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    I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject.
    Mulder, you've raised a big issue here. In addition to my first reply to this question above, let me describe what I have experienced. Just after turning eight I discovered I could do "miracle" healings -- with some kind of help via what must have been my own g.a.s. The first one was on my mother. She had had a ruptured appendix for over three hours before she got to hospital, and she was extremely allergic to the penicillin the doctors were initially trying to keep her alive with. I tried to "pray" in accordance with the Christian teaching, though mostly I found myself generating and sending huge amounts of very bright white light, plus a very strong intention. My mother was working full-time again in a busy job before the week was up. The family doctor -- a man of science and scepticism -- said it was the biggest miracle he had seen in 35 years of practice. Mostly I needed to heal my mother of her depression -- because as an adult I realise she was trying to commit suicide. The psychological/emotional side to healing is always at least 99% of the healing, even though the immediately tangible results will be physical. In doing this I also managed to move the negative or dark energies out of the 3D and 4D worlds.

    Later on, in my twenties, moving those energies out of 3D and 4D was what I came to know as "ascension". Everything is alive. All the negativities or problems or ego inside a person is alive. If someone (which can be the person themselves) practises some type of psychotherapy on a person, or its equivalent, that may dislodge little or even large electromagnetic fields which are darkly oriented. These will then go floating through the ether, looking for another human being to latch onto. Perhaps a new-born infant, who are the most vulnerable to this. It's therefore highly irresponsible to do any kind of psychotherapy / etc on others unless you clean up afterwards.

    In my twenties I learned to "run the energies" of others and of myself, but initially I didn't think of combining that with a proper psychic healing. Instead I learnt an "ascension" method for sending all the negative energies that came off a client up into 5D. The method I used at that time was the ascension ritual of the Kosmon "Church". They weren't a Christian organisation, but they claimed to be the first religion ever on the planet. Their book is the book of Oahspe, though many of them also seem to swear by the book of Urantia as well. They claimed that they worked with "angels" who took all the greeblies up and away. I guess they may well have been healing angels, who at least sometimes come from the fifth dimension where as far as I know g.a.s are always at least 6D. When a client ended cycle on an issue I would usually see violet light coming in, which I came to know as the healing angels who took the nasties upstairs. Today I no longer need to call on their help because they come anyway, and I suspect I can "ascend" the nasties into 5D on my own now. But it took much practice and time and work before I learnt how to do this.

    These "nasties" that I refer to are like very tiny personalities. They're not like an entire you, whereas the past-life personalities usually are kind of equal in size to your current identity.

    One very simple ascension method for ascension of the little nasties is as follows. Close your eyes in a well-lit room and "look" at which parts of the room you are in seem darker. Wherever it seems to be darker, that's where there's a little patch of darker energy. Simply keep your awareness on it, and it will grow lighter and then disappear.

    I have to add that the only way you can ever get rid of anything that's part of your dark or negative side is by first totally accepting it. Paradoxically, that is what gets rid of it. I don't mean go out and be rude , nasty, violent, or whatever. But I do mean please be honest enough with yourself to face what's hiding between the cracks and in the shadows inside you, that you may only ever glimpse momentarily. You can only be good by first becoming good. Unfortunately, for centuries religions have told people to "be good", and as a result people hide from themselves all the ways in which they aren't currently good.
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    Quote I have to add that the only way you can ever get rid of anything that's part of your dark or negative side is by first totally accepting it. Paradoxically, that is what gets rid of it. I don't mean go out and be rude , nasty, violent, or whatever. But I do mean please be honest enough with yourself to face what's hiding between the cracks and in the shadows inside you, that you may only ever glimpse momentarily. You can only be good by first becoming good. Unfortunately, for centuries religions have told people to "be good", and as a result people hide from themselves all the ways in which they aren't currently good.
    I totally agree with this, wholeheartdly, we are human beings, good/bad, black/white,nasty/nice, whoever says that they are just 'nice' is lieing to oneself, that is why i hate the dogmatic religions, they only teach 'fear'. If you don't stick to a code of conduct, you are out. However it is living by this code of conduct, that represses the 'dark' within them, it also makes them think 'they are above' other people, ive found particularly the christian faith to be like this, one half of my family are 'christians', the other broke away from it, now there is a divide between those who beleif & those who dont. However those that dont, dont have anything against those that do, where as they ones that do, definitly have something against the ones that dont. This has been clear for nearly twenty years. If we dont follow what their beleifs are, we are wrong, sinners etc etc! Any god who treats his house like a members only club is not God to me! However it does not make me any better or worse than those who beleif in it. I just prefer to acknowledge that i am all i was, all i am, & all i ever will be! That is accepting ones weaknesses and seeing them as strengths. Accepting i am not perfect. I have spiritual beleifs, however my faith is my biggest problem, as i never can take the leap x

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    Araucaria’s makes the criticism that I would seem to be setting up an “us versus them” dichotomy in describing how g.a.s differ from the average human, so to speak. My reply to this is as follows. In all my experience, all ETs see themselves as being ultimately at one with, and sharing a sameness with, human beings. And that is quite different from the way many humans – possibly including a number of members of the Forum, it would seem -- often automatically presume that any and all ETs are very “other”. In what I have read, it seems that even negative, or supposedly negative, ETs also think of themselves as ultimately “same as” rather than “different from” humans.

    As I mentioned in posts #4 and #6 in the Spirituality thread ‘Request to the archangels’, there is a very precise reason why the angelic beings do not intervene or interfere beyond a certain point. This has effectively nothing to do with the angelic beings lacking the power to do so. They do have the power. It’s simply because the only way a community – including the whole human community – can be saved is by (largely) saving itself, though with some support and skills enhancement; plus intervention whenever things get really sticky and beyond humanity’s apparent ability to handle at the time. And yes, araucaria, in that sense you are right. I certainly am using a dichotomy between humans and g.a.s – but it only exists because in fact most of humanity is not as yet ready for the freedoms of living in the sixth dimension.

