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    Default David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    On 01-01-2011- Conscious Media Network posted an interview with James Martinez:, where James states that:
    "This announcement is to serve as the introduction of a New Global Economic Structure that will begin surfacing in 2012. Those involved in this plan are calling it the “greatest humanitarian effort” in modern history. It will be for each of us to determine over time if this is a truthful statement."
    The full interview and details are posted with the video.

    Within 12 hours David Wilcock posted the following:
    "The moderators informed me we are getting inundated with comments from people linking to a story on Conscious Media Network about someone claiming to represent an alliance of 130 countries that will be launching a new financial system.

    THIS IS A HOAX. I am now in direct contact with the top people organizing the 122-nation alliance we have been speaking of, as a consequence of getting deeply involved in investigating and writing about the lawsuit -- and they told me this story is not true.

    It is possible that we are just dealing with someone looking for publicity. It is also possible that this is intended to distract people from the real issue and do it in a way that can be discredited, so people do not believe the real story."
    Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy have previously interviewed Mr. Martinez for a Camelot interview on 30 November 2009, so both of these, seeming "competitors" are known to the PC/PA audiences. It is HIGHLY unlikely that Mr. Wilcock is unaware of Mr. Martinez work---his ambiguous posting not withstanding---yet he dismisses Martinez as: "... someone looking for publicity." He also quips: "It is also possible that this is intended to distract people from the real issue and do it in a way that can be discredited, so people do not believe the real story."

    Wilcock also maintains that: " Kerry Cassidy vouched for the legitimacy of the man giving the information. "

    I call BS! Kerry has also denied the real identity of "Anonymous" who appeared on the infamous live radio show where David has his crying fit---yet, this same entity, Anonymous, is NOT who he claims to be. Given the hysteria and theatrics of David Wilcock over the last month, why should we believe him? And WHY does he operate in such a clandestine manner? Why does he dismiss a well-known researcher and media expert as Mr. Martinez as a "hoax" in search of publicity and a "disinfo agent"?

    These are questions I would ask of Kerry, but she does not reply to my emails. Ditto for David. I have requested a reply from Mr. Martinez on this subject.

    Listeners and readers need to begin asking tough questions of their media sources NOW! The BS, hidden agendas, cloaked identities, and drama queen antics are stale and only serve the dark side in splitting the truth seekers into camps. Project Camelot has lost a lot of its hard-won integrity over figures like Wilcock and Richard Hoagland.

    Do we continue to paddle in the pool of vague innuendo and "star figures" at the expense of some solid reporting? Do we allow the communities of truth to be split off and destroyed by emotional theatrics and cheap "mysterioso" figures...or do we pull the plug and begin to swim in the upstream of reality?

    It's time to ask the RIGHT questions and STOP promoting agendas that read like a dime store novel. My articles on the subject are posted at the OffPlanet Radio blog where anyone is welcomed to comment. I have asked James Martinez to be interviewed on my show, which is about to announce a new network affiliation.

    Randy Maugans - OffPlanet Radio
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Whooooo wipes the tears of laughter from my eyes...... side still hurting. If you believe this bilge, I have another story for you:

    Quote THIS IS A HOAX. I am now in direct contact with the top people organizing the 122-nation alliance we have been speaking of, as a consequence of getting deeply involved in investigating and writing about the lawsuit -- and they told me this story is not true.
    LMFAO..... me me me mememememmemememememememememeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lmfao

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    I couldn't agree more - Im feeling fatigued but will not quit this is for certain...

    However, this who's right and who's wrong is completely distracting us from what we really should be paying attention to - this is turning into a pissing contest.

    I love David, always have - stood up for him, however my gut is telling me this is now getting out of alignment - we need to sit and breathe and focus on the big picture, regardless of who's telling it.

    Ever play the game telephone? At the end, no matter how much we f*cked up the message, we all figure it out. Lets hope this turns out the same.

    David, I know its crazy, tough, and overwhelming but pllllllllllllease chill out.

