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    Great vids Marianne. Love the talisman. I wonder if on the positive we'll find ways to green the deserts and free energy breakthroughs involving water.

    Not sure what Nep's up to on my chart but I do know my finances are in upheaval!

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    Just remembered as well, there are two rare venus transits in this year, thats got to be good.

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    Quote Posted by Marianne (here)
    Calz, love that squirrely poker metaphor. I'll try to up the ante.

    Barbara Goldsmith talking about Neptune in Pisces & what it will mean in our lives:

    This one reminds me of PL:


    I am heading back to work today after my winter vacation. Things feel so weird today.

    Marianne

    Hey JB

    Wow ... that one (those two) take more than a "thank you".

    Didn't know you were one of the astro buffs

    Have to put on my poker face while seeing if it is in the cards to hold em or fold em.



    (no poker smiley ... what are ya gonna do?)

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    Second power cut in less than a week, and lasted 1 1/2 hours.
    Just after I posted that last post, which again had a glitch.
    For some reason all my posts on this iPad come with those tobogganing dogs attached. Weird.

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    Here and now...very warm & toasty in my hidey-hole. Clock ticking, dog snoring, space heater humming away. Found awesome theta and music pieces on youtube last night. Tried one, and it made me too filled with energy to sleep lol, so I'm headed there now for a dose of happy

    Here's to a great day....Much Love,
    Life is a road we don't travel alone. But everyone's on their own journey home.

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    Sounds like its a pretty long term endeavor, Astrid. Then when you get on the shaman train you have a one way ticket...lol.

    I liked working in a group after a breaking in period. After previous experiences working in spiritual communties I didn't think I would but ..I realize now even being in the sucky spiritual communties taught me more about intervention, and meditation than if I been in one where everyone was standing in their intention of being a community.Part of the shamanic expression is debating and meditating issues in the community and intervention and if the community is hunky dory one doesn't have much opportunity to hone those skills. The problem was it just become all about mediation, and facilitating 'issues' between other members.

    Like any other group one is challenged by those few who bring ego and drama in over and over. We quickly learned how to identify who was there to have the group be a community and those who were there to use the community as a stage. I'd make this question very direct. "Okay say you enter my home one day and you find me smearing **** all over the walls, what will you do?"

    The two that didn't react to that question are still with me to this day...lol.

    What I miss most is those little moments of synchroncity and magick and weird little things going on between other's in the community.

    The hand writing is a chore after being used to instant typing. Remember that callous we used to get on the first or second finger, from writing? I'd entirely forgotten about that callous , its gone now. and if I have to write for more than ten minutes my hand is sore...lol. But..I'm pitching 90 percent of my written material, and texts this year so most people in session will be writing. I used to find myself writing what I said down for them, and that's me working harder than them. Which I am not going to do any more.

    Relating something orally and then having the audience jot it down helps to anchor that information . My own handwriting is illegible....lol. When I go back and re-read it I find enough legible words to key up my recall but can't really use it as a reference.


    After the first communities I was in I was leery about particpating again . But .....Even though I was the facilitator I found everyone brought something to the table. Huge learning experience for me, one learns more from the other's particpating than from the actual intended course.. The people who are meant to be there will always being some eye opening contribution. Then of course you get the ones who aren't really meant to be there but I found out the challenges alone usually cause them to drop out.Those are people who are given the 'idea' about shamanic expression instead of simply finding a shared place to allow their essential nature to express. You know "I'm here beause my dentist thinks I'm a shaman."

    I think you'll find it a great experience and come out the other end a entirely different person.
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    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    Survived the heat yesterday, very intense but
    I must say I'm more of a summer person.
    Maybe it's the lack of fire in my chart, summer
    seems to balance that out . Can't say I'm a
    fan of high humidity though, we mostly have
    dry heat where I am thankfully .
    Both dogs struggle with the heat which is normal ,
    worse thing was Louis was not eating , so I had to
    work on that . Gave him a boost with some vitamins ,
    minerals and some Ginger and garlic which is meant to
    increase appetite. And last night was so impressed with
    him he ate more than he has in weeks so
    something is working .

    Me - I sorted out my calender for January and I'm
    now officially a shamanic student . It's going to be an
    Interesting experiment because I have no sense
    of time. I will be having to set reminders and alarms
    which will surely drive me insane , lol. If I can get
    into a weekly pattern I should be ok, as I will
    intuitively know where I'm meant to be and when .
    It's very much going to be a team effort with my higher
    helpers, and really the whole core of Shamanism is to
    have a strong working relationships with them so it's
    all going to fuel itself . I could have skipped some
    of the earlier classes, but I figured it's all practice and
    makes for a stronger foundation . Also a good
    exercise in quietening the ego to start at the
    start. I will be working hard in the first weeks at
    being receptive and sponge like rather than a
    know it all, lol

    Workig in a group setting will be a big part of the
    challenge/ learning for me , but looking forward
    to that . Really we are all going to have to learn
    to work in collaborative ways if we are to get
    through these times , so all great skills to have .

