The journey to discovering my true origins

[TraineeHuman]

Snowbird requested me to start this thread. That request was in post #59 of the General Discussion thread ‘Re: Camelot Interview: What is the Alien Intervention / What can we do?’

See also posts #53 and #64 in that thread.

I’ll take it for granted that anybody reading this has first read those posts, as background.


First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.

But so much fell into place once I specifically knew for certain that I was guardian angel who volunteered to live as a human. So many puzzles about why I was the strange way I was just fell away. (For me. Unfortunately, not for many of the people who have known me in the past. Or today.) Yes, I still take responsibility for my mistakes and failures and weaknesses. But now I know that so many “negatives”, as others perceive them, are usually just due to the fact that I’m different.

One example of how I’m “different” is that it’s been 9 years since I’ve experienced such a thing as boredom. I can do virtually any kind of work, and whatever it is I’ll find a way to enjoy it, guaranteed. The boredom doesn’t lie in the form of work. It totally lies within the person.

I consider I have in at least some ways regained the kind of equilibrium I had before coming to the Earth. For me now, nothing really matters. I don’t mean that in an apathetic or suicidal way. Quite the opposite. It’s a life where everything becomes fun, sort of playful – except for physical pain, maybe. You don’t actually care what others think of you, for instance – except from the point of view of what’s more to their benefit.

It doesn’t always come out much when I write, but when I talk there’s always a backhanded and slightly sarcastic humor that comes out. Kind of like: “And you expected perfection??”

Even though I’m saying “nothing matters to me”, it’s also all the more true that “everything I or you do counts”. I’m not sure how to explain that seeming contradiction.


I’m simply not a very political animal. Maybe that’s thanks to my sun in Pisces and Neptunian aspects. Even more likely, I believe, it’s due to the detachment from certain types of politics that guardian angels generally have, as I understand them – or perhaps misunderstand them, if you like.

Once when I was intensely exploring why I volunteered to come here, what came up from deep in my subconscious/unconscious was that I had in effect agreed to come to the planet as kind of sacrifice, like a scapegoat. Almost like voluntary masochism. Apparently I was not compelled to come to Earth. But on the other hand, living a life in human form would fill in some major gaps in my understanding.

Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony. Readers should appreciate that guardian angels – like other sixth-dimensional beings – live in a world that is mostly beyond time, and much more harmonious. So, I agreed to be born to parents who were essentially at war with each other, psychologically speaking, at the time I was born. It was so disharmonious that part of the nauseating birth trauma I experienced, and some subsequent traumas during my first twelve months, went something like this. I felt like I was being pulled in various different directions, to the point where whatever was “me” seemed to be totally torn apart and in a sense quite destroyed. There was simply no way my parents could rely reconcile with each other. The best they could do was declare a temporary truce. And they had agreed to do exactly that before and because of my birth. Even at that age, I felt the burden that I was somehow expected to get them back together into true harmony.

Why did I need this lesson? Well, my understanding is that most guardian angels simply don’t understand some of the insane things that go on everywhere as a “normal” part of the 3D world on Earth. Also, what I retrieved from my deep memory were details of what had happened some millions of years ago, when I had served as a guardian angel for a different intelligent species than humans.

The species was genetically modified from horses. There was a land-based form, which developed space technology and eventually evacuated from the planet, as they were being oppressed by some reptoid races who also lived on the planet at that time. There was also a water-based form. Today’s whales and dolphins are the direct descendants of that form.

I served for a very long time, and it was considered that the guardian angels of these creatures had eventually facilitated solutions which had quite satisfactory results – particularly since these creatures suffered far worse than humans do today. However, had I and other guardian angels had a fuller understanding of what oppression meant “on the ground”, solutions would have been found much quicker. I saw that my record showed a misuse of power. Let me make it clear that sixth-dimensional beings don’t essentially have ego like beings in the 3D world. It wasn’t misuse of power in the sense of power addiction or corruption or anything resembling that. Instead, it was “misuse” of great power simply due to ignorance, to a lack of sufficient knowledge/understanding of certain details.

Many seem to believe that angels are somehow perfect. They’re not. They’re just beings from a higher dimension. The guardian angels do their best. They’re 100% well-intentioned. But there are limits to what they can do. Nevertheless, they are the beings ultimately in power over the Earth. They allow various types of “Greys” to have apparent power, but that is subject to the guardian angels’ veto, or constructive "revision" or creative extension, at any time.