    Much love.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Thanks Randy,
    Kerry has always had a policy of openness when interviewing people, a few things come into mind like the "Heather Material". Though many did not agree with the content and the legitimacy was full of holes; she went on anyway to report the claims. I find that this is her standard. There seems to be a very open policy as to who and why she is involved in these things. Her stock answer will be that she is just reporting to find the truth. It's her get out of jail card, free. I am in agreement that questions need to be answered and that all of this smacks of a publicity stunt IMHO. However, the question that you pose which interests me most is why discredit Martinez... I' glad you are having the interview with James. Let us know what your new network affiliation is. I hope this doesn't turn into another circus, I'm a little tired of not seeing the man behind the curtain.
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    The very idea that David Wilcock is like some secret secretary of state meeting with the heads of a 122 nation alliance .......whoooooo weeeeeeeeee..... omg.... stop stop ... can't stop laughing....

    I can't wait to hear the next installment.... stay tuned folks cause surely this can't be guerrilla marketing for fan base, attention, power plays, or simple ego... on no, his message is too important. ROFPMP.... god I think I need to wear depends.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Don't misunderstand: there is a LOT a stake here. ANY "global economic" realignment should be viewed with deep skepticism. After all, we have already lived under a global economy for over 60 years (Bretton Woods). It has been the source of massive wars, the worst greed in history, and a toll of MILLIONS of human lives,. This is not some side-show event. The fact that two competing camps are at work---and given what we know about how the cabal operate---means that sloppy, emotionally based media exploitation cannot be tolerated. Weighing the two "sides" as presented by Mr. Martinez and Mr. Wilcock, I will give James the benefit of the doubt on the basis of solid character and a measured effort over many years in his work.

    I have accepted an invitation from Dave Corso---which was publicly made on the 01-01-2012 show with Dave, Duncan, and Miranda.details are still being worked out. That said, I still hope for a recovery of balance at Project Camelot---this is not a competitive bid, it is a call for those who are playing in the media realm to "get real". decisons are being made that affect ALL OF US!

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Martinez looks like he`s tellin lyes in that interview on c.m.n,,
    as for wilcock` thats the secound time he`s knockin others ?
    is every story just full of ****,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Have you read the lawsuit Randy? What do you think?
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    James Martinez is not know for lying. On the other hand, it's hard to see David's for his "crying towel". What id this is ALL a set-up?

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    I read it. Anyone can initiate a lawsuit in a venue, the question is whether it will ever be reviewed, heard, or decided. WHO run the courts? WHO controls the MONEY?
    To date none of the lawsuits around missing sums of money have taken wings. I am skeptical enough to believe "they" do not give it up so easily. Of the two, Mr. Martinez present a more compelling grasp of actually working in the system to effect change for people---Mr. Wilcock has NO track record in the economic realm (other than a NY Times best-seller...and WHO financed THAT?)

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    This is part of what I've been on about for the last 2 years......

    James interview with Dr.Rossi last week......He says Cold fusion is imminent.....interesting ???

    http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...-Cash_Flow.mp3
    ( posted wrong link, this is the right one cheers)


    Kerry has interviewed James twice now the second time was just before she went to India....
    He is the second interviewee and is on for a couple hrs.
    They don,t talk about this subject.They talk about Walter Bowart and mind control and other subjects.
    Worth a listen if you have not heard it , and will give you a feeling about James...Who seems a very genuine human being to me!!!

    http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-101211.mp3
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Quote Posted by randymaugans
    James Martinez is not know for lying. On the other hand, it's hard to see David's for his "crying towel". What if this is ALL a set-up?"
    I'll be honest with you, after I read the lawsuit I believed from that moment that it was a set-up. My father was a NY Judge. I've read a lot of these statement of claims. I don't think it has legs, as is. That's been the main point that has kept me from sitting on the pin cushion. I HOPE for more here. But that hope is very slender and no one likes to be disappointed. We'll see what happens. Regardless, time will be telling the story on this one soon.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Careful here. This may be an effort to discredit and "divide and conquer" the alternative media. MSM viewership has been falling exponentially and the alternative media is growing leaps and bounds. There's a "shakeup" as people look for a place to get true and real information, and disinfo campaigns are bound to pop up. Hang onto your hats here for a day or three, and let's pull back the curtain and see what happens.

    David calling Martinez a HOAX was a bit over the top for me.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    I agree gripreaper, but who is starting it? Who is putting it out there for people to choose a side? Who ?

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    I have only 2 questions for David Wilcock:

    "Why all of a sudden did you decide to virtually (Take Over) Ben Fulford's story in the 1st Place..?"

    "When did you ever become a 'Financial Journalist'..?"

    Enough said..!

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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    I have only 2 questions for David Wilcock:

    "Why all of a sudden did you decide to virtually (Take Over) Ben Fulford's story in the 1st Place..?"

