White House Insider (Ulsterman): The Obama Plan

[wolf_rt]

i would say that the similarities between Obama and Hitler are obvious...

or perhaps it would be better to say the similarities between the 3rd Reich and the 4th Reich... i mean Amerika...

[pyrangello]

If every staged speech or almost all of Obama's speech's are done with a teleprompter all our president is doing is delivering the message with a pendulum. My concerns lie at who is writing the speechs and the language, and more importantly these bills that continue to get introduced out of thin air that are changing the laws of this land in a very radical sense setting the stage for the destruction of this lands and peoples liberty and freedom. Who are these people behind the scenes and should be the real question and where did they come from, I've always said 90% of the worlds population are the genuine good people of the earth, it's the 10% of the population that make the news that are the extreme and are now running these united states. The nuts if you will.

[Ilie Pandia]

I'd be surprised if he (and others) would NOT use NLP and hypnotic speaking.

I mean they teach those things even at very cheap "how to sell" courses, and Obama and his "PR Team" surely have access to the latest "science of this". And he is also helped by the propaganda in the mass media and movies and so on.

As someone wrote before these techniques can be also used to heal. So they are not bad in themselves, but how you use them matters.

Anyway after having a look at this is becomes ever more important to be more and more aware, of your body, of your thoughts, of how you feel and so. Get to know yourself, notice shifts in your patterns... in short become more conscious

[Elixer]

I've read through some of the 67 page document and it seems to be rampant with hypnotic manipulations. I'll grab a few random ones and use bold font to emphasize. There might be more blatant ones, but these are the ones I found by simply skimming.

I must say, I read the text to find these, without caring to much for what they are actually saying. I'm sure that what they're saying is accurate, but like I said before, it's nothing new and certainly not terribly shocking to find that Obama is using some NLP.

From page 18 of the document, clear use of NLP:

Obama uses a variety of other statements nobody can disagree with as pacing statements.

From the same page:

However, such pacing statements alone are only a small part of the complex hypnotic trance induction Obama intentionally uses.

It is an assumption that he is using it 'intentionally', but when you read it, you might be inclined to accept it as truth.

Same principle on page 20:

Obama knows clearly that his speeches have faulty logic

They have long sentences with few commas that might all serve to confuse the reader and make them less critical of the material, since they just want to get through it. Here's one from page 21.

The hypnotic analysis is simple, angrily pointing while frowning and making emotionally strong points in speeches send the subconscious message of a person in commanding authority over you ordering you to act a certain way.

They use possibility and then build on that to make a point, using the possibility as certainty. Also, they 'mistakenly'(?) leave parentheses open. The reader is waiting for closure that doesn't come.
Bandler uses this a lot as well. He'll start to say something which leads him into a side-story, which he never really finishes and then fails to come back to the original point as well.
I'm not sure what the effect of this is, but I know it is part of the method. From page 26:

The hand gesture can symbolize anything, and it is possible that Obama’s hand gesture of his thumb and forefinger pressed together symbolizes a “C” for change, money, an infinite (hypnotic) connection between himself and the audience (by pointing with his index finger to the audience repeatedly and then emphasizing a point with his two fingers together, and others.

...)

It just goes on and on.
Maybe the authors don't have wicked intent and are just so engaged with hypnosis that they cannot escape using it in their own language.
Very interesting though, this pot calling kettle black thing.

Also of interest is that there seems to be a sudden rise in interest for this type of subject. There is at least one other thread about NLP.
I think it's quite important because it might help us all become more discerning and help us realize and see through the tricks they are trying to play on us. We'd have to be a little careful though, for even as I'm writing this, I'm wondering whether I myself am not using these types of techniques right now. If I am, it's not on purpose. You can trust me on that

[Humble Janitor]

If Obama can use this technology, then why couldn't any other politician? Where are Derren Brown's examples of this technique in other politicians?

Obviously, TPTW need politicians that are gifted speakers and who knows what they do with those that we elect? Perhaps they are real-life Sith lords? Now I'm just being silly.

[Flash]

All, i MEAN ALL ALL ALL politicians have speech writers that know NLP, if by any chance they don't, you don't know about them much because they could not compete. Saying it is criminal to use it for Obama in politics is like saying that drinking water for politicians is criminal. In this case, they should all go to jail. I must say that lots of salesman, lots of advertisers, most psychologists, know it as well.

Milton Erikson was using NLP not knowing exactly what he was doing that was working. It is by being studied that it was discovered that he had a technique. Just to say that charimastic leaders use some techniques naturally, without even being aware of. When ones knows the techniques, we can decipher easily who uses them for a personal advantage (they are often not that agile and it is misapplied) and who uses it naturally, this is part of its charisma.

The second video was in the category of using NLOP for its own advantage: the maker of the video did.

I was taking a course in non verbal language at the time of Obama's elections with world renown professionals in the field and we analysed Obama's videos at the time. To our greatest surprise, his non verbal behavior `WAS coherent with his speech patterns, meaning he believed in what he said. We did the same with McCain and lots discrepancies were found.