Just some more details about whales/dolphins and their ancestors --based on my memories (?) from millions of years ago. They are very, very sensitive creatures, much more sensitive than most humans. (Though not as finely sensitive as guardian angels.) They have two sides to their personality. One is the subtle, fine side – like a baby, or like Tolkien’s elves. The other is a rather murderous kind of anger. It’s deeply repressed, but it comes out intensely, like in an oil well. I’ve known psychics who claim that the “hell” of these beings is the worst one within the planet’s (and the planet’s astral world’s) boundaries. The same psychics also claimed there was no hope of curing these creatures of their negative side. However, in the late 70s I received some direct communication from the God Pan (who is utterly devoted to this planet and to saving it). He told me that he had liberated them from their “hell”. I guess this doesn’t mean much to some readers, but suffice it to say that the effect of that was a huge raising of the consciousnesses of all intelligent beings on the planet. (Pan works hand in glove with Gaia. These days they work in collaboration with various 3D volunteers from other planets to reverse the environmental destruction, using the advanced knowledge from those other 3D planets.)

For Snowbird’s benefit if nobody else’s, I’ll be making more jottings soon, particularly regarding some of my actual experiences.

[Kristo]

From the bottom of my heart, thank you TraineeHuman. I feel your sincerity and I resonate with so much of your Soul Story. I am looking forward to more of your 'jottings'
Warmly,
Kris

[wolf_rt]

Hi mate, i was wondering if you could comment on the motivations of 'guardian angels'. Are they too looking to accumulate experience, in a journey to a higher dimension?

[passiglight]

Perhaps these 2 links might point you in a rough and broad direction of your past............Well at least the past of the cration of your current vehicle.......


http://www.exopaedia.org/Earth%27s+Galactic+History Earth's galactic history,,,,

http://www.exopaedia.org/Humanoid+galactic+history Humanoid galactic history...


cosmo

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by wolf_rt (here)
Hi mate, i was wondering if you could comment on the motivations of 'guardian angels'. Are they too looking to accumulate experience, in a journey to a higher dimension?

They are volunteers, seeking to help make the universe a better place. A bit like Australian Volunteers Abroad. They are visiting from a higher dimension, but yes, the experience helps them progress even further.

Nearly every human being has at least two guardian angels with them from birth to death. In rare cases these beings will "resign", but others will eventually come and take up their job. Often you'll see them just weeping at the stupidity of the choices and behaviour of the individual they are assigned to.

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Posted by passiglight (here)
Perhaps these 2 links might point you in a rough and broad direction of your past............Well at least the past of the cration of your current vehicle.......


http://www.exopaedia.org/Earth%27s+Galactic+History Earth's galactic history,,,,

http://www.exopaedia.org/Humanoid+galactic+history Humanoid galactic history...


cosmo

Cosmo, I can assure you that at least some of that information is false. One example is that the Gods (at least the ones I know, such as Pan and Gaia and Shiva and co.) are absolutely of human origin and from this planet.

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I guess most Avalonians would be asking why the guardian angels don’t just round up all the individual ETs who are or may be negative or exploitative and maybe put them in jail, kind of the way that humans do? The best short answer I can offer to that goes as follows.

Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

One thing that guardian angels continually seek to do is create situations where people find it hard to avoid facing their biggest psychological problems/weaknesses – or at least being aware of them. This is because that brings accurate identification of the problem(s), which is already more than halfway to their solution – at least on an individual level. Well, the ruling elite are basically just copies of you. They’re the mirror you and all of humanity need to look in. Guardian angels are certainly responsible for overseeing the conception and birth process of each human being. So I guess you can say they’ve helped create the overpopulation problem. Why? Because they want humans to confront how abusive they are and how much they virtually all let themselves get corrupted by power.

If you imagine you’re not like that, all I can say is that my biggest psychotherapeutic obstacle has been overcoming the meanness of humans, particularly of the members of the family I grew up in. And they were just like most of you. In my experience, ETs are rarely anything like as mean. Admittedly, they’re all usually on their best behavior around guardian angels, much as humans go on their best behavior when the boss is around. But in my experience, most ETs are quite unlike humans. They’re usually much purer of heart, rather like domesticated dogs and cats and birds and guinea pigs and snakes and whatever. Take the trouble to make a gesture of friendship to a domesticated animal, and it’s your loyal friend for life. It won’t try to stab you in the back. It will always assume good things about you unless you prove otherwise.

