Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Belle]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by 1inMany (here)
oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

I think people may not take kindly to rolling up their sleeves for all the poking that has gone on around here for fear they may be next.

Learned a lesson about people a long time ago when working with someone. She was a control freak who stepped on a lot of toes and hurt a lot of people in the process...something she never noticed. I spoke with my boss about G. and her response was, 'oh, that's just G.' No judgment, just that's the way she is. Now I could have chosen to make a big deal over it and created all kinds of havoc, arguments and hurt feelings. Instead I chose to accept G for being G and ignored the posturing and posing. Once I got past the annoying part, she became a friend and soon I found myself telling someone else, 'oh, that's just G.'

And 9eagle9 is just...well...just 9eagle9. She is what she is and does what she does. There's a lot of information worth thinking about in what she says...how she says it is her choice. How one responds or not is their personal choice.

[Cottage Rose]

= @ Triola In Lourdes loop +

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4V2H_qg01xY

[ulli]

Posted by Belle (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by 1inMany (here)
oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

I think people may not take kindly to rolling up their sleeves for all the poking that has gone on around here for fear they may be next.

Learned a lesson about people a long time ago when working with someone. She was a control freak who stepped on a lot of toes and hurt a lot of people in the process...something she never noticed. I spoke with my boss about G. and her response was, 'oh, that's just G.' No judgment, just that's the way she is. Now I could have chosen to make a big deal over it and created all kinds of havoc, arguments and hurt feelings. Instead I chose to accept G for being G and ignored the posturing and posing. Once I got past the annoying part, she became a friend and soon I found myself telling someone else, 'oh, that's just G.'

And 9eagle9 is just...well...just 9eagle9. She is what she is and does what she does. There's a lot of information worth thinking about in what she says...how she says it is her choice. How one responds or not is their personal choice.

Good observation. Once one can say 'Oh, that's just so and so', it means one has moved past the point where one can have one's buttons pressed.

I've always been curious about people and what motivates them. Finally I learnt that more important than other people's motives is understanding my own.
That meant defining my own agenda in life.
Why am I here, spending so much time on this forum?
When I started to examine my own motives I found that there are quite a few layers, as well as surprises.
9eagle9 demonstrated today that we can really never quite know WHO we really are.
I could resonate with that, as my own journey is still not finished.
I am finding that as this thread grows so is my attachment to it, and my concern to keeping it alive and well.
That means when there is a sudden energy change that causes several members to drop away I want to know where such an energy is coming from and will question the person who is channeling it. What are their motives? Part of me becomes paranoid and says they want to destroy this thread.
Then I remember I could be projecting that from my lower self.
I consciously switch to give the person the benefit of the doubt.
And halfway through there is another energy change...back towards harmony.
So you are right about pointing out the importance of personal choice.
I thank you for that.
From moment to moment we are making choices.

[Cottage Rose]

Posted by ulli (here)
Good observation. Once one can say 'Oh, that's just so and so', it means one has moved past the point where one can have one's buttons pressed.

I've always been curious about people and what motivates them. Finally I learnt that more important than other people's motives is understanding my own.
That meant defining my own agenda in life.
Why am I here, spending so much time on this forum?
When I started to examine my own motives I found that there are quite a few layers, as well as surprises.
9eagle9 demonstrated today that we can really never quite know WHO we really are.
I could resonate with that, as my own journey is still not finished.
I am finding that as this thread grows so is my attachment to it, and my concern to keeping it alive and well.
That means when there is a sudden energy change that causes several members to drop away I want to know where such an energy is coming from and will question the person who is channeling it. What are their motives? Part of me becomes paranoid and says they want to destroy this thread.
Then I remember I could be projecting that from my lower self.
I consciously switch to give the person the benefit of the doubt.
And halfway through there is another energy change...back towards harmony.
So you are right about pointing out the importance of personal choice.
I thank you for that.
From moment to moment we are making choices.

Your handling of this thread is impeccable, Ulli.

[9eagle9]

Well I will tell you what. I had this response in mind to EagleSpirt which about his jockey friend. Maybe it shows a point of motivation ..but also expression.

To Eagle Spirit.

Thank you for sharing that. I don’t often hear stories about the horse kin. She sounds like a typical horse person, totem, energy and literally. Not that there are vast amounts of them to be regarded as typical but…A lot of women that involve themselves in the dangerous end of horses (not the back end…yeee) were Amazons in a past life. And all that that implies. They don’t suffer fools very easily.
Because..you can’t be a fool around a horse.

