Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[modwiz]

Posted by Selene (here)
Wow – a troll convention on this very thread! Vastly amusing to see you all gathered here in your true colors.

You know who you are, of course.

Cheers!

Selene

You're too funny.

[Lazlo]

Posted by Whitehaze (here)
http://nexus.2012info.ca/radio/Nexus...avy%20Seal.mp3

I just finished listening to this all of the way through. It'll be interesting to watch this play out. I get the feeling that if BW/Brockbrader gets presented with hard evidence and still sticks to his story, that there are people out there that are not going to drop it.

I did catch an inconsistency by Don Shipley (I'm not picking at his integrity here) Early on he said that he thought that BW was in the Navy, was an FC Tech, and that he was assigned to an Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer. Later he said something to the effect that if his FOIA request didn't return anything then it would just lead to peopel claiming that the gov't scrubbed his records. I don't in any way think this means that Don has any doubts about his conclusions.

Of special interest to me was Don's ruminations that the "heavy hitters" from the oathkeepers might take exception to BW claiming to have their support.

However BW said that he "liked to call them / think of them as oathkeepers" not that they were the same as the public group. I'm not sure that the guys in the Oathkeepers will make the distinction, and they might be just as bad to have on your tail as Don.

Thanks Whitehaze.

[BestLion]

Posted on Dons Facebook site and has 60 comments about this guy> Don is still holding to the fact that he was never a seal>
http://www.facebook.com/don.shipley
He seems to really be adding to the creditation of PC.

PROJECT CAMELOT : BILL WOOD : Interview with a Phony Navy SEAL. Phony Navy SEAL
An interview with an (PHONY) ex-Navy Seal

William N. Brockbrader AKA BILL BROCK AKA WILLIAM BROCKBRADER joined the Navy in July 1991. Brockbrader engaged in sex with a minor, and he went to a General Court Martial for rape.

Conviction Date: 04/20/1998
Offense Description: MILITARY - 99.99M, RAPE; 3RD DEGREE FELONY
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 165
Eye Color: GREEN
Hair Color: BROWN
Id Marks: TATTOO ON R_BICEP (TRIBAL ARM BAND)
Source Agency State: UT
Registration Number: 5359
School Address:
Release Date: 20031001
Criminal Offense - UT
Name: WILLIAM N BROCKBRADER
Address: 1565 PLATA WAY # SANDY, SANDY, UT 84093-2376 (Salt Lake COUNTY)
Conviction Date: 04/20/1998
Degree Of Offense: F3
Counts: 1
Offense Description: STATUTORY RAPE
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 165
Eye Color: GREEN
Hair Color: BROWN
Id Marks: Unavailable
Source Agency State: UT
Address Date: 20080102

IAW military regulations, Carnal Knowledge of a Minor who, at the time of the offense, has attained the age of 12 years, is punishable by Dishonorable Discharge, Forfeiture of all Pay and Allowances, and Confinement for up to 20 years.

Brockbrader spent at least THREE years in Leavenworth Prison in Kansas; the last six months was spent in the Psychological Ward according to him.
http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT...KBRADER_298689

He has returned to Salt Lake City, Utah and worked in construction, and at a medical laser firm. He's a registered sex offender in Utah.
Conviction Date: 04/20/1998
Offense Description: MILITARY - 99.99M, RAPE; 3RD DEGREE FELONY
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 165
Eye Color: GREEN
Hair Color: BROWN
Id Marks: TATTOO ON R_BICEP (TRIBAL ARM BAND)
Source Agency State: UT
Registration Number: 5359
School Address:
Release Date: October 1st, 2003... TWO Years and four months difference...
CONVICTION DATE 4-20-1998 Release date November 1, 2003
Brockbrader has been all over the Internet with some bizarre stories about being a member of SEAL TEAM NINE, being trained in PSI abilities/skills in Area 51, and about having killed hundreds of innocent people by targeting them with Tomahawk missiles! He's done a live interview on LIVETREAM about this crap, and he has a 2 ½ hour video about it all on YouTube.

