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    Default Re: Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

    whatever happened to aaron macollum and would he have any input on bill wood's testimony?

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    He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.
    I believe (but do not know) that this is the case. I've talked in some depth with Kerry, who assures me that she's seen his credentials and paperwork.

    I have not seen this -- but I do not doubt her word, and based on his testimony and Kerry's backstory (and also David's strong endorsement) I believe Bill Wood is credible.
    So you believe that the letters from the ex SEALS Don Shipley and Steve Robinson are untrue?
    They may not have access to all the information. Some SEAL activities and units are highly compartmentalized and classified.

    It's also highly possible in this world of intrigue that some SEALS will use legitimate means (like stating truthfully that certain records cannot be found) to discredit one of their own who they consider to have acted unethically by breaking ranks.

    We do have to be intelligent about this. We are, in effect, in a Hollywood movie here. Anything at all could be going on -- and we may not yet know exactly what.

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    Quote Posted by firstlook (here)
    I don't think anyone on this planet thinks they are a con man.
    Do you really believe no one on this planet thinks they are a con man? Really? I am not asking sarcastically. I am shocked because I could point to a plethora of proven con men who bilked people out of millions if not billions of dollars, and it was not out of surviving at that level of a con. No, that was a predatory sociopathic leech on society. We call them politicians in Washington DC btw, but there are plenty in the private sector making a mint on New Ageism, Truth Movement, Christianity, Pop Psychology..... I could go on and on. They ride the wave and hop off at some point to sip wine coolers on the beach.

    Quote I know That I agree with your signature. I would think Sean David Morton would too. People are not just their ideas and mannerisms. They deserve credit for existing and participating whether you agree or not. This is not a philosophy as more so its just the natural course of reality. As above So below. Hope you do not take offense for these ideas. I do care.
    I don't have an axe to grind with you at all, so please know my words are not meant to be harsh. I have no idea why SDM is even brought up here in regards to my words. Oh, if it is about people on this forum I would agree. There are plenty of people on this forum who have no problem attacking me despite taking great umbridge at my questioning motives of media darlings who do not appear to live up to their teachings or their stories don't line up with logical facts. Then there are the people in general, say those trying to educate our children or being pushed in the media as the new and latest guru I would disagree. Many people are led down terrible paths under false pretenses. I'm sure some who have fallen prey to the would be abusive guru mind control cult leader would have wished they had someone to point some things out before they fell under their spell.

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    I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book. There is something very 'off' about that critter. I am not the only one who sees it. I guess she needs to play with the approved guest list.

    She has to know better. Her credibility has grown recently, I feel bad she might be stuck playing the Awake and Aware game.

    His last interview with Fulford was a mockery of a sincere interviewing style. He sought after sensational and lurid details. So MSM in style. He also acted the fool at the last A&A tour/show?
    Great minds talk about ideas
    Average minds discuss events
    Small minds talk about people

    So are you posting about an idea, and event or a person? Have a look in the mirror. The names/people in our community are synonymous with events and ideas. I have heard and read this little saying many times before. Do you have any original thoughts?

    I know the ground my feet are upon.
    Why do you call people fools? Thats what I was implying. I don't understand how that helps people improve their critical thinking. It adds unneeded defenses to the process which shrinks ones perception and divides people. And people divided cannot learn from each other and grow.

    I respect your opinions and hope that you did not take it as an insult to your intellect. Merely trying to add thoughts that help keep discussion free and without separation of worth and hierarchy. Ideas should remain hierarchal as is the nature of the universe and creation, but putting others down in labels causes stationary thinking.

    Just trying to help, honest.
    I believe you are trying to help and are being honest. So, I will endeavor to give my best flameless answer. I believe Sean conducts himself in a fashion that is distracting in a way that his actions take away from the gravitas of others. The word fool is meant as a descriptive one and not a cheap shot. So perhaps pedantry demands that I describe his actions as appearing foolish rather than the ad hominem of calling him a fool. I believe my perception of him should be able to find expression. Part of being a public figure is being a tomato target. It is why I know his name and he doesn't know mine. I will edit my OP. What I thought was pointing to a blemish has backfired. My coyote medicine at work.