Because it’s not a desk job, or academic or a job where you can correct the mess when your attention lapses. Very spiritual though--will to power.

It’s a medium that will kill you if you are not very present.

A horse can kill you, damage people around you, and itself in aheartbeat. Much horse work is invested in keeping other's safe .A lot of internal fortitude is required. If you meet a horse person and they are alive and relatively unscathed those are persons who know what they are doing. Jockeys are all about Self management. They are tested constantly, they have tremendous inner will because physical size doesn’t cut it with a horse.

They reflect the medium they work in. Powerful, unconditioned, challenging--challenged, free, intense, and a horse always gets the last word one way or the other. They are forgiving animals with big generous hearts –especially thoroughbreds but Intense ,intense energies. But they test and test and test and challenge and that is what tempers the rider. Those challenges. I would have loved to known if she was fire horse in Chinese astrology.

Blunt, direct. You don't time to write flowery love calls when a horse is spinning it's hindquarters into you. "Oh please my dear, I dont want to hurt your feelings but that horse is about to trample you."

And …sometimes people bore them . After that sort of raw intensity and power that one is naviagating...people are sorta tame. So they rattle the cage to see what’s inside. Do you think they will find that inside a person?

They do --so why isn't the person showing it. They start challenging it to come out. If you are ignored by a horse person...it means they don't see that potential for power in you.

People may not know this anymore because we have don’t have associations with horses like we did before automobiles and trains came along. Where they weren’t casual pets but you worked together with them day in and out. Jockeying isn't a common profession. It doesn't form 'common' people.

They have to be that way to work in that medium. A horse will not accept anything less, especially a eventing horse. Especially race horses. Their lives depend on that sort of person navigating them. It’s not a program, that can be re-booted if something goes wrong. You have to make instant, controlled power decision It becomes automatic.. Raw reality flying up in your face at 40 miles an hour and the only thing that keeps you there is your balance. You’re literally flying on a horse dangling by the balls of your feet. And that’s it. Balance .They have to balanced . And they are --on and off the ground.

That takes a person of a rare character. Everytime I jump up on a off track horse, I think of a jockey . Their heart has to match the power of the horse. Their mind has to be as quick as those feet. And be aware always aware of people who don’t have that sort of power (their radar) that is in their sphere. The bystander can get hurt.

For myself I know how many times a day I have to say to someone, Do not stand behnd that horse.

Of course I’m just being mean. After saying it dozen times I'm sure I sound mean.

Why am I saying it?

Horse people don’t suffer fools very gracefully.

Like horses they have a hard time seeing the social conditioning in others, the lack of being present, and don’t feel the need to accommodate it. They don't see it. You don’t accommodate an animal that big--two wills have to be evenly matched. Blend powers. A person walks from the horse expecting everyone is powerful and can take that intensity .In spite of it all a horse enjoys that battle of the wills. The jockey has to enjoy it too.

It’s not personal. You can't make it personal with a horse, they'll walk all over you.

Horses don’t hurt people because of personal reasons.

It’s an impersonal universe.

Horses know that.

[Cottage Rose]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HTjuNMcC_o0

[modwiz]

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HTjuNMcC_o0

LOL. Hiss! Meow!

[9eagle9]

Its a means to seperate my text from the quoted text....being aware of this red ink button I'll choose another color next time.

I feel okay, shifting energies are just what's happening now.

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?

much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

[ulli]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Its a means to seperate my text from the quoted text....being aware of this red ink button I'll choose another color next time.

I feel okay, shifting energies are just what's happening now.

I agree..the thought occurred to me as well.
Purple would have been a better choice.
Red makes "people" see red.
Then you feel the estrangement and become aware of people as "others", or "them".

Glad you felt the energy shift, too.

[modwiz]

It is a very good and adult village here. Happy to be a regular part of it. Pardon me while I tidy up a bit.


(I love this gif)

[Guest]

This thread moves so fast.

Made a fresh squash soup today put lots of goodies in it -yummy.

Have a very hot fire burning in the wood stove.

Watching the moon rise behind the mountains on a very clear night.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Mysticknowflake]

I am sitting on my sofa, lap top in my lap. It is 10:29 as I type this. I am on the verge of yawning, LOL tired, been up since 6 am.

[benevolentcrow]

Warm cozy fire burning here with a cabbage, mushroom, onion, zucchini with tofu over wild rice, life is pleasant in our Cozinest Hollow!