    Cooler today and storms brewing .
    Took a double dose of Ormus this morning as
    I forgot to take it last few days. Getting lots of
    third eye pressure and body separation feeling,
    Interesting.
    A gorgeous leather journal I ordered arrived today.
    Hand made with the tree of life etched on the front
    , I bought it especially for documenting my journeying .
    Now I'm on the hunt for some appropriate writing
    implements, my hand writing is pretty atrocious
    something I'm aiming to work on.

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    Calz, love that squirrely poker metaphor. I'll try to up the ante.

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    Try as I may (or is that June?) ... best I can do is call your astro b(l)uff.



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    Here is my take on Neptune in Pisces.
    It won't be as big a deal as some make it out to be.
    The biggest change happened in the world with the last transit, during the nineteenth century.
    Now it's just going to be the second wave, as the spiritualization process really sinks in and individuals will achieve enloghtenment en masse.
    The world before 1848 was a world where the fastest form of transport was the horse.
    Monarchs ruled, the people had zero say.
    Illumination came from candles. Neptune brought the industrial revolution and dissolved the power structures, especially that of the Popes and the Catholic Church. Pope Pius VI was the last Pope who had wordly powers.
    What will happen now will be more of the same, higher octave.
    People will channel messages from other dimensions like never before, and some will be useful, while others will be misleading.
    What else is new? Water will become more expensive before it becomes totally abundant as those problems will find solutions like massive destillation plants that convert sea water into clean tap water.
    Oil will be replaced by water as an energy source. Since Neptune rules liquids and gases that's where the greatest changes will take place.
    Fracking will get worse before it gets better. It's up to the people to take a stand against the corporations who driven by competition concerns will always take the route of convenience and profits.
    The people of the 19th century were victims at a much greater degree than today and with this transit of Neptune greater numbers than ever will claim their rights.
    Amongst those who don't know how to fight for their rights the need to transcend will become stronger than ever...
    I would imagine a drug and alcohol epidemic of unheard of proportions...while others who are more evolved will take the spiritual path.
    Many people will realize that the lowest realms of 3D are also subject to creative change, only require more patience
    because of the time factor. They will leave the cities and discover what life is like when you take on the forces of nature.
    Considering that the earth is made up of mostly water I find Neptune really important, and now going into it's own sign IOW, going home, means much good will come from these next 14 years. It all depends on an individual's heart connection...if their antenna to heaven is encrusted with barnacles than the heavenly signals might be mixed with the murmurings of those barnacles, and inspiration/intuition won't be functioning at optimum efficiency. Then they'll have to deal with Neptunian deception and subsequent confusion.
    Those lessons will lead to a desire for clarity...and once that desire becomes a powerful wish then enlightenment is inevitable. Hence it's all good. Viva Neptune and his sirens.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    I would imagine a drug and alcohol epidemic of unheard of proportions...
    Related to this ... my suggestion was to be considering making the best effort to be drug and alchohol free going forward.

    The negative and postive effects of your choice(s) are likely to be amplified.

    Not an easy choice with all the stress factors going on in the world now (and in the coming days) so ulli is correct in that a great deal of people will opt for the easier of the two paths.

    IMHO

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    Quote They will leave the cities and discover what life is like when you take on the forces of nature.
    :D
    I'm feeling that, for sure.

    Sounds a bit scary, though, "taking on the forces of nature"...eek. Better beef up....ALOT!
    Life is a road we don't travel alone. But everyone's on their own journey home.

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    Maybe tooooo simple, I dunno. Wot do you feel?



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    Quote Posted by 1inMany (here)
    Quote They will leave the cities and discover what life is like when you take on the forces of nature.
    :D
    I'm feeling that, for sure.

    Sounds a bit scary, though, "taking on the forces of nature"...eek. Better beef up....ALOT!
    I read somewhere that the city is for the body and the country is for the soul.
    The forces of nature, like the four seasons, will help shape a person to become more humble and find their place in the universe.
    The artificial environment of cities only serves to create a desire body. Those who have the financial means can indulge themselves, yet never discover spirit other than by reading about it in books.