    "When did you ever become a 'Financial Journalist'..?"

    Enough said..!
    I think that happened when it became the hot topic de jour. Let's all focus on the way to change this, let's all focus on who can lead us out of this mess while they say it's to wake us up so we can do it, but wait, there's more......

    We all know what freedom is internally. We had it stolen from us when we first lost alloidal titles. We all lost it when our communities were industrialized and we became cogs in a wheel. We all lost it when we lost our roots. Ever wonder why the "new age" movement is so focused on first learning how to ground? Roots are vital for a plant, a person, a community to grow, to show love and care about one another you have to feel secure and know with whom you are yoked and know it's equal.

    There is no equality if 99% never know security.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    I agree gripreaper, but who is starting it? Who is putting it out there for people to choose a side? Who ?
    Good question. We do know that the nefarious elite bloodline families at the top of the pyramid, who control the global money supply (except of three rogue little countries) all the means of production, all the energy, governments and militaries, are VERY powerful, entrenched and will not give up thousands of years of power and control, just because a couple of ninja's say they will kill them, or 130 countries say they will go against them and they better back off.

    If it is true, that this opposing energy has been working on this for hundreds of years, and there is in fact enough resources and power in opposition, then it is time to bring it out into the open for all to see, instead of:

    My secret source said this, and her secret "anonymous" source said that, and blah...blah...blah... oh, and by the way, you need to wait two more weeks for the release of this excellently great information and stay tuned for part 3 of this epic adventure... all you little people who are not on the inside and "in the know"

    Oh, and don't forget to buy my best selling book and my DVD's!

    It's time to call everybody out onto the carpet.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    I agree gripreaper, but who is starting it? Who is putting it out there for people to choose a side? Who ?
    Good question. We do know that the nefarious elite bloodline families at the top of the pyramid, who control the global money supply (except of three rogue little countries) all the means of production, all the energy, governments and militaries, are VERY powerful, entrenched and will not give up thousands of years of power and control, just because a couple of ninja's say they will kill them, or 130 countries say they will go against them and they better back off.

    If it is true, that this opposing energy has been working on this for hundreds of years, and there is in fact enough resources and power in opposition, then it is time to bring it out into the open for all to see, instead of:

    My secret source said this, and her secret "anonymous" source said that, and blah...blah...blah... oh, and by the way, you need to wait two more weeks for the release of this excellently great information and stay tuned for part 3 of this epic adventure... all you little people who are not on the inside and "in the know"

    Oh, and don't forget to buy my best selling book and my DVD's!

    It's time to call everybody out onto the carpet.

    You earn my new favorite video Gripreaper...... PREACH IT!!! I feel a wave of action. I know who to invite from my community when it all falls apart to farm the small bit of land I am on, to grow some food, to break bread with. I won't be holding my breath or waiting for some stupid aliens to get my bacon out of the fire, no sir.


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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    Firstly i must say i like David and the effort he puts in, but i also think he jumped on the bandwaggon when Benjamin released the info.

    But looking at David's first impression responses over time, he does tend to have opinions that turn out later to be way off the mark. His original response about Benjamin's info on the lawsuit was that it was not true, he later retracted that statement.

    So i keep this in mind when i hear his latest response that this is a hoax. Maybe it is or maybe not. David does not influence my decision, i will wait to taste the good fruit, ripe and ready to eat before i make my mind up.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

    -------

    On record: this (below) is the only time I've spoken with James Martinez. It was of the most enjoyable and interesting interviews I've done, and I was left with a great deal of respect for him.

    http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles...ember_2009.mp3

    ****
    James Martinez was a business colleague and close confidant of Walter Bowart - the author of the groundbreaking, whistleblowing book Operation Mind Control published back in 1978.

    This is a fabulous audio interview which will be of enormous interest to all who (like myself) benefited greatly from Bowart's seminal work. We learned from James how Bowart, who died two years ago, in many ways 'regretted' having written the book - and how he had had profound ET contact: something never before revealed, and which he had been unwilling to talk about when he was alive. We learned of his philosophy, his hope for the human race, and his awareness of the importance of the expansion of consciousness. James summed it up by stating that for Walter, it was all about the liberation of the Human Spirit. Amen.

    For the 8,000 word detailed synopsis of Walter Bowart's important unpublished work, THE INVISIBLE THIRD WORLD WAR, please click here.



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