Anunnaki, Jesus and NLP (split from another thread)

[Khaleesi]

Ishtar,

That was not a personal attack. I simply quoted you and pointed to the words that show a very clever use of NLP.

[Ria]

Talk about paranoid drama making mountains out of mole hills. We are talking about archaeology and one person views. Do you really think this discussion can amount to some kind of global up rising that merits a secret top notch NLP person to front this, Plus you can verify the references

[Khaleesi]

Posted by Ria (here)
Talk about paranoid drama making mountains out of mole hills. We are talking about archaeology and one person views. Do you really think this discussion can amount to some kind of global up rising that merits a secret top notch NLP person to front this, Plus you can verify the references

Ahhh another use of NLP! Bringing in the word paranoid. Very good.

[Ria]

I decided to ask a friend, who is an NLP practitioner and teacher, to look at Ishtar thread and give me her view. The gist of what she said is that there was no reason to think Ishtar was using NLP or any subterfuge.

[Khaleesi]

Posted by Ria (here)
I decided to ask a friend, who is an NLP practitioner and teacher, to look at Ishtar thread and give me her view. The gist of what she said is that there was no reason to think Ishtar was using NLP or any subterfuge.

Could you please give us the name of this expert or have them come on personally?

[modwiz]

Yikes! Somebody let the cats out.

[Ishtar]

Of course it's attacking me personally to say I'm deliberately using NLP, Khaleesi. That would be a very manipulative thing to do. How could it be otherwise? And now we're descending into farce if we're having to ask an NLP expert to come on here to verify that I'm not using NLP. This is ridiculous.

Why do so many interesting threads on Project Avalon descend into personal attacks? It's such a shame....

You may be aware that this is one of the main tools used by the powers-that-be to discredit theories they can't disprove. Archaeologists that I work with come up against it often, that the establishment tries to attack the person when their ideas or theories don't fit in with their agenda. They attack the person because they're unable and incapable of attacking the ideas and proving them to be wrong. This is known as an ad hominen attack.

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.

It is fallacy because if I was using NLP, you ought to be able to destroy my argument anyway by using facts. However, you haven't done that ... probably because you can't. So you're attacking me personally... as did Unified Serenity.

I've been having some great conversations on here with people that have allowed me also to expand my own awareness around these issues. I'm not telling people what to think. I'm saying what I think and why .... and opening myself to further discussion on the issues raised. I have had at least one life-changing realisation since opening this thread because of others' contributions and I'm grateful for that... very grateful.

So I would ask anyone who's not enjoying this thread, or finds it meaningless, for whatever reason, to leave and go to threads that they will enjoy because it's not fair to disrupt it for everyone else. Shame on you.

[Ria]

Khaleesi
I would not dream of giving out her information here.
What about you, what are your qualifications, What level of training if any in NLP do you have.
Why are you trying to derail this thread?

[BestLion]

What does the Annunaki have to do with NLP? This thread is about the Annunaki and Niburu..If I want to read about NLP I'll google that or find it here in a thread..lets stay on topic.

[Ishtar]

Guys, I suggest we just ignore the interference and just carry on with our discussion.

[Khaleesi]

Posted by Ria (here)
Khaleesi
I would not dream of giving out her information here.
What about you, what are your qualifications, What level of training if any in NLP do you have.
Why are you trying to derail this thread?

Okay, let's get to the point here. I am not trying to derail the thread. NLP was brought up on this thread because it is being used on this thread. Of course you will not put her info here Ria. I also said you could have her come here herself. So, you have an expert that you have consulted but will not give us access to this expert so that we can ask her specific questions? I see. I think when you relay someone else thoughts without them personally verifying the info it is called heresay.

[Ria]

Can we do the Jesus stuff on another thread as there seems to be about half a dozen different Jesus running around.

[Khaleesi]

Posted by Ria (here)
Can we do the Jesus stuff on another thread as there seems to be about half a dozen different Jesus running around.

I believe if you review the posts, Ishtar brought up Jesus first. It is germane to the subject at hand by her very own post.

[MMA_Fan]

Posted by Khaleesi (here)

Posted by Ria (here)
Khaleesi
I would not dream of giving out her information here.
What about you, what are your qualifications, What level of training if any in NLP do you have.
Why are you trying to derail this thread?

Okay, let's get to the point here. I am not trying to derail the thread. NLP was brought up on this thread because it is being used on this thread. Of course you will not put her info here Ria. I also said you could have her come here herself. So, you have an expert that you have consulted but will not give us access to this expert so that we can ask her specific questions? I see. I think when you relay someone else thoughts without them personally verifying the info it is called heresay.

I don't see why it matters. There is no evidence to suggest (no pun intended) that NLP is effective. Especially not on a forum in one or two posts:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery.../mentserv.html

Any proven mind control techniques like MKULTRA or Project Monarch that I have read about involve psychotropics, hypnosis, torture etc.

Edit: Sorry about helping taking this thread off topic with the above and my Jesus post.

[Ishtar]

Posted by Khaleesi (here)

Posted by Ria (here)
Can we do the Jesus stuff on another thread as there seems to be about half a dozen different Jesus running around.

I believe if you review the posts, Ishtar brought up Jesus first. It is germane to the subject at hand by her very own post.

So now you've failed to disrupt this thread over NLP, you're taking a different tack and trying it with the historicity of Jesus.

Please give a message from me to whichever psi-op outfit is running you: that they need to give you more training because I can see straight through your tactics.

[BestLion]

Posted by Ria (here)
Can we do the Jesus stuff on another thread as there seems to be about half a dozen different Jesus running around.

I hope. I wish to destroy this faith completely! i very passionately hate this religion!

[Khaleesi]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by Khaleesi (here)

Posted by Ria (here)
Can we do the Jesus stuff on another thread as there seems to be about half a dozen different Jesus running around.

I believe if you review the posts, Ishtar brought up Jesus first. It is germane to the subject at hand by her very own post.

So now you've failed to disrupt this thread over NLP, you're taking a different tack and trying it with the historicity of Jesus.

Please give a message from me to whichever psi-op outfit is running you: that they need to give you more training because I can see straight through your tactics.

So since I am capable of seeing your use of NLP and seeing that you brought up Jesus first, I am being used by a psy-op outfit? Interesting.

[Ishtar]

Posted by Ria (here)
I am aware of the world wide wisdom teachers and there traveling while ministering to the sick etc
Anu and what is the current perception of the Anunnaki are two compleatly different things, the name has been hijacked

Yes, and that is exactly my purpose in starting this thread, to explain how I think that is the case and also how I think it came about.

[Ria]

Now the hijackers, the Anunnaki who and what exactly are they?
are they an amalgam of disinformation?
A group that wonted to disguises who they were to gain control?
A mixture of the two?
4d enterties hijacking the bigest bully around by way of getting their jollies?

[Ishtar]

I think I answered all that in the last post, Ria.

The disinformation is created by men (and women) who're saying that the Anunakki are the bogey-men and they're coming to getcha!!