    Any sincere seeker would be better off in the country, growing their own food. Since there are fewer systems established it is much easier to detect the divine Hand at work.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Here is my take on Neptune in Pisces.
    It won't be as big a deal as some make it out to be.
    The biggest change happened in the world with the last transit, during the nineteenth century.
    Now it's just going to be the second wave, as the spiritualization process really sinks in and individuals will achieve enloghtenment en masse.
    The world before 1848 was a world where the fastest form of transport was the horse.
    Monarchs ruled, the people had zero say.
    Illumination came from candles. Neptune brought the industrial revolution and dissolved the power structures, especially that of the Popes and the Catholic Church. Pope Pius VI was the last Pope who had wordly powers.
    What will happen now will be more of the same, higher octave.
    People will channel messages from other dimensions like never before, and some will be useful, while others will be misleading.
    What else is new? Water will become more expensive before it becomes totally abundant as those problems will find solutions like massive destillation plants that convert sea water into clean tap water.
    Oil will be replaced by water as an energy source. Since Neptune rules liquids and gases that's where the greatest changes will take place.
    Fracking will get worse before it gets better. It's up to the people to take a stand against the corporations who driven by competition concerns will always take the route of convenience and profits.
    The people of the 19th century were victims at a much greater degree than today and with this transit of Neptune greater numbers than ever will claim their rights.
    Amongst those who don't know how to fight for their rights the need to transcend will become stronger than ever...
    I would imagine a drug and alcohol epidemic of unheard of proportions...while others who are more evolved will take the spiritual path.
    Many people will realize that the lowest realms of 3D are also subject to creative change, only require more patience
    because of the time factor. They will leave the cities and discover what life is like when you take on the forces of nature.
    Considering that the earth is made up of mostly water I find Neptune really important, and now going into it's own sign IOW, going home, means much good will come from these next 14 years. It all depends on an individual's heart connection...if their antenna to heaven is encrusted with barnacles than the heavenly signals might be mixed with the murmurings of those barnacles, and inspiration/intuition won't be functioning at optimum efficiency. Then they'll have to deal with Neptunian deception and subsequent confusion.
    Those lessons will lead to a desire for clarity...and once that desire becomes a powerful wish then enlightenment is inevitable. Hence it's all good. Viva Neptune and his sirens.
    my comment on 'getting lost'..was about how people tend to grab the first thing they see or come upon, when navigating (and diving into) spiritual waters. The danger is that the first thing, taken without due and constant evaluation, can be the wrong direction, the wrong thing to be doing. So it is best to look closely and look closely always. To change or not change when the time comes. This requires an act of constant self evaluation from a clear standpoint. The only way to be clear of clouding emotions or the bodily act of safety and familiarity through sleepwalking or repetition, is through constant re-evaluation of the self, in or at one degree or another.

    It's not about self affectation (an egoic premise), it is the act of checking one's position so it flows when it needs to, without an undue pile of issues that have built up that might cloud the situation. Drifting. A Pisces thing.

    Thus, the need to be aware that the Pisces depths of potential for self deception can come through, and that fecal matter might end up resembling shoe polish.
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    Quote I read somewhere that the city is for the body and the country is for the soul.
    The forces of nature, like the four seasons, will help shape a person to become more humble and find their place in the universe.
    The artificial environment of cities only serves to create a desire body. Those who have the financial means can indulge themselves, yet never discover spirit other than by reading about it in books.

    Any sincere seeker would be better off in the country, growing their own food. Since there are fewer systems established it is much easier to detect the divine Hand at work.
    Ooohhhh. In that case, oh yeah!
    Life is a road we don't travel alone. But everyone's on their own journey home.

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    @Carmody
    Now I remember....That line is from the movie The Jerk...Steve Martin...saw it years ago.
    Like Being There (Peter Sellers) it's about deep stuff that often is lost on the sophisticated mind but the simple guy gets it.
    I always like to see an astrological sign in the context of it's opposite sign, as together they form a whole.
    So we have Neptune, associated with Pisces and Mercury, associated with Virgo. And together they form the Pisces Virgo axis...Neptune equals spirit (both good and bad) the principle of wholeness and gathering, and Mercury which rules the
    mind hence about distinction and being specific....so here I get the biblical analogy of the harvest (Pisces), and sorting wheat from chaff (Virgo)
    By itself, Pisces without Virgo's discernment can be quite scary. It can lead to that type of a hell where when the tea break is over everybody has to do their head stands in deep sh*t.

    Pisceans have this amazing pain threshold which I could never keep up with which is why my Pisces relationships often went south.
    With my packed 6th house I'm actually more Virgo than Capricorn, and thus discernment is added to Capricornian double checking, Capricorn being naturally cautious and Virgo being analytical and detail oriented.
    In Pisces, the last of the twelve signs, which is the threshold to the next dimension...Neptune can lead either upwards or downwards.... I'm reminded of those passages inside the Great Pyramid which end either in the pit, or go upwards to the Queen's and Kings Chamber.

