Here and Now...What's Happening?

[9eagle9]

The media is our baby. We dont' like the truth, they have found, and no one will stay in business long from selling what others won't buy. I'm sure the media understands us better than anyone. They certainly offer enough media that people self identify with. People want life to be easier so most advertising is about how this, that or the other will make your life easier. Sham-wow.

Watching the 'feel good' story of the year is standard catch phrase now.

We start being alignment with truth, the media will be forced to change.

When we finally say, Okay we've had it with ables, stories, BS and realize that Shamwow doens't really make life easier.....they have to change or die.

The media just another reflection of us.

What do we seek in media? And there's the answer.

We like to think it's controlled by some heavy duty hidden hamfist somewhere, and to a certain extent that is true....but when truth becomes becomes popular with people that media will find a way to get out from the under the hamfist.

[PurpleLama]

Whereas that last was a bit o' metaphor, the truth of it is a little more than the average truth. It contains the key, the key of accepting self as the creator accepts self, unconditional acceptance that is needed to complete the trials of shadow work. See? Unconditional love of what we are in truth, love not in spite of flaw, but because of it. Reach deep inside, and say with reverence That's Cool. We can go with that, and be, just be, what we really are. Warts and all, it's the greatest thing.

[modwiz]

I had a dream the other day. I almost never sleep at night. I remember being in my house/abode. It was not like my 3 story farm house, I was in a one room space, equivalent to roughly the size of my tent. 12x13. Something, like a tremor made all of the walls fall down. They fell out. The ceiling is not accounted for. I do remember trying to get the walls to stand up again by putting hinges at the corners, as the walls were still all intact. They had all fallen outward, very neatly. I do not remember being successful putting them back up. The dream ended, or I woke up, with me standing in the middle of my floor with all of the walls lying outward and me being confused as to whether it was an earthquake or tsunami that had blown the walls out.

Interesting dream, but I do recall having a sense of some challenging, but not fearful or life threatening, times being portended, at least as a possibility.

[9eagle9]

They do make a difference...for those beginning tarot.. The Rider-Waite deck is fashioned from the originals and their symbology that become imbedded in our psyche over the years. The new ones, being new, we don't have that eye to psyche recognition ....because theiy're new. Back then there wasnt a Cat or Vampire Tarot there was 'the ' Tarot. We don't recognize thosethrough use, we have to learn the new language and new symbology by memorizing them. So the originals will activate recall eventually and the new ones, you have to 'learn'.

Tarot reading, knowing the cards, is an act of recall. If you take out the 3 of swords in a Rider Waite you are going to know without being told what that card means . You won't have to look at the book. In a modern deck you may not know because the symbology has been re-arranged to less eye to psyche provocative.

Some people like Celtic decks or Druidic decks because of this recall--they composed around very old cultural specific symbols.

The really trendy ones are based in modern newly created trends and languages ,so are not so to work with intially. TThey have to be memorized from the start.

The original tarots or those closest to them, like Universal Tarot, have the original roles or archetypes of life symbology in them still . And then there are infiite ways one sees how these roles interact and effect us through the layout. Every story of man can be shown there. The decks represent the roles archetypes influencing a person at any given time. So while they don't tell the future persay (being as they are a peice of glossy cardboard) they do let us know what sort influences are at play NOW that can affect a future outcome. That's why I prefer two paths layouts.

Like Astrid noted, once you have removed a lot of archetypical stories, roles things of that nature from your inner landscapeyou will become less interested in tarot. There's very little left for it to work with and then you just end with things you already knew anyway.

The companion books are also expressed very much in personal times. Like they may say "This card indicates you are being selfish" . That's very personal, and ther's nothing really personal about all this, its just working in archetypes and roles everyone shares until you work through them...and there's several ways to intepret what selfish is we have to really know what selfish means or be misled. Sefish is not alway conceited or intentional act. Selfish can be interchangeable with withdrawn.

I'd not worry about the energy on the cards, even the new decks have someone's energies on them..lol.

When I'm periodically moved to do tarot, I work it with my higherself so I don't worry about things like that. Smuding the decks should suffice.

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Wondering about tarot cards in general. I know there are decks with different pictures, types of art, illustrations or whatever you call them, but do these make any difference? I would love to have some, and I'd like to pick some that aren't full of someone's energy already...can you clean them with sage or something?

Much love,

[9eagle9]

Not enough thank buttons in the world for this one.