    However, pursuant to a point Bill Ryan made to my OP on this matter, the focus on what he has to say in his book and not his behavior should be the focus. I will not make a further fool of myself by doing anything other than just stepping back quietly and apologize for my opinions.
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    Quote Posted by firstlook (here)
    I don't think anyone on this planet thinks they are a con man.
    Do you really believe no one on this planet thinks they are a con man? Really? I am not asking sarcastically. I am shocked because I could point to a plethora of proven con men who bilked people out of millions if not billions of dollars, and it was not out of surviving at that level of a con. No, that was a predatory sociopathic leech on society. We call them politicians in Washington DC btw, but there are plenty in the private sector making a mint on New Ageism, Truth Movement, Christianity, Pop Psychology..... I could go on and on. They ride the wave and hop off at some point to sip wine coolers on the beach.
    I guess I mean that Con men do not necessarily mean Lies on all levels. Usually it is truth mixed in with hidden desires of externalizing desires discussed as empathy for the betterment of others. This is indeed the definition of sociopath contradictions. What really bugs people I think is a "con mans" inability show genuine reflection. Meaning rarely do you see con men criticizing themselves even in the slightest. But people who genuinely are just trying to support their ideas out of that feeling of comfort and sustainability do not really see themselves as "evil". They genuinely are not trying to be selfish more so then suffering from the courage to discuss things without defending their own ego. We all suffer this and so I think we have to be more balanced in evaluating intentions. But I do still stand buy the statement that even the most sinister people do bad things for good reasons. Its all a very wide ranged scale that needs good discipline in giving your time and energy too. I do agree we shouldn't treat everyone as equal in this measure. But Sean Morten IMO is way further on the scale of genuine empathy and compassion then what would be commonly refereed to as a con man.



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    I know That I agree with your signature. I would think Sean David Morton would too. People are not just their ideas and mannerisms. They deserve credit for existing and participating whether you agree or not. This is not a philosophy as more so its just the natural course of reality. As above So below. Hope you do not take offense for these ideas. I do care.
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity
    I don't have an axe to grind with you at all, so please know my words are not meant to be harsh. I have no idea why SDM is even brought up here in regards to my words. Oh, if it is about people on this forum I would agree. There are plenty of people on this forum who have no problem attacking me despite taking great umbridge at my questioning motives of media darlings who do not appear to live up to their teachings or their stories don't line up with logical facts. Then there are the people in general, say those trying to educate our children or being pushed in the media as the new and latest guru I would disagree. Many people are led down terrible paths under false pretenses. I'm sure some who have fallen prey to the would be abusive guru mind control cult leader would have wished they had someone to point some things out before they fell under their spell.
    No offense taken. Communication is hard for me and so I always try to give that to others in a well meaning way. You'll notice I don't post much about my feelings on more fact based ideas because I'm very slow to be honest. I think thats why my posts tend to be more of a social emphasize based on my sensitive nature. I have to be careful because that sensitivity is hard to focus when viewing logical structures and patterns. I really enjoy alot of your thoughts along with all members of this forum.

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

    Another thing that may need to be taken into account is the authenticity of the documents and paperwork that Kerry saw.
    Such things, I imagine, can be forged.
    Testimony from other SEALS or whistleblowers who know him and have no issue with his ethics would certainly be helpful, if possible.
    He's still a new name in the field, so that may take time to surface, if it does at all.
    The timing on this is certainly a big factor, since there aren't a lot of other whistleblowers surfacing these days...
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    He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.
    I believe (but do not know) that this is the case. I've talked in some depth with Kerry, who assures me that she's seen his credentials and paperwork.

    I have not seen this -- but I do not doubt her word, and based on his testimony and Kerry's backstory (and also David's strong endorsement) I believe Bill Wood is credible.
    So you believe that the letters from the ex SEALS Don Shipley and Steve Robinson are untrue?
    They may not have access to all the information. Some SEAL activities and units are highly compartmentalized and classified.

    It's also highly possible in this world of intrigue that some SEALS will use legitimate means (like stating truthfully that certain records cannot be found) to discredit one of their own who they consider to have acted unethically by breaking ranks.

    We do have to be intelligent about this. We are, in effect, in a Hollywood movie here. Anything at all could be going on -- and we may not yet know exactly what.
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    I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book. There is something very 'off' about that critter. I am not the only one who sees it. I guess she needs to play with the approved guest list.

    She has to know better. Her credibility has grown recently, I feel bad she might be stuck playing the Awake and Aware game.