    By the way, the Queen's Chamber in my view, represents 1848 and Neptune's Pisces transit back then, and the King's Chamber is 2012, and Neptune's current entry into Pisces. Something I think I intuited, so don't take my word for it unless it really resonates.
    Though I have heard of the concept of the passages inside the Great Pyramid representing a calendar, so perhaps I did read it before.
    Just my musings...Neptune made me do it.
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    [QUOTE=jorr lundstrom;394241]Maybe tooooo simple, I dunno. Wot do you feel?

    I feel John Sherman is simply clarity...once You are You and 'happy in that' everything unfolds in front of You, moment by moment, without chaos, without drama..You ARE the living remedy in the now! Joy just happens...where we are going is already here.

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    Here is Neptune in Pisces... worst case scenario.


    and here at it's best:

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    The biggest change happened in the world with the last transit, during the nineteenth century.
    Now it's just going to be the second wave, as the spiritualization process really sinks in and individuals will achieve enloghtenment en masse.
    The world before 1848 was a world where the fastest form of transport was the horse.
    Monarchs ruled, the people had zero say.
    Illumination came from candles. Neptune brought the industrial revolution and dissolved the power structures, especially that of the Popes and the Catholic Church. Pope Pius VI was the last Pope who had wordly powers.
    That is the short version.

    For anyone interested in more:

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    Neptune Is Going Home!

    by Boots Hart, CAP on November 1, 2010


    In going direct on November 7 at 6:05 in the morning (+00/UT), planet Neptune will, of course, begin moving to catch up with where it was when it went retrograde late last May. But it will also be doing something else of note. This is Neptune on “final approach” (as fliers say) to its home sign of Pisces. And that’s a big deal.

    The last time Neptune spun its big blue self into Pisces, the year here on Earth was 1848. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was ending the Mexican-American War, Louis Philippe was abdicating himself right out of a royal French job, the Swiss were putting finishing touches on their constitution (no doubt over a cup of hot chocolate), French painter Paul Gauguin was getting himself born, and both Thomas Alva Edison and Alexander Graham Bell were just then in diapers, Edison no doubt feeling in the dark and Bell already wanting to call his congressman. But alas—as yet there were no phones (hence his need to invent one).

    During the 14 years (a fortnight of years, we might say) that Neptune then went on to spend in its home sign of Pisces, wars got fought (the Crimean and American Civil, among others) the speed of light got measured, Moby Dick and The Scarlet Letter got written, Steinway began making pianos, rayon went into production (much to the delight of draping designers the world over), Sigmund Freud emerged from his mother’s womb (an event he would contemplate throughout life) and Pasteur proved that fermentation is produced by living organisms.


    Charles Darwin was going about publishing On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection as Dickens was penning A Tale of Two Cities and Great Expectations. And just as Neptune was about to resign itself into Aries, Victor Hugo released Les Miserables, R.J. Gatling perfected the gun which would forever bear his name, Jean Henri Dunant came up with the idea for the international relief organization which would become the Red Cross, and much to my future delight, a first skeleton of Archaeopteryx—the missing link between reptile and bird—was discovered at Solnhofen, Germany, this fact surely outing me as a fan of dinosaurs in general….though they would have made lousy house pets, most of them.

    Over a hundred years later in a fit of annoyed wondering (read: complaining) about how people haven’t thought through this love of dinosaurs thing, my father (who hadn’t an ounce of sympathy for how scared I had gotten while we had watched a screening of Jurassic Park) said the best thing about having a Tyrannosaurus Rex as a pet would have been that it was one critter which could go out into the neighborhood to find its own dinner.

    This I mention because such flights of fantasy are entirely Neptunian. As were all the events which transpired while Neptune was in Pisces. Pisces is about how we feel about our feelings. Steven Spielberg not doubt wanted to evoke a few shrieks and cringes with Jurassic Park—but like as not, he also wanted us to think about possibilities. Along with “I hope,” “what if..?” is one of the big Piscean catch-phrases around. It’s also ardently Neptune, whether we’re longing for romance, yearning for salvation, envisioning some future or imagining some long ago.


    Neptune is all humans hold in common, will ever hold in common, our evocative common root factors. It symbolizes our spirit of adventure, the perils which go with that and the foibles of human nature as portrayed on stage, screen, literature, song and the reality of life. Neptune represents the dissolution of boundaries between the known and unknown, whether that leads us to illusions or to thinking outside the box as Darwin, Gatling and Pasteur did. In denying us the shell-like armor of ego it allows us to connect with others and thus and thus write a work like A Tale of Two Cities or think in terms of a world where there would actually be an international relief organization ready to respond to anyone’s disasters.

