How do You Contact Your Higher Self?

[Dawn]

Hi LauraElin,
I'm so glad you visited this thread, and I really hope you do again. Your questions are for everyone who wonders about this. And in many ways this THE question of all questions, "Who Am I"? I'd like to address some of your concerns, please let us Avalonians know if this answer is helpful, and if lots more questions come up.

LauraElin: Agreements and contracts that I may have made, now how am I supposed to wiggle out of those, suppose I can't if I have? I find myself wondering.. Did I just mess up royally, why the heck did I go and ruin a good thing, I fixed it until it was broke.

Great question!!! A lot of agreements that we operate under we just accepted because there didn't seem to be another choice. I also have had experiences leading me to believe that I made vows for all time, in other lives, which are not pertinent to this one. Yet I am still operating under these. I have backed out of hundreds, if not thousands, of these types of agreements when I realized they were a limitation. Here's how I did it (very simple, by the way)

Just look at something where you seem to be unable to make choices, other than a narrow path. An example would be marriage. How many of us have, at some time or other, vowed to love and remain true to someone for all eternity? Well, what if they are not here in this reality right now? Or what if they are, and the vow you made is not appropriate any longer? Then you can just undo the energetic knots you created. You were the creator, you can un-create what you did... no problem. Just use the language below and fill in the blanks with what ever you would like to undo.

"All the oaths, vows, fealtys, comealty, committments, contracts, and agreements I have ever made about ____________, I hereby revoke, recant, recind, renounce, denounce, uncreate and destroy NOW!"

When I do this I sometimes use it as a mantra a number of times, because I can feel the energy untangling. It's fun, try it!

LauraElin: I haven't meditated in a while, I suppose... The last time, when I wanted to just *feel* it and establish a connection to my higher self, I realized this is for real and you can do real damage, if you have no idea what you're doing. And I haven't even tried to get any experiences, that was not my purpose and intent.

Laura, there is no way you can damage your higher self, and if you are seeking a connection then that is for the very best of intentions. Your True Self is so loving, so massively huge, and so tenderly waiting for your mind to relax so that it can have direct contact with you always. Nothing that you can DO will harm it in any way. The fear that you are experiencing is in your mind. Somewhere along the road someone programmed you became afraid of this beautiful connection. Relax.

I'm glad you haven't 'tried to get any experiences'. That is great, and most people don't have that wisdom. Trying on purpose to have an experience rarely works out in a good way. However, as you meditate, you will experience lots of things. That is the point of meditation... to slow down long enough so that you can experience what has been going on all along within you. When we are distracted by life that we're too busy to notice.

It is very common in a meditation to experience crying, fear, shaking, a mind that is racing, and other things like this. You may also hear, see, or feel many other things. These are happening to you all the time in daily life. But with all the busy-ness in life most don't notice. Noticing these, and allowing them to be there, is what sets you free of them. They are all energy in various forms, and will begin to align and calm, when you give yourself the time to be the calm allowing that is meditation.

LauraElin: For the ten years, when all was well, I always told myself that... Walk unafraid, and I did, it's so funny that... My good intentions and trying to work on something that may have already been working just fine, is now something I am apprehensive of, I don't feel like meditating much these days, because I feel like... Well I'm gonna be walking into another mine and who knows what that's gonna do, any one got advice on backtracking your steps? Lol. Well, live and learn. Hindsight is the best sight.

You did a wonderful job of facing yourself. Perhaps with this thread that was really created just for you and your questions, you will be willing to meditate again.

In zen, meditation is called 'just sitting' and that is what Zen monks do... just sit. In this type of meditation you just notice what is. If you decide to try this allow yourself 20 minutes at a time.

In AdvitaVendanta meditation is done from any position (not just sitting) and Jenci has done a really good description of this type of meditation here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-is-Meditation

In yoga, you do a session involving movement for about 45 minutes to an hour and then you meditate, usually lying down, with your arms in an A or a T position. This would be fun for you because the chi channels of the body are open and flowing before you do the meditation, which leads to a delightful, expansive, and easy experience.

In Access Consciousness there is a simple type of body work called 'BARS' which opens all the meridians and allows the energy in the mind to flow without blockages. You will need to take a class or pay for a session, however it might be worth if because you can have such an expanded and clear sense of Who and What you Truly Are.

