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    In this weary Heart, the Law of One, resonates........yet I am not comfortable to it being referred to as a law. In the realm of Free Will there are NO LAWS, for if there would be, you would be putting limits on the Infinite. In this mortals existence, laws only keep my soul anchored in this density. In my Heart the Nothingness operates on Axioms and dreams.

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    I have personally never encountered any other written work that has resonated more with my being. The Law of One has influenced me to encounter each person and animal I encounter with Love and Compassion, though I am not always successful at it. I just know that that is the mark. It has been instrumental in my spiritual development, and I look forward to the day that my children are old enough to begin studying it with me. I was raised Southern Baptist and it honestly took a while to de-program myself from the negative distortions of that religious mindset. Thank you Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty for your work and service!

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    In all of the recent brouhaha around the veracity of channeled material, I had gotten to looking at some of it about channeling specifically. This post isn't about that precisely, this one is about proof and the need to make a choice. Apparently we are not presented with proof because it is important for us to judge channeled material individually and to make a choice. And should we insist on proof, there are potential negative consequences.

    According to these channels, the purpose of incarnating in 3D is to eventually make that choice and, by so doing, to raise our vibratory levels, which we need to do to make it into 4D and 5D in the upcoming transition. In a quotation below from the Introduction to Book I of the Ra Materials, an entity named Hatonn says that the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, which he represents, is seeking to increase the number of souls who will be harvested into the "path of love and understanding," and that the point of their channeling material is to provoke us into making that important choice before that "harvest."

    As a side note, it is also explained elsewhere that individuals on both paths – service to self and service to others – can ascend into a higher density, but the requirements are a little bit different. To move ahead on the service-to-others path, one must be at least 51 percent unselfish, as it were, while to move ahead on the other, service-to-self, path, one would have to be more than 95 percent selfish. The remaining 44 percent will repeat 3D. In 4D and beyond, the paths split into two separate paths. So the most purely evil of the service-to-self folks may move into 4D, but it won't be together with folks who opt for the other path.

    Ra makes the point elsewhere that the service-to-self path is in truth much more difficult, as there is never any respite, never any friend one can trust, never any relaxing, as all those around you are basically out to get you, too, just as you are out to get them.

    [Note about Hatonn and the channelers: The group that channeled Ra had been meeting for years, and Hatonn had been a long-time contact, I think. When the Ra contact came through, it did so in an entirely different way, and only three members of the group participated in that effort – Don Elkins, Carla Rueckert, and James McCarty. Hatonn has also appeared in material channeled through Suzy Ward. There is another Hatonn, one Gyeorges Ceres Hatonn, who is not the same entity and should not be confused with this one. (He seems to be a CIA or black ops-associated fellow.)]

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    There is going to be a Harvest, as you might call it, a harvest of souls that will shortly occur upon your planet. We are attempting to extract the greatest possible harvest from this planet. This is our mission, for we are the Harvesters. In order to be most efficient, we are attempting to create first a state of seeking among the people of this planet who desire to seek. This would be those who are close to the acceptable level of vibration. Those above this level are of course not of as great an interest to us since they have, you might say, already made the grade. Those far below this level, unfortunately, cannot be helped by us at this time. We are attempting at this time to increase by a relatively small percentage the number who will be harvested into the path of love and understanding. Even a small percentage of those who dwell upon your planet is a vast number, and this is our mission, to act through groups such as this one in order to disseminate information in such a fashion that it may be accepted or rejected, that it may be in a state lacking what the people of your planet choose to call proof.
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    We offer them no concrete proof, as they have a way of expressing it. We offer them Truth. This is an important function of our mission—to offer Truth without proof. In this way, the motivation will, in each and every case, come from within the individual. In this way, the individual vibratory rate will be increased. An offering of proof or an impressing of this Truth upon an individual in such a way that he would be forced to accept it would have no usable effect upon his vibratory rate. This, then, my friends, is the mystery of our way of approaching your peoples.

    In the following quote, Ra warns us that the desire for proof can lead an inherently positive channel into accepting negatively-oriented material.

    Quote Ra:I am Ra. It is entirely possible for the untuned channel, as you call that service, to receive both positive and negative communications. If the entity at the base of its confusion is oriented toward service to others, the entity will begin to receive messages of doom. If the entity at the base of the complex of beingness is oriented towards service to self, the crusaders, who in this case, do not find it necessary to lie, will simply begin to give the philosophy they are here to give. Many of your so-called contacts among your people have been confused and self-destructive because the channels were oriented towards service to others but, in the desire for proof, were open to the lying information of the crusaders [from Orion] who then were able to neutralize the effectiveness of the channel.
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    I think I try to have the disposition that all channelled material is not valid, then read it and then think about what I have read and if it works then allow it past the "filters".