    And yet, in Neptune being the symbolic outcome ruler of Pisces, it’s most about the beauty of emotional flowering or painful angst of despair which comes out of our having comprehended the source of our own feelings, for Pisces is primarily a land of Jupiterian proportion. How well we know ourselves and our ability to accept realities is what sets us up for Neptunian highs and lows.

    All this we will experience maximally once Neptune is in Pisces. But first Neptune has to get to Pisces. And yet…these months ahead say a lot and inform us greatly, since what Neptune does now sets the stage from which big brush stroke emotional dynamics will yet evolve over a next decade.

    This starts with Neptune going direct at 25 Aquarius on November 7 (UT). There, conjunct the brilliance of a Quasar, Neptune’s position speaks to reactions evoked and provoked as we’re all in flux, floating back and forth about the possibilities of any and every given thing. It’s a moment of societal interest probably born of insecurities we may not want (or be able) to own up to.

    The Sabian symbol for this degree is “A garage man testing a car’s battery with a hydrometer.” We are given many a polarity…that between water and acid (the battery) and the relative difference between power and weakness—the strength of power can also be corrosive or even shocking…and yet weakness can be an inability to get anything moving. Too much water (emotion) obviously “waters down” potential, and yet too little emotion creates a dangerously caustic environment. The “quasar effect” here can highlight what can be achieved, what can be scattered by Neptune’s famously infamous fog effect into either inspiration or illusion…or maybe for you, Neptune is just some big giant black “thing” which is blotting out the light.


    And to do all this, there is skill involved (the garage man doing the test). Since he is employing his knowledge to do what he is doing, so are we. Are we hiding? Emerging from hiding? Being real? Wearing a mask? Evading some truth? Working the system? Deluding ourselves with ideas of brilliance, or our brilliant ideas?

    That part is up to you. Certainly having any kind of fluid as part of this station’s degree image tells us that there is/will be an element of emotionality which will now be exacerbated, exposed…or perhaps purposefully covered up. Sheer frustration can lead to breakdowns and with Aquarius being an airy sign of thoughts, ideas and concepts all things systemic, interpersonal and mental are implied.

    With Neptune’s station occurring early on November 7 (UT), station effects begin on November 5 and run through the 9, and woe to those who ignore events which happen now—even though ignoring is a Neptunian specialty. Sometimes it’s just leniency, comprehending that people are people and no one’s perfect (Neptunian mercy and understanding). Then again, sometimes it’s a total Neptunian denial trip—not wanting to see some inconvenient truth you might actually have to acknowledge and deal with.


    Because Neptune is going direct while in conjunction with Chiron, there’s also a whole aura of not wanting to deal with things not because we’re nasty, irresponsible or foolish…but simply because we don’t know how to fix the problem or deal with the situation. Of course that’s really just playing weak battery water (to use the Sabian image), and the reality of the problem is that you can be the dead battery or get recharged and get on with your life. Ultimately no one is going to fix us or do what is really ours to do. We either get charged up and get on the road to what we want and need in life or we volunteer to further dissolution of our power and potential while gathering dust in the human junkyard of our own self-disrespect.

    Once Neptune is in direct motion, it arrives at 26 Aquarius on November 24, perfecting (strengthening) that Chiron need to make things happen, even though we don’t really know how to get all done. This is necessity as the mother of invention. Despite much scattering and chaos, there is more to be gained here than just putting food on the table. No, the real point of this moment…and in the days and weeks to come (seeing how Neptune will be in 26 Aquarius throughout the holidays and into the first of the new year) is to recognize that merely by doing we learn to do.


    Those who get this lesson now will really have been given a great holiday present—and it won’t cost a thing (monetarily, that is) and you can gift it to yourself without guilt. As a matter of fact, give yourself this realization and a lot of overall guilt will be dispelled—and you’ll incur less going forward. All that an no wrapping required? How can you resist? (No, don’t answer that!)

    Moving into 27 Aquarius come January 10, Neptune highlights reality while tempting us to remove ourselves from that reality—a tricky combination all about our willingness to diagnose the difference between risking the status quo against investing in the future. With Neptune (and Chiron) now positioned at the midpoint between Mars in Capricorn (the drive to get things done) and Uranus in Pisces (lack of certainty producing insecurity) the real question is how we grapple with ego—the “my” position in all things.

    During the four weeks or so that Neptune will be in this degree, the offset between knowing the reality and being able to put aside uncertainty and the “ego effect” of convictions so that positive results can be achieved tests all and sundry, creating a testy atmosphere. Expect much fussing, even name-calling. Those who work to reconsider positions in terms of reality gain ground; those who choose to stand on idyllic platforms find their ground approved of, but not viably supported (or supportive). And this is apt, since ideals aren’t real. Theories must in the end hold real water or be relegated to “longings.” Here Neptune dispels some hopes, and forces others to abandon manipulations, based on preference for workable, functional efforts—some of which will (perhaps much to everyone’s surprise!) turn out to be actual solutions.


