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    The Mosquito and Me.

    This is a year of decisions: to keep playing games - or seize the moment!

    Find your personal view, be happy with it and stick to it.
    It is important to understand that all views can be refined: all viewpoints have many levels.
    This is the journey on your path.
    It does not matter where you start from - all sentient beings will eventually realise the ultimate truth, even a mosquito.

    However, realising our true nature is not the end of the story.
    This experience then has to be stabilised and sustained.
    And this brings us to moment to moment...conduct.
    Conduct itself is merely the continuity of realising pure perception: this is the continuity of meditation.
    The way in which we conduct ourselves (not over-reacting and clinging) removes the lingering concepts which are the obstacles to the continuity of absolute truth. This is a gradual process.

    Clinging to an idea about ourselves creates an obstacle to liberation, in a very subtle way.
    The clinging slows down the process.
    bzzzzzz bzzzzzzz....(that was the mosquito whizzing past you)

    We would do well to acknowledge that what one person calls higher self is merely a another level of consciousness to another.
    This can appear as an absolute truth - but it is still at a conventional level of consciousness...

    Of course, this is the last thing the ego wants to hear!
    bzzzzz.... bzzzzz... (mosquito disappears into the distance while we are distracted)

    There are forces out there that are all too happy to hear us make claims about ourselves.
    They will even encourage it!
    Every time we claim a truth about ourself, it takes us away from the actual experience and turns it into a concept.
    In this way, the continuity is broken.
    bzzz...bz...bb....

    This is an extremely subtle business...

    If we cannot recognise the various levels that we naturally move in and out of, we will fixate on one aspect, without true recognition of the varying states. Therefore we can be controlled!

    The ordinary mind has been made to jump from this to that, getting itself overheated.
    In doing so, misses the subtleties at play.
    This is precisely what 'they' want...if you were anywhere near the truth, you would have been closed down ages ago!

    It is said quite often of this forum, “Ignore the teacher!” (maybe not in those exact words – but that is the essence of it).
    Again, this misses the point.
    A true teacher only reflects your inner teacher.
    They are there to help YOU find this inner teacher, but YOU have to do the work...not them!

    They are not trying to take over your mind!
    Meditation is not to put you in a trance!
    Unconditional love does exist, but at the highest level.

    If you stay in the conventional mind, you will only come up with a conventional answer.
    Find the subtle within the subtle...this cannot be achieved using the coarse mind.

    By merely noting what is going on, the mind clears by itself...this is meditation.
    If you keep jumping in to modify what is happening, inner space becomes frozen.

    We can all claim to be compassionate, but how refined is that compassion?

    Compassion can just being nice, saying nice things.
    Compassion can be actively kind.
    Compassion can be loving thy neighbour as thy self.
    Compassion can be exchanging self for other.
    Compassion can be the outcome of knowing one's true nature (and the beginning of one's awakening).
    Compassion can be joy and sadness.
    Compassion can be engaging only for the benefit of others (here we are entering the arising of unconditional love).
    Compassion is who you are.
    Compassion just is....Buddha = Awake.

    We can all claim to be awake, but this can be refined.

    We can mislead ourselves and others. This is exactly what 'they' want!

    There is a saying: “One man's meat is another man's poison.”
    Someone's ending is another person's beginning.
    We can use words such as awake, compassionate, light - but they can have many meanings, depending on the individual's understanding, and intention: the word love can hide unconscious venom...
    bzz...bz...

    The conventional mind will look for obstacles.
    Take the word 'Emptiness': in Buddhist terms, it means totally open, pure, untainted.
    But the conventional mind will turn that into nothingness, a void, a meaninglessness.

    Being told you are already enlightened is a misdirection (either conscious or unconscious).
    There is much training needed to tame the mind.
    Yes, we have that potential, but we also have demonic/selfish potential, and that is where alertness is needed.

    On this planet, not many people have woken up...we have yawned a bit.., but enlightenment is rare.

    One of the main reasons for this is the clinging to an “I”, which produces negative emotions.
    The nature of the emotions is pure perception: they only become negative when an “I” is present.