    Every single message ever channelled by Q'uo (which is a combination of Ra (6th D)/Latwii(5th D) as the source and Hattonn (4th D) as a stabilizer) is transcribed and prefixed with a disclaimer that almost always reads like this:

    Quote ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THIS TRANSCRIPT: This telepathic channeling has been taken from transcriptions of the weekly study and meditation meetings of the Rock Creek Research & Development Laboratories and L/L Research. It is offered in the hope that it may be useful to you. As the Confederation entities always make a point of saying, please use your discrimination and judgment in assessing this material. If something rings true to you, fine. If something does not resonate, please leave it behind, for neither we nor those of the Confederation would wish to be a stumbling block for any.
    Over the years you can see the results of the efforts that Carla has gone to to create the highest and best channel she can provide. Her work is amazing and worth reading (and supporting!).

    I owe much to the learning opportunities that LLResearch have put in my path of awakening.

    Also I concur that the Law Of One was the most profound and conciousness changing trance channelled work I have ever read bar none - and only recently is this surpassed by the Q'uo channellings of later years as Carla is now a "virtuoso" channel for that entity, and Barbara Brodsky's Aaron channellings.

    These two channellers got together and I am now reading a fascinating book of a conversation between Q'uo and Aaron channelled via Carla and Barbara in real time.


    -- Update: I got a nudge to post a sample --


    Here is a signoff from one of the Q'uo readings

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcript...1990_0107.aspx

    Quote You are the dancers now which dance the dance of your destiny in third density. May you choose well to learn from each mistake, to forgive the self for all, to move forward in newness of spirit and renewal of commitment each and every day. You are lifted up into the light of the Infinite One. Feel that blessing as we call it to your group. It is intense, is it not? We ask you to find your own center of being, your own essence, your own passion, commitment and center, for then you shall be able to express more and more of the I AM principle within.

    We leave this group in love and light. I am known to you as Q’uo. We wish each to take that which we have said not as infallible, but as our opinion, as we leave each in thanks and blessing of being allowed to share those opinions with you.
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    Many, many thanks for that. I shall go look up the recent Q'uo readings. I looked at them a long time ago, and I think they struck me as too general. But that was most likely some defect with my vision!

    While I have been re-reading the Ra materials here lately, it is quite amazing how much more the information in it means to me now than I did when I first read it.

    I do have a question for you: Do you think that the group Hatonn and Ra referred to as the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator are what we now know as the Galactic Federation?

    Quite apart from that, there are very many bits that line up nicely with material from Matthew and some others. But I haven't seen much elsewhere about the negative guys going on to a negative 4D.

    I have more questions, but I have to go right now.

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Thanks ETM, nice thread post!

    Here is the most "outstanding" channel I have heard. Dare I say? A Clear Channel


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    I do have a question for you: Do you think that the group Hatonn and Ra referred to as the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator are what we now know as the Galactic Federation?
    No I dont, but this is not 100%.

    There may be some overlap in that grey, "truth mixed with lies" area, but I don't bother myself with trying to pick it all out - what is the point?

    Everyone should use the sources that they feel most appropriate for them at their point on their path - and for me so long as they are making informed choices, and not just singing along with the choir, then I am happy about that.

    PS: I love questions, by the way, please ask away. I cant guarantee any correctness in my answers, but I find the process of thinking about them and writing them down often enables me to reach things previously unknown to me. Also, I am a bit short of time for the next couple of days, and some thinking time may be required.
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    I definitely agree with Anchor on all counts - the Rueckert material is amazingly consistent over a long period of time (40+ years); a wealth of deep spiritual knowledge unparalleled in my own experience. Greatly unparalleled!

    The Aaron dialogues are also very good (Barbara Brodsky's work - Deep Spring Center).

    Anchor - have not purchased the Q'uo/Aaron dialogues yet - how is it? Should I move it up on my hella long reading list?

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    Quote Anchor - have not purchased the Q'uo/Aaron dialogues yet - how is it? Should I move it up on my hella long reading list?
    For you my friend, yes, you should move it to the top.

    Note if you have the Q'uo archives then the Aaron dialogs are in those, but having them all in one book and with the "thread" easier to follow is just perfect.

    When I use the archives, I tend to dip in at random - and let things play out as they should

    John..