    Arriving at 28 Aquarius on February 7 in the company of asteroids Circe and Amphitrite, we get another clear picture of Neptune as the symbol of enchantment (Circe) and the bliss which comes of cooperation. The question here being whether the power of sorcery (the ability to lead and direct what happens) is good or bad and whether the cooperation is about teamwork or surrender, we are all likely to experience temptations and all likely to know what we shouldn’t simply succumb to.

    Trouble is, this is Neptune we’re talking about. And where Neptune’s concerned, there is this rather strong tendency not to risk, and to go for what makes you happy in the moment despite the fact there will be personal hell to pay not far down the line. You know—when Neptune hits Pisces.


    Neptune’s last degree stop in Aquarius this time around begins on March 6—pretty much just as the Nodes have shifted from Capricorn/Cancer into Sagittarius/Gemini, an event which marks the beginning of roughly two-and-a-half years of very big discussions which really should be about workable goals and functionality instead of options, ideas and possible new avenues of exploration. Still, out of such periods do come great advances, and with Neptune entering 29 degrees conjunct Sappho. While there’s a poetic quality to the moment which could be good or bad, Sappho’s well known aura of universality suggests the eliminating of certain personal or group interests, which bodes well. Or well enough!

    Twenty-nine Aquarius has a reputation for huge challenges which provide the grist upon which the mentality sharpens its teeth (try that image on for size!). The fact that Neptune enters 29 Aquarius with Uranus at 29 Pisces (conjunct social sour grape juice producer Scheat) warns of turbulent waters.

    And from this may come the most important Neptune lesson of all about how humans learn more and learn better through trials and pain than they ever do during good times. In the wonderful children’s book The Thirteen Clocks, author James Thurber puts it this way: “The jewels of sorrow will last beyond all measure.” The jewels of laughter in this tale…? Well, they last but a fortnight. The good and bad of that? Well, that’s the very essence of Neptune, which upon its entrance into Pisces come early April will shift our emotional hopes and anxieties away from their current focus on the greater Aquarian society and onto the very nature of humanity itself…which is maybe where it belongs.

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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    The biggest change happened in the world with the last transit, during the nineteenth century.
    Now it's just going to be the second wave, as the spiritualization process really sinks in and individuals will achieve enloghtenment en masse.
    The world before 1848 was a world where the fastest form of transport was the horse.
    Monarchs ruled, the people had zero say.
    Illumination came from candles. Neptune brought the industrial revolution and dissolved the power structures, especially that of the Popes and the Catholic Church. Pope Pius VI was the last Pope who had wordly powers.
    That is the short version.

    For anyone interested in more:

    ______________


    Neptune Is Going Home!

    by Boots Hart, CAP on November 1, 2010


    In going direct on November 7 at 6:05 in the morning (+00/UT), planet Neptune will, of course, begin moving to catch up with where it was when it went retrograde late last May. But it will also be doing something else of note. This is Neptune on “final approach” (as fliers say) to its home sign of Pisces. And that’s a big deal.

    The last time Neptune spun its big blue self into Pisces, the year here on Earth was 1848. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was ending the Mexican-American War, Louis Philippe was abdicating himself right out of a royal French job, the Swiss were putting finishing touches on their constitution (no doubt over a cup of hot chocolate), French painter Paul Gauguin was getting himself born, and both Thomas Alva Edison and Alexander Graham Bell were just then in diapers, Edison no doubt feeling in the dark and Bell already wanting to call his congressman. But alas—as yet there were no phones (hence his need to invent one).

    During the 14 years (a fortnight of years, we might say) that Neptune then went on to spend in its home sign of Pisces, wars got fought (the Crimean and American Civil, among others) the speed of light got measured, Moby Dick and The Scarlet Letter got written, Steinway began making pianos, rayon went into production (much to the delight of draping designers the world over), Sigmund Freud emerged from his mother’s womb (an event he would contemplate throughout life) and Pasteur proved that fermentation is produced by living organisms.


    Charles Darwin was going about publishing On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection as Dickens was penning A Tale of Two Cities and Great Expectations. And just as Neptune was about to resign itself into Aries, Victor Hugo released Les Miserables, R.J. Gatling perfected the gun which would forever bear his name, Jean Henri Dunant came up with the idea for the international relief organization which would become the Red Cross, and much to my future delight, a first skeleton of Archaeopteryx—the missing link between reptile and bird—was discovered at Solnhofen, Germany, this fact surely outing me as a fan of dinosaurs in general….though they would have made lousy house pets, most of them.