As Bob Dean has mentioned more than once, compared to (I would say, over 99% of) other star people, humans are mean brutes. How ridiculous to imagine that other ET races must be just like you. The nasty deviousness and cunning and paranoia and sadism of the Western mind is quite unique, as far as my experience goes. Just because humans have adopted certain insane qualities as “normal”, such as a lack of generosity and a lack of genuineness, that doesn’t mean there’s even one other race out there that has adopted the same particular variety of insaneness as “normal”.

Yes, the guardian angels currently have a program of upgrading the human genome to a less brutish form – because they’re desperate to find something that will work. And the “Greys” work for them. And yes, the US government also made a deal with some renegade, nasty Greys to allow them to abduct humans as well. Before possibly deciding to intervene regarding the latter group, wouldn’t the guardian angels need some assurance or evidence that the latter group of Greys are not as mean and nasty as humans, as exemplified by the US government?

I have friendly, warm relationships with many humans, to varying degrees of closeness. But in my own therapeutic journey the theme of “just not liking humans” was seemingly endless, for years. Where did I get that complex from? Well, I had a brother three-and-a-half years older who I originally thought was ever so cool. When I was very young I kind of thought he was God, or my angel. I followed him around and learnt all the tricks and all the fun things to do, that he so conveniently was expert on already. Then he started to get a little competitive, then a lot competitive, then jealous as well and was even openly ashamed of having me near any friends of his own age. Then, my parents’ romantic relationship ended and my brother was my father’s ally in a war where I was pronounced to be my mother’s ally, without being given any say or agreeing to any such thing.

My mother was extremely possessive. Not only that, she was born into an Iluminati family, where she learnt that the way to raise a kid was to keep them in a psychological prison and use an iron rod – well, not physically (except three times, two of which didn’t come off because I was so horrified at the barbarity of “physical discipline”). It wasn’t so bad. She was extraordinarily affectionate, she was in Australia and had actually lost contact with her family, and in her heart she was a rebel against their tough discipline anyway. And I instinctively knew how to be “nothing” in some spiritual sense and not let it get too much to the real me, somehow.

I don’t want to bore you with all sorts of details of my history. Suffice it to say that humans have a way of letting you down, of figuratively kicking you in the teeth just because they can. And it’s high time for them to face it. For instance, let's face what's in David Wilcock's latest blog.

[TraineeHuman]

At Avalon people talk about the Matrix of control. Well, to anybody from a higher dimension who gets born here the social matrix looks insanely arbitrary and ridiculous. I have noticed that in my own life, and also in the lives of other people I have known who I believe were incarnated guardian angels, a line has been drawn. No matter how hard we may have tried to conform, still, at various stages of life, including childhood, we took a stand. Many stands. We decided that society is just so ridiculous in certain ways that we won’t take it seriously any more in those areas. This is similar to the reason why U.G. Krishnamurti and Eckhart Tolle and others eventually got to a point where they felt it was saner to live on the streets as a homeless person for several years. Unfortunately, in Western society that doesn’t work (drat!), as the above two discovered.

One good example is money. I’d like to bet even most 3D planets don’t have such a thing as money, although they probably do have trade and barter. I believe in any sane world that had money, there would be a meter on every street corner that dispensed hundred dollar notes for free.

Another example is sexuality. This is very heavily manipulated by the media and greatly overused by the advertising industry and other forces of persuasion and control. I don’t know of any incarnated guardian angel or higher dimensional being – myself included – who didn’t find it a source of great perplexity. At one time I was in a romantic relationship with a youngish woman who was an incarnated guardian angel. Years after knowing her, I eventually worked out that her ET origins were from that galaxy where sexuality and spirituality are almost the same thing. She was very physically attractive, and would have a partner for several months or a few months and then move on to a new one. I guess this is a little like being a perpetual overseas tourist. Once she felt she understood what was inside the soul of one partner, she moved on to a fresh horizon. By the way, g.a.s have x-ray vision. We see a great deal of whatever is going on inside of you, including things you don’t see yourself. At one point I tried to explain tantric sex to her, but unfortunately she rejected the idea because she wrongly jumped to the conclusion that it was something kinky. And she was far too headstrong to be persuaded otherwise. Yet in a way that was exactly what she was searching for in “using up” men like disposable napkins – but still leaving all of them happy and more conscious, I have no doubt.