    His last interview with Fulford was a mockery of a sincere interviewing style. He sought after sensational and lurid details. So MSM in style. He also acted the fool at the last A&A tour/show?
    Great minds talk about ideas
    Average minds discuss events
    Small minds talk about people

    So are you posting about an idea, and event or a person? Have a look in the mirror. The names/people in our community are synonymous with events and ideas. I have heard and read this little saying many times before. Do you have any original thoughts?

    I know the ground my feet are upon.
    Why do you call people fools? Thats what I was implying. I don't understand how that helps people improve their critical thinking. It adds unneeded defenses to the process which shrinks ones perception and divides people. And people divided cannot learn from each other and grow.

    I respect your opinions and hope that you did not take it as an insult to your intellect. Merely trying to add thoughts that help keep discussion free and without separation of worth and hierarchy. Ideas should remain hierarchal as is the nature of the universe and creation, but putting others down in labels causes stationary thinking.

    Just trying to help, honest.
    I believe you are trying to help and are being honest. So, I will endeavor to give my best flameless answer. I believe Sean conducts himself in a fashion that is distracting in a way that his actions take away fro the gravitas of others. The word fool is meant as a descriptive one and not a cheap shot. So perhaps pedantry demands that I describe his actions as appearing foolish rather than the ad hominem or calling him a fool. I believe my perception of him should be able to find expression. Part of being a public figure is being a tomato target. It is why I know his name and he doesn't know mine. I will edit my OP. What I thought was pointing to a blemish has backfired. My coyote medicine at work.

    However, pursuant to a point Bill Ryan made to my OP on this matter, the focus on what he has to say in his book and not his behavior should be the focus. I will not make a further fool of myself by doing anything other than just steeping back quietly and apologize for my opinions.
    I think I understand. Sean does play a defensive role many times expressed through passive aggressive comedy. Such as his ability to understand the nature of DW's breakdown from the death threat/s. I guess we can only take the best and leave the rest in all the best intentions.

    Also I have not read his book and so I think if we are challenging each others intellect on the facts of logic you win by default and I welcome your opinions whole heartedly.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Posted by sdafnom (here)
    01:38:40 The last seven moves on the chess game...
    I have the feeling that the "uphold" of the rules of the game is taken for granted here. (in order for the specific result / conclusion to be drawn) .
    What if the rules can be bend or broken on a technicality / interference?
    Any thoughts?

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    Incidentally in the rules of chess each player must write down his move against the proper number of moves. If it is an organised game the players must play with a clock. They must press their clock with the same hand that they moved the piece with. If one player is running out of time they are allowed to just put a line instead of writing their move, but the other player who is not running out of time MUST write his move down. If the person who is running out of time (and usually they are losing) notices that the other person didn't write their moves down properly they can call on a referee and claim the game. I played competitive chess for 30 yrs. These are the rules. So the person who can see he is going to be checkmated can pull a fast one provided the other person is lax.
    The game is not over until it is over.

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    whatever happened to aaron macollum and would he have any input on bill wood's testimony?
    I believe Aaron has withdrawn his input with the community for a while to further investigate his path and some history of his family. I would assume though that he was in a very different branch of the Seals/"Above Top Secret" groups and would likely not coincide with similar events if my memory serves me correct. Though it is a small world.
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    Oh yes, the important and liberating information of our times.
    I understand Sean's mannerisms, ego, and personality don't sit right with some people, but I don't understand what you mean by your statement. I did not say his book held the holy grail of important and liberating info, I just said I thought it was an excellent read. Sean is a very well read and intelligent man, and he has a big picture perspective that I find very close to complete.
    There must be a language difficulty between us. I will drop it.
    No, there is not. You [Modwiz] are often negatively sarcastic to the point of being transparently obnoxious to anyone with any open perception. You read it here first.

    Sorry Bro,

    i sometimes agree.
    LOL. Me too.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by sdafnom (here)
    01:38:40 The last seven moves on the chess game...
    I have the feeling that the "uphold" of the rules of the game is taken for granted here. (in order for the specific result / conclusion to be drawn) .
    What if the rules can be bend or broken on a technicality / interference?
    Any thoughts?

    Stavros
    Incidentally in the rules of chess each player must write down his move against the proper number of moves. If it is an organised game the players must play with a clock. They must press their clock with the same hand that they moved the piece with. If one player is running out of time they are allowed to just put a line instead of writing their move, but the other player who is not running out of time MUST write his move down. If the person who is running out of time (and usually they are losing) notices that the other person didn't write their moves down properly they can call on a referee and claim the game. I played competitive chess for 30 yrs. These are the rules. So the person who can see he is going to be checkmated can pull a fast one provided the other person is lax.
    The game is not over until it is over.

