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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Let's assume that Ron Paul will actually be elected the president of the United States. What then?
    Ron Paul's supporters are more likely to be active participants in the restoration of the US government.

    Yes, Ron Paul will have an upstream battle in trying to change the status quo in the US government and his power would be limited but, he can use the bully pulpit to rally the American people and activate the 4 branch of government...
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    Default Re:New Ron Paul Video... explains a lot

    Ilie

    He can choose not to renew the Executive Orders.

    He can create new Executive Orders

    He Can call into question the constitionality of several laws and political moves ie. supercongress NDAA and SOPA sending these to the courts.

    Utilize the line item veto

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    The way I see it, IF Ron Paul really is the good guy that he seems he is, he will find himself alone locked in an office packed with wolves.

    If his so called supporters really supported him, he would not have to become president to dismantle the FEDs or to call into questions the constitutionality of certain laws! Where are his supporters now?! Taking photos of him and posting "tweets" ?

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    Default Re:New Ron Paul Video... explains a lot

    Ron Paul is my hero too. Such fresh ideas and straight shooting from a politician is rare indeed.
    But...
    He is part of the establishment. And the establishment understands that change is inevitable. So, why not offer a candidate that walks a path off the beaten trail? One that will implement change, yes, but controlled change - in anticipated areas with plenty of forewarning and time to prepare. He talks of Liberty, which is fine and good so long as freedom for the individual is respected and upheld by the constitution. He talks of free market enterprise, also well and good if it is unfettered by vested interests and lobbyists. He talks of shrinking the size of the federal government, nice sentiment but only if the cuts are in the correct departments.

    In short, beware of what comes after election day, in the months and years to follow.
    Hold them to these promises and do not allow them to falter or back-pedal or otherwise derail the unpalatable but necessary task of cleaning up and streamlining the government.

    Ron Paul for prez!
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    Default Re:New Ron Paul Video... explains a lot

    Unified Serenity, I totally agree with you, hell this man has to be looked after. He has to be the next president or America will slide down the tyrannical martial law pan if left to the neocons.

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    Default Re:New Ron Paul Video... explains a lot

    This man is the only electable person for this office [planetwide] at this time.

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    Default Rick santorum's nephew supports ron paul!

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/th...rick-santorum/

    Oh my god you guys this is so awesome! He's first in the latest new hampshire poll too! We can do this! They can't rig a landslide!

    https://m.facebook.com/auth.php?api_...6h%3DBAQFbFUOE

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    Default Re: Rick santorum's nephew supports ron paul!

    haha that is rich.

    "Ron Paul seems to be the only candidate trying to win the election for a reason other than simply winning the election."
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    Default Re:New Ron Paul Video... explains a lot

    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Not only should Ron Paul Be The Chief In Command, he should also have a seat in The Galactic Council Of Planets. Don't stop at President Ron, Shoot for the stars! You just might end up in a different star system.

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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Let's assume that Ron Paul will actually be elected the president of the United States. What then?
    Totally Agree,,,,I hope after he wins, he doesn't get the sitdown speech from The Inside Government threatening his life if he doesn't obey their terms.
    Go look at Regan's campaign speaches... he was a more articulate ron paul.


    I still feel that Ron Paul is exactly where he is supose to be and will never be anythign other than what he is.. UNLESS it becomes more opertune to have him elected then turn him into obama part 2... Look at how much of a rollercoaster that ride was? so many people TRUELY believed he was "hope 'n change"... that level of let down had to have a huge effect...


    I've become wary of the easy path, or the "easy solution"... Ron Paul is like sugar to me... yeah its amazing at first, then you die from diabeties....
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    Default Re: Rick santorum's nephew supports ron paul!

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    Oh my god you guys this is so awesome! He's first in the latest new hampshire poll too! We can do this! They can't rig a landslide!

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Iowa caucus- too close to call between Romney and Santorum at 25% each. They are about 37 votes apart, with Ron Paul in third place at 21%.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

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    Ron Paul Will Win In The End

    by Jay Weidner

    Quote “All truth passes through three stages:
    First it is ridiculed;
    Second it is violently opposed;
    Third, it is accepted as self evident.”
    --Arthur Schopenhauer
    Ron Paul will win in the end. That’s right. It doesn’t matter anymore how the criminals in charge try to change the vote, or how they conjure lies and attack him and his ideas. None of that is going to work anymore.

    Don’t get me wrong. There is no way in hell that Ron Paul will win his quest for the Presidency.

    The corporate criminals and their toadies in the media will never let that happen. They will do everything they can to squash Ron Paul and his ideas.

    Who has the uncanny ability to unite Rush Limbaugh, Rachel Maddow, Dick Morris, Bill Clinton, Sean Hannity, Keith Olbermann, MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, The New York Times, Move On, Media Matters?

    Answer: Ron Paul. Why does he unite everyone on the left and right? What is it about Ron Paul that unites the media?

    Ron Paul and his movement are a direct result of the Internet. The Internet also showed the thinking people of the world that there is a corporate criminal mafia and it is in charge of everything. It owns the military, the media, the religions, the educational system the banks and most of the major corporations.