In my own case, in my early twenties I discovered that there was a more satisfying type of sexual experience where, in the upper astral (upper 4D), one blends or merges one’s astral body with that of another. That experience is more blissful and pleasurable, it can go on for quite a few hours without stopping, and it physically energises you so that you need very little sleep that day and night. It took six years before I found a partner who was smart enough to understand.

The widespread prejudice that tantric sex had to be something “kinky” was only one reason why I found sexuality frustrating and inconvenient, even more so than most people. Maybe the biggest reason was as follows. As far as I have been able to explore, most of you humans -- well, if you’re at Avalon you probably have star seed origins in your recent past, so I guess I mean the other humans out there – most of them went through a very long reincarnational process of being mineral, then eventually vegetable, then animal, probably on some other 3D planet. In all that time you/they developed certain kinds of instinctive knowledge related to survival and behavior in a 3D world. So you developed what in another thread has been called “body consciousness”. (Although it’s very, very important to listen to your body and to the Earth, technically I would argue that that “consciousness” is part of your whole consciousness. It’s not something separate, as scientology dogmatically asserts. For now, all I’ll say in defence of my claim is as follows. There is a man who wrote a book attempting to summarise everything J. Krishnamurti taught. I don’t remember his name off hand. But this man claimed that Krishnamurti’s teaching work fell into three phases. And that in the first phase, which lasted 9 nine years, the central theme throughout was precisely that anything like “the body consciousness” is not at all separate from your total consciousness.) The point is, most humans have millions or billions of years of built up instinctual knowledge of sexuality, but the star visitor types don’t have that.

In my next post I’ll say more about my experiences of being “different”.

[Snowbird]

Wow TraineeHuman, I just now found this thread! I wasn't expecting to see it until March, if at all. This is wonderful. I have lots of questions and comments, but I will now finish reading.......

[karelia]

This is a fascinating thread, TraineeHuman! So much of what you've observed resonates with me, it's eery.

[Carmen]

Yes, fascinating thread.

[jp11]

TraineeHuman, thanks so much for this thread. Looking forward to reading more. Thank you for caring enough to share.

[Mulder]

I totally love this thread. It's answered some questions I've been searching for. I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject. Also, if my soul has been terribly hurt, can I swap with my guardian angel & one of them takes over my body, while I "ascend" to becoming the guardian angel?

[Snowbird]

TraineeHuman - But now I know that so many “negatives”, as others perceive them, are usually just due to the fact that I’m different.

I love this statement! Those who are considered "different" appear to possess negative qualities by those who are a part of the general society. We, self included, live outside of the box of society and tend to love it there...on the outside looking in. Being on the inside of the box makes me squirm.

TH - Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony.

Have you by chance noticed that you, as a peaceful gentle being, can walk into a situation or job or group of people with full intentions of harmony and getting along with everyone and within a short time, all hell breaks loose? Family, friends, jobs or wherever people gather together and there you are in their midst? I'm asking this because I have just described myself. You appear to be a peaceful person and want peaceful situations in your life. Has your life been as I have just described? The animals are the great exceptions to this disharmony.

What has caused the murderous kind of anger of the whales/dolphins and their ancestors? Is Pan indicating that by healing them of this anger, that the consciousness of Earth was raised?

TH - Often you'll see them just weeping at the stupidity of the choices and behaviour of the individual they are assigned to.

Guardian angels actually weep? Do they shed tears?

TH - Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

How would you describe a galactic judge in words? They visited thousands of years ago and they are now back? Who are they and why were/are they here? What is their function? Inelia may possibly be one of these, but she has stated that her sole purpose here on Earth is to raise the global vibrational frequency of this Earth and its inhabitants.

TH - ...all I can say is that my biggest psychotherapeutic obstacle has been overcoming the meanness of humans,...

This is so true that it is difficult to say anything more.

Are all guardian angels hermaphrodites?

[araucaria]

I have to confess to having deep misgivings about phrases like ‘ETs are much more/less ... than you humans’.