    I’m sure many Avalonians are of recent ET origin. I’ll bet that, like me, they are interested in the topics discussed on Avalon because they have a memory or at least a strong sense that society can easily be more utopian than it currently is on Earth. Kind of like our society, only not as insane, not as corrupt, not as violent and ungenerous.

    The problem regarding being perceived as “different” was for me – and I assume it’s similar for any ET incarnating as a human – that I found it insufferably unnatural not to be original in the way I did even small things. And that made me and still makes me seem extremely “other” or “different” to other humans. It was they – the other humans -- who had and have the problem, not me, I believe -- though I'm always looking for how to adapt better.

    That is undoubtedly why I chose to be born to immigrant parents in Australia. I needed to learn about being “different”. When I was a child in the fifties in Australia, the racial prejudice was enormous. Most migrants – probably 90% -- of my parents’ generation felt there was something extremely shameful and dirty about themselves purely because they were migrants. Instead of standing up to the idiocy of racial prejudice, they internalised it and beat themselves up. They never got over it. It was jawdropping for me to see.

    As an adult, I can understand that for my parents and compatriots the second world war was like suddenly going bankrupt, only worse. They suddenly lost everything they had owned and everything they were familiar with. Australia at the time did not recognize any tertiary qualifications except from Oxford or Cambridge Universities. My parents and their compatriots had no option but to start afresh at the bottom of the social ladder – initially as de facto slaves. Imagine getting up in the morning and everywhere you go and in everything you do you see the evidence. The “evidence” that for all your best efforts and everything you thought you had built in your life, you now see that it was not enough. Because everywhere you go, you are treated like the lowest of the low. You would have to advanced a very long way in not giving the ego too much significance not to jump to severe negative conclusions about yourself. That was what it was like to be a migrant in Australia in the fifties and sixties. That was what it was like to be considered “other” or “different”.

    I remember on one occasion in 1961 a fellow classmate had invited me over to his house. I arrived on my bicycle. The house was in the poor end of town, but had a large curved driveway made of gravel and stones. As my bicycle entered the driveway I noticed my classmate and his sister were throwing small stones at me. I then noticed their father was there as well. He was throwing larger rocks. Unlike his kids, he seemed to be aiming to hit my bike, if not me. He said something about how I didn’t deserve to live in Australia because the migrants were taking jobs away from Australians. Two rocks hit my bike’s spokes and caused some damage, but not enough to prevent me from turning around and riding on. Admittedly, that was an isolated incident. But it does give an idea of the rejection that I continually received in subtler forms simply because I had a migrant surname.

    Racism, of course, is one of the practical manifestations of "dumbing down" -- along with all the other "isms". Sexism, homophobia, ageism (prejudice against employing older people; and yet most psychologists who study intelligence now agree that a person reaches peak intelligence in their fifties or sixties); discrimination against people with a disability, and so on.

    I’m sure that all ETs incarnated as humans do their best to adapt and be “ordinary”. At the same time, they have the dilemma that they also need to stay true to themselves. I’m sure they also have a stronger connection with their Higher Self than humans generally do, because they have some kind of maybe vague memory of how it was when they lived in a higher dimension.
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    In this post I will briefly describe what I believe I know about “fallen angels”. I observe there is all sorts of speculation on this Forum regarding these and similar. Most of the speculation seems to be based on limited experience or no experience.

    Firstly, as far as my experience goes these are virtually synonymous with some, if not most, demonic beings or entities. My first encounters with such an entity occurred between the ages of six and up until I was almost nine. Most nights, before I went to sleep I would notice that there was some kind of demonic entity –the same one every time -- that appeared to be outside my bedroom window. I would do my best to pray for or ask for protection from it. Eventually I noticed that as soon as I stopped feeling fear, the entity had to leave. I also came to the conclusion that the protection and self-healing I invoked each night always apparently, worked, despite my initial fears.

    As time went on, eventually I noticed that demonic entities seemed to have no power at all unless a person invited them in. Later, I discovered that, at least in the fourth dimension, all demonic beings and “fallen gods” have been permanently banished since over three thousand years ago. (I take it, then, that the stories about how the fallen angels fell from heaven are talking about a period thousands of years ago, and therefore don’t including the subsequent banning of the “dark angels” from being on this planet.) The only thing that’s left is their personalities. These are electromagnetic fields that have a little consciousness but are nowhere as powerful as the original being, even though they contain all the knowledge the original being had. Also, the personalities, which can live for up to a few thousand years, are continually growing weaker, and will eventually die (“burn up in hell fire”).

    This is why somebody like the Black Pope, for instance, would have been no match for a human with sufficiently strong positive healing energies. In her interview with Bill Ryan, Inelia describes how she was sent to heal the then Black Pope, even though in that interview she doesn’t identify who he was. It’s no surprise to me to hear that after her healing visits that lasted I think three full weeks, he experienced the most extraordinary breakthrough. The dark energies aren’t somehow equally matched to the energies of light. (Why the endless paranoia on this Forum? Be paranoid about nasty humans, folks. If they weren’t there, no (personalities of) “dark angels” or whatever would cause even a minor problem.) The dark energies have no choice but to retreat and grow smaller and smaller, or be removed altogether and ascend into a different dimension, now converted into a positive form.