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    Quote Posted by What some have said about The Aaron/Q'uo dialogues
    I am struck by its sophistication and its lightness, its clarity and its beauty.
    --Ram Dass, spiritual teacher, author of Be Here Now, Still Here, and other books

    These conversations between Aaron and Q'uo offer a unique and valuable perspective - rich in wisdom and compassion - to the central issues facing everyone who wants to realize his or her potential and embody the best of what it means to be fully human.
    -- James Baraz, author of Awakening Joy

    These dialogues are like being in a cozy living room with grandparents who only have your deepest interests at heart. Deeply loving, wise, respectful, and funny, what they share is not only pertinent and intimate but evolutionary.
    -- Ajahn Thanasanti Bhikkhuni, Spiritual Alliances and co-producer of documentary, Theraveda Buddhist Nun, founder of Awakening Truth

    Filled with love, wisdom, practical advice, and Divine perspective ... helps demystify what the process of channeling is about, while at the same time allowing the reader to appreciate the efforts needed to channel with integrity.
    -- Josie RavenWing, author of The Book of Miracles and Casa Guide

    Brodsky and Rueckert are two of the most gifted channels of our time. In this magnificent book, they combine their considerable talents to create a vast treasure trove of wisdom.
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    Thank you John - I will bump it up =)

    I also like to use the archives by random intuition - always something valuable to be gained or remembered.

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    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    Thanks ETM, nice thread post!

    Here is the most "outstanding" channel I have heard. Dare I say? A Clear Channel]
    Yes, I saw that! Actually, I saw it on the 2012 Scenario, and liked it so much I had transcribed half of it before I realized there was already a transcript! I was going to post something about it here, but somebody beat me to the punch!

    I liked it very much. Very clear. Made a lot of sense to me.

    I went and found some other Adamu, but I don't think it quite hits the spot like this one did.

    This one also upset quite a few people, too, who feel like we really ought to have our "disclosure." Maybe this will take the urgency and expectation down a notch or two and give some folks a little breathing room. Maybe then they'll be able to manage it?

    There was something else I wanted to post about.... Oh, on the 2012 site they do this weekly channeling session with Linda Dillon, channeling variously Archangel Michael, Jesus and others. So I found also in Ra a reference to Jesus. And many of us, I think, have quite a few doubts when we hear someone is channeling Jesus or the Archangel Michael. But that is what Ra said.

    Don Elkins asked Ra if Jesus would be coming back around this time, and Ra said no, that wasn't what he had meant, it had been misunderstood somehow. (I'll have to find it again.) Then Ra went on to say Jesus would be around at this time to channel messages to us as a member of the Confederation!

    I thought that was an interesting bit of confirmation of something I otherwise get quite uncomfortable about. I mean, I have accepted it, but it's been very difficult for me. But why not? It actually fits much more with what I naturally believe than with what I was ever taught. That being, of course, that there have been a number of very wise, holy men to spend time with us here on Earth, who tried to teach us something about loving one another and ourselves. And if our souls are eternal, and we reincarnate, then those holy men may indeed be around someplace. And so may some of those Masters. If heaven is a higher dimension associated with this planet, then Jesus may indeed be there. So of course he could talk to us, if we can hear him.

    Of course, there are very likely people impersonating them as well. But they are not all impersonations, and it is up to us to choose who is speaking the truth.

    I think an important thing to remember, which Ra also states, is that if a post elicits fear and feelings of doom, forget about it. I like that, myself. Hold the doom, please!

    ETM

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    Here is the material about Jesus, also from Book I of the Ra Material or The Law of One (funny, what I hadn't noticed before is that Ra is also saying that others like Jesus -- I would guess meaning the Ascended Masters --would be around nowadays too, and that that is what was meant by "the return."):

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    Questioner: What density is the entity known as Jesus in now?

    Ra: I am Ra. This information is harmless though unimportant. This entity studies now the lessons of the wisdom vibration, the fifth-density, also called the light vibration.

    Questioner: In our culture there is a saying that he will return. Can you tell me if this is planned?

    Ra: I am Ra. I will attempt to sort out this question. It is difficult.

    This entity became aware that it was not an entity of itself but operated as a messenger of the one Creator whom this entity saw as love. This entity was aware that this cycle was in its last portion and spoke to the effect that those of its consciousness would return at the harvest.

    The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus is, as what you would call an entity, not to return except as a member of the Confederation speaking through a channel. However, there are others of the identical congruency of consciousness that will welcome those to the fourth-density. This is the meaning of the returning.


    Now, I think that's good news!