[Guest]

When I was 3 years old I almost drown. My neighbors had a pool and one day I went through the side gate of their backyard. I was playing and running around the pool slipped and fell into it. I remember fighting for breath and sinking and slipping away the next moment someone grabbed my arm and pulled me to the surface. I was deathly afraid of water and pools until I learned to swim -then no-one could keep me away from water. I made it my own science out of watching water -going to the beach and sitting on the shores watching the waves, tides, currents, riptides and the directions of winds.

My house burned down when I was 7 years old. I narrowly escaped that too. The firemen couldn't put the fire out because it was too hot and the winds were too high -they let it burn to the ground.

During the San Diego County fire storm of 2007, just when it started I was up at some friends house in San Bernadino County for a visit. I didn't know a large brush fire had started -I looked at my friends and said, "Time for me to go, I need to go home." Just as I drove into North County, many of the hills were on fire -I thought here we go again another fire storm. I raced home before they closed the freeways and roads. The fire raged on for 4 or 5 days thousands were evacuated -where I lived we were on voluntary evac. I had my 90 year old Grandmother and did not want to evacuate her; she was fragile and moving her into another envirronment might have caused her harm. If the winds blowing around (40-50 miles an hour) didn't change direction (they were blowing due west), we were going to have to leave. So I would check the direction of the wind every few minutes; after about a half hour it changed direction (blowing due North) and quieted. The fire headed into an unpopulated area and burned out over night.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Mike]

here and now nodding off and feeling a little foggy mentally.

happens to me when i spend too much time in front of a laptop. that damn electrical pollution. g'night to all.

[Carmody]

Posted by Cottage Rose (here)
= @ Triola In Lourdes loop +

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4V2H_qg01xY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B2ja2AQOgQU

"I heard you cry out, tell me, what did you encounter?"

"I had a dream, about a man. He is not from our world. He came down from the sky and spoke to me. He said, "We are from the Third Planet.""

"Go on."

He said, "We come from.... Earth."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3Seo9QPlcJM

"Kind of hard to imagine nothing. no ...thing. No.. me, no... you, no ....nothing"

[write4change]

Much of what 9 eagle says about horses I agree with but I think I have basic differences. Everything I do with horses is personal. One of the things I love about Seabiscuit is that this is the story of four broken people in a very broken time in America. And the end of the story of the story is very poignant--they did not take a broken horse and heal him but they all healed each other. Of all the famous horse stories in the world and I think I have all of them--if not, I made the effort--Seabiscuit is my favorite. Nothing about Seabiscuit is perfect--he has duck feet--he is 15.2 hands and War Admiral is 18 hands. Even watching the real race it is hard to believe my eyes. How fast Seabiscuit is churning those legs and the will power to do it. War Admiral has a stride and smoothness and stamina that should have killed Seabiscuit.

Maxx's first horse was a paint we named Picasso. She practically slept with him. She absolutely adored him. She spoiled him rotten. He loved Coke and she would pour it out of a can for him. The problem became he would come to dead halt if he saw one on the fence or something. When she started, there was nothing he would not do for her. He would hold his head up and to the side to keep her on. Her trainer Colonel Russell was the last calvary officer of horses in the United States. He took the Bronze in the 52 Olympics. He was 76 and he recognized her potential but it killed him that his last student was a girl. She rode every horse in his barn before he took her on. He gave her a lot of guff. He loathed a refuse out. He would rather you plow the horse thru. Picasso was very fast and he had perfect form. I have tons of pictures of him over jumps and his form is always perfect. But he was 15.2 and his top jump was going to be 4 feet. He would not exert himself or he knew himself so well this was it. Over 4 feet and he would just refuse out.

So we went to the Dallas track and got a horse out of a claiming race. We watched him a bunch of times. He was sired by the horse of the year 1971--can't remember the name right now. He was known for either winning like an antelope or loosing like a donkey. If you watched him he would walk into the ring before the line up and size up the other horses. It was like he know he could win so he was all out. If he thought it was not a possiblity he could not be bothered and nor matter what the jockey did would come in dead last. The owners apparently did not think anyone would claim him with such mixed results and he was not quite four years old. They put him in a 5000 claiming race and we bought him. They offered us double but this was Maxx's and my manifestation from the universe. He was all we could afford and he was young, with high potential, very intelligent and bored. He was 17.2 hands and we named him My T Maxx and Maxx called him Teddy, he was her big Teddy Bear. We sent him to Corpus Christi for six weeks of jumper training. She spent a long weekend with him learning how to ride him without Russell. It is a big step for a 12 year old to go from 15.2 to 17.2 and they are totally different types of horses--a paint a quarter horse and Teddy a thoughbred.