    This is where devotion has much value.
    Devotion is deep appreciation. A longing.
    It inspires us on the journey.
    It keeps us from being lazy.
    It is divine energy, full of blessings and clarity.
    It's definitely not to be sniffed at!
    Do we not all long for unity or harmony?

    This is our year...of course so is the next year, and the next...it is ongoing...until we wake up!

    Being lazy can take the form of indulging in futile diligence, and in self righteousness.
    The very moment you claim to be awake, you are out of that moment of wakefulness...you are dwelling on the past. It is frozen.

    This is indeed a subtle business...

    The mosquito may get there before you, and come back to teach you the path to happiness and away from suffering.

    …....ouch!!! ...get out the antihistamine!
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    Awesome post pie n eal! Thank you button was not enough this time. Let us stay present able to continue on our journey. I do love my memories though, and right now, I miss my debates with mom and dad. They helped me identify within and yes I shall say taught me so much. I shall always and forever cherish those memories and honor them by continuing in my search and seek to be awake.

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    That damn mosquito that bites us in the bum occasionally could be the kindest teacher!

    There four types of teacher:

    1. That which reveals the essence of your mind - Root teacher.
    2. That which you can read or hear - Lineage teacher.
    3. These first two reveal the third - The inner teacher.
    4. The symbolic teacher - the created world in which we live is our teacher.

    Once our conscious connect to its pure essence and we realise our inner teacher,
    everything becomes a reminder of pure essence.
    There are no ordinary stones anymore, it is all pure gold.
    The absolute truth is seen in the relative truth.

    ( Perhaps the Annunaki have not realised this yet!)

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    I love you Pie'n'eal ~

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    Thanks pie'n'eal. How would you describe our journey in this life and the desire to make our house a better place to live in. Has our fall into consciousness made non participation in our creation an unlikely scenario. To choose the esoteric over the exoteric would feel like I'm leaving my friends behind.
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    As a crow cries out the warning, your wispers light the dark. Thank you!


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    Quote Posted by percival tyro (here)
    Thanks pie'n'eal. How would you describe our journey in this life and the desire to make our house a better place to live in. Has our fall into consciousness made non participation in our creation an unlikely scenario. To choose the esoteric over the exoteric would feel like I'm leaving my friends behind.
    Hello Percival,
    "To choose the esoteric over the exoteric would feel like I'm leaving my friends behind."

    As consciousness evolves our view changes, or expands. This expansion can encompass everything!
    However....what was familiar, objectives in life...and friends...does changes.
    What is of benefit grows, and what is not for benefit, drops away by itself.

    Yes, it is also sad, letting go of the past.

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    Hi pie'n'eal, I always enjoy your posts, here are some further considerations to add to the mix!

    you said
    Quote We can use words such as awake, compassionate, light - but they can have many meanings, depending on the individual's understanding, and intention: the word love can hide unconscious venom...
    The same can be applied to words such as I and ego, when we refer to the ego what definition are we referring to the Latin meaning whereby ego was the word that referred to I, perhaps the definitions of Kant, the Freudian concept of the ego, or the further explorations of the ego by such notary characters as Jung and Lacan. All contradict each other in one way or other, therefore the whole concept of ego is as much a minefield as love and light. So it is quite possible that your intention in your post could be as misinterpreted as someone who is posting about love and light.

    I love this Herman Hesse quote who I am sure you are familiar with
    “Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little different immediately after they are expressed, a little distorted, a little foolish.”

    This is what one must appreciate in regards to 'teachers' what you believe they intended may perhaps be totally wrong. For as most people have not sufficiently developed their telepathic abilities, words can be misinterpreted. Thus necessitating the importance of an inner guide

    I love this quote attributed to the Buddha, of course I may be misinterpreting his intention but

    “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
    Buddha (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)

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    Hello Dorje,

    I agree with you, and the Buddha!

    The question is, what is the cause of suffering?
    One could say that it is for every individual to discover for themselves. That could take a very very long time.....it has so far!
    if one's intention is to truly find the answer, one will not waste time in speculation. A teacher can help! If that teacher's answers do not help....we find another teacher...and another. That question takes time to refine, and so does the answer.

    Slowly we realise answer, nobody can do this for us. Everyone, everything is the teacher, the symbolic teacher. Meaning whatever appears, and how we react to that appearance teaches us something about our clinging. It is our fixation with appearances that causes the suffering.