    ETM
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    The Ra material is the best I think I've seen.
    Although demanding proof is certainly inadvisable when it comes to channeled info, that should not be confused with using discernment and good, common sense.
    Gloom and doom are, I agree, a sign that truth is absent, but so is pie in the sky.
    I think there surely are ET federations, but what they really call themselves would probably not be in any language we know.
    It's important to remember that the name GFL can be used by anyone; the name does not guarantee either truth or disinfo.
    We can only decide on what is true in channeled info by the merits of the info itself, not the name which it goes under.
    Important also to realize that channelers may be clear one day and unclear the next.
    Channeled info can be used to learn discernment, or it can be used to deceive one's self and perpetuate a state of denial.
    The choice is, indeed, each individual's to make....

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    Yes, Ra does make the point about the otherwise perfectly good channel getting co-opted by the Orions by asking for proof.

    I think my point -- and I agree absolutely about the names and English -- is that for a while here it seemed like anyone who posted anything that said GFL was setting themselves up to be jumped on and ridiculed. I haven't seen much BUT smears of any and all GFL and Ascended Masters lately, as if all GFL and Ascended Master channeled information is all part of a nefarious plot.

    For myself, I think it is much more likely that Marshall Vian Summers is being used in a rather nefarious plot, probably some black ops or CIA group, and any GFL channels that are promising to beam us up or take us down into the Earth or otherwise safe us from an imminent cataclysm are also rather nefarious. Maybe what's-his-name, with the chambers. Chambers? Did he ever let someone put something in his head? If he did, then I think he's definitely tuned in to the wrong people.

    Rayelan Allen, in her book, pointed out that at some point she was channeling, she thought, and then she came to find out it was indeed the CIA piping thoughts into her head somehow.

    Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn and Dharma, in the Phoenix Liberator, are another example of hoaxed channeling. Dharma actually allowed someone to put an implant in her head to facilitate her channeling of this racist lunatic Hatonn.

    Dove of Oneness, according to Matthew, started out as a good channel, but her ego got the better of her, and then she was corrupted.

    Ra also points out -- and David Wilcock cleared up my confusion in this area, because otherwise I would not have figured this out -- that when Ra kept telling them to move the things near Carla's head around, to adjust them to make them more perfect, Ra was actually giving them the broadest hint that he could that they were veering dangerously close to the kind of inappropriate questions which would cause Ra to have to move aside and allow a negative entity to step in and interfere. Simply harping on the wrong kind of question can then cause you to lose your good contact. I forget the word Ra used. Transitory?

    I'll look it up....

    ETM

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    When dealing whith channeled information one should be really careful. WHY ?

    Because its information GIVEN to you by someone else,to whom was GIVEN too by something else.

    Specially the Ra material is intersesting, because they give a good description of the mechanics of this illusion,trully convincing,they give 99% good information but than ...
    in a subtle way they introduce smth dangerous.The concept that there is some king of predetermined way of how things should go.Like you have to expect smth specific to happen.
    They present an updated version of the christian salvation.
    In both the rules are simple : We have team A and Team B,you chose, thay take care of the rest.

    Team A .the 'all loving ,good boy' team
    Team B. the 'i am the only one that counts' team
    Wining is easy,you just chose one ,they both wining teams but dont you dare NOT CHOOSE, dont you dare understand this is the ILLUSION game.
    Than you will stay for eternity in this 'filthy' dimension ,where you cannot fly, you canot experirence what its like to be blue or transperent.
    Bottom idea : CHOOSE or you are FU..ED(sry for language).

    The Tax collectors (Ra and company) will come and collect,arent you exited..?
    Than if you chose you win,you win a tour to a higher realm where not all will go,because they didnt chose.Choose what ?who are you ?
    Doing magic by speaking through ppl doesnt give you the right to create our path,to tell us how its going to be.This is just the endless perpetuation in the ILLUSION.
    Yes, but now we can fly,and dance with fairies ! Sure,but is that what you want.

    What this material and other similar are doing is ,planting the seed in our mind that theere is some general path to this journey.
    Its like this illusion is always trying to keep your mind busy,and expectations high,and if you happen to be a little more conscious and tv,realigon is not working on you anymore, bam....there it comes:
    Ra and his crew so you can gen get exited for the new tendency,the one to ASCEND. I say : COME DOWN man ,enough playing ,there is nowhere to ascend to too,you were just to busy listening to Ra to see you were always there you are just going in circle.

    We already get maipulated here 24/7 by tv,religion,governments end even by our own minds (ego) and still we dont get it.

    What way of manipulation would use some so called more Advanced Race in case they dicided we were to some interest to them.It would be subtle,so subtle that we would think it was our choise,because if you think you are going to the next dimension thats your new reality,so this is the Ultimate Deception: They use our Own creating force to build for us the reality they want us to expirence,and i bet they have a good laugh.I would to,if i did colonise an entire race only through voice projection,makeking tham(us) belive they need smth else to join the source.