    Stan
    It would be interesting to see someone like you to somehow draw up a model representation based on Chess in a certain set of parameters to somehow further consolidate possible outcomes. Much like those chess magazines I've seen that outlay all those strategies. I think alot of people here could make it very productive.

    Could make for a good analogy that presents a clear picture to work with. Maybe?
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    Don't you think they are doing their best to do "due diligence" before they associate their names with these whistleblowers? Don't you think they have resources we will NOT have (and probably never will have) access to? Are these people human and could they be duped (possibly but unlikely) and provide us BAD "intel? Of course, but that's not their intention.
    Ummm, no I don't think Kerry provided any proof or even attempted to mention it in the first interview that she had vetted Mr. Woods. How about some simple enlistment paperwork, or his exit paperwork, or his court martial paperwork. When was the last time you ever were involved in any legal preceedings that you did not get some paperwork?

    How about a photo or two in the fields with is fellow soldiers? As I said, I've never met a soldier who did not have that, and he probably has some, but he didn't show them. He can cover up their faces. I actually do think he was in the military, but where are the basic proofs? Ok, set that all aside and think like someone who is responsible for completing missions and his men's / bases safety.

    I did a little role playing the other day in my mind. I put myself in a role of a commanding officer over Mr. Wood's SEAL team. I said, if I were commanding this team, and they were doing highly classified missions and the guy with his finger on the guiding system fire controls for a million dollar deadly weapon suddenly gets a conscience and fails to complete his mission, would I send him back into the field to do even more unsavory tasks as indicated by Mr. Woods first interview?

    My first priority is to complete missions and to protect my men. If a soldier is no longer trustworthy and is in direct control of such a powerful weapon as a guided tomahawk, would I give him another one to use? Forget the waste of letting it hit a "safe" area of dirt, what about him turning it around and using it on say a forward base of ours? I can see the scene,

    I'm sipping coffee and talking with General X, and he says, "So, what's up with your boy Woods?" Setting my cup down, "Well Sir, we really taught him a lesson! We court martialed him to put him at even more mental stress, and he is out in the field thirty miles from here getting ready to hit that school full of those little girls to put pressure on the village to comply." The General stands up and says, "You stupid mother ❤❤❤❤er, you did what?" and just as I hear those words an alarm sounds and in comes a tomahawk with a nice camera on it for Woods to see the look on our faces as we say, "OH SH IT"!

    I mean just look at this logically. Woods career was over the moment HE decided to not complete that mission. He would have either gone to prison or been sent to peel 100,000 potatoes while his contract expired. There are plenty of SEALS to take his place, he was not that valuable of an asset. No one in the military is that valuable of an asset who shows they cannot complete a mission which the military deems necessary. No, I am not justifying missions, I am a student of Sun Tzu and knowing my situation.

    I have other issues with information shared in the second interview. I just do not believe all of Mr. Woods testimony about what happened in the military. We can agree or disagree on how we see Mr. Woods comments. From my experience, that part does not stand up logically. Some would say, so what, he is telling us important information. Is he really? What has he revealed that we have not heard before? Remember, repeat a lie often and the people begin to believe it. I do not believe we have anything energetically / miraculous coming Dec. 21, 2012. I do believe our environment can be manipulated by technology, politically, in the media to help us think a certain way and want certain changes. That's what I think is happening. We are being manipulated into a new world system, plain and simple.
    I'm with you 100% on this one US! When I saw 1st int. thought he seemed sincere, but the more I think about it, it does'nt feel quite right. And while we're talking about minipulating people, I think something is going on with Bill Ryan, but have'nt quite figured it out yet. After all he had a priviledged childhood, his father created the face recognition computer program for the govt he was working for. It really is'nt a far reach to think he's being used for their benefit too. At this point I trust nobody but myself and my wife. Also that Inelia claimed if someone was having financial problems she would send her cd's for free- Well last summer I was having financial troubles because I was raising my nephew because his mom is a heroin addict. She never replied to me or sent any cd's- SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE. The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction. Will I be banned now for speaking MY truth?? We shall see soon enough!