That my purple friend is what humility really is, isn't it? Literally just being YOUR-self.

Just Allowing creator to work through you without judging it or putting conditions on it. Other's might...because they think humility is modesty, and being a floor mat. When Creator works through us we are the furthest thing from floor mat.

Oh....the humility. I wonder about that word because we know how many people have been chastised or rather, humiliated,for allowing Creator to work through them.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Whereas that last was a bit o' metaphor, the truth of it is a little more than the average truth. It contains the key, the key of accepting self as the creator accepts self, unconditional acceptance that is needed to complete the trials of shadow work. See? Unconditional love of what we are in truth, love not in spite of flaw, but because of it. Reach deep inside, and say with reverence That's Cool. We can go with that, and be, just be, what we really are. Warts and all, it's the greatest thing.

[PurpleLama]

True. Language fails in the face of Mystery.

[ulli]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Not enough thank buttons in the world for this one.

That my purple friend is what humility really is, isn't it? Literally just being YOUR-self.

Just Allowing creator to work through you without judging it or putting conditions on it. Other's might...because they think humility is modesty, and being a floor mat. When Creator works through us we are the furthest thing from floor mat.

Oh....the humility. I wonder about that word because we know how many people have been chastised or rather, humiliated,for allowing Creator to work through them.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Whereas that last was a bit o' metaphor, the truth of it is a little more than the average truth. It contains the key, the key of accepting self as the creator accepts self, unconditional acceptance that is needed to complete the trials of shadow work. See? Unconditional love of what we are in truth, love not in spite of flaw, but because of it. Reach deep inside, and say with reverence That's Cool. We can go with that, and be, just be, what we really are. Warts and all, it's the greatest thing.

...as long as it's really Creator, and not some MKUltra handler...then all is well.
By what standard would one be able to tell the difference?

I think that's where it all hinges...that questioning should never stop.
Which in my case brings it all back to morality....there is always that danger that one might dismiss morality totally and say it's Creator's will.
I really don't believe there can be such easy answers.

[1inMany]

Will be back in an hour or so (?). Will catch up on Here and Now. Headed out to meeting with school. I need a shield around me, actually all three of us - daughter and hubby going also. Very negative environment. This is a cya meeting called by the school, for the school, masked as....how to help my daughter so that she can re-enter public school.

Have strategically placed a double point clear crystal in my cleavage hoping the energy will be channeled straight into my heart area. Okay, I will laugh about that later, but for now I'm desperate.

Please send loving thoughts to those members in attendance.

Love you all very much,

p.s. jet spoke to me this morning, grabbed it on the way out the door...

[9eagle9]

The standard is inside. One has to learn to differentiate what the mind does and creation does.

Questioning is fine , necessary, but we know that it yanks people's chains...In questioning we have to prepared and accepting that there will conflict present.

It's how long we question too. If questioning provides a fast easy answer....its great. If it ties up forever, in a loop of questioning...different matter. The mind has gotten in there and started the runaway train to tie you up on the tracks of indecision.

Mind talks .Blah blah blah creating fearful scenarios or bringing up crap from the past, "this is the way it's always been done".

Knowing offers a solution. We can accept it....or we can go back to the mind and deny it. Knowing offers simple solutions. The simplest solution. It may not be a rational one but it's the simplest one.

When I ran out of gas yesterday, my mind wants to say. "Get out and walk home, get the gas can, walk back. That's the way we always do it."

NO ..way! Worse the moment I get out of that truck and start walking...I become a hypocrite. Blathering on about creation, miracles and the mind but not walking it myself.

Knowing says, put the truck in 4wd and start it again.

Mind says, "Oh your crazy. 4wd uses more gas. More of the gas she doesn't have. The car didn't start a minute ago it won't start now.

The simplest thing for me is just just do is just drive home, I have to allow the creation of that circumstance by refusing the mind.

Knowing just moved my hand to that lever and beyond all physical odds, I just put it in 4wd and drove home. On fumes, on miracles who knows. That I'm not going to question.

So later when the back end of the truck starts to wobble my mind starts in questioning. The U joint? The tie rods? Oh forget all that it doesn't matter, that wobble actually means 1200 dollars in repairs. Oh but you don't have 1200 dollars, do you? Fear fear fear. How you going to get to work? didn't you start a new contract? and wow you'll have to tell those people you can't make it...awww. I think it's time to PANIC. "

The knowing says, It's very simple.