Maxx soon found she could not ride both of them, the change was too much for her. Picasso went wild with jealousy. Russell had three barns. First we had them next to each other Picasso practically busted the door the first time she took Teddy out and left him. We moved Teddy to the furthest barn away and tried not to let him know Maxx was riding Teddy. We leased Piccasso out to Russell's nephew who could not do much with him much to Russell's disgust. In jumping all credit goes to the horse not the rider so it proved Maxx could ride and Picasso did not just carry her. Their first major horse show, and the largest in Texas, the Christmas horse show of 94, Maxx was 12 and Teddy 3. The youngest horse and the youngest rider and they placed 8th which thrilled all of us.

That first horse show before Maxx rode him in her class, I had a professional ride him to try and tone him down. Still have the videos. Teddy rode his best for Maxx always and did not do well for the professional. It was at this show with the lights, music, and applause that Teddy got his ahah moment. You could see the light in his eyes. This is show jumping. This is what this is all about. I am not a race horse--I am a show horse and I love it.

I have seen some professional women riders with big warmbloods who can get up and over but they know that big body of theirs is coming down fast. And they so want to win and they soon learn what knocking the rail down does. I have seen these big warm bloods teach them selves to throw their hind legs side ways as they go over so as not to touch that bar. First, time I saw it I was amazed. I have been a horse handler for several Olympic events and I have strong feelings about the care and training of horses.

In the Suel Olympics, it was the first time they had a jump that was essentially a ring. It was a big surprise and there was no rules against it. But most of the horses had never trained jumping thru something with something over their head. Over 50% of the horses refused out. Most of the women made it thru because women ride by asking and it partnership. Men used strength and often spurs. Don't get me started on spurs. The horses like Teddy who are always in partnership will go okay if you say I can do this--I believe you---and they will go for it. But for those who see the horse as a machine that you press here to go--they go **** you --- I am not risking my life for you. Horse and rider in partnership get what they are risking. It is all too easy to become Christopher Reeves who had his accident that broke his neck in April of 95. My daughter died in October of 95.

I never rode English nor jumped until after Maxx's death. I had a dear friend who is much like eagle9 who taught me. We rode everyday at lunch. She was once an Olympic quality rider and went all the way but could not afford nor did she have her own horse. She also took a brutal spill and broke her collar bone among others. She had not ridden in decade when we met. She was a meticulous rider and teacher. One day she reached over whumped my hands with her crop. She said something to the effect that she was tired of telling me the same thing and my not paying real attention and putting it into practice. I am 50 years old. I am like---I have to sit with this a while. And I realized that she was the teacher I needed to learn what I wanted at that time of my life. Everyone else would have handled me with kid gloves, let me go on my crying jags, etc. But not her. It was do or do not. I would not be here today without that experience. It was tough but it was oh so worth it.

I have recognized since I first met 9eagle9, that she will always bring that quality to her community and for me I say sign me up. But my horses are personal sentient beings I share with. My friend loved them but she did not feel them like I did and do. Eagle and I would have to ride together to see how that works in reality for us. Now I do not know nor do I care. But I trust the winds of her intuition. Yet, they are her winds and I may or may not be lifted by them. I may have to find my own air current and we will soar maybe not side by side but within our sight and that is good enough.

[Lisab]

Bore da. That's welsh for good morning! Great horse stories. Loved reading that write4change. Off to work now sees y'all later! X

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Lisab (here)
Bore da. That's welsh for good morning! Great horse stories. Loved reading that write4change. Off to work now sees y'all later! X

Bore da Lisa



It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life
For me
And I'm feeling good

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSK9kkM7GL4

Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know


I saved this one from drowning. You can see the bottom two wings still stuck to the stone. I ♥ dragonflies!




Totem:- As a creature of the wind, the dragonfly totem represents change. It's iridescent wings are incredibly sensitive to the slightest breeze, and so we are reminded to heed where the proverbial wind blows.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Dig (here)
"Trunk Monkey"

Had to look that up. Glad I did


The original concept of a "Trunk Monkey" was a small stuffed animal placed in the trunk of a vehicle which came alive and jumped from side to side to help distribute weight during "spirited driving maneuvers".
The Trunk Monkey is also portrayed as an effective theft deterrent, as seen in one commercial where the chimpanzee knocks out a would-be car thief and throws him off a bridge. The chimpanzee also administers first aid to the driver after an accident. In addition, its security abilities are effective during a driver's daughter's first date or an alien invasion.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y

Bless you Dig!!!!!!!!!!!!