No one truly knows 'Who they Are', although many have tried to describe the experience of direct knowing they have. My Zen master used to say, "It is like asking the eye to turn and see itself. Not Possible". In the end the Higher Self is experienced as an expansive flow without boundaries, age or description. Perhaps more like a verb, than a noun, so that it will not hold still for descriptions.

Your search is more worth it than you know. It is the hero's journey that is spoken of in the parables, legends, and myths. And it is always spoken of in riddles, because no one can find this for you, you are the one that must make the journey.

You haven't let fear and self judgment stop you from continuing, the proof is in your questions that opened this thread.

[nomadguy]

I have always felt the closest to my higher self, when I am most quietened.
Not fidgety, mind not wandering, my body is not needy. And in that moment...

[HORIZONS]

One must first learn to really listen - to the spiritual force within you - this is the beginning stage in my experience.

[Dawn]

Horizons: One must first learn to really listen - to the spiritual force within you - this is the beginning stage in my experience.

Please say more Horizons, How do you listen? Many people think they are supposed to hear an inner voice? How do YOU listen?

[meeradas]

I... don't.

[Anchor]

When I hear the voice of my higher self, it very often sounds exactly how I think my own voice sounds - except it is not me speaking.

I can ask it questions, and if it answers the answer comes so fast and instantly that you sometimes need to ask again because you forgot to catch it the first time around.

In rare cases the voice comes unbidden, with some inspiration to consider or act on.

Other-times it can interject when I am writing posts on forums like this one

[Jenci]

Posted by VaughnB (here)

Posted by Jenci (here)

Posted by Dawn (here)

Laura Elina: I was wondering...where I could find information on how to basically... Connect with my higher self, and not just that, but... Lately I have attempted to do so and then some time ago I started wondering, if I am really connecting with my higher self at all,

To Laura,

You don't need to connect to your higher self. You are already That.

Removing what is in the way, which prevents this realisation, is the way here. Lift the veil, so to speak.
Discarding the false self, will reveal the real self.

Take the question, "How do I connect with my higher self?" and then ask this question, "Who asks this question?"
Can you find the person asking the question?
Have a real good look.....and I mean a real good look.
Is this person asking the question real or does this person fade in the looking for her?
Be very honest here in your findings.
If you can't find an absolute sense of realness of the person asking the question, then discard the question - and just get a sense of what is left. This is the higher self.

Realisation of our Higher self is simplicity itself.
It is not anything mystical - unfortunately the illusionary self seeks the mystical
The more this is understood and can be seen, the more the Real will be revealed.

Jeanette

It's really weird Jeanette, your responses seem to always coincide perfectly with my mindset, I don't know if that's good, bad or indifferent, but it does make me feel that I'm not totally in left field. lol

I've never really had any cause, need or desire to somehow connect with my higher self, a guide, angel, not that they aren't there. In fact, in these last few years I've had a lot of serendipity, or things happening when they need to happen. Let it BE. It's been kinda reassuring.

I do have a wooden pendulum I've used like once or twice, mostly just for fun. it is uncanny how accurate it is, but I really don't find I need such a tool.

I guess if people really FEEL a need then they definitely should go down that road, how often do we travel to worlds end only to find the answer was in our own backyard. But I imagine all of this is a process, a journey, an experience otherwise we could just sit meditating 24/7.

Wishing you the very best of holidays, hope you're feeling better.

Thank you, Vaughn. You too.
Jeanette

[Jenci]

Posted by Dawn (here)

Horizons: One must first learn to really listen - to the spiritual force within you - this is the beginning stage in my experience.

Please say more Horizons, How do you listen? Many people think they are supposed to hear an inner voice? How do YOU listen?

This is a good question, Dawn and not easy to answer but I will give it a go.

I have heard a voice in the past but it is not like a voice, which makes no sense, I know. These days it is more like a movement.
My Awareness of what I am (the higher self) is space and I am not limited to my body.
You could say that my experience is out of body all the time.

When I listen to my lower self (egoic/mind identity) immediately that sense of space will contract and I move back into the body of Jeanette.
As time has gone on this contraction has become more and more painful. It's like being in a straight jacket and I have learned through this uncomfortable contraction not to spend too much time being identified with Jeanette and her story.

When Awareness shifts back to the higher self, immediately the contraction is released, my body opens up and relaxes and I am back to breathing freely in the space all around my body, rather than in the body.

On learning to listen to the voice of the higher self, very often it will be telling me to do things I wouldn't choose to do or expect and many times it will guide me towards being vulnerable.
The mind/lower self doesn't believe that being vulnerable is the right thing to do and it will try hard to resist the higher self.

