbies in order to give it drama.

peace

Duncan

One scenario does not necessarily preclude the other. Both could have occurred.

[NexusEditor]

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)
One scenario does not necessarily preclude the other. Both could have occurred.

Granted - but seriously - what are the chances?
1. Fulford announced he was going to do exactly what he claims a White Dragon rep ended up doing.
2. Fulford obviously knew in advance the name of the Rothschild rep, his phone number and street address.
3. Fulford is obviously a representative of the White Dragons himself.
4. Fulford knows in detail what the White Dragon rep was told by the Rothschild rep.
5. Fulford makes no mention of the coincidental fact that he himself was about to go do this himself - or did he not end doing what he promised on Morton's radio show?

It is way more than likely that Fulford himself is the White Dragon representative that contacted Miyamoto.

peace

[RMorgan]

Posted by Paul (here)

If Tokyo is attacked, then the Monaco bank in the Canary Islands will be knocked into the ocean

I suspect Fulford has his geology/geography a bit mixed up. It seems (from here) that the Monaco bank is already in the ocean . It seems to be 10 or 20 miles southwest of Ponta Delgada in Ilha de São Miguel, Portugal. "The submarine volcano at Monaco Bank has erupted in 1907 and 1911." I don't recall the east coast of North America being hit with a giant tsunami then .

P.S. -- See also here:

Monaco Bank is a submarine volcano constructed along a NW-SE-trending fissure 20-km south of the western tip of Sao Miguel Island. The linear volcano is located along regional tectonic trends connecting Sete Cidades volcano with Santa María Island, SE of Monaco Bank. The summit of the volcano rises to within 197 m of the sea surface. Submarine eruptions took place during 1907, when a submarine cable was ruptured, and 1911.

Ben Fulford FAIL!

Thanks Paul!

Raf.

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Q. Is This Post By Duncan O'Finioan? If it is so, I thought he already had an account on P.A.

Different Duncan.

[Kristin]

CR: "What is the inconsistency?"
It's a poorly written case.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Mark]

Thanks for your response, Duncan:

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
I merely distrust his intel sources as verbatim, and I distrust his assessments of the info he receives from his intel sources. I believe he is being fed some pretty wild disinfo which he believes to be true. I stress also, that he fails repeatedly to do background research on stuff he regurgitates and assesses. I have listened to every single radio interview he has done since he first went 'public'. I have spoken with him on the phone several times on various matters. There are many high profile researchers who share my opinion, except most dare not utter their thoughts publicly due to the legal threats issued by Fulford.

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
Well, as I pointed out - on Sean David Morton's interview with Fulford about Wilcock's death threats etc - Fulford promised to march immediately after he got off air with Morton to the Rothschild office in Tokyo and give them the ultimatum. ie stop immediately or its 'on'.
So, take a look at what Fulford is saying in his latest missive - he identifies the Rothschild representative (ie Kenji Miyamoto) AND publishes the phone number (which Fulford obviously would have had beforehand). Is it not obvious that the 'White Dragon representative' is himself, Fulford? Clearly Fulford is banking on the fact that the vast majority of his followers were not listening to Morton's radio show, and therefore would not know of Fulford's promised action to contact Miyamoto and issue a threat.

I see. I'm sorry, I misunderstood your first posting. I thought I read your post to say that Fulford himself was a Rothschild agent, not a White Dragon agent. So the belief that you share with other researchers is that Fulford has compromised himself by becoming an Agent of the White Dragons and basically sharing the information he is fed without discernment. I have also paid a lot of attention to him since he came out and, I seem to recall, these are the people who introduced themselves to him by saving his life. And he is most likely still under their protection. I don't think he has claimed to be impartial in any of these matters and, like DW, he is beholden to "powers greater than himself" in these instances where both men are sharing information gleaned from sources beyond their "pay-grade". During DW's interview with Kerry I thought that the extent to which their discernment was compromised by their dependence upon this whistle-blower information was put 'on blast' for the world to see, as both Kerry and DW kow-towed to "Anonymous" and as they must, to a degree, in order to gain access to that information.

I agree that personal research is imperative. And in these areas where personal research is not possible because we are hearing things that are quite difficult for your man or woman on the Net to corroborate or debunk because the information is not on the Net, time and serendipity seem to have a way of either proving or disproving their veracity. Perhaps the point that you make can be applied to any source that is not primary in nature, but secondary or even tertiary, as many whistle-blowers generally are.

[truth4me]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
How can Kissinger realize anything if as it is believed, that Kissinger is a clone and has been since sometime in the late '70's after his plane disappeared off radar during his return trip from London's Heathrow Airport. Is this something Ben is unaware of?

I was thinking the same thing about Kissinger being a clone....

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by truth4me (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
How can Kissinger realize anything if as it is believed, that Kissinger is a clone and has been since sometime in the late '70's after his plane disappeared off radar during his return trip from London's Heathrow Airport. Is this something Ben is unaware of?

I was thinking the same thing about Kissinger being a clone....

From what I've been able to find on it, the information checks out.

[mosquito]

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)


...... This would mean a Russian/German controlled Europe ......

Sound familiar anyone ?

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by mariposafe (here)

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)


...... This would mean a Russian/German controlled Europe ......

Sound familiar anyone ?

How does that line go "Don't be a dumb dumb, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party!" (I'm not advocating, just an reference cue.)