    Sometimes when I am doing a psychic healing I see black or dark brown figures appear and try to challenge me. What happens is that they very quickly retreat or disappear or get dissolved, because that's what happens when you shine pure (healing) light on them. I experienced this recently. The client was somebody who was very strict, very self-disciplined. Yes, true spirituality does require a certain amount of self-discipline and self-denial. But it also requires at least as much of being kind to yourself. Anyway, any Christian reader will probably hate that I say it became very clear that this client’s self-discipline was full of black energy. The client was a devout Christian. During the healing I also initially saw three black entities who were parental or grandparental personalities of that client, who had been brought up in a traditional Chinese way. (This means that as a child you’re not supposed to have any opinions of your own. You’re supposed to adopt your parents’ opinions, no correspondence entered into.) It turned out that the asthma this client was suffering from had a psychological cause. My fifteen minute healing apparently made the asthma much weaker. However, as long as this client continues to be so strict with herself and her family, I suspect some asthma may still affect her – because her strictness, of which she is so self-righteously proud, is unfortunately made of dark energy.
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    Quote Posted by nf857 (here)
    As for me my biggest problem is 'faith' ive learnt that my 'human flaw' is 'faith', i think because maybe ive been very 'unfaithful' before, i was brought up with the most 'difficult' parents, parents that abuse, 'toxic parents' they not just abuse the body, they abuse the mind as well, almost playing games with your 'mind'. I then had the 'worse' friends growing up, they were not nice friends, friends you can trust, they would just 'use' you, not that i mind being 'used' ever, which dumbfounds most people, however im a martyr so i just dont mind at all.

    ... im constantly in bed with severe M.E/Fibromyalgia, which i know is a man-made disease, ive done all the research into this, it is 'the control' we all talk about' so i am being punished by 'the control' for questioning it? How would the nature spirits reverse this? As this was not 'Natural' it was done by either injection/pollution in the sky/or a bite?
    ...
    Are we not in the same repression? Are we not these beings? In all its many forms? How does a cat feel? We always few domestic cats as 'having the life of luxury' however do they view it as the life of luxury? They were once free to roam the lands, now they are in 'servitude' to humans in a sense as they 'depend' on our 'feeding' them, 'nurturing' them etc etc. Which is why parenting ideals are useless? Well they were in my case anyway, im sure people have had lots of positive parenting, however ive found that those with the most 'positive parenting' grow up with an 'un-realistic' view of 'reality'. They dont seem to be able to handle it. Which makes me think hmmm my awful parenting was a great lesson, 'trial from adversity'. Are you a mother? Can you relate to this from a parents perspective? As parents go off there parenting & down the family tree we go lol!

    P.S Please tell us the 'gory' details, tells us everything,in this section we can handle it, we have seen enough of it to be able to already, im sure we all want to know this, as 'dolphins' are the most 'nicest/intelligent' creature on 'earth' we want to know, what was created inside of them, it was not their fault at all? P.S thanks for the description of the horse creatures, could you email me a drawing of them? x
    Firstly, nf857, I've noticed that it seems that among my friends and acquaintances, past and present (in this lifetime), it's more common than not for at least one parent or sibling or spouse to be insane or very abusive. I wouldn't see that as a weakness or as a bad card that fate has dealt you. I'd see it as a kind of compliment to be given such a tougher challenge to solve, which will undoubtedly help one evolve faster, provided they learn to be strong enough to cope. If you're really a martyr as you say, surely that's never a smart thing to be. (You asked for some advice?)

    Secondly, some conditions are very chronic and can't be healed even in a number of sessions. But if it's possible for you to get out of bed long enough to visit natural places, I'm sure you'll get some healing help from the nature spirits there. Even if it should not bring much by way of physical improvement, they'll bring healing to the inner you so that you can handle the fibromyalgia better.

    Most domestic cats are quite happy as far as I know, provided at least some person or creature shows them regular affection.

    As for "details", gory or otherwise, let me offer this. The land-based form was about two or three feet tall, but quite long – maybe as long as a dolphin today. It had a shape which was oddly similar to that of the Australian platypus. You can look up platypuses on the internet, I guess. It was several times bigger than a platypus and it had a long “snout” like a horse instead of the duck bill that the platypus has. But they both usually have a body covered with brown fur, as far as I remember, and a huge broad tail. The fur may well have been what they wore to keep warm, though. Maybe also not unlike a giant brown horse-like rabbit, minus long ears.

    The most vivid memory I have is that not long before the land-based ones escaped from the tyranny, some of them had large chunks of steel inserted in their bodies, particularly in one of the front limbs and near the shoulder. This made movement excruciatingly painful for them, and also adversely affected their hearts. Somehow all the land-based ones knew that this had been done to some of them. I don’t know if it was some sort of attempt to half-robotise these creatures, but I do know it was horribly painful for them. I also know that it backfired, completely. It spurred them on to develop their technology more quickly, even though they had to do so in secret. The guardian angels were shocked by the metal insertions, and did intervene to a greater degree than they would be willing to do today. Unless, of course, the ruling elite should become foolish enough to try to half-robotise the human population. I’m pretty sure the higher ET races would simply not tolerate such a move. I don’t remember all the details of all the oppression that happened. But I remember that this was the worst thing.
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    I happen to know that before a human lifetime is even conceived, you go through a process of carefully selecting and identifying, with expert advice, what purposes or goals you plan to achieve or work on in that lifetime. (Then you get to watch something like movies about your potential parents, you choose your parents, you "eat" a special energy the g.a.s give you that somehow cords you to those parents' sperm and ovum, and off you go, tumbling down to Earth.)

    After you are born, as an adult you can get some idea of what your true lifetime purposes and goals might be by keeping a diary of your dreams, if possible. They are the things you keep not wanting to face, or not face fully. It’s possible to identify these if you just take each dream as a picture of part of whatever it is that you currently don’t want to face. It’s a tough planet to be on, a tough school. Interestingly, too, you can then take a second look at your dream as a picture of some of your biggest strengths or best qualities. You can then celebrate and continue to develop that side of yourself too, making the school less tough after all.