In my view it comes dangerously close to what in other contexts we would describe as elitist or even racist thinking.

If any ETs have incarnated as humans, I should think it is precisely in order to avoid making such ‘us’ and ‘them’ dichotomies by being obliged to say ‘WE humans’.

But then I am (as far as I know) just an ordinary human being saying this.

[nf857]

Hi Trainee Human,

Great post btw!

First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.

I dont doubt your beleif that your a guardian angel as for your own reasons its took a lot of hardwork to get this perspective. I thought guardian angels only exited in the astral realms & only materialise if they feel the need to really 'intervene'? Are you on this material plain all the time? I think you first paragraph above works for those who feel less whole by their stregths/weaknesses, what advice for those who feel whole already? I know this sounds arrogant however ive accepted my weaknesses & my strenghts, & dont feel the need to work on them, persay, im still constantly learning, however i do just accept myself for what i am.

Can i ask what the genetically modified species that came from horses looked like? A lot of what you say resonates with me as im deeply deeply sensitive, however i dont realy care about how others perceive me, so long as i dont hurt their feelings, i.e. there peceptions of me dont effect me in anyway, as i dont have an ego if you like. If somebody says im a ugly, cow, does not really bother me at all, as they are only perceiving me at face value, & beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ive always felt my sould was really beautiful, i have always thought that angels are not perfect they are just beings like any other form of being. However have been around a lot longer than most.

I totally resonate with the wanting peace around a gathering & it not being this way. Happens all the time for me. Also sexuality has been my biggest barrier in life, i can take or leave sex all together, not that i dont enjoy it, just that somebody has to direct me into it if you like, as i can quite happily go without it. Also ive also felt both male/female energies in my soul, however i dont feel by-sexual as im in a female body, so logically for me i prefer to co-habit with a male form x

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by nf857 (here)
Hi Trainee Human,

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First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.

I dont doubt your beleif that your a guardian angel as for your own reasons its took a lot of hardwork to get this perspective. I thought guardian angels only exited in the astral realms & only materialise if they feel the need to really 'intervene'? Are you on this material plain all the time? I think you first paragraph above works for those who feel less whole by their stregths/weaknesses, what advice for those who feel whole already? I know this sounds arrogant however ive accepted my weaknesses & my strenghts, & dont feel the need to work on them, persay, im still constantly learning, however i do just accept myself for what i am.

Can i ask what the genetically modified species that came from horses looked like? A lot of what you say resonates with me as im deeply deeply sensitive, however i dont realy care about how others perceive me, so long as i dont hurt their feelings, i.e. there peceptions of me dont effect me in anyway, as i dont have an ego if you like. If somebody says im a ugly, cow, does not really bother me at all, as they are only perceiving me at face value, & beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ive always felt my sould was really beautiful, i have always thought that angels are not perfect they are just beings like any other form of being. However have been around a lot longer than most.

I totally resonate with the wanting peace around a gathering & it not being this way. Happens all the time for me. Also sexuality has been my biggest barrier in life, i can take or leave sex all together, not that i dont enjoy it, just that somebody has to direct me into it if you like, as i can quite happily go without it. Also ive also felt both male/female energies in my soul, however i dont feel by-sexual as im in a female body, so logically for me i prefer to co-habit with a male form x

Yes, I'm totally in the material plane, just like everybody else. Otherwise I wouldn't get the full experience of what it's like to live in 3D.

It's great that you feel whole already, nf857. I can certainly relate to what you say about no longer caring what your strengths and weaknesses may be. For me, though, it's a matter of still working on them sometimes, because they're important to others and not to oneself.

What did the intelligent species modified from horses look like? The water-based ones looked much like dolphins. The land-based ones looked like dolphins without most of the smooth edges, and of course with feet, but shorter feet than horses have, and with something more like fingers at the ends. Also a larger, thicker tail than horses.

Advice? Well, firstly, why do you believe you need any advice? You've already made it, in many ways. If you haven't reached freedom from unhappiness pretty much all the time, then work on that. Once a person has continual happiness, what else matters? Then you write your own ticket, and nothing really bothers you to much. Maybe that's where you are already, though.