[NexusEditor]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Thanks for your response, Duncan:

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
I merely distrust his intel sources as verbatim, and I distrust his assessments of the info he receives from his intel sources. I believe he is being fed some pretty wild disinfo which he believes to be true. I stress also, that he fails repeatedly to do background research on stuff he regurgitates and assesses. I have listened to every single radio interview he has done since he first went 'public'. I have spoken with him on the phone several times on various matters. There are many high profile researchers who share my opinion, except most dare not utter their thoughts publicly due to the legal threats issued by Fulford.

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
Well, as I pointed out - on Sean David Morton's interview with Fulford about Wilcock's death threats etc - Fulford promised to march immediately after he got off air with Morton to the Rothschild office in Tokyo and give them the ultimatum. ie stop immediately or its 'on'.
So, take a look at what Fulford is saying in his latest missive - he identifies the Rothschild representative (ie Kenji Miyamoto) AND publishes the phone number (which Fulford obviously would have had beforehand). Is it not obvious that the 'White Dragon representative' is himself, Fulford? Clearly Fulford is banking on the fact that the vast majority of his followers were not listening to Morton's radio show, and therefore would not know of Fulford's promised action to contact Miyamoto and issue a threat.

I see. I'm sorry, I misunderstood your first posting. I thought I read your post to say that Fulford himself was a Rothschild agent, not a White Dragon agent. So the belief that you share with other researchers is that Fulford has compromised himself by becoming an Agent of the White Dragons and basically sharing the information he is fed without discernment. I have also paid a lot of attention to him since he came out and, I seem to recall, these are the people who introduced themselves to him by saving his life. And he is most likely still under their protection. I don't think he has claimed to be impartial in any of these matters and, like DW, he is beholden to "powers greater than himself" in these instances where both men are sharing information gleaned from sources beyond their "pay-grade". During DW's interview with Kerry I thought that the extent to which their discernment was compromised by their dependence upon this whistle-blower information was put 'on blast' for the world to see, as both Kerry and DW kow-towed to "Anonymous" and as they must, to a degree, in order to gain access to that information.

I agree that personal research is imperative. And in these areas where personal research is not possible because we are hearing things that are quite difficult for your man or woman on the Net to corroborate or debunk because the information is not on the Net, time and serendipity seem to have a way of either proving or disproving their veracity. Perhaps the point that you make can be applied to any source that is not primary in nature, but secondary or even tertiary, as many whistle-blowers generally are.

No - I have never said, nor do I believe, that Fulford has compromised himself by becoming an Agent of the White Dragons. I am sorry if you received that impression. My criticism of Fulford is that he doesn't do his own proper background research on what he is talking about; that he relies way too heavily on 'inside sources' as genuine intel leakers of truth; and that his assessments are not open to question (ie public challenging of his stuff gets you legal threats). My praise of Fulford is that he is genuinely trying to improve the world, and that he sells 'hope' instead of selling 'fear' as his motivation.

One other thing people on these forums need to realise, is that compartmentalisation of information and intel implies inherently that any 'insider whistleblower' can ONLY reveal what he/she has been told to be true, or what they have personally experienced to be true. Compartmentalisation of intel is PRIMARILY designed to keep intel agents in the dark about the bigger pictures - EVEN THOUGH they are fed intel about these bigger pictures - they are usually 'tainted' with disinfo, so that IF someone leaks, the leaker is identified by the specific 'taint' fed to them. Trusting ANY insider who gives intel outside their personal experience realm is a no-brainer - you simply HAVE to take it with a grain of salt. That intel is 99% fed to them from OUTSIDE their personal experience realm. This is what got the credibility of Bob Lazar into question in the early days when he came out - ie he let out some of the 'background briefing' info he was told - the info that surrounded the specific technical matter he was dealing with. That background briefing info was tainted with specifics enough to not only identify Lazar to his employers, but also to make him look a fool in the 'real science world'.

peace to you all

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Q. Is This Post By Duncan O'Finioan? If it is so, I thought he already had an account on P.A.

Different Duncan.

Wanishi, I got it now.

[GaelVictor]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Posted by mariposafe (here)

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)


...... This would mean a Russian/German controlled Europe ......

Sound familiar anyone ?

How does that line go "Don't be a dumb dumb, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party!" (I'm not advocating, just an reference cue.)

Noobs ! even newbie's would know better.

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by NexusEditor (here)
One other thing people on these forums need to realise, is that compartmentalisation of information and intel implies inherently that any 'insider whistleblower' can ONLY reveal what he/she has been told to be true, or what they have personally experienced to be true. Compartmentalisation of intel is PRIMARILY designed to keep intel agents in the dark about the bigger pictures - EVEN THOUGH they are fed intel about these bigger pictures - they are usually 'tainted' with disinfo, so that IF someone leaks, the leaker is identified by the specific 'taint' fed to them. Trusting ANY insider who gives intel outside their personal experience realm is a no-brainer - you simply HAVE to take it with a grain of salt. That intel is 99% fed to them from OUTSIDE their personal experience realm. This is what got the credibility of Bob Lazar into question in the early days when he came out - ie he let out some of the 'background briefing' info he was told - the info that surrounded the specific technical matter he was dealing with. That background briefing info was tainted with specifics enough to not only identify Lazar to his employers, but also to make him look a fool in the 'real science world'.

Thank you, NexusEditor. This is an important consideration. We must put the pieces of a puzzle together with personal verification and discernment as best we can in this paradigm, not expecting 100% accuracy from any witness considering the difficulty of the positions they are in.

[jagman]

The Korean Peninsula is a tenderbox .So regardless if Kim was murdered or if he died of cancer, Has the MSM reports, It makes
know difference ( One little spark could ignite a nuclear exchange! )