    Although I don’t know the full details, I believe I know that many ETs have incarnated as humans at this time on certain special projects. As far as I can tell, the majority of them did not come as full volunteers, as I apparently did. They came because it was semi-compulsory. I guess it’s a little like having to complete a certain number of units in some category before you can receive a university degree or other qualification. But in the last five decades or so, Earth has obviously been a popular "unit" to "enrol in". Most such incarnated ETs seem to be working in what are known as the helping professions, or the caring professions: social work, education, health, counselling, and so on and on. Their choice of profession must presumably have something to do with their assigned project in each case.

    I know I came with an assignment to gather understanding and information in certain areas, for the benefit of both improving my own work as a g.a. and to fill in some gaps for other g.a.s But my “project assignment” seems to have been considerably vaguer than with the other types of ET incarnates. For instance, my parents had very fixed ideas of what kinds of occupations were suitable for me, which they conveyed to me in various ways even at a young age. The caring or helping professions were very much at the bottom of their list, no doubt almost equal to a life of crime or toilet cleaning. So, before I could comfortably work in any of those professions I would have had to overcome some of the deepest parental conditioning placed on me. You can eventually remove layers of conditioning from yourself, rather like removing layers of an onion. But then you get to the bottom-most layer. I certainly haven’t been able to remove most of that, and I’m not sure if anyone does so fully.

    For this reason, it seems clear that before I was born, part of the plan was for me to have lengthy experiences of some areas that were very dissimilar to the general kind of work that g.a.s do. And so it has turned out, that over half my areas of work have not been in the fields of helping/caring or the fine arts. My work experience has covered a huge diversity of fields. I guess the idea was to make good use of my ticket to Earth, if possible.

    In anyone's life, however, as we grow more and more in emotional maturity with each year, at some point we may realise that all the pieces fit together into an integrated whole. Every piece had a purpose, and we even chose it at some level. For example, I worked for over five years in or near relatively senior levels of corporate environments, where I got to see the workings of the ruling elite being implemented and the whole type of milieu in which it was done. A world where money was really no object. I now appreciate why that form of work was a part of my information-gathering assignment.
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    A little something that I found today.

    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
    Plato

    Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
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    I have observed that a person’s g.a.s mostly stay in the borderland between the fifth and sixth dimensions. They do come down lower, but then retreat back to that location. For instance, on rare occasions they will intervene to avert something like a serious accident, and to do so they will briefly and temporarily enter the 3D world.

    By staying mostly in the fifth/sixth dimensional border, they are really nested almost inside the person, but at a high level. The sixth-dimensional part of a person is a very interesting thing. You can truly say it isn’t a “self” or “mind”, or that it is “beyond” any self and mind, at least in some senses of those words. Let me explain a little.

    The sixth-dimensional part of a person isn’t selfish. It isn’t motivated to act to satisfy the personality or ego – or whatever/whoever a person usually thinks they are. Instead, it knows that who we really are is the universe, even if it’s the universe as seen from one particular, unique “angle”. The sixth-dimensional part is identical (or close to it) to what many would call the Higher Self. Many Christians would call it God, or Christ. I’d like to point out that it does actually act a lot, and often, in the 3D and 4D world. The 3D, 4D and 5D worlds are the province of the ego. How the 6D part comes in is that without it all the negative emotions like jealousy, greed, fear, etc would run riot. The 6D part is what brings balance and peace and maturity into our emotions and feelings. It’s what brings peace, period. So it (or, if you like, the Higher Self) is an everyday thing, even though many people are unaware that such a profound thing is continually there in all the ordinary activities of their life.

    (And I don’t see the ego as something bad, at all. Unless it tries to be the captain of the ship, which is the 6D part’s job, rather than just doing its job as the ship’s lookout.)

    In the small number of individuals I’ve known who I’m sure are incarnated g.a.s, and also in others who are at least relatively recently incarnated ETs from another dimension, there is an enormous inner motivation, an enormous drivenness. This is because they were all born without losing a strong sense of the presence of their 6D part. Even though through incarnating into 3D they may initially see it kind of “through a glass, foggily”, these individuals differ from most others in that they absolutely sense that the 6D part is what’s more real and more true, and they sense this strongly even from childhood.

    They march to that “other” drummer, even if, at least in childhood and adolescence, they may not be clear where that drummer is leading them. Doesn’t matter. Imagine being born into a world you can clearly see from the start is insane. I mean, life is mostly made up of relationships and work. But on this planet, genuine relationship is substituted for by attachment, which is an absolute mockery of true relationship. Similarly, instead of being something joyful and playful, work is sold as being something a person hates – and so the person becomes a house divided against itself because they then spend moiré than half their effort on resisting their own hate/boredom instead of on doing the job.

    It’s interesting that the g.a.s prefer to stay just at the threshold of their protegee’s 6D part. I’ll say more about this in my next post.
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    I have been reading about G.A.s and studying this issue because I identify with central aspects of the G.A.s. I just read that guardian angels are actually 6th dimensional aspects of our own multidimensional selves. This actually makes a degree of sense to me.

    Question(s): Would you say that all or most G.A.s in human incarnation are also Indigo? Indigos are considered to have 5th and 6th DNA strands activated.

    How does an incarnated G.A. differ from an incarnated Starseed for example? I think that my specific question is more along the line of, what are the differences in species-classifications between the consciousness of the G.A.s and the Starseeds, again for example? Angels are classified differently from extraterrestrials or humans. What is that difference?
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    Quote Posted by Snowbird (here)
    I have been reading about G.A.s and studying this issue because I identify with central aspects of the G.A.s. I just read that guardian angels are actually 6th dimensional aspects of our own multidimensional selves. This actually makes a degree of sense to me.