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Frequently in my childhood and adolescence and beyond, my mother would say: “Oh well, you wouldn’t be Peter if you didn’t do absolutely everything a different way from how the rest of the world does it.” My former wife and some other partners would quite often say much the same thing. Close friends would express puzzlement at not being able to understand me.

To me, always, to be original was totally natural because it was just to truly be, or to be myself. I learned to conform where it counted, such as, when I wasn’t self-employed, when employers required it. It was no problem, and usually employers considered my initiative and creativity to be my strongest point. How can you experience each moment as truly fresh if you aren’t fresh in it as well? It’s just not natural any other way.

I guess what adds to the puzzle for people is that when I’m not writing but just talking, my mind keeps making lateral jumps. And it’s hard for most listeners to imagine how B is relevant to A as I jump from A to B. Actually, psychotic (insane) people do the same thing. Not that I’m insane, but like such people, in me the thing that psychologists call “ego-boundaries” (not ego in the meditation/spiritual sense) have always been a little weak. Though also, creative individuals are the ones who have the greatest “ego strength” (again, not ego in the meditation sense). A reed is stronger than the wind and the river because, unlike them, it can bend very easily and stay unchanged.

One reason why I could handle being different was that from childhood on I had a strong love for myself, or self-esteem. People look – even family members and close friends – at how you treat yourself, and they mostly treat you the same way. (Well, their vision is warped and blurred by their own neuroses, But often they’ll still be able to see.) Since I had an enormous natural love for myself, my parents kind of treated me like a king. As far as I was concerned, this was the natural state of all human beings, and in that sense I wasn’t special in any way.

It’s impossible to have strong love for anybody or anything else unless you have equally strong love for your (true, inner) self. Christians supposedly believe that they have “Christ” within. Well, if Christ is truly within, then he’s a part of you. And God is very, very lovable, and quite naturally and purely so.

Another thing that helped was my early childhood contacts with nature spirits. They are like close cousins to angelic beings. When I was aged one month my parents move to a suburb where there was a beach a few minutes down the street. When I was four, though, we moved again. The house we moved to had a huge back yard, overgrown with long grasses and weeds and wild flowers. I immediately discovered that there literally were “fairies at the bottom of the garden”. I used to talk to them at times, and always said hello. About half a year later I mentioned their presence to my older brother. He emphatically but diplomatically told me they didn’t want to be discovered or even talked to. So I stopped talking to them, believing I was thereby protecting them as my brother had told me they would be in danger if I kept communicating. They did still make appearances, but mainly it was whenever I was ill in bed. They would appear on my bed near my feet or near the side of the bed. They had the ugliest faces I had ever seen, and I couldn’t help but laugh. Which was their intention – to cheer me up. I’m sure most of the ugly faces weren’t exactly their real faces. The nature spirits wherever you live or wander do many little things behind the scenes for humans, as do the g.a.s. But the reason why Nature is so refreshing is that the nature spirits keep cleaning up the energies, so to speak, so that it’s a healing environment, largely unpolluted by human thought-forms and unnatural human creations such as cars and so on.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Mulder (here)
I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject. Also, if my soul has been terribly hurt, can I swap with my guardian angel & one of them takes over my body, while I "ascend" to becoming the guardian angel?

There are no dark or negative guardian angels. However, there are what scientology calls "attaching thetans" and other groups call them various other names. My own research and observations suggest that most of the attaching spirits are the personalities (which are electromagnetic fields made of thoughts and emotions and a little consciousness) which the individual had in previous lifetimes. These are 4D, whereas guardian angels are at least 6D, as far as I know. Yes, these past personalities are dark, simply because they believe they know what is best for the individual. After all, they were the individual's identity during a previous lifetime. The problem is, with each new lifetime a person seeks to grow, to evolve further, but the attached spirits/personalities want to pull the person back into where they were at in one or more previous lifetimes -- because that's all that the attached personality knows! This is very dangerous. I've seen it apparently cause insanity in several cases.

Are there other "dark" 4D beings that a person can be corded to? Certainly, though in the vast majority of cases I would be much more concerned about cords to living human beings in the 3D world.

Can a human swap places with one of their guardian angels? Well, I guess it could be possible if the human had reached a certain level of development and the g.a. for some reason was at the very same time willing to incarnate because of some special task or project.

[TraineeHuman]

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TH - Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony.