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    Quote Posted by crested-duck (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by Alie (here)
    Don't you think they are doing their best to do "due diligence" before they associate their names with these whistleblowers? Don't you think they have resources we will NOT have (and probably never will have) access to? Are these people human and could they be duped (possibly but unlikely) and provide us BAD "intel? Of course, but that's not their intention.
    Ummm, no I don't think Kerry provided any proof or even attempted to mention it in the first interview that she had vetted Mr. Woods. How about some simple enlistment paperwork, or his exit paperwork, or his court martial paperwork. When was the last time you ever were involved in any legal preceedings that you did not get some paperwork?

    How about a photo or two in the fields with is fellow soldiers? As I said, I've never met a soldier who did not have that, and he probably has some, but he didn't show them. He can cover up their faces. I actually do think he was in the military, but where are the basic proofs? Ok, set that all aside and think like someone who is responsible for completing missions and his men's / bases safety.

    I did a little role playing the other day in my mind. I put myself in a role of a commanding officer over Mr. Wood's SEAL team. I said, if I were commanding this team, and they were doing highly classified missions and the guy with his finger on the guiding system fire controls for a million dollar deadly weapon suddenly gets a conscience and fails to complete his mission, would I send him back into the field to do even more unsavory tasks as indicated by Mr. Woods first interview?

    My first priority is to complete missions and to protect my men. If a soldier is no longer trustworthy and is in direct control of such a powerful weapon as a guided tomahawk, would I give him another one to use? Forget the waste of letting it hit a "safe" area of dirt, what about him turning it around and using it on say a forward base of ours? I can see the scene,

    I'm sipping coffee and talking with General X, and he says, "So, what's up with your boy Woods?" Setting my cup down, "Well Sir, we really taught him a lesson! We court martialed him to put him at even more mental stress, and he is out in the field thirty miles from here getting ready to hit that school full of those little girls to put pressure on the village to comply." The General stands up and says, "You stupid mother ❤❤❤❤er, you did what?" and just as I hear those words an alarm sounds and in comes a tomahawk with a nice camera on it for Woods to see the look on our faces as we say, "OH SH IT"!

    I mean just look at this logically. Woods career was over the moment HE decided to not complete that mission. He would have either gone to prison or been sent to peel 100,000 potatoes while his contract expired. There are plenty of SEALS to take his place, he was not that valuable of an asset. No one in the military is that valuable of an asset who shows they cannot complete a mission which the military deems necessary. No, I am not justifying missions, I am a student of Sun Tzu and knowing my situation.

    I have other issues with information shared in the second interview. I just do not believe all of Mr. Woods testimony about what happened in the military. We can agree or disagree on how we see Mr. Woods comments. From my experience, that part does not stand up logically. Some would say, so what, he is telling us important information. Is he really? What has he revealed that we have not heard before? Remember, repeat a lie often and the people begin to believe it. I do not believe we have anything energetically / miraculous coming Dec. 21, 2012. I do believe our environment can be manipulated by technology, politically, in the media to help us think a certain way and want certain changes. That's what I think is happening. We are being manipulated into a new world system, plain and simple.
    I'm with you 100% on this one US! When I saw 1st int. thought he seemed sincere, but the more I think about it, it does'nt feel quite right. And while we're talking about minipulating people, I think something is going on with Bill Ryan, but have'nt quite figured it out yet. After all he had a priviledged childhood, his father created the face recognition computer program for the govt he was working for. It really is'nt a far reach to think he's being used for their benefit too. At this point I trust nobody but myself and my wife. Also that Inelia claimed if someone was having financial problems she would send her cd's for free- Well last summer I was having financial troubles because I was raising my nephew because his mom is a heroin addict. She never replied to me or sent any cd's- SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE. The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction. Will I be banned now for speaking MY truth?? We shall see soon enough!
    Did you write Inelia back? It might just be an oversight? I am careful with feelings in regards to reading people. Yes, I do read energetically, but it's important to look for facts. I can tell you that I have never gotten the, "I'm really pulling on over on them" energy from Bill Ryan. I can tell you that something seems off in the last three interviews I have watched with Kerry. Something seems off. This is not meant as an attack on Kerry btw. It feels more like she's stepped into some crap, it's stuck to her foot and she's doing her damdest to shake it off and move on sort of feeling.

    I tend to call things as I see them. It's my opinion and we all have one, so that's just my take on it. I've never been an A$$ kisser, and my friends can speak the truth to me as well. If it's coming from a friend whom I know loves and cares about me I don't take it as a slight to just hurt me, but to help. If it's coming from someone who is not a friend, then it is just an attack to belittle me, try to get me to comply and / or stfu which never works with me.