The higher self is the Truth. It doesn't need to assert itself over the noise of the mind. The higher self, most times will answer immediately, it's never indecisive.... and it can be easily missed.

For example :-
I ask myself - Should I get involved in this situation?
The answer - ** Well, if I do, this could happen and if I don't that could happen, so really I should..........

The higher self answered in the space between the question and the answer indicated by the **.
It doesn't need to assert itself because it already is the Truth, it's not indecisive and most often it is the one response that the lower self doesn't want to consider.

Learning to listen to this when it is everything you don't want to do, takes sincerity and dedication but once this Truth starts to move, it really starts to move and it becomes natural.


Sometimes the higher self does not have a voice because there is nothing to say, there is no answer needed, there is nothing to do.
This can take time to learn to tune into, because the lower self (the mind) needs resolution and a plan to act on.

Learning to just rest in the realm of "I don't know" also becomes more natural and when the higher self says it is time to act, you just know not only because it becomes very obvious, but you get to the point where you cannot not do it.

Jeanette

[HORIZONS]

Posted by Jenci (here)

Posted by Dawn (here)

Horizons: One must first learn to really listen - to the spiritual force within you - this is the beginning stage in my experience.

Please say more Horizons, How do you listen? Many people think they are supposed to hear an inner voice? How do YOU listen?

This is a good question, Dawn and not easy to answer but I will give it a go.

I have heard a voice in the past but it is not like a voice, which makes no sense, I know. These days it is more like a movement.
My Awareness of what I am (the higher self) is space and I am not limited to my body.
You could say that my experience is out of body all the time.

When I listen to my lower self (egoic/mind identity) immediately that sense of space will contract and I move back into the body of Jeanette.
As time has gone on this contraction has become more and more painful. It's like being in a straight jacket and I have learned through this uncomfortable contraction not to spend too much time being identified with Jeanette and her story.

When Awareness shifts back to the higher self, immediately the contraction is released, my body opens up and relaxes and I am back to breathing freely in the space all around my body, rather than in the body.

On learning to listen to the voice of the higher self, very often it will be telling me to do things I wouldn't choose to do or expect and many times it will guide me towards being vulnerable.
The mind/lower self doesn't believe that being vulnerable is the right thing to do and it will try hard to resist the higher self.

The higher self is the Truth. It doesn't need to assert itself over the noise of the mind. The higher self, most times will answer immediately, it's never indecisive.... and it can be easily missed.

For example :-
I ask myself - Should I get involved in this situation?
The answer - ** Well, if I do, this could happen and if I don't that could happen, so really I should..........

The higher self answered in the space between the question and the answer indicated by the **.
It doesn't need to assert itself because it already is the Truth, it's not indecisive and most often it is the one response that the lower self doesn't want to consider.

Learning to listen to this when it is everything you don't want to do, takes sincerity and dedication but once this Truth starts to move, it really starts to move and it becomes natural.


Sometimes the higher self does not have a voice because there is nothing to say, there is no answer needed, there is nothing to do.
This can take time to learn to tune into, because the lower self (the mind) needs resolution and a plan to act on.

Learning to just rest in the realm of "I don't know" also becomes more natural and when the higher self says it is time to act, you just know not only because it becomes very obvious, but you get to the point where you cannot not do it.

Jeanette

This is very well said - I very much relate to it. I would also add that you must "practice the presence" so to speak - trial and error come into play, and after a while you learn to discern your HS from your ego and the myriad of thoughts inside your head - there is a learning curve involved but like Jeanette states this all "takes sincerity and dedication" and of corse patience. The processes are many and anything that helps you to sit in stillness is good. If you ever get to the point beyond words and thoughts you have arrived at an altitude of communion with your HS - and this in turn really is YOU - who you are in spirit. You also have to be willing to leave the dramas of this world behind you, as they are not as important as your mind thinks they are. Meditation in all its forms is a good place to start - this is a good way to learn how to listen - a path to find the thunder of silence.

[Sebastion]

Methinks Jenci has touched on a subject which has gone for the most part, unmentioned anywhere on this forum and that is inducing out of body experiences. For me, learning to contemplate, meditate was for that express purpose and I had a passion to "know" that knew no boundaries. In my research, I came across a passage which stated that mind couldn't be used to seek something from mind but the spirit could be used to seek spirit. Somewhere within me I instinctively knew that it was a key truth and it certainly was....