    This revelation that we are ruled by a small group of corporate criminals is the real fuel behind Ron Paul.

    When one carefully deconstructs Ron Paul’s positions one discovers a consistent and focused cohesion. Just underneath the facts and positions that he lays out is the driving reality that we are being run by this small group of criminals. Ron Paul is waaaay too smart to admit this in public. The idea of this criminal cabal is still taboo.

    No Ron Paul refuses to actually name the criminals or even admit that they exist. That’s cool. That is a good way to keep your head intact. Look at the last two guys to go after this criminal network; their initials are JFK and RFK. So don’t expect him to be a 911 Truther or speak openly about this group of criminals. That’s asking too much.

    But every single one of his positions is designed to obliterate this criminal network. When looking at Ron Paul it is necessary to completely remove your ideology goggles. One of the ways that the Internet is waking us up to is the fact that our ideologies, beliefs and protocols have all been given to us, invented by, this criminal network that now threatens our very existence. Examining his positions it is easy to see that Ron Paul knows and understands who is really ruling us. He has worked it out and his positions are really the only way out of the mess we are in. The criminal network has worked its way into almost every institution that exists. Understanding that it becomes clear that the only way out of the current predicament is too get rid of almost all of the institutions that exist.

    That would be schools, militaries, large bloated federal programs, foreign aid and a lot more. These institutions exist almost solely to keep the masses in line and stupefied as to the existence of the criminal cabal. These institutions are not there for the reasons that they claim to but they exist because they are tools of the criminal network. Our schools don’t teach us how to think, but what to think, our military is not there to make us safe, but to invade and steal the possessions of other countries for this criminal network.

    Ron Paul articulates positions that, if put into effect, would eventually undermine this criminal network. Once we can remove the shackles of this cabal we will come to understand how much wealth we really have. When that moment comes a lot of our current unsolvable problems will become solvable.

    It is beyond imagination to even begin to realize how much of the world’s wealth has been stolen by this criminal network. They have perverted everything, distorting our economies, our cultures, our values, and our spiritual beliefs. They have contaminated everything. It is only through the dissolution of this network can we truly discover what we have and who we are.

    Ron Paul understands this perfectly. He is outlining exactly the path that we must collectively take in order to set things right.

    Now the divisions will appear. We will soon see who is for getting rid of the criminal cabal and who is for keeping it. Because of the Internet and Ron Paul it will become apparent who really understands what is going on and who does not have a clue. Those people who refuse to join the new media, those people who insist on staying spoon fed by the criminal corporate media will find themselves on the wrong side of history.

    At this point Arthur Schopenhauer famous quote on the way ideas progress through a culture needs to be reviewed:

    Quote “All truth passes through three stages:
    First it is ridiculed;
    Second it is violently opposed;
    Third, it is accepted as self evident.”
    In 2008 the media ridiculed Ron Paul and his positions. Fox News wouldn’t allow him to appear at their Republican Debate resulting in a rain of snowballs coming down on Sean Hannity as he tried to get into the building housing the debate. Fox News reasoned that Ron Paul wasn’t a serious candidate, that he was a joke. Four years later we can see that actually Fox News is an arm of the criminal network and they saw what Ron Paul was doing and it scared them. That is the real reason he was not invited to the debate.

    If 2008 was the year of ridicule, 2012 will be the year of violent opposition. The same media that ridiculed Ron Paul also let Barrack Obama have a free ride to the White House. As soon as he got into office Obama, not really understanding the cultural swing, tried to implement old and failed ideas. Even though he ran as the wave of the future he was really just an agent of the past. Obama’s Presidency proved that this criminal network controlled everyone at the top. How else to explain his actions? That realization also fueled Ron Paul’s ascendance.

    It is 2012 now and we are moving to phase two of Schopenhauer’s progression of ideas. Now we can see that the corporate criminal class is working overtime to hold power.

    Obama invades Libya without a squawk from the formerly ‘anti-war’ Left. Obama signs legislation giving the President the power to assassinate American citizens and no one in the criminal media says a word.

    Now they are coming after the Internet. The ‘violently opposed’ segment is now upon us. 2012 is the most dangerous time because a cornered mad dog is the most dangerous. And we are cornering this dog. The establishment, both left and right, would not be so unified in their condemnation of Paul if he and his ideas did not represent a very real threat.

    But here’s the thing: Ron Paul has already won. Though they will try to impose a police state on us to stop him, though they will invade other countries without a peep of protest, though they will assassinate and destroy all who oppose them, we should all realize that phase three of Schopenhauer’s progression is still waiting to occur.

    When the corporate criminal network and their control of the entire planet become self evident, and that is happening right now, the ideas that Ron Paul is espousing will begin to take hold. As we wake up and see what is really happening, we will also see that there is only one way out of this trap. Then Ron Paul and his ideas will begin to become self-evident.

    In four years these ideas will go mainstream. That is a guarantee. Soon it will be vogue to discuss the criminal network and how to get rid of them. They cannot stop what is happening and furthermore - they know it. Their behavior is going to become increasingly bizarre as they are exposed.