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    Quote The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction.
    Particularly to those for whom this belief is active and thus reality sends what is believed in to be experienced and then beliefs are confirmed, as always.

    using Bill Ryan and Inelia as examples of suspected liars/manipulators....
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    I watched about 30 minutes of this today..and had enough of this stuff!
    I'm sticking to my original statement that the guy is a fraud. Period! the guy claims to be a navy seal on seal team 9, a team that 'doesn't exist'..
    On near every forum they all say he is a joke and a fraud impersonator. So this just aint me going off on a rant.
    Also i did a quick search on dog pile and many forums also agree with my assessment that he is a fraud.Let me cut and paste a few comments others have made on this 'Wild Bill Wood"
    Quote It was quite an interview. But I went back and looked at it again. Something didn’t feel right so I did a little research. At around the 50:20 mark, he tells a blatant lie that casts doubt on the entire interview. He said the age of consent back at the time of the so-called rape of a 16 year old, was age 18. In fact, the California age of consent laws were changed from age 16 to 18 back in 1913. Casts a big doubt in my mind about his credibility.
    Quote If you check with the folks who keep track of such things you will find that Bill Wood is not now nor has he ever been a Navy Seal. He is a fraud. Nothing he says can be believed.
    Quote You can believe this man if you like, however it is clear to those who should know, that he is making false claims about his military service and actions. Please make the inquiries yourself, there are several options available to you. The fact that he is promoting the tale of the known fraud Dan Burisch/Dan Crain/Dan Catselas (three names, is that a clue?) is also a good indicator of this fellows lack of credibility.
    Quote Utter bull****, and he's a fraud and a liar.

    Do a search next time.
    Quote n the video Bill Wood claims to have been apart of top secret SEAL TEAM 9 and bombed civillians in Iraq after the gulf war, but thats not all he also claims to have been trained in Psi-ops and all sorts of weird stuff.

    but at the very start he says this is all to promote his BS book.

    Too bad Former Navy SEAL Don Shipley has quickly busted him, and suspects that he is using a fake name, and has called for help to find out who this BS artist truly is.
    Quote I used to be a Navy SEAL like you, then I took an bullet in the knee...
    I think I could turn and live with animals. They are so placid and self-contained. They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins. They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God. Not one of them kneels to another or to his own kind that lived thousands of years ago. Not one of them is respectable or unhappy, all over the earth. " Lord SummerIsle

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by Alie (here)
    Don't you think they are doing their best to do "due diligence" before they associate their names with these whistleblowers? Don't you think they have resources we will NOT have (and probably never will have) access to? Are these people human and could they be duped (possibly but unlikely) and provide us BAD "intel? Of course, but that's not their intention.
    Ummm, no I don't think Kerry provided any proof or even attempted to mention it in the first interview that she had vetted Mr. Woods. How about some simple enlistment paperwork, or his exit paperwork, or his court martial paperwork. When was the last time you ever were involved in any legal preceedings that you did not get some paperwork?

    How about a photo or two in the fields with is fellow soldiers? As I said, I've never met a soldier who did not have that, and he probably has some, but he didn't show them. He can cover up their faces. I actually do think he was in the military, but where are the basic proofs? Ok, set that all aside and think like someone who is responsible for completing missions and his men's / bases safety.

    I did a little role playing the other day in my mind. I put myself in a role of a commanding officer over Mr. Wood's SEAL team. I said, if I were commanding this team, and they were doing highly classified missions and the guy with his finger on the guiding system fire controls for a million dollar deadly weapon suddenly gets a conscience and fails to complete his mission, would I send him back into the field to do even more unsavory tasks as indicated by Mr. Woods first interview?

    My first priority is to complete missions and to protect my men. If a soldier is no longer trustworthy and is in direct control of such a powerful weapon as a guided tomahawk, would I give him another one to use? Forget the waste of letting it hit a "safe" area of dirt, what about him turning it around and using it on say a forward base of ours? I can see the scene,

    I'm sipping coffee and talking with General X, and he says, "So, what's up with your boy Woods?" Setting my cup down, "Well Sir, we really taught him a lesson! We court martialed him to put him at even more mental stress, and he is out in the field thirty miles from here getting ready to hit that school full of those little girls to put pressure on the village to comply." The General stands up and says, "You stupid mother ❤❤❤❤er, you did what?" and just as I hear those words an alarm sounds and in comes a tomahawk with a nice camera on it for Woods to see the look on our faces as we say, "OH SH IT"!