Have you by chance noticed that you, as a peaceful gentle being, can walk into a situation or job or group of people with full intentions of harmony and getting along with everyone and within a short time, all hell breaks loose? Family, friends, jobs or wherever people gather together and there you are in their midst? I'm asking this because I have just described myself. You appear to be a peaceful person and want peaceful situations in your life. Has your life been as I have just described? The animals are the great exceptions to this disharmony.
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I guess I tend to automatically put my consciousness around the entire group. Another way to put it is that I kind of identify with everybody in the group, and kind of absorb their feelings. In doing so I believe I bring a certain small level of healing. It's quite habitual for me. At the risk of sounding conceited, I know that I automatically always bring some psychic healing into any situation involving others. But it isn't a peaceful experience for me, beyond the fact that I can feel the peace (or the "I am" and so on) that's always there at a deeper level.

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Posted by Snowbird (here)
What has caused the murderous kind of anger of the whales/dolphins and their ancestors? Is Pan indicating that by healing them of this anger, that the consciousness of Earth was raised?[/COLOR][/B]

For a long time the ancestors of whales and dolphins were repressed very badly by other, more dominant species on the planet at the time. I don't want to excite imaginations by going into any of the gory details. Those ancestors were simply banned totally from expressing their anger at the injustice done to them, a little like in the former Soviet Union. They were treated like outright slaves. Electronic control of every individual was certainly part of this. Over a very long period they were conditioned into all having a certain type of personality. The repression would be hard for many people to even imagine.

Yes, we are all far more closely interconnected than we may dare to imagine. Even more so, we are interconnected with the consciousness of the Earth.

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Posted by Snowbird (here)

Guardian angels actually weep? Do they shed tears?

TH - Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

How would you describe a galactic judge in words? They visited thousands of years ago and they are now back? Who are they and why were/are they here? What is their function? Inelia may possibly be one of these, but she has stated that her sole purpose here on Earth is to raise the global vibrational frequency of this Earth and its inhabitants.

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Are all guardian angels hermaphrodites?

When I said g.a.s weep, I didn't mean physically. G.a.s have feelings and sensings, but not emotion. I see "sensing" as something that exists in a number of higher dimensions.

Sorry, but I don't know a great deal about the galactic judges. There are so many different areas where I can't claim to be expert at all.

Hermaphrodites? There's a lot of truth in that, actually, though they may choose to project a form in 4D that looks like one gender only. It's also common for one g.a. assigned to an individual to be nurturing rather like a "female role" and the other to be tough-minded like a "male role".

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Frequently in my childhood and adolescence and beyond, my mother would say: “Oh well, you wouldn’t be Peter if you didn’t do absolutely everything a different way from how the rest of the world does it.” My former wife and some other partners would quite often say much the same thing. Close friends would express puzzlement at not being able to understand me.

To me, always, to be original was totally natural because it was just to truly be, or to be myself. I learned to conform where it counted, such as, when I wasn’t self-employed, when employers required it. It was no problem, and usually employers considered my initiative and creativity to be my strongest point. How can you experience each moment as truly fresh if you aren’t fresh in it as well? It’s just not natural any other way.

I guess what adds to the puzzle for people is that when I’m not writing but just talking, my mind keeps making lateral jumps. And it’s hard for most listeners to imagine how B is relevant to A as I jump from A to B. Actually, psychotic (insane) people do the same thing. Not that I’m insane, but like such people, in me the thing that psychologists call “ego-boundaries” (not ego in the meditation/spiritual sense) have always been a little weak. Though also, creative individuals are the ones who have the greatest “ego strength” (again, not ego in the meditation sense). A reed is stronger than the wind and the river because, unlike them, it can bend very easily and stay unchanged