    Even then the answer still refines....until we realise their is no suffering, and no one that suffers.

    In the mean time we suffer...Oi do we suffer!!!!!


    All the best,
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    The Mosquito and Me....It does not matter where you start from - all sentient beings will eventually realise the ultimate truth, even a mosquito.
    Late Summer's Eve, and wine-dark dusk emerges earlier now, as if the shadows have always lingered just behind the façade of light, patiently biding their time, confident that the inevitable procession of the planet will favor them once more, pregnant with the promise of pinpoint starlight birthing and fading within a vast ocean of mute darkness, silent eternal night, and by the lake the mosquito swarms have thickened, tiny beings dizzy with desire, clueless in philosophies of birth and death, drawn by some anciently encoded impulse to the ecstasy of evening, life feeding upon life, drinking deeply of itself, intoxicated with the simplicity of innocent desire, the search and satisfaction, and then the search once more, in never ending cycles of urgent humming yearning, yearning beyond comprehension, free of any doubt or question, in absolute submission to that which beats their wings, their hearts, that pushes their blood to seek more blood, and blinds them to the swift approach of the devouring dragonfly.

    The wind, momentarily respectful of the vanishing light, once more stirs itself to browse and flit between the cooling leaves of the darkening trees, flowing freely, filled with songs rare ears will hear, spilling rough sinewy kisses along the branches which extend their reach to express the same force which births the wind, whirling insects, wheeling star shine -- wonder of worlds upon worlds of fervent endless mindless yearning – the same force whispering through every beat of every heart right now, every breath, every unbearably brilliant body of incandescent life.

    Being pauses in the path of itself to contemplate itself as you and I. We have wandered along this path with no idea of its beginning, no conception of its end. First bewildered, then amazed, we stagger in a daze of delight, fitted to each other as the water to the lake, the lake we circumambulate in the darkness of our loving, reflecting a mysterious light unborn in space and inextinguishable in the ceremonies of time. Any man or moth would give its eyes for but a flashing glimpse of such a Light, but it cannot be seen with the eyes in the head. Eyes can see, but not themselves, so we name this Light "The Mysterious Unseen", in this night now cloaked in the darkening silken garment of that Light. This Loving Light has broken our tongue to pieces, little fragments skittering off on feet of poetry and winking whispers, colluding with the nights' vague shapes that seem to swirl around our ankles in a kind of dancing rapture fireflies merely mimic.

    At last we have no words for this intimacy, this immensity of Light burning, blazing in the depths of a late Summer's Eve, and so we turn to each other and, smiling fiercely, dissolve into this vastness of ourself -- one love awakening to itself, one light illuminating endless space, one heart beating out the rhythm of infinity. All is well.


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    Dear Bob

    That was truly beautiful.
    Thank you.

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    "Unity can only be manifested by the Binary. Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two." ~Buddha

    I have to work on my inclination to slap at mosquitoes. I'm one of those "1 in 10" people that mosquitoes love, mosquito magnets, so by using that analogy you guaranteed the awakening of my fight or flight mechanism which resulted in me having to read this msg 4 times just to see what you were really getting at.

    I can still hear the mosquito buzzing.

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    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    "Unity can only be manifested by the Binary. Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two." ~Buddha

    I have to work on my inclination to slap at mosquitoes. I'm one of those "1 in 10" people that mosquitoes love, mosquito magnets, so by using that analogy you guaranteed the awakening of my fight or flight mechanism which resulted in me having to read this msg 4 times just to see what you were really getting at.

    I can still hear the mosquito buzzing.
    Me tooooooooo! I am one of the 10 tooooooo!

    Out of interest, and off topic , ever had a sneaking suspicion that this is one of the reasons your partner finds you so irresistible?!

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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    I love this Herman Hesse quote who I am sure you are familiar with “Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little different immediately after they are expressed, a little distorted, a little foolish.”