    Over a hundred years later in a fit of annoyed wondering (read: complaining) about how people haven’t thought through this love of dinosaurs thing, my father (who hadn’t an ounce of sympathy for how scared I had gotten while we had watched a screening of Jurassic Park) said the best thing about having a Tyrannosaurus Rex as a pet would have been that it was one critter which could go out into the neighborhood to find its own dinner.

    This I mention because such flights of fantasy are entirely Neptunian. As were all the events which transpired while Neptune was in Pisces. Pisces is about how we feel about our feelings. Steven Spielberg not doubt wanted to evoke a few shrieks and cringes with Jurassic Park—but like as not, he also wanted us to think about possibilities. Along with “I hope,” “what if..?” is one of the big Piscean catch-phrases around. It’s also ardently Neptune, whether we’re longing for romance, yearning for salvation, envisioning some future or imagining some long ago.


    Neptune is all humans hold in common, will ever hold in common, our evocative common root factors. It symbolizes our spirit of adventure, the perils which go with that and the foibles of human nature as portrayed on stage, screen, literature, song and the reality of life. Neptune represents the dissolution of boundaries between the known and unknown, whether that leads us to illusions or to thinking outside the box as Darwin, Gatling and Pasteur did. In denying us the shell-like armor of ego it allows us to connect with others and thus and thus write a work like A Tale of Two Cities or think in terms of a world where there would actually be an international relief organization ready to respond to anyone’s disasters.

    And yet, in Neptune being the symbolic outcome ruler of Pisces, it’s most about the beauty of emotional flowering or painful angst of despair which comes out of our having comprehended the source of our own feelings, for Pisces is primarily a land of Jupiterian proportion. How well we know ourselves and our ability to accept realities is what sets us up for Neptunian highs and lows.

    All this we will experience maximally once Neptune is in Pisces. But first Neptune has to get to Pisces. And yet…these months ahead say a lot and inform us greatly, since what Neptune does now sets the stage from which big brush stroke emotional dynamics will yet evolve over a next decade.

    This starts with Neptune going direct at 25 Aquarius on November 7 (UT). There, conjunct the brilliance of a Quasar, Neptune’s position speaks to reactions evoked and provoked as we’re all in flux, floating back and forth about the possibilities of any and every given thing. It’s a moment of societal interest probably born of insecurities we may not want (or be able) to own up to.

    The Sabian symbol for this degree is “A garage man testing a car’s battery with a hydrometer.” We are given many a polarity…that between water and acid (the battery) and the relative difference between power and weakness—the strength of power can also be corrosive or even shocking…and yet weakness can be an inability to get anything moving. Too much water (emotion) obviously “waters down” potential, and yet too little emotion creates a dangerously caustic environment. The “quasar effect” here can highlight what can be achieved, what can be scattered by Neptune’s famously infamous fog effect into either inspiration or illusion…or maybe for you, Neptune is just some big giant black “thing” which is blotting out the light.


    And to do all this, there is skill involved (the garage man doing the test). Since he is employing his knowledge to do what he is doing, so are we. Are we hiding? Emerging from hiding? Being real? Wearing a mask? Evading some truth? Working the system? Deluding ourselves with ideas of brilliance, or our brilliant ideas?

    That part is up to you. Certainly having any kind of fluid as part of this station’s degree image tells us that there is/will be an element of emotionality which will now be exacerbated, exposed…or perhaps purposefully covered up. Sheer frustration can lead to breakdowns and with Aquarius being an airy sign of thoughts, ideas and concepts all things systemic, interpersonal and mental are implied.

    With Neptune’s station occurring early on November 7 (UT), station effects begin on November 5 and run through the 9, and woe to those who ignore events which happen now—even though ignoring is a Neptunian specialty. Sometimes it’s just leniency, comprehending that people are people and no one’s perfect (Neptunian mercy and understanding). Then again, sometimes it’s a total Neptunian denial trip—not wanting to see some inconvenient truth you might actually have to acknowledge and deal with.


    Because Neptune is going direct while in conjunction with Chiron, there’s also a whole aura of not wanting to deal with things not because we’re nasty, irresponsible or foolish…but simply because we don’t know how to fix the problem or deal with the situation. Of course that’s really just playing weak battery water (to use the Sabian image), and the reality of the problem is that you can be the dead battery or get recharged and get on with your life. Ultimately no one is going to fix us or do what is really ours to do. We either get charged up and get on the road to what we want and need in life or we volunteer to further dissolution of our power and potential while gathering dust in the human junkyard of our own self-disrespect.