My bet: Obama had the surprise of his life when elected president, he did not know in which nest of real vipers he had fallen. I wonder if the non verbal would still be coherent with the speech patterns by now.

So, please, just wake up AMERICAN and the world: we are being fooled almost 100% of the time with advertisers, salesman, bankers (we did not know about the fragilities of the system), with NLP and many other much more pervasive techniques. NLP is the bottom eaisest stuff to learn about, so just do it and look for something yet more controlling.

PLEASE do not forget that NLP was created for helping people and still does help quite a lot of people

[Elixer]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
As someone wrote before these techniques can be also used to heal.
So they are not bad in themselves, but how you use them matters.

Like Erickson who used it in his therapy sessions.
I would agree with that if it was like the example of a gun: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people".
However, NLP is a hidden manipulation. It is secretive and that makes it much more suspect.

Look at Derren Brown. He is good. He is entertaining. But he is able to make someone shoot someone else, he is able to buy an expensive piece of jewelry and not pay for it. NLP is a method that is designed explicitly to trick people.

What about the Free Masons? They are also known to do good works. Just the fact that they operate in secret, makes them suspect.

[Flash]

Posted by ktlight (here)
Hi, Ria, here you are

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cvfny7itb58

and this is part 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lXJ31G9iXwY

Derren Brown is very good at using a simple technique. when you make use of many senses at the same time that you ask a mental work, (touch the person, make he see visual stuff like follow one and in the air, talk to her - auditory - ask for some mental processing) and there you are, the brain short circuit and the person enters into an hypnotic transe. That simple but needs practice.

PLEASE do not forget that NLP was created for helping people and still does help quite a lot of people

[jackovesk]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I'd be surprised if he (and others) would NOT use NLP and hypnotic speaking.

I mean they teach those things even at very cheap "how to sell" courses, and Obama and his "PR Team" surely have access to the latest "science of this". And he is also helped by the propaganda in the mass media and movies and so on.

Correct Ilie,

I have done NLP and rest assured Obama is not only trained in this process, but he also has been trained in higher level 'Empathetic Language & Delivery' i.e. using certain language delivered through different voice tones...

One of the reasons Obama got the Presidential Gig, was because of his training...

His speeches are always carefully crafted by the best in the business, and delivered in an always calm empathetic monotone, hence why Obama has always preferred to use a 'Teleprompter' which also allows him to use his body language to great effect...

Knowing all this taught me very early on in his Political Career that he was nothing but a 'Fraud'..!

Empathetic 'Doublespeak' sucks the 'Sheeple' in every time..!

If his administration were coming around to someones house to 'Kill Them', Obama would have the 'Sheeple' believing their only coming around for a routine inspection and some 'Milk & Cookies'..! i.e. NDAA..!

He's one SICK - SLICK - BIG DADDY - MURDERING (CRIMINAL) MOFO..! And he's still got the 'Sheeple' fooled..! How 'SICK' is that..!

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi,

I've deleted all the posts on this thread that were off-topic and were getting very very close to personal attacks!

Please post only related to the OP and be respectful towards your fellow Avalonians.

[crested-duck]

http://larouchepac.com/node/21049 he's got to go now!

[BestLion]

Probably not. But who cares and what will that change? He was likely born in Africa.So what he has one year left. Like it will do anything anyway

[trenairio]

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[modwiz]

With so many treasonous members of government, the citizenship of the POTUS is a distraction. He can hang next to the rest of the traitors to the people.

[Snowbird]

Posted by Ria (here)
The first link wont show, this might be because I am UK based. the second gives a lot of accusation and not enough demonstration. that dose not mean there is not foundation. Any one who is anyone, will have training, in delivering speeches, how to dress, how to engage, how to field questions, its a given. It is the MOTIVE behind the man, can we see it, do we know what it is, is he running with the bad boys to catch them out, or is he just one of them.

Click on this link Ria. This is an excellent video.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6bkleuxpvxY

[TargeT]

Posted by Anchor (here)
Incidentally, this came up before on the old forum - I just dug out the reference. My analysis is there and I stand by it. Some cool comments by older members.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14289

Posted by Anchor on the old avalon forum 06-JAN-2009
Interesting...

Amplify your powers of discrimination by invoking the power, light and wisdom of your higher self or if you prefer it the one infinite creator, or whatever spiritual guide you feel in tune with - they will all help if asked.

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Jeez I dont change much do I ... LOL

You know what?

I think I'm starting to disagree, I think we can no longer ignore "little evils" because they are not big enough.

Language is magic.

I can make magic happen, I can walk into a room of people and say one word and gather the attention of atleast 90 % of them (depending on crowd make up)

We need to ADMIT the power that we hold over eachother is rooted in language, we have been so desensitized to our own power that we assume since somoneis just midly trying to manipulate us its ok, because its obvious, its not.

(now, I must say that this is in reguards to Obama's speach & how it was full of basicaly blantant lies.. again, we have to look to intent) when the intent is bad no level of magic (words) used against me are acceptable.

Think of the power we have, we can make a few subtle vibrations in air and **** HAPPENS! I can make this 130lb fanged beast do what ever I want by wiggling some cords in my throat....