So... Brockbrader never went to BUD/S, was never a SEAL, he's not listed in the SEAL database, he was found guilty of having sex with a minor child, he did time in Leavenworth, he was dishonorably discharged, and he is a registered sex offender.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CgtXjRwtfyE

[christian]

Posted by Whitehaze (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
From the letter that was posted before in this thread Don Shipley states, that there are no secret SEAL teams.
So he either has no knowledge of those or he is a liar (or secret SEAL teams do really not exist).
So I don't expect anything from this interview, that would help to figure out the truth of Bill Wood's claims.
Just more of the same that was going on over all the last pages.

Well you have made up your mind already, expect nothing and get nothing. He does explain those claims quite clearly, and is extremely knowledgable in this area.

My point is, that Don Shipley has made his mind up already.

Those were Don's comments he made on facebook when the initial interview came out:

I'll ask everyone who gives a **** about this PHONY SEAL, to sign up and log in and we'll all BLAST his ass shortly...

He and that Kerry Cassidy are on the ropes... NOW is the time to attack on YouTube... That video has over 100,000 views in six-days... Leave a comment... WE KNOW who he is... BLAST HIS ASS...

no comment

Posted by Khaleesi (here)
Hey I just found a great quote on someones page:

a memorable quote:
“It is the right and the duty of everyone who seeks the truth to doubt, investigate and consider all available evidence. Wherever this doubting and investigating is forbidden; wherever authorities demand unquestioning belief -- there is evidence of a profane arrogance, which arouses our suspicions. If those whose contentions are questioned had truth on their side, they would patiently answer all questions. Certainly they would not continue to conceal evidence and documents which pertain to the controversy. If those who demand belief are lying, however, they will call for a judge. By this ye shall know them. He who tells the truth is calm and composed, but he who lies demands worldly justice.” -- The Catholic pastor Viktor R. Knirsch of Kahlenbergerdorf in Austria

Why don't you say you found it on my page, bearing grudges?

I'm all for it, note that Bill Wood doesn't ask anyone to believe him nor does he call for any judges. He says that he cannot present certain documentation because he either does not have it or cannot do so safely. Doesn't mean I am sold on his story. Now who's actually demanding worldy justice and that they be believed in this case and who's calm and composed?

UPDATE:

I just started listening to Don's interview. He says he has the records of everyone who has ever gone through SEAL training. And if he doesn't have, he calls just up the Naval Special Warfare Command, and they just tell him. - Give me a break

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his practical hat...

So 7 billion people on one timeline are going to meet up with the same 7 billion people on another timeline (allow for as many timelines as you perceive) all at the same time and place. Personally I find that a fascinating concept which beggs a few questions...

Do I look forward to physically meeting multiple me's?

Any volunteers for being in charge of the seating arrangements?

If, for some reason, some are late to the party will they still be welcomed?

Would this be a virtual me meet and greet because a multiverse is revealed for all to see?

What do I do if one of me had some bad experiences on the timeline they where on and wished to take it out on some of the more fortunate me's ?

Will the physical me on whichever timeline I'm on be inundated with all the memories of experiences my other me's had whilst traversing different timelines and if that where so might it be reasonable to argue the experience I am in for could well be considered a major dose of schizophrenia?

Hmmm...would shares in a lithium mine be an astute investment?

[Black Panther]

Haven't read all the posts, but something important I have learned from Bill Wood
is the fact that we really have to get rid of all the believe systems in our heads.
Start again with a blank paper (like David Icke also says) and than we can experience
all the mighty magical powers we already have. Like precognition, clairvoyance,
healing ourselves and others, clauraudience etc.

We just have to train those powers like we had to learn to walk, to talk and that the
capital of Thailand is ... Bangkok

We create this world together by believing it's just the way it is. And because that's
why the world is as it is right now most of us can't believe it can be different.

Let's remember who we are and create 'A New Earth' together!

[JohnBlues]

Well the truth comes shining out, I had a reservation about BW but didn't want to say anything until further information and research came out. I honestly just sense bad vibes from this fella, each to their own..

[JohnBlues]

Posted by Selene (here)
Wow – a troll convention on this very thread! Vastly amusing to see you all gathered here in your true colors.

You know who you are, of course.

Cheers!

Selene

Sorry if I'm taking what you said the wrong way, but just because anyone takes this testimony with some healthy discernment and posting about those views & doubts for others to think about, DOES NOT make them a troll.. from what I've seen of this thread, most people who have posted, have appeared to mainly take on the "FAITH" of the testimony of Bill Wood' because of various factors, IMHO, mainly because of the support of David and Kerry, who in this community are vouched for and "verified" in most peoples minds.