Yes pretty much how my life has been also, im the reed, i never change, no matter how people what my to conform to their liking, im me. Yes people think im a 'nutter' yet have been 'un-able' to proof it as i dont fit into their beleifs of this, 'im not psychotic' i dont suffer with 'Bi-polar' 'Depression' 'Pszchproneia' etc etc. I was bullied in my formative years, however they only taught me the 'human flaws' i view humans as 'pets', you can be nice to them, & they can take the love you give them, or they can turn and 'bite you in your ass' even after you give them un-conditional love, 'they' are never 'happy', almost like 'spoilt children', what they call 'grown-up' is 'hiding their inner child' as society teaches them to ''conform'. Yes you still have to learn, constantly, i understand how you jump from 'A-B' however you have been from 'A-Z' havent you? BTW i ask your advice to see if it resonates with my own knowing? As for me my biggest problem is 'faith' ive learnt that my 'human flaw' is 'faith', i think because maybe ive been very 'unfaithful' before, i was brought up with the most 'difficult' parents, parents that abuse, 'toxic parents' they not just abuse the body, they abuse the mind as well, almost playing games with your 'mind'. I then had the 'worse' friends growing up, they were not nice friends, friends you can trust, they would just 'use' you, not that i mind being 'used' ever, which dumbfounds most people, however im a martyr so i just dont mind at all.

Another thing that helped was my early childhood contacts with nature spirits. They are like close cousins to angelic beings. When I was aged one month my parents move to a suburb where there was a beach a few minutes down the street. When I was four, though, we moved again. The house we moved to had a huge back yard, overgrown with long grasses and weeds and wild flowers. I immediately discovered that there literally were “fairies at the bottom of the garden”. I used to talk to them at times, and always said hello. About half a year later I mentioned their presence to my older brother. He emphatically but diplomatically told me they didn’t want to be discovered or even talked to. So I stopped talking to them, believing I was thereby protecting them as my brother had told me they would be in danger if I kept communicating. They did still make appearances, but mainly it was whenever I was ill in bed. They would appear on my bed near my feet or near the side of the bed. They had the ugliest faces I had ever seen, and I couldn’t help but laugh. Which was their intention – to cheer me up. I’m sure most of the ugly faces weren’t exactly their real faces. The nature spirits wherever you live or wander do many little things behind the scenes for humans, as do the g.a.s. But the reason why Nature is so refreshing is that the nature spirits keep cleaning up the energies, so to speak, so that it’s a healing environment, largely unpolluted by human thought-forms and unnatural human creations such as cars and so on.

OMG yes ive seen them too, however dont seem to be able to anymore, i think because of the 'conforming' to 'normality', im conditioned to beleive 'they are fantasy' as my mum and dad used to always tell me, however i know i saw them, exactly how you did. They were so nice to me. I wish they could be here now, as im constantly in bed with severe M.E/Fibromyalgia, which i know is a man-made disease, ive done all the research into this, it is 'the control' we all talk about' so i am being punished by 'the control' for questioning it? How would the nature spirits reverse this? As this was not 'Natural' it was done by either injection/pollution in the sky/or a bite?

I bet the biggest insult to you is the 'Lynx' advert with our conceptual view of an 'angel' do 'angels' really look so 'beautiful' words cant express it? As the 'Lynz' advets just show an ideal image of a normal woman idealogy the biggest trick in the books, conforming to anothers idealogy of self.

For a long time the ancestors of whales and dolphins were repressed very badly by other, more dominant species on the planet at the time. I don't want to excite imaginations by going into any of the gory details. Those ancestors were simply banned totally from expressing their anger at the injustice done to them, a little like in the former Soviet Union. They were treated like outright slaves. Electronic control of every individual was certainly part of this. Over a very long period they were conditioned into all having a certain type of personality. The repression would be hard for many people to even imagine.

Are we not in the same repression? Are we not these beings? In all its many forms? How does a cat feel? We always few domestic cats as 'having the life of luxury' however do they view it as the life of luxury? They were once free to roam the lands, now they are in 'servitude' to humans in a sense as they 'depend' on our 'feeding' them, 'nurturing' them etc etc. Which is why parenting ideals are useless? Well they were in my case anyway, im sure people have had lots of positive parenting, however ive found that those with the most 'positive parenting' grow up with an 'un-realistic' view of 'reality'. They dont seem to be able to handle it. Which makes me think hmmm my awful parenting was a great lesson, 'trial from adversity'. Are you a mother? Can you relate to this from a parents perspective? As parents go off there parenting & down the family tree we go lol!

P.S Please tell us the 'gory' details, tells us everything,in this section we can handle it, we have seen enough of it to be able to already, im sure we all want to know this, as 'dolphins' are the most 'nicest/intelligent' creature on 'earth' we want to know, what was created inside of them, it was not their fault at all? P.S thanks for the description of the horse creatures, could you email me a drawing of them? x