[HORIZONS]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Methinks Jenci has touched on a subject which has gone for the most part, unmentioned anywhere on this forum and that is inducing out of body experiences. For me, learning to contemplate, meditate was for that express purpose and I had a passion to "know" that knew no boundaries. In my research, I came across a passage which stated that mind couldn't be used to seek something from mind but the spirit could be used to seek spirit. Somewhere within me I instinctively knew that it was a key truth and it certainly was....

There actually is a thread or two on OBE's - you just have to look for them.

[Dawn]

This thread is fascinating to me. I love hearing everyone's personal experience expressed into words. And since words really can't say the truth about this, but only point to it, this is a fun game. I truly never 'hear' my higher self speak. However I am very comfortable resting in the unknown, whether my mind is or not. I notice that I can consider an idea and the mind will go off on a tangent of planning that will go on and on. However, if action happens (or not), it comes from a different place than the energy of the whirling mind.

Sometimes I find myself moving into action and I am not really even sure what the action will lead to. Later my linear mind will look back at the event and think, 'Well, for heavens sake, maybe the reason I suddenly started moving and went to the hot springs without any planning was to meet _____ who just happened to be there'

I used to 'live outside of the physical body' in the space all around it. However, I decided to release traumas that were caught in my body through Somatic Experiencing sessions, and I was able to come into exquisite alignment with the physical body. Now I experience this physical body as my main way to enjoy being in the earth experience. My body lets me know so many things, and the experiences it provides to me are vivid and wonderful. However, it took 4 years of sessions.... and many years to decide to do sessions, before I was 'back in my body'. I am still aware of the space around my physical body, and my other bodies which are more subtle, however I now can be fully in the physical body as well.

[Anchor]

Asking seems to be a key for me. If I can be bothered to formulate and make the request, it kind of engages the higher-self communication channel. More often that not, its if you don't ask you don't get.

I have learned that help and advice is available from all kinds of powers.

Even those times when I cant hit a nail straight, I might ask, and normally bang - in it goes in one.

A few weeks ago I was having trouble connecting my post hole digger to my tractor - normally a two person job, but I was on my own and using ropes, levers and stuff like that (plus quite a lot of bad language ). One particular part was causing me to start to curse my bad luck, and then *ping* John you idiot what are you doing? Oh yes.... "Um please can I have some help with this PTO shaft?" Clink on it goes the next time I try.

That last one was a synthesis of higher-self reminding me to ask (unbidden!) and then me asking and some angelic powers doing what they do best.

[DNA]

I had just finished reading the oversoul seven books by Jane Roberts when I was seventeen. I decided I really wanted to meet my higher self.
Everynight when going to sleep I would chant over and over again "I want to meet my higher self, I want to meet my higher self, I want to meet my higher self."

This went on for three days, on the fourth I had this lucid dream.

I was standing on a wooden patio deck, in the back of a house I had never seen before. All my friends were on the patio-deck, and we were having a party.
One by one, my friends began pointing to the horizen and noting an electrical storm.
My friends began voicing their fear of the approaching storm, and voicing this concern as they left the patio-deck.
The thunder and lightning grew in intensity, and now the only person left beside me was my best freind.
He jumped off the deck right before the storm arrived at the deck and a man in his mid-forties stepped out of the chaos and on to my deck.
He grabbed me by the nape of my neck and started whispering in my ear. Lightning and thunder were crashing all around us, and I was screaming in utter terror.
Not so much because the guy looked scary, it was more the energy he represented I just couldn't handle it.

Anyway, so I'm screaming my bloody head off, and he holds me firmly in his hands and begins whispering in my ear.
"Eat your vegtables and choose your friends wisely".
He repeated this three times before I woke up.


Scared the crap out of me. And he also impressed upon me a point that has never been lost. He always knows what is going on with me, but over exposure creates a sense of dependency in the undersoul. As such, face time should be kept to a minimum.

[Anchor]

Posted by Jenci (here)
The higher self is the Truth. It doesn't need to assert itself over the noise of the mind. The higher self, most times will answer immediately, it's never indecisive.... and it can be easily missed.

For example :-
I ask myself - Should I get involved in this situation?
The answer - ** Well, if I do, this could happen and if I don't that could happen, so really I should..........