It's all about perspective right, I feel that our perspective has been so over saturated that the "magic" is gone from our lives and we forget the power we wield and ignore the powers being wielded on us for the same reason.

[Dawn]

I am very glad I started this thread! The imput here is very valuable. Basically we need to be aware of how we can be easily manipulated! And not just by a 'great orator' such as Obama, but also by others. Perhaps what is really scary is those who have closed off their critical thinking and decision to remain aware by making a firm unshakable decision that someone such as this powerful man "Is Wonderful".

Perhaps the most important thing to see here is that we can keep our conscious awareness alive, or shut it down by adopting a point of view. Once a decision is made that 'something is ________', then we often bring all our resources into play to prove our point of view, instead of being open to discovering what is actually happening.

Humble Janitor: If Obama can use this technology, then why couldn't any other politician? Where are Derren Brown's examples of this technique in other politicians?

Obviously, TPTW need politicians that are gifted speakers and who knows what they do with those that we elect?

Target: Language is magic.

I can make magic happen, I can walk into a room of people and say one word and gather the attention of atleast 90 % of them (depending on crowd make up)

We need to ADMIT the power that we hold over eachother is rooted in language, we have been so desensitized to our own power that we assume since somoneis just midly trying to manipulate us its ok, because its obvious, its not.

This might be right, we are desensitized to our own power, and that of those around us.

[TargeT]

From recently studying trantric philosophy I've learned the concept of regaining sensitivity through depriving that which is desired. it seems counter intuitive, but is that not what free willl is? free will is the only thing I can think of that can counteract "the inevitable" the most random of randoms... it makes a lot of sense to me.... how BORING would it be to be omnipotient.... is this not the best video game concievable? think of the drama we experience, the rollercoaster of emotion, the depraviity of searial murder and ritual kiling, of genocide and rationless hate compared to the hight of joy and happyness, child birth and first steps, of first love and passion and reward of great achievement, of helping others and spreading love.

even our bodies reinforce this fact, we can only experince one thing at a time, how else would Lamaze (sp) work for labor pain, this is discribed as one of the most painful experiences possible yet focused BREATHING can negate it? how powerful is our conciousness, how much are we ignoring, how much are we encouraged to ignore?

question everything

[Sirius White]

I knew this too the moment I saw him becoming popular

Reason being, because he would be saying something actually quite threatening to the sovereignty of the US, and even I, for a split second was like "oh yes, nice that makes sense." I actually had do a DOUBLE take! That never happens to me. At that moment I knew he was using misleading techniques/language, and he was not what he was pretending to be.

Furthermore, any time the mainstream media has billions of dollars invested in the making of a "Messiah" and also, a type of "JFK/Lincoln" figure (for Christ sakes, have you seen an inauguration like that for anybody else??)- I know SOMETHING is wrong.

I watched people march in the streets with joy thinkin they had ended the Tyranny of Bush! I cried myself that night, knowing that I was helpless. That nobody would listen to me anyways. I cried because I knew what was in store for us. That people like Bush were not there to be Tyrants or take over the world, he is not believable enough. I knew everything Bush had done was to "set up" for future leaders/dictators to have more power than ever. He was merely the "painted bad guy" target that made way for people like Obama to appear like "heroes."

I remember on David Wilcock's forum everyone thought he was the reincarnation of Akhenathon and the heralder of the New Age, when I told them exactly what he was the "herald" of I was censored, told that my view conflicted with everyone else on that site.

Basically, the dude is a puppet, and he is making a puppet of you (the people, not anyone here specifically). It was obvious when they were telling me about his past life and everyone treated him like he was some sort of "destined" being that this was a type of programming and conditioning.

These people are smart and think ahead.

This is why I'm worried about Ron Paul. Don't you think they've prepared for this? He would be the ultimate trojan horse.

[music]

Obama has been shown to be a liar over the second "death" of Osama. Recall the ready room shot, with Obama, Clinton and various stuffed shirts and uniforms watching the "fenzied firefight", Obama discussing this, mentioning the "fog of war"? When I saw the first footage of the compound, I said straight away "frenzied firefight my arse - where are the bullet holes in the walls?" The later story changed as lie upon lie was exposed, to the eventual two shots only were fired. So Obama watched these two shots being fired, and called it a firefight? Obama's only role in the US is to allay racial tensions (rioting and discontent by ethnic groups are widely under-reported by MSM, for obvious reasons) until the time is right for whatever "they" have in mind. I feel sorry for him. He is a tool that will be discarded (probably via the tinder-box spark of assassination) when his usefulness is over.

Look at Obama's eyes, in a good facial close up. My opinion is that he himself is severly mind-controlled - the eyes never lie. Clinton also. The cracks are showing in both of them. Watch them carefully during crisis times when they have had little sleep, you can see the lack of functional humanity quite clearly in their faces, even if you refuse to see it in their words and actions.

Also, read this rationally: don't let white guilt cloud your vision. The way for human harmony is walking in Love, not wading through the burden of guilt left to us by earlier generations of proto NWO agendists.