    Once Neptune is in direct motion, it arrives at 26 Aquarius on November 24, perfecting (strengthening) that Chiron need to make things happen, even though we don’t really know how to get all done. This is necessity as the mother of invention. Despite much scattering and chaos, there is more to be gained here than just putting food on the table. No, the real point of this moment…and in the days and weeks to come (seeing how Neptune will be in 26 Aquarius throughout the holidays and into the first of the new year) is to recognize that merely by doing we learn to do.


    Those who get this lesson now will really have been given a great holiday present—and it won’t cost a thing (monetarily, that is) and you can gift it to yourself without guilt. As a matter of fact, give yourself this realization and a lot of overall guilt will be dispelled—and you’ll incur less going forward. All that an no wrapping required? How can you resist? (No, don’t answer that!)

    Moving into 27 Aquarius come January 10, Neptune highlights reality while tempting us to remove ourselves from that reality—a tricky combination all about our willingness to diagnose the difference between risking the status quo against investing in the future. With Neptune (and Chiron) now positioned at the midpoint between Mars in Capricorn (the drive to get things done) and Uranus in Pisces (lack of certainty producing insecurity) the real question is how we grapple with ego—the “my” position in all things.



    http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2010/11/2306/
    Very good article, Cal, but most of it dealt with 2011. It was written in 2010.
    Planets loop their way, they don't travel in straight lines, so Neptune was at 0 degrees Pisces from April until July of 2011, then moved retrograde again, back into Aquarius.
    Right now Neptune is moving forward again, and is on the last degree of Aquarius, which means people whose birthday is Feb 18th, or 19th, are going through a real Neptunian period...unable to make decisions as too many options are being presented.
    That's the problem with Neptune, he shows us EVERYTHING then says take your pick.
    Not an easy thing to do when it's all good.

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    I copied the whole article for those interested.

    It does talk about what happened the last time period Neptune was in Pisces.


    Quote The last time Neptune spun its big blue self into Pisces, the year here on Earth was 1848. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was ending the Mexican-American War, Louis Philippe was abdicating himself right out of a royal French job, the Swiss were putting finishing touches on their constitution (no doubt over a cup of hot chocolate), French painter Paul Gauguin was getting himself born, and both Thomas Alva Edison and Alexander Graham Bell were just then in diapers, Edison no doubt feeling in the dark and Bell already wanting to call his congressman. But alas—as yet there were no phones (hence his need to invent one).

    During the 14 years (a fortnight of years, we might say) that Neptune then went on to spend in its home sign of Pisces, wars got fought (the Crimean and American Civil, among others) the speed of light got measured, Moby Dick and The Scarlet Letter got written, Steinway began making pianos, rayon went into production (much to the delight of draping designers the world over), Sigmund Freud emerged from his mother’s womb (an event he would contemplate throughout life) and Pasteur proved that fermentation is produced by living organisms.


    Charles Darwin was going about publishing On the Origin of Species by Natural Selection as Dickens was penning A Tale of Two Cities and Great Expectations. And just as Neptune was about to resign itself into Aries, Victor Hugo released Les Miserables, R.J. Gatling perfected the gun which would forever bear his name, Jean Henri Dunant came up with the idea for the international relief organization which would become the Red Cross, and much to my future delight, a first skeleton of Archaeopteryx—the missing link between reptile and bird—was discovered at Solnhofen, Germany, this fact surely outing me as a fan of dinosaurs in general….though they would have made lousy house pets, most of them.

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    Astrologer and director of The Green Gathering festival Steve Judd says pretty much the same as you Ulli, from what Ive been reading on his blog the last few months. Anyway here's todays blog from him.....In a weird way, I dont think that 2012 has started yet. Saturn and Neptune are hovering at the very end of their signs, and whilst Jepiter and Uranus are at the very start of theirs, they're not moving forwards quite yet.

    I think that the year doesn't properly start, astrologically speaking, until early February, when Neptune finally (and permanently in all of our lifetimes) leaves Aquarius and moves into Pisces. I'm looking at the coming year with excitement, trepidation and above all else, curiosity. This week, and much of January, is a kind of no-mans land of relative inaction, a few mild stumbles but that's all. Many of the planets are either gearing up to move forward, or gearing down to go retrograde.

    The energy of the coming few months is definatly with the new Moons, with the one on 24 December on Pluto, the 23rd january strongly sextile uranus and square Jepiter, the 21st February on top of Neptune, and 22nd March on top of Uranus. To my mind the first eleven weeks of the year are a seeding ground, a time of throwing fishing lines into the future to see what you reel in and what reels you in.

    That was obviously a short term update for now but he pretty much says the same as you Ulli, in other posts of his on Nep in Pisces.

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