A five dollar fix. If I waited long enough it would corrected self on it's own.

Allowing our knowing, our creation put things back to right, not makes things worse for us so that's one indicator. They're small miracles, I didn't cure the world but I won't be able to do that if I can't accept small miracles without the mind flogging them to death for myself.

If Creator is working through you its easy to tell the difference-- you don't even have to question. Just refuse the mind if the solution is not being provided after questioning. So even that moral quandry disappears. Creation is THE miracle of knowing without doubt. One doesn't doubt even if other's are doubting them. If you can get out of mind doubt, there's not another doubtful thing out there that can effect you.

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Not enough thank buttons in the world for this one.

That my purple friend is what humility really is, isn't it? Literally just being YOUR-self.

Just Allowing creator to work through you without judging it or putting conditions on it. Other's might...because they think humility is modesty, and being a floor mat. When Creator works through us we are the furthest thing from floor mat.

Knowing is how miracles are created. In small ways at first. The two miracles I pulled my hat yesterday didn't cure the world but they nonetheless happened....to me.

Oh....the humility. I wonder about that word because we know how many people have been chastised or rather, humiliated,for allowing Creator to work through them.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Whereas that last was a bit o' metaphor, the truth of it is a little more than the average truth. It contains the key, the key of accepting self as the creator accepts self, unconditional acceptance that is needed to complete the trials of shadow work. See? Unconditional love of what we are in truth, love not in spite of flaw, but because of it. Reach deep inside, and say with reverence That's Cool. We can go with that, and be, just be, what we really are. Warts and all, it's the greatest thing.

...as long as it's really Creator, and not some MKUltra handler...then all is well.
By what standard would one be able to tell the difference?

I think that's where it all hinges...that questioning should never stop.
Which in my case brings it all back to morality....there is always that danger that one might dismiss morality totally and say it's Creator's will.
I really don't believe there can be such easy answers.

[Carmody]

Posted by ulli (here)
The only noise I'm hearing is the river, which is less loud than usual as we haven't had much rain lately.
To see Turrialba I would have to get in the car and either drive up the dirt road behind us, or go into the village as our view here in the valley is blocked.
They say you can see the red shine above the crater...and the temperature in there is now already 1000 C.
We are going to the beach this morning so have even less chance of seeing any spectacle...at least we have just gotten Internet there so I can get the news online.
Don't worry about me, I live far enough away....
Right next to Turrialba is another volcano, called Irazu, which last erupted in 1963, on the day that JFK was here on a visit. The weird part was that it happened right at the moment that he visited the eastern part of San Jose and gave a talk in a public park, from where he could see the top of the mountain.
That made me connect the dots between consciousness and outer events...JFK's consciousness level had to have had the equivalent of millions....and one glance from him in that direction, wondering, hey, wouldn't it be cool if that blew right now?.. And voila!

A week after I had that idea there was a massive quake here, 6.3.... and as we are standing outside the house in our nighties, trembling I asked my husband so what caused this one? And he told me don't you remember? There is a summit right now, at the Herradura Hotel...all the leaders of Latin America, plus the King and Queen of Spain. Whoa, confirmation...
Next day we heard the gossip grape vine that the Queen of Spain was seen outside her hotel room in her nightie, all freaked out, too....

IMO and IME, Yes, consciousness can shape and direct energies. Knowing that and acting within it as a point of origin can enable, yes. The danger is ego creeping into create the feeling of empowerment, as opposed to responsibility. Responsibility, over time... can then become seasoned experience tempered with compassion. Instead of passion, which the ego would have brought, instead. The 'balance' brings the compassion.

[Carmody]

Posted by 1inMany (here)

Have strategically placed a double point clear crystal in my cleavage hoping the energy will be channeled straight into my heart area. Okay, I will laugh about that later, but for now I'm desperate.

The body has no eyes, no ears.... and no processing (mind brain type) capacity, per se. the body reacts to the conscious or mind (thinking, pondering) interpretation of data..but at the instinctual and emotional connection level. At the hindbrain level. Note that we 'feel' emotions, for long periods of time, like different flavors of lighting or color, or pressure/temp...ie... long term situations, not fleeting ones.

The body has the processing power of the fast processing mind, which is the control or steering wheel that the spiritual inhabitant uses and connects with, in many ways. but we come up into it, through the dimensional doorway which began in our youth. An evolved/built/grown harmonic structure (3d antenna/web/frameworks of the mind) that agrees with our dimensional energizes, and we shaped this path, through the hindbrain, starting before birth.