    For me no one really knows a sh..t what this GAME(ILLUSION) is all about,its just speculation and assumptions.I deeply feel i dont need to care about what Ra or Galactic federation tell me they know.
    I dont need to be saved,i was always saved,i dont need to enter your exclusive Night Club of higher dimentions to understand what i am,i can just have a beer home and still feel the Truth Within.You just know more about the illusion,and still thats YOUR VERSION of it,i need to find mine.So go 'harvest' yourselves and stop playing chess with momentary less conscious beings,pretending to save them or know what this is all about.If you knew it you wouldnt be still playing here.

    Dont get me wrong ,even if i have my reasons,through other researching and confrontations that this specific group (RA) may be not who they say thay are,thats not the point,They may be even on our side.
    My point is we should stop waiting for OTHERS saving us.No one can save anyone in this mess,,,It comes down to whitch state you are still in:
    In the 'I Want to play some more' state, or
    in the 'I want to go to the point ' state
    If you are in the first one,your choice,than of course there will be many Ra-s to come.
    If you think you need to go through 11,12 or whatever dimensions before you see you are NOTHING ,thats the reality you will get.

    I may be wrong,but I am willing to take the risk because thats what comes from inside.Who knows,maybe the point of all this is to understand we are Nothingness even though we are surronded by so many things,material and non material ones.
    My moto would be :

    CHANNEL YOURSELF and let Ra and company 'Harvest' Themselves.
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    I must admit that the "harvest of souls" line makes me uneasy.

    We all have the ability to access any truth for ourselves. Our goal should be to be "self-awakening", as well as "self aware". Having said that, using discernment and the principle of heart-based resonance (as I described elsewhere tonight) to find what information we need to reaquire is an invaluable asset to our spiritual growth.

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    Thanks Anchor, I added the Q'uo/Aaron dialogues book to my amazon list..

    And etm567, I just read that Jesus material from Law of One search last week. I was reading all the 'harvest' returns from search.

    Let me just say that things seem and feel to me to be getting energetically very intense in last week or so...

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    Quote Posted by music (here)
    I must admit that the "harvest of souls" line makes me uneasy.

    We all have the ability to access any truth for ourselves. Our goal should be to be "self-awakening", as well as "self aware". Having said that, using discernment and the principle of heart-based resonance (as I described elsewhere tonight) to find what information we need to reaquire is an invaluable asset to our spiritual growth.
    I have realized most of my adult life that I wanted this life to be my last at this level of 3D duality, I wanted to graduate and move on and up. The term 'harvest' does not bother me, I am confortable with my own discernment and faith in the ongoing path of my soul journey.

    No up-to-no-good soul-eaters are getting ahold of me.

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    Thanks Anchor, I added the Q'uo/Aaron dialogues book to my amazon list..

    And etm567, I just read that Jesus material from Law of One search last week. I was reading all the 'harvest' returns from search.

    Let me just say that things seem and feel to me to be getting energetically very intense in last week or so...
    Yeah, I have all the harvest answers saved to a file, to do something with. I think I'll just keep posting stuff from The Law of One, as so much of it seems very relevant to many discussions we've been having here.

    And then, when I go back and reread it, I find so much that I didn't notice when I read it the first time around! But a great deal of it, like all the discussion about energy, sexual energy transfer and the seven rays is too esoteric for me. MEGO, my eyes glaze over.

    ETM

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    When dealing whith channeled information one should be really careful. WHY ?
    I like the Law of One material very much. It resonates beautifully with me, so much so that when I first read it I felt as though something was making sense to me for the first time on this planet. It was quite -- resonant to me. In a very big way.

    A great deal of channeled material does not strike me that way. But this does.

    It's fine if you don't like it.

    You say we should stop waiting for others to save us. That is not what this is about. Maybe you should read it more carefully. Or have you read it at all?

    Ra does not suggest that they will save us. They will prevent nuclear war, but that's out of self interest. They will also help souls who are in between. But there is no promise that they plan to intervene and save us from anyone. They are channeling, as Ra explains, to present us with Truth, rather than proof, for us to choose... and by choosing we can raise our frequencies. That's not landing here on Earth to save us.

    I don't see any threat of getting eaten by an AI there, either.

    Where do you come by all your information, that you seem to be so sure about? Why should we believe you? Maybe we should, but could you tell me why? Is your opinion based on anything other than something you thought up yourself? Is it a reaction? Perhaps a rather automatic one to material you haven't looked at carefully?

    As I said, there is some very bad material out there, and it could be you are reacting to that. But that's the point, to differentiate between this and that, good material and bad material, and the path you choose to take.

    Cheers,

    ETM

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