The higher self answered in the space between the question and the answer indicated by the **.
It doesn't need to assert itself because it already is the Truth, it's not indecisive and most often it is the one response that the lower self doesn't want to consider.

Learning to listen to this when it is everything you don't want to do, takes sincerity and dedication but once this Truth starts to move, it really starts to move and it becomes natural.

Thanks!

This precisely matches my own experience.

[ulli]

Posted by DNA (here)
I had just finished reading the oversoul seven books by Jane Roberts when I was seventeen I decided I really wanted to meet my higher self.
Everynight when going to sleep I would chant over and over again "I want to meet my higher self, I want to meet my higher self, I want to meet my higher self."

This went on for three days, on the fourth I had this lucid dream.

I was standing on a wooden patio deck, in the back of a house I had never seen before. All my friends were on the patio-deck, and we were having a party.
One by one, my friends began pointing to the horizen and noting an electrical storm.
My friends began voicing their fear of the approaching storm, and voicing this concern as they left the patio-deck.
The thunder and lightning grew in intensity, and now the only person left beside me was my best freind.
He jumped off the deck right before the storm arrived at the deck and a man in his mid-forties stepped out of the chaos and on to my deck.
He grabbed me by the nape of my neck and started whispering in my ear. Lightning and thunder were crashing all around us, and I was screaming in utter terror.
Not so much because the guy looked scary, it was more the energy he represented I just couldn't handle it.

Anyway, so I'm screaming my bloody head off, and he holds me firmly in his hands and begins whispering in my ear.
"Eat your vegtables and choose your friends wisely".
He repeated this three times before I woke up.


Scared the crap out of me. And he also impressed upon me a point that has never been lost. He always knows what is going on with me, but over exposure creates a sense of dependency in the undersoul. As such, face time should be kept to a minimum.

This is one of the coolest stories I've ever read on the forum.
Now I want to meet my higher self.
Since I'm already eating my veggies and am chosing my friends as well as reading material wisely
I'm seriously curious what he/she has to tell me.
Will report back when it happens.

[christian]

The genuine intent to do so is sufficient for a connection. Everybody can do it, just do it sincerely and patiently and be sure of why you want to connect.

Drunvalo Melchizedek has an interesting take on it, he basically cites a hawaiian kahuna there, it is about connecting to the lower self first to then make the next step. Becoming like a child first. How and when does a bird learn to fly? As a youngster, jumping out of the nest and doing it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KYrAgIJAW2E

This idea of connecting to the higher self is all about getting rid of barriers and limitations, not about connecting to something for the first time, but to consciously re-establish the wholeness, I find.

[Dawn]

I just spent some time on Pie'n'eal's competing thread. I'm sure he put it up in answer to this thread. It is really worth looking at, if you're really interested in this thread's topic: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...elf-or-Source-

Part of why we are posting seemingly contradictory information here, and on his thread, is because what you see (and what you need for your next step) depends on where you are on the 'heroes journey'. I've made a post there that is pertinent to this thread as well. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post387274

In fact, both threads are really about the same topic... but from different places in the journey.

[Jenci]

Posted by Dawn (here)
I just spent some time on Pi'neal's competing thread. I'm sure he put it up in answer to this thread. It is really worth looking at, if you're really interested in this thread's topic: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...elf-or-Source-

Part of why we are posting seemingly contradictory information here, and on his thread, is because what you see (and what you need for your next step) depends on where you are on the 'heroes journey'. I've made a post there that is pertinent to this thread as well. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post387274

In fact, both threads are really about the same topic... but from different places in the journey.

If we didn't have the paradoxes and contradictions, it would be easy wouldn't it

.....it's only the mind (lower self) which cannot cope with two opposing ideas as being the same.
Jeanette

[Elethia]

Laura,

Since you have interesting visions and experiences, why not keep a journal of them. Writing it out gives you the time to look at it, and it won't perhaps be so scary. I keep a dream journal with all this stuff in it: dreams, OB's, visions, messages (voices), whatever. First I write out as close as I can to what I 'heard' or 'saw' or experienced. Then, I write out what it I think it means. Often, as I write this part I ask what is the symbolism of this? Or who is this person I had a vision of and before the mind can reason on it, there can be an answer that leaps out that may surprise you. I have learned so much about myself from this kind of journal.

Much of what comes to us is symbolic rather than literal. If you look at these experiences as a puzzle to put together it may give you the distance you need so as not to be frightened of it. You will see that you are indeed safe.

This is another great thread. Thanks everyone!