    I mean just look at this logically. Woods career was over the moment HE decided to not complete that mission. He would have either gone to prison or been sent to peel 100,000 potatoes while his contract expired. There are plenty of SEALS to take his place, he was not that valuable of an asset. No one in the military is that valuable of an asset who shows they cannot complete a mission which the military deems necessary. No, I am not justifying missions, I am a student of Sun Tzu and knowing my situation.

    I have other issues with information shared in the second interview. I just do not believe all of Mr. Woods testimony about what happened in the military. We can agree or disagree on how we see Mr. Woods comments. From my experience, that part does not stand up logically. Some would say, so what, he is telling us important information. Is he really? What has he revealed that we have not heard before? Remember, repeat a lie often and the people begin to believe it. I do not believe we have anything energetically / miraculous coming Dec. 21, 2012. I do believe our environment can be manipulated by technology, politically, in the media to help us think a certain way and want certain changes. That's what I think is happening. We are being manipulated into a new world system, plain and simple.
    I'm with you 100% on this one US! When I saw 1st int. thought he seemed sincere, but the more I think about it, it does'nt feel quite right. And while we're talking about minipulating people, I think something is going on with Bill Ryan, but have'nt quite figured it out yet. After all he had a priviledged childhood, his father created the face recognition computer program for the govt he was working for. It really is'nt a far reach to think he's being used for their benefit too. At this point I trust nobody but myself and my wife. Also that Inelia claimed if someone was having financial problems she would send her cd's for free- Well last summer I was having financial troubles because I was raising my nephew because his mom is a heroin addict. She never replied to me or sent any cd's- SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE. The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction. Will I be banned now for speaking MY truth?? We shall see soon enough!
    Did you write Inelia back? It might just be an oversight? I am careful with feelings in regards to reading people. Yes, I do read energetically, but it's important to look for facts. I can tell you that I have never gotten the, "I'm really pulling on over on them" energy from Bill Ryan. I can tell you that something seems off in the last three interviews I have watched with Kerry. Something seems off. This is not meant as an attack on Kerry btw. It feels more like she's stepped into some crap, it's stuck to her foot and she's doing her damdest to shake it off and move on sort of feeling.

    I tend to call things as I see them. It's my opinion and we all have one, so that's just my take on it. I've never been an A$$ kisser, and my friends can speak the truth to me as well. If it's coming from a friend whom I know loves and cares about me I don't take it as a slight to just hurt me, but to help. If it's coming from someone who is not a friend, then it is just an attack to belittle me, try to get me to comply and / or stfu which never works with me.
    I sent situation info through her website and my wifes FB, as I refuse to have a FB account. Explained situation thoroughly. Bill is a likeable guy but I do'nt think all his cards are on the table for all to see yet. But that is just MY gut feeling about the situation. Not looking to start a riot, just stating how I feel.

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    Quote Posted by crested-duck (here)
    I'm with you 100% on this one US! When I saw 1st int. thought he seemed sincere, but the more I think about it, it does'nt feel quite right. And while we're talking about minipulating people, I think something is going on with Bill Ryan, but have'nt quite figured it out yet. After all he had a priviledged childhood, his father created the face recognition computer program for the govt he was working for. It really is'nt a far reach to think he's being used for their benefit too. At this point I trust nobody but myself and my wife. Also that Inelia claimed if someone was having financial problems she would send her cd's for free- Well last summer I was having financial troubles because I was raising my nephew because his mom is a heroin addict. She never replied to me or sent any cd's- SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE. The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction. Will I be banned now for speaking MY truth?? We shall see soon enough!
    Hmm an old saying comes to mind....

    Question EVERYTHING, always.