When our consciousness (mind) is agitated, this sends 'prepare for action' signals to the blind and deaf body....so it can be 'at the ready' and thus..the body inserts itself into our data processing system 'loop' (input output) as a 'first to analyze any and all data' ----with respect to fight or flight basics.


To calm the body so it does not interfere, is the key point. to know the above consciously and continually, can help calm agitation and stress. to understand that it truly is just body response to things it cannot see or hear.

Our problem comes with respect to the body being on guard and being the 'first responder' to all incoming and outgoing dimensionally (3d and otherwise) connected data. This can cause is to 'realize our fears'...or to project them into the people who are involved in those situations.

This goes back to the idea that the complex-driven avatar system of soul inclusion is all about learning to drive a duality state of existence. This may come in the form of learning these things here, in a "rubber baby buggy bumper" world or reality system, in order to not project those mistakes--elsewhere. To not project those mistakes.. in a different world (non 3d) where there are no boundaries and the limits and controls within the energy called a being...is/are the sole arbiter of separation and existence as a 'being'. Ie, as a complex 'knot' of flowing energy, in an energy universe or dimensional space, self control and awareness of such becomes and is the key component of existence and continued existence. Thus... to be here in the 3d world and learn such things.

Essentially, stress arises out of the body as the first responder...interpreting data in fight or flight mode, thus the mind seeing this as a problem (the data has been colored)..and then projecting energies into the situation that do not exist (but are feared) that can alter the situation in an untoward manner...and thus the fears end up being realized or 'created' through this aspect of reality creation as a knowledge (feedback reinforcement)....not being fully known or understood by the given avatar and occupant of said avatar. the key point, again, is knowing that this interface with the body can and does create energetic situations,even though the conscious mind is desiring other outcomes and directions. That this 'feeling driven' machine from below can and does create our worldly foibles and issues.

I find that the continual conscious understanding that the 'body' is simply doing it's job to protect the box we inhabit, ie the body..and doing this through inherent and learned patterns derived from life experience..that this understanding leads to the idea of calming the body and getting it out of the way, but in a realistic and lasting manner. A combination of separating the body from the inhabitant so it can be seen more clearly and then re-integrating with the body in a manner that has the inhabitant with conscious 'hands' on the controls.

For example, if one studies the roots of and actual actions required for a Buddhist monk to become a more learned being..they will find that this, combined with 3d reality manipulation..is a notable part of the Buddhist package of knowledge and....capacity. (with respect to personal evolution)

Note that Viral just woke Ulli up from a dead sleep. Interesting, no? simple recall of such things does help change the framing of learned patterns from our 3d oriented youth. These sort of things as commonplace understanding and experience....they can drastically change moment to moment orientation ---and thus life results.

It seems our newer young ones are not coming in with such delays in their patterns of personal evolution as duality beings. faster and faster......

This should get interesting, regarding the speed, paths and evolution of their life patterns.

[eaglespirit]

Thank You, Carmody for prior post...
for me, personally...this area of fight or flight was so strong because of my own personal belligerence and stubbornness and fierce independence(primarily fueled by anger) that the only thing for me that garnered a calming of what you speak of was intense solar meditation...many ways to get there...but this was soooooo integral in my own calming and moving forward and then helping others as the changes become more prevalent all around!

[astrid]

Yes I bought the original tarot deck for exactly that
reason , I knew the symbology being so old would
be somewhere in my knowingness . Also I'm a lazy
Libran , why walk when you can fly ?? Bugger that
as us Aussie's say . Which links into 9's post - agreed
110 % , when you get out of the mind so many things
open up. Worried about mind control? Call me an idealist
but that stuff has a glass ceiling . Stay out of fear , go
direct and to the highest possible source you can reach
(whose energy sig is unmistakable) and you can't go
wrong . It actually becomes so simple that most don't
believe it , so you have to make it all wordy and flesh
it out again when trying to teach it .
Waking up sheep , welll here's the thing , not everyone
is going to wake up so dont sweat it . Take the path of
least resistance and save your energy for what you can
Influence . Again simple, and again most keep pushing
and pushing ****e up a hill when when you can just draw
a bag around it and some wings and viola, LOL
It's all a dream the whole lot of it , dont like it
then dream one you do .