In my opinion, this is like believing a statement because "Jesus said so", and to believe anything else is BLASHPHEMY..

For a group of people that should be atleast slightly more spirtually educated than the average "sheep", I see a damn LOT of ignorance.

[BestLion]

Sorry if I'm taking what you said the wrong way, but just because anyone takes this testimony with some healthy discernment and posting about those views & doubts for others to think about, DOES NOT make them a troll.. from what I've seen of this thread, most people who have posted, have appeared to mainly take on the "FAITH" of the testimony of Bill Wood' because of various factors, IMHO, mainly because of the support of David and Kerry, who in this community are vouched for and "verified" in most peoples minds.

In my opinion, this is like believing a statement because "Jesus said so", and to believe anything else is BLASHPHEMY..

For a group of people that should be atleast slightly more spirtually educated than the average "sheep", I see damn LOT of ignorance.

Well said. And now they are jumping on people like me as if it was Salem 1692. I even had one poster here (a civilian with no army background) say i was never in the US Army because they could not identify a class B army dress uniform. (And may i add i have many pics of me in the army, DD214, orders, medical records, past ID card etc) They take a dude (Bill Wood) who just popped up out of nowhere 10 days ago with a claim of being a former Navy Seal (whom which many real seals are skeptical about) over all else 'because as you said if Kerry and David gave their stamp of approval he must be real." Then we have real navy Seals who are saying their is no records of this man anywhere. Thus I assume these posters will likely jump and say those Navy Seals are in on the government conspiracy...Or maybe they will try to discredit real navy seals because they can not identify their uniforms.
And then because I 'with the support of many former seals, and former military men' question Bill's authenticity i am then categorized and an agent working for the secret government.
Its just gotten ridiculous!

For a group of people that should be atleast slightly more spirtually educated than the average "sheep", I see damn LOT of ignorance.

They just want so hard to believe the story, that they will go to any length.
Most of us here are just wanting truth and to put together a puzzle with all this stuff for personal truth and enlightenment.

Wow – a troll convention on this very thread! Vastly amusing to see you all gathered here in your true colors.

So any person who questions, religions, or topics that one posters doesn't agree on is a 'troll'?

[Cidersomerset]

Does Don Shipley believe seal team six killed Bin Laden last year anyone ???

[christian]

Posted by BestLion (here)
I even had one poster here (a civilian with no army background) say i was never in the US Army because they could not identify a class B army dress uniform.

If you re-read the entire conversation, you will see, that she made it very clear, that she said, if she would rely on superficial research she would say you have not even been in the army to illustrate how you did superficial research and based on that claim to be able to judge whether or not Bill's accounts about secret ops are true or not or the claim you parroted, of that I had seen no confirmation of anywhere, that the girl Bill had sex with was 12 years old.

In the interview on Nexus the interviewer asks Don about the case with the 16 year old and Don says nobody knows how old she actually was. He says the age 12 was concluded because Bill's conviction would be equal to having had sex with a 12-15 year old.

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Does Don Shipley believe seal team six killed Bin Laden last year anyone ???

I didn't notice questions for him on the interview, that would shine a light on his awareness of conspiracies, it was almost like this interview could have been a press conference on CNN. The only questions that related to Area 51 or secret missions related to Bill's alleged involvement there, which Don denied and from the tone Don has when talking about Area 51 and secret missions, he leaves the impression, that from his perspective this is all tin-foil-hat nonsense.

[Cidersomerset]

I 'm listening to it now and from his point of view they are all imposters......But he states clearly at the start
words to the effect they are fantasists and think they are Jason Bourne ,GI Jane or in some HollyWood
blockbuster and the excuse given that their documentation is top secret does no wash with him....

Now thats fine from his paradym and he probably thinks we are all nuts on here, even the debunkers
if he read your views on other threads...LOL...no problem...

I still say wait for more info before carrying on like a bunch of 'vigilantes'.......

BestLion and others we all know where you stand on this ......Cheers Steve...

[Kimberley]

Posted by Black Panther (here)
Haven't read all the posts, but something important I have learned from Bill Wood
is the fact that we really have to get rid of all the believe systems in our heads.
Start again with a blank paper (like