    Thank you for your story on your "Inelia" experience.... she I would lump into wilford/ fulcock & this new guy... I personaly agree with your points and highly doubt you will be banned for this, do not live or act in fear (even of banning) you are then comprimising your true self

    stay skeptical, stay questioning... if it feels right, double check i then go with it, if not, do the same! effort = gains in 3d... don't be afraid to break a sweat :D

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    [I'm with you 100% on this one US! When I saw 1st int. thought he seemed sincere, but the more I think about it, it does'nt feel quite right. And while we're talking about minipulating people, I think something is going on with Bill Ryan, but have'nt quite figured it out yet. After all he had a priviledged childhood, his father created the face recognition computer program for the govt he was working for. It really is'nt a far reach to think he's being used for their benefit too. At this point I trust nobody but myself and my wife. Also that Inelia claimed if someone was having financial problems she would send her cd's for free- Well last summer I was having financial troubles because I was raising my nephew because his mom is a heroin addict. She never replied to me or sent any cd's- SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE. The lies come in all shapes and sizes and come from every direction. Will I be banned now for speaking MY truth?? We shall see soon enough!
    Did you write Inelia back? It might just be an oversight? I am careful with feelings in regards to reading people. Yes, I do read energetically, but it's important to look for facts. I can tell you that I have never gotten the, "I'm really pulling on over on them" energy from Bill Ryan. I can tell you that something seems off in the last three interviews I have watched with Kerry. Something seems off. This is not meant as an attack on Kerry btw. It feels more like she's stepped into some crap, it's stuck to her foot and she's doing her damdest to shake it off and move on sort of feeling.

    I tend to call things as I see them. It's my opinion and we all have one, so that's just my take on it. I've never been an A$$ kisser, and my friends can speak the truth to me as well. If it's coming from a friend whom I know loves and cares about me I don't take it as a slight to just hurt me, but to help. If it's coming from someone who is not a friend, then it is just an attack to belittle me, try to get me to comply and / or stfu which never works with me.[/QUOTE]

    I agree I don't sense mallace, actually I don't sense mallace in any of them, not as a primary modivator anyway...

    & while I do agree that money needs to be made to live & not many people are lucky enough to extensively research like some of us can...

    but to ME... the FUNDAMENTAL IDEA behind a website like this.. a MOVEMENT like this...

    Money, profit, EXCLUSIVENESS IN ANY FORM OR MANNOR have NO PLACE WHAT SO EVER


    the book pushing by wilcock was a touch much in this one.... Offer it for free with a donation link, I'd donate if the info was worthy.. I download songs then buy them if I like them... I financialy support that which I wish to see more of, all of us do (if not conciously(awarely?)).
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    [QUOTE=Brodie75;411589]
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    Well having watched it I have to say I didn't think he actually said much at all. Did I miss something?.
    For someone who admits to not seeing all of the interview you sure do have a lot to say.
    Before further comment maybe you could go back and actually watch it all.
    It would certainly add to your credibility.
    I watched about 15 minutes and skimmed the written part of what was said.
    But before I go in and spend 3 hours on my life listening to a dude I NEVER heard of before I like to do a quick google search to find out who this person is and if he has credit.Well that google search lead me to discover many things about this guy..thus why waste my time listening to a liar hoax? I am offended by this man! I am a former US Army veteran of the 2nd gulf war, and a man who lies about being in the military and in a war zone dont fly with me! My battalion lost 7 dead while our time there..and this man who claims a fictions act of being a war zone soldier just smears in the face of my fallen comrades who did serve..and all this to just promote his BS book. A quick google search will reveal he never was a navy seal.
    Here is a photo of me when I was in the army..I have YET to see one photo of him in a uniform!
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    Wether Bill Wood is genuine or not surely we can give him a bit of time to put his case ??
    I am not being nieve, like every discussion on this forum you can come at it from any angle you want....
    Its easier to talk face to face to express views than write them here , in work me, Ecnal & winston
    have gone thru the spectrum, he's a fantasist, plant to bring more discredit to kerry & David, etc..etc..
    Or he is possibly what he says he is and has important info, I think we should give him the benefit of
    the doubt for a few weeks and see what 'they' deliver....
    If nothing we are no worse off than we were last week...imho......

    I just watched this....sort of related guilty until proven innocent...

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    If you look at D W and B W facial expression when B R asked for an update in a months time,,,,, they could not hold back there smiles,,,,
    big smiles,,,,,
    Its like they know that big things will be known by all before next month,,,,,,
    And for D W to say that full E T Disclosure is nothing compared to whats going to happen` says something IMHO,,,,, as disclosure was a big deal for him,,,,, Plus im happy to say i have never seen D W come across so grounded,,,,,, its good to see him with his feet back on Earth.
    As for the ring around his eyes,,,,,, hope he aint havin any organ problems,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    B W said that the good guys have won,,,,,,, that there (elites) days of terror are over
    But unfortunately when i look up,,,,,,,, im still seeing chemtrail spraying in abundance every day here in ireland

    Hope.

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