    Psychopaths think that they are invisible, that no one sees what they are really doing. But the Internet is ripping that curtain back as the entire psychopathic criminal network can be seen in all of its vast ugliness.

    We need to get rid of it as fast as possible. It is killing all of us.

    http://www.jayweidner.com/RonPaulWillWin.html

    Ron Paul Getting Standing Ovations From Iowa Audiences When He Talks About Bringing The Troops Home...

    Locals Say Ron Paul is a Front-runner for a Reason...

    PS - End the Wars..!
    Good stuff, Jackovesk....

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Santorum???? This country is a freakin embarrassment. It just goes to show democracy is a failed system as long as ignorant primates have access to a ballot box.

    In this case they voted for one of their own.

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    Santorum???? This country is a freakin embarrassment. It just goes to show democracy is a failed system as long as ignorant primates have access to a ballot box.

    In this case they voted for one of their own.
    98% in ... same as GCS1103 reported regarding results (virtually a tie with RP 4% behind in 3rd)

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    The graph of other Republican flavors of the month. Santorum will be the next hill on this graph.
    Bi-polarity in voters sure is interesting when it is graphed out like this.

    Santorum, isn't that Latin for feminine hygiene?

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Come on guys.

    Ron Paul was chosen as the president of 2012 a long time ago. The media controllers know this (as they are orchestrating it) and are using backwards psychology to invigorate us to take as much action and spread as much word as possible. This is all planned.

    Ron Paul will win.

    And then we will realize that anyone who becomes elected loses all of their power the moment they get their job as "presidential puppet" and that the puppeteers have been here, pulling their strings since WW2, WW1, the fall of the Roman empire, etc etc...

    Real knowledge comes from directing attention away from the external world and into one self.
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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Given the placement of Santorum in the Iowa polls it seems relevant to post this excellent article about Voluntary Ignorance.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01...ary-ignorance/

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Iowa is the first preliminary but statistically insignificant. Remember who won last time (gop)???

    I thought not ...

    Huckabee

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by andrewgreen (here)
    I'm not sure that in four years the idea of a criminal cabal will be in mainstream media. I think more people will be awakened to the limitations of the 'democracy' we are in and hopefully talk will move on to how we can change the system rather than the candidates.
    Problem Crisis SOLUTION..... We need a new sytem. We need to change. We need to learn a new way of living.

    NO! We need the ****ing government to get off our damn backs! We need to honor the spirit and ingenuity of every soul on earth. I had the most awful dream last night and it was about moving.... again. Yes, I have moved so many times and if I were a damn nomad I would not mind. But being raised military and through following my heart I have lived in so many places, but I wanted roots finally, and I have them now, so a dream about moving was not a good dream. I awoke and it was not just a dream about moving, it was a dream about fear of moving. I was watching people losing their homes. I was watching people arguing and making life partner decisions because of a home!

    At one time in this country, America, you could NOT, do you hear me, NOT lose your land or your home. You held the title allodially. There was zero property tax, ZERO! You know what that is called? Security and encouragement, that is what that is called. Communities would raise a barn the moment a young couple got married. A barn to keep their food, grain, and horses. They would raise as simple house. Now, the couple just needed to work, and feed themselves and give back to the community as their hearts and talents were blessed.

    Having the threat of your home being taken, your land being taken, NEVER owning anything makes people dance and selfish and greedy. Money MOney MONEY...... never let it out of your sight.... MONEY MONEY MONEY..... it's a rich man's world! Bullsh!t it's OUR WORLD.... We have tricked into these stupid games. We are conned into the NEXT Solution. The only solution we need is to tell the government to get off our damn backs! If my brother is dumb enough to make a house that will fall down on him and kill him and his family so effing what! Who has the right to tell him to not be cheap and stupid? WHO? You.... Me???? We used to call that Darwinism. Clearn the gene pool, NEXT........

    The fact is my brother is NOT stupid, he would build the best damn house he could and do it right. But guess what, how many can build a house by the sweat of their brow? Well, first you need land, it's so scarce now. I mean just look outside, there is no land available anywhere. I mean we could not possibly take and government land we the people own and offer it to some who want to start over now could we? We don't have any run down areas that people might want to start over in if the could OWN IT FOREVER now do we? It's all Bullsh!t. Ok, then the bastard is lucky enough to have some land, but wait.... he needs to pay $20,000.00 for a permit to build his house, have it inspected, and move in.

    A damn piece of paper for some pencil necked geek (sorry all you appraisers I know some of you are studs and studdettes, it's for dramatic purposes) to come by and say ...Yes, you can build this and live here as long as you pay whatever we value your property tax to be!

    We don't need their damn solutions, we don't need there new system. We have tried them. They ... THE GOVERNMENTS have STOLEN our birthrights. We need to stop them, and we need to tell them to sit down and SHUT THE EFFFF UP!
    I here ya (US),

    To all Americans...

    Well 'Get Out There' and 'Legally Fight to get your Country Back' from those who stole it from you..!

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    Default Re: Ron Paul 'Will Win' In The End..!

    I will have more to say if Ron Paul does'nt Win Iowa...

    Due to the GOP counting the Votes in Secret due to 'Anonymous'..!

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