    I love this quote attributed to the Buddha, of course I may be misinterpreting his intention but

    “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
    Buddha (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
    Krishnamurti said 'the word is not the thing.' He also said 'do not believe anything.'
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    Another Bob that was pure poetry, stunning! Indeed, all is well.
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    Quote Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
    The Mosquito and Me....It does not matter where you start from - all sentient beings will eventually realise the ultimate truth, even a mosquito.
    Late Summer's Eve, and wine-dark dusk emerges earlier now, as if the shadows have always lingered just behind the façade of light, patiently biding their time, confident that the inevitable procession of the planet will favor them once more, pregnant with the promise of pinpoint starlight birthing and fading within a vast ocean of mute darkness, silent eternal night, and by the lake the mosquito swarms have thickened, tiny beings dizzy with desire, clueless in philosophies of birth and death, drawn by some anciently encoded impulse to the ecstasy of evening, life feeding upon life, drinking deeply of itself, intoxicated with the simplicity of innocent desire, the search and satisfaction, and then the search once more, in never ending cycles of urgent humming yearning, yearning beyond comprehension, free of any doubt or question, in absolute submission to that which beats their wings, their hearts, that pushes their blood to seek more blood, and blinds them to the swift approach of the devouring dragonfly.

    The wind, momentarily respectful of the vanishing light, once more stirs itself to browse and flit between the cooling leaves of the darkening trees, flowing freely, filled with songs rare ears will hear, spilling rough sinewy kisses along the branches which extend their reach to express the same force which births the wind, whirling insects, wheeling star shine -- wonder of worlds upon worlds of fervent endless mindless yearning – the same force whispering through every beat of every heart right now, every breath, every unbearably brilliant body of incandescent life.

    Being pauses in the path of itself to contemplate itself as you and I. We have wandered along this path with no idea of its beginning, no conception of its end. First bewildered, then amazed, we stagger in a daze of delight, fitted to each other as the water to the lake, the lake we circumambulate in the darkness of our loving, reflecting a mysterious light unborn in space and inextinguishable in the ceremonies of time. Any man or moth would give its eyes for but a flashing glimpse of such a Light, but it cannot be seen with the eyes in the head. Eyes can see, but not themselves, so we name this Light "The Mysterious Unseen", in this night now cloaked in the darkening silken garment of that Light. This Loving Light has broken our tongue to pieces, little fragments skittering off on feet of poetry and winking whispers, colluding with the nights' vague shapes that seem to swirl around our ankles in a kind of dancing rapture fireflies merely mimic.

    At last we have no words for this intimacy, this immensity of Light burning, blazing in the depths of a late Summer's Eve, and so we turn to each other and, smiling fiercely, dissolve into this vastness of ourself -- one love awakening to itself, one light illuminating endless space, one heart beating out the rhythm of infinity. All is well.


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    Luckily, I'm a master mosquito hunter. BZZZ
    Slap! (two hands coming together, squishing bug)
    Done, next?
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    I'm sorry I can't quite work out your intention with that statement are you saying that Krishnamurti said 'do not believe anything' and not the Buddha or are you saying he said it as well as the Buddha. In which case he would have been quoting the Buddha. The belief that the word is not the thing is shared by many people including William Burroughs inspiring his cut up technique. The word may not be the thing, but it can certainly create something, as another Bob has so beautifully expressed.
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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    I love this Herman Hesse quote who I am sure you are familiar with “Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little different immediately after they are expressed, a little distorted, a little foolish.”

    I love this quote attributed to the Buddha, of course I may be misinterpreting his intention but

    “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
    Buddha (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
    Krishnamurti said 'the word is not the thing.' He also said 'do not believe anything.'

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    Quote Posted by ktlight (here)
    Krishnamurti said 'the word is not the thing.'

    The mind was originally a tool in the struggle for biological survival. It had to learn that the laws and ways of Nature working hand-in-hand can raise life to a higher level. But, in the process the mind acquired the art of symbolic thinking and communication, the art and skill of language. Words became important. Ideas and abstractions acquired an appearance of reality, the conceptual replaced the real, with the result that man now lives in a verbal world, crowded with words and dominated by words.
    Obviously, for dealing with things and people words are exceedingly useful. But they make us live in a world totally symbolic and, therefore, unreal. To break out from this prison of the verbal mind into reality, one must be able to shift one’s focus from the word to what it refers to, the thing itself.
    Words are pointers, they show the direction but they will not come along with us. Truth is the fruit of earnest action, words merely point the way.

    Maurice Frydman



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