[jorr lundstrom]

I really like this card.

[astrid]

And I had all these people try to tell me to stay away
from the Waite deck as it was too "dark" LOL
That talk always makes me more interested
someone put a charge on it at some stage way
back when and people keep repeating the
mythology without even knowing why .
Most likely because its the one with the most
truth and least fluff that speaks to tbe whole self.
And saying something is "dark " tells me that it may
allow one to acess and integrate ones shadows-
which is a spiritual must do if you are
serious about growing up.
i love pretty pictures too I'm a Libran. At one stage
everything had to be so god dam beautiful in my
world that I was paralysed. Thankfully I have
thrown that attachment . Astrology is great for
pointing out the chains that bind you .

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Here's a link to the Law of One search engine. I searched for 'tarot,' to bring up the sessions that discuss the tarot. I haven't read this in a while, but the recent 'here and now' posts made me think of it. Worth a look:

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php...umeric_order=1

[dan33]

[QUOTE=dan33;401536]

Posted by Nora (here)
This thread moves so fast.
Love

Nora

we are all related

This is not a Thread, is a Highway.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I had a wild dream sequence last night, as well. I ended up catching a ride home on a , but the image came back as a redneck Jesus giving me a ride home in his old camero, and the car had some very interesting controls, ostensibly to navigate back past the coming wave.

Lots of bits and pieces of other dimensional fun, and the first part did include you, ,mod, and carmody as well, calz. The "trunks" hairdo was unmistakable! And carmody looked the same as he had in other dreams, and the resemblance to his photo is likewise unmistakable.

One part towards the middle of the sequence had a bunch of people living on these houseboats all tied together with these floating platforms like rafts in between. Because of what was happening, I had told the people on a particular boat to untie themselves and leave before something was coming, and left they did, with me missing the rendezvous.

I wound up making my own way, ending up in space far far away and hitching a ride back with redneck jesus. He is the coolest jesus of all, way better than buddy christ, or baby jesus, even. Redneck jesus will be glad to drink a beer with you, and there is a lot to be said about that.

Rock on, Redneck Jesus!

[astrid]

Interesting thanks playdo
From that above link ...

76.9 Questioner: Is there, in Ra’s opinion, any present day value for the use of the tarot as an aid in the evolutionary process?
Ra: I am Ra. We shall repeat information. It is appropriate to study one form of constructed and organized distortion of the archetypical mind in depth in order to arrive at the position of being able to become and to experience archetypes at will. You have three basic choices. You may choose astrology, the twelve signs, as you call these portions of your planet’s energy web, and what has been called the ten planets. You may choose the tarot with its twenty-two so-called Major Arcana. You may choose the study of the so-called Tree of Life with its ten Sephiroth and the twenty-two relationships between the stations.

It is well to investigate each discipline, not as a dilettante, but as one who seeks the touchstone, one who wishes to feel the pull of the magnet. One of these studies will be more attractive to the seeker. Let the seeker, then, investigate the archetypical mind using, basically, one of these three disciplines. After a period of study, the discipline mastered sufficiently, the seeker may then complete the more important step: that is, the moving beyond the written in order to express in an unique fashion its understanding, if you may again pardon the noun, of the archetypical mind.

[9eagle9]

Here in the US certain people of the Native American persuasion venerated the buffalo. It is an animal that takes the path of least resistance. It is animal they percieve as a gift-- a miracle from the Creator. It gave them everything--by taking the path of least resistance.

Posted by astrid (here)
Yes I bought the original tarot deck for exactly that
reason , I knew the symbology being so old would
be somewhere in my knowingness . Also I'm a lazy
Libran , why walk when you can fly ?? Bugger that
as us Aussie's say . Which links into 9's post - agreed
110 % , when you get out of the mind so many things
open up. Worried about mind control? Call me an idealist
but that stuff has a glass ceiling . Stay out of fear , go
direct and to the highest possible source you can reach
(whose energy sig is unmistakable) and you can't go
wrong . It actually becomes so simple that most don't
believe it , so you have to make it all wordy and flesh
it out again when trying to teach it .
Waking up sheep , welll here's the thing , not everyone
is going to wake up so dont sweat it . Take the path of
least resistance and save your energy for what you can
Influence . Again simple, and again most keep pushing
and pushing ****e up a hill when when you can just draw
a bag around it and some wings and viola, LOL
It's all a dream the whole lot of it , dont like it
then dream one you do .