    Question(s): Would you say that all or most G.A.s in human incarnation are also Indigo? Indigos are considered to have 5th and 6th DNA strands activated.

    How does an incarnated G.A. differ from an incarnated Starseed for example? I think that my specific question is more along the line of, what are the differences in species-classifications between the consciousness of the G.A.s and the Starseeds, again for example? Angels are classified differently from extraterrestrials or humans. What is that difference?
    Snowbird, I'm glad to hear that you're recognising you evidently have recent ET origins, and have possibly or probably been an angel in the recent past. As I've said, it was certainly a massively liberating experience for me when my own origins got confirmed. Probably more liberating and more of a relief than anything else in my life.

    My best understanding is as follows. All angels are strictly volunteers. Incarnated angels are doubly volunteers, because being in human form means taking a rest from the guardian angel role. I understand that role is to be a “watcher who sees the very big picture” and a “subtle influencer/teacher, and protector in extreme or sticky situations” throughout the life of the human being the g.a. is assigned to.

    Most star seeds, to my quite limited knowledge and observation, aren’t full volunteers. It’s not so much that they incarnate in this vale of tears as a “punishment”. It’s more that their career opportunities, for lack of a better term, are limited unless they acquire further qualifications. And just getting through a lifetime on Earth is itself quite a qualification. I know you're asking for more details than that, but I can't find seem to them at present.

    Both star seeds and angels seem to have a finer, deeper level of sensitivity. As a result, they find themselves carrying the burden of the sadness of humanity in general. I remember how frequently in my childhood I used to spend time looking at photos of myself from some years earlier and wondering where the sadness in my face came from. I remember I would kind of resignedly think oh well, it’s just part of living in this society. Something inside me knew that life was originally meant to be fun, and is fun for everyone on many planets in 3D or 4D, no doubt.

    As far as I can tell, guardian angels are largely free of 3D and 4D “karma” but that’s not always true of all star seeds or indigos, as far as I’ve been able to observe. Being free of “karma” means something like having an extreme inner fineness or gentleness and a capacity to empathise with anybody and a certain kind of “well-roundedness” – in a way like in a sport team some players are “utilities” because they can play well both at offence and at defence and in different roles such as both forward and back. That sounds vague, I know. But if you look deep inside a person you can see how most people are very "lopsided" but some are very "rounded", kind of capable of being almost anything. I understand that the famous saying of Rabbi ben Hillel (from the first and second centuries BC) that "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth" was deliberately mistranslated in the Gospels. I understand a correct translation would replace "meek" with something like "adaptable".

    Unfortunately I don’t know know anything about the fifth or sixth strands of DNA.

    I would say that both star seeds/indigos and angels add significantly to the group consciousness of humanity just by incarnating. It may sound odd, but an important part of their contribution comes just from their being here.

    Finally, angels aren't really "classified differently from extraterrestrials". Rather, certain extraterrestrials, from many different ET races, volunteer to work as angels if they are so moved, and those extraterrestrials need to have achieved certain levels of evolvement before they are qualified to do that work.
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    yes, relate to this trainee:

    Both star seeds and angels seem to have a finer, deeper level of sensitivity. As a result, they find themselves carrying the burden of the sadness of humanity in general. I remember how frequently in my childhood I used to spend time looking at photos of myself from some years earlier and wondering where the sadness in my face came from. I remember I would kind of resignedly think oh well, it’s just part of living in this society. Something inside me knew that life was originally meant to be fun, and is fun for everyone on many planets in 3D or 4D, no doubt.

    the sadness i see looking at childhood photos
    i was told i did not smile much
    i specifically recall a period where i did not laugh.at all. for quite a spell of time...and birthday celebrations (when the song was sung) made me cry!

    and now...accepting this reality and finding/seeking/creating joy
    just makes "life" more easier and less painful
    yes, loving self is key. truly madly deeply loving self

    and this i have had to learn from scratch, so to speak.

    i am sure we could ask whether a cat is "happy" by communicating with them. they too are part of the dance, the gaia shift.....

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    I believe the reason why discovering my origins was such a liberating experience was that it enabled me to in a sense stop placing significance on anything in my current lifetime. Once I had confirmed for certain that guardian angels were saying I was very likely to be rejoining them in the near future, that took all the performance pressure off me. Now, in a sense, nothing mattered. Which amounted to a gigantic letting go of everything. Since then life still goes on, but the slate has somehow been wiped clean.

    I’ll say more below relating to the importance of having great detachment. Let me pause to explain now, though, that detachment doesn’t really have anything to do with a lack of involvement. The greater a person’s detachment, the more intensely they are able to let themselves be involved and the more deeply they are able to care about others and about the situation.

    In ancient Greek times, in fields such as art, literature and philosophy, everyone who created great works or great theories claimed to do so with the help of a “daemon”. That word used to mean what we now would mean by “angel” (ignoring the apparent misinfo of Doreen Virtue and some others today regarding angels), and it certainly didn't mean a "fallen angel" either.

    From the Elizabethan period to the nineteenth century, in England and Germany and other European countries, creative artists and intellectuals who were authors of major new theories also attributed their inspiration to their “daemon”.

    We find a record of almost all the famous figures in the arts in those centuries in those countries speaking of their “daemon” almost as if they were taking dictation from the latter. As I briefly explained in post #29, however, the 6D part of a person also seems like quite another person, or like God. That’s for anyone who becomes directly and precisely aware of its existence.

    So, it isn’t clear whether all the above famous creative individuals were tapping into their 6D part or into the consciousness of one or more of their guardian angels. The wonderful thing is that they managed to do it at all. (By contrast, most channelers would claim to be doing something similar but failing to do so.)

    As far as I know from my experience, there are only two ways to get there. One way is to deepen your sensitivity so finely that you become extremely vulnerable to deeply feeling any pain that is around. The more sensitivity – and therefore wondrous beauty – you develop, the greater the pain you are vulnerable to feeling. The only protection – the only peace – from such pain is if you have developed strong detachment. It seems clear all the Beethovens and van Goghs successfully did just that.

    The other way I know to become directly and constantly aware of your 6D part – your Higher Self – is through meditation or something equivalent. But for most people it seems to take the equivalent of at least a number of full-time person-years of full-on meditation to get there – maybe. Still, you readers are not just anybody off the street. With all the interest at Avalon about really unlocking our potential, I’d like to suggest that learning to live with and be frequently aware of your 6D part is a very good idea, and just about “compulsory” if you’re serious about unlocking your potential.

    As I mentioned in post #29, the 6D part is quite different from our personality. It’s also much wiser and saner. I have always thought of it as the “greatness” side to a person. Of course, in our society most people apparently haven’t turned on the ignition key of their greatness. And that’s because they’re not aware that it really is there. How dear that word “greatness” has been to my heart for most of my life, I can’t find words to explain.

    Surely the time has come for everybody here to start finding it, if they haven’t already. Doing so is enormously rewarding. The life and the experiences of the personality are so petty, so dull, so fake in comparison. Let’s think big, folks. It’s not that the 6D part is addictive, or that it’s an obsession. The 6D part is just simply the truth, the true heart. Often it can feel like the personality/mind is nothing but a vessel, through which the inspiration from the 6D part flows.

    At the risk of repetition, let me again say that the 6D part is very, very subtle. That sure makes it elusive to find. People who have recently incarnated as humans and were ETs before seem to find it, or at least sense it, naturally. It gives them huge motivation, or true inspiration. Some of us know that in the future all humans will be in continual contact with their 6D part. You truly can do it. But not overnight.

    It’s the pearl of very great price. Yes, it is as vast as the entire multiverse, And yes, as I said, it’s all inside of you. If you're a Christian and you object to the notion that you could in some sense actually be God, I hope you can at least aspire to be great, to rise up much closer to God in stature.
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    The previous post may have seemed to paint the sixth dimension as something very hard to access, so let me now backtrack a little and begin to talk about what the sixth dimension is like.

    Firstly, we all enter it and make use of it many times every day, however briefly. Much of the time a person will not be aware that they are entering it or using it. So let’s list some examples of when everybody is likely to use it.

    When a person is driving, they don’t make conscious calculations like: “My velocity is currently x and my angular momentum is currently y, so if I slow my velocity to x2 by the time I reach a further z meters, that will be the ideal speed for making a perfect turn right”. No, people make judgment calls while driving, mostly by pure “intuition” or “gut feeling” plus pure observation. They also use “instinct” or “intuition” to keep their awareness out for potential sudden hazards and to guess where these are likeliest to occur.

    Another example is playing sports. It seems clear to me that the biggest reason why most people find it entertaining to watch sports events is to watch the snap decisions which the players make as they “think on their feet”. But it’s not so much thinking, but rather it’s “intuition”, or “lateral thinking”, if you like.

    People also frequently use their “intuition” – maybe combined with the ego’s influence – to decide what “feels right” for them at any given moment.

    Whenever a person engages in problem-solving, be it a small problem or a major one, it’s their 6D part that finds the solution. This brings me to mention one of the most important ways I discovered to develop and deepen my awareness of my 6D part.

    What I discovered in my early adolescence was that there is such a thing as a creative process, and that that process is a doorway for entering quite deeply into the world of 6D. When I was 17 I began my first university degree. I tried to find some material in the university’s library that would help explain or describe some of the many “strange” experiences or awarenesses I had by that age already discovered and even explored. At that time the New Age movement was yet to gain popular momentum. So I learnt that what I was involved in was known as “mysticism”. As that name tries to imply, the whole subject was supposedly very, very mysterious. Which didn’t help, because nearly everybody who knew me seemed to believe I was somehow very mysterious and unpredictable. I did find a small amount of published quotes from the writings of people like Jakob Bohme and Meister Eckhart that sounded like they were on the same page as me – and not mysterious, even if seeming to like contradictions or paradoxes quite a lot. But then, wasn’t it obvious that so much of what is most important is flat-out unsayable? What seemed more useful to me at that time, though, was a few books I found about the creative process, and the psychology of creativity.

    Let me now give a description of roughly how the creative process works. I’m doing this because it’s one way anybody can consciously tap into the 6D world and, hopefully, consciously watch how the 6D world brings something in, that the human mind then takes down into 5D and 4D. The way the creative process works is that you begin with a huge problem that you are motivated to solve. In the fine arts, the problem can be as vague as that of creating something original that vividly expresses both beauty and truth. If you like, it can be as small as, say, just finding an original point of view regarding some topic.

    Next, you go through a process of trial and error where you just come up with attempted off-the-cuff solutions. You bring these out without consciously thinking much. It’s more about looking. You’re looking for what solutions kind of have the right flavor. In a sense, which ones are in good taste – but it’s only your own personal taste that matters at this point. You keep bringing up these spontaneous attempts at solutions. Then you reflect on why they look inadequate. You now seek to spontaneously bring up solutions that overcome the weaknesses of your previous attempts. You concentrate very hard on seeking an answer to the problem now. The harder you concentrate, the better the end result will be later on. You keep going until your well runs completely dry. Then you give up, but only for a moment, or maybe for a day.

    You are now ready to naturally enter the next stage of the process. This is where you kind of surrender to “nothingness”. You’ve thrown away every suggestion your mind could come up with, because all of these have been found wanting. Still, while you now intensely listen to “nothingness” and you contemplate the blank "wall" that's all you have left, you keep your attention still on the problem. Your attention stays there but not on any words running through your mind. Those words will just be distractions at this point, so turn their volume down low, and ignore them.

    At this point you wait for an answer to come, out of “nowhere”. You may go back to your normal everyday life at this point, but please make sure you are ready to listen to the inspiration which will come at some point, though you may not know when. And be ready to jot down the answer, or to tape record it somewhere. Some level of inspiration will eventually come, unless you unknowingly repress it or don’t honor its generosity.

    That’s basically the process. I’ll stop here for now because this post is already long.
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    While we’re on the subject of techniques to begin to listen to your 6D part, here’s another one. Frame a question that is currently important in your life, but don’t put it in a closed form (i.e., don’t ask a question with a Yes or No answer). Centre and ground yourself, and let your mind go relatively quiet, as at the beginning of meditation.

    Then ask yourself the question, and immediately make the screen of your mind completely blank. Wait at least twenty seconds, keeping that screen blank all the while. Then, look at the first symbol or picture or word that comes up. That is your 6D part’s answer. Be ready for the answer to come out of left field, or seem wild or not seem to make sense. After that initial answer, what you will get in your mind will probably be the ego coming in, chattering about and distorting the answer. So don’t listen to what comes after. Usually the answer comes in the form of a symbol or picture. I have found that everybody is very good at knowing the meaning of their own consciousness's symbols. Anything like a train or car is a symbol for your life, or the course of your life. Steps going up always mean spiritual evolution.

    Why am I giving you these exercises? Well, as I said, most of the time your guardian angels normally stay at the border between the fifth and sixth dimensions. There they are invisible and undetectable to any lower-level beings, and they can also see the big picture of your life and protect you or subtly influence you or events. But they are just at the entrance to your own 6D part. So it’s not a huge step to tune into that part of yourself, rather than being preoccupied with tuning into them. And I’ve already given you two very simple exercises that enable almost anybody to get at least some communication direct from their own 6D part.

    Over 30 years ago I used to go to a spiritual circle. The primary activity in those classes, apart from learning to astral travel as a group even if one didn’t initially know how to astral travel, was to identify and receive messages from the guides of other members of the group. The other members had usually the same guide each week, and had one or two different guides. I had between 3 and 7 guides each week, and most of them would be different every week. So I do know about guides, and have examined the subject in depth. Not all “guides” are beneficial to a person, because sometimes a person will tap into one of their own past-lifetime personalities, which is always very destructive, as I have mentioned already. What eventually happened in the spiritual circle I was a member of was that after a few months I started to bring in guides that the teacher called “buddhas”, even though she was a Christian psychic. These beings had a gold energy field, and the leader claimed those fields were bigger than the entire room – say, more than 10 meters in diameter. The leader didn’t know how to work with them properly as “guides”, and she asked me to leave the group. Which was certainly a pity, because I wasn’t able to see with precision how big their energy fields were.

    Guardian angels are not the same thing as guides. However, I have noticed that during a psychic healing they are happy to collaborate with a benevolent guide in the healing process.
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    Hi TraineeHuman. I ran across these channeled messages from Archangel Metatron by James Tyberonn, in which AAM is describing what angels actually are. The Angelic Realm is located by scrolling down about 2 inches at the first link. I'm curious as to what you think about these descriptions.

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    "The Nature of Angelics & Light"

    Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

    http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_56.htm


    "The 2012 Ostiary
    Angels Among You"

    Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

    http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_66.htm
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    Hi, Snowbird (and anyone else). I’ve read the material at the two above links. It covers many different topics, and in places I see it as informative. There are definitely several intelligent points — though there are considerably more false and misleading statements than accurate or true ones.

    I also see the manner and style of expression as being unfortunate. Sigh. Yet another channeler. Well, I happen to know that the ability to be able even to locate, let alone precisely listen to, as exalted a being as Metatron – or, indeed, any being that channelers claim to be taking dictation from – is a very rare skill. I find it plausible that John Kettler actually has that skill, at least in part. But if the man who wrote the material at the above links can fully access a being at such a subtle level of reality as Metatron, where are his ingenious and unstoppable practical solutions to the problems of humanity? I don’t see them there. And why is such an intelligent being as "Metatron" so ineloquent? I find that totally unbelievable.Why can’t "Metatron" find a way to use language that any person on the street can follow, like David Icke usually does? Also, to me it seems childish to claim that the product of your own mind is actually coming straight from some divine or otherwise exalted being. That sounds like essence of pure ego.

    Here’s a list of the few things mentioned that I would applaud. Firstly, I’m impressed by the real Metatron. I can only speak of Metatron from my own experience/awareness. It appears that Metatron is some kind of very powerful being. that I would call a (senior) god rather than an “archangel” – not that the benevolent gods (who, I know, do include Yeshua and Judas and all sorts of others, such as Gaia) are anything other than very senior angelic beings, in my experience and observation – and from my experiences of following the trail of some of the gods as they retreated back into the sixth dimension and beyond.

    In my experience, Metatron is a being of truly extraordinary subtlety and gentleness, who is also extraordinarily generous and available to help. However, I prefer to work primarily with the guardian angels who have volunteered to be with me throughout every moment of my physical life. I prefer to leave it up to them to find (and vet) any other benevolent beings who may bring other help at times. I also find that calling on my three permanent angels for assistance usually results in very creative and favorable resolutions of what initially were sticky situations for me.

    Another statement I would certainly agree with is that there are no evil or fallen angels – nor, I would add, any evil “gods”. All the latter are just some of the “Greys” or Jinns or Archons or Reptilians, and they’re all something quite different, something that falls quite short in each case. Just because the Bible says there are “fallen angels”, we needn’t forget that various things in the Bible are not the word of God but the word of the deceivers.

    It’s certainly true that there are some types of angels whose work is to preserve and uphold the laws of physics.

    That’s just about as far as it goes. OK, some of the incredibly vague statements about being beings of “Light” are also true, as are some of the statements about how that connects with “crystalline” forms of existence, for humanity in the future.

    Unfortunately, Christianity used the concept of "angels" to try to convince humanity that they were lower than other intelligent beings. I love the way that in Paradise Lost. Milton has "the Archangel Michael" complain to Papa God about the fact that said Papa has [sic] created humans in such a way that they have the potential to become more exalted creatures than even Michael himself.
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    From my understanding, an archangel is not an individual, but is a collective. They, become one and have no form but light. So, is it possible that when James Tyberonn or anyone channels an archangel, they would receive information from those in the collective who have the most knowledge and understanding of the subject at hand? This would make their voices different.

    This channeled message linked below has the flavor of Metatron, so to speak. Their description of the 13-20-33 circuitry goes beyond interesting. I would like to know how the average person measures their own circuitry.


    Issue # 67: Earth-Keeper Chronicles January 6, 2012


    "The 2012 Express - A Train Is Coming
    The Requisite Shift to Crysto-Electric Field"

    Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

    http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_67.htm
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    Snowbird, you may copy that info here without permission.
    It says at the link"This channel is copyrighted to www.Earth-Keeper.com . Posting on websites is permitted as long as the information is not altered and credit of authorship and website is included. "
    You just have to give Tyberonn's name and website link, and copy the info as is, without alteration.
    I've been copying Tyberonn's channeled info on the channeled info forum and in other threads for quite awhile now.

    As to TH's assessment of Tyberonn, I have met him in person and witnessed him channeling, and though I cannot say precisely who or what he or any other channeler is channeling, I think that the massive amount of very detailed information he is bringing through about such subjects as the history of Atlantis, the pyramids and other sacred sites around the world, about the importance of crystals, the crystalline grid and the crystal skulls and much more seems to me to be very credible, not to mention uplifting and inspiring.

    He was a geologist and a world traveler before he ever became a channeler or a sacred tour guide, and that gives him rather a different kind of background and base than most channelers. The conferences he facilitates feature very credible keynote speakers such as Dr. Semir Osmanagich, John Major Jenkins, David Hatcher Childress, Dr. Michael Cremo and more, and he has worked extensively with Max the Crystal Skull and Max's keeper, JoAnn Parks.

    I think a lot of genuine channelers are really just channeling their own Higher Selves, perhaps with assistance from higher beings, as protectors from the negative entities that like to interfere.
    While personally, I didn't feel anything particularly angelic coming through Tyberonn, I do feel there is a connection with a source that has a great deal of knowledge and wisdom to share, and I think Tyberonn does quite a good job bringing that through.
    As to how clear a channel Tyberonn is when it comes to angelic energy, it may depend, as with all channelers, on many variables such as how he was feeling that day, his surroundings at the time of the channeling, who was present and how much interference he might have been dealing with from other entities.
    I only saw him channel once, very briefly, and I don't think that was enough for me to make a thorough assessment on that score.
    In the past, I have witnessed a channeler who I did feel was able to bring through very angelic energy, so I do have some basis of comparison, at least.
    As with ALL channeled info, discernment is advised, but when it comes to pure information, basic standards of reason and logic are certainly helpful, and may be sufficient in certain cases.
    But I don't think we can measure all channelers with the same yardstick.

    Quote Posted by Snowbird (here)
    Hi TraineeHuman. I ran across these channeled messages from Archangel Metatron by James Tyberonn, in which AAM is describing what angels actually are. The Angelic Realm is located by scrolling down about 2 inches at the first link. I'm curious as to what you think about these descriptions.

    I am unable to copy/paste because of copyright issues.


    "The Nature of Angelics & Light"

    Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

    http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_56.htm


    "The 2012 Ostiary
    Angels Among You"

    Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

    http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_66.htm
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    I guess for me the issue that gets in the way regarding channeling is that I don’t believe in it at all. (And I’ve sure had direct and very clear and precise communication with various kinds of ETs and angelic beings, a number of the most major and wisest gods, many nature spirits, many famous dead personalities or people, and so on and so forth.) The main reason I don’t believe in “channeling” is as follows.

    Over 30 years ago I use to attend a weekly psychic development circle, run by someone who I’m now sure was a very, very competent psychic. There I carefully and telepathically observed others “channeling”. I soon noticed that I could “tune into” significant amounts of whatever other members of the group were about to “channel”, but I could do that better as myself. And I could always add extra, equally valuable information myself, without somehow surrendering my consciousness and my body to some temporary walk-in. The difference was that I was aware of and in contact with my Higher Self at least up to a 13D level. Most of the other people in the group definitely were not.

    The point is, at any time, to listen to your Higher Self is to be more truly and authentically and fully you. A channel is something that’s an intermediary. But the real you is here, now. Just be very honest with yourself and very aware, and the petals will unfold by themselves. (And persistence is the key to success in any area.) You are the butterfly the caterpillar is listening to. I'd much prefer people to tune into their deeper heart and "blindly" guess from there -- and surprise, surprise it won't be guessing if you're true to the real you.

    So, I fully agree with Onawah that some “channeling” is simply coming from a person’s Higher Self – and, like most people today, that individual happens to be quite out of touch with who they truly are.

    Then there’s other sorts of “channeling”. Quite a lot of “channeling”, in my experience anyway, is cluttered with just so much rubbish the rubbish tends to hide any valuable truth that may be in there somewhere. And why is so much of it in the same wordy, rather bombastic language that the English mediums of the nineteenth century used to use? Why can’t the “channels” get modernized to a twenty-first century version, that doesn’t waffle on, much of the time saying either nothing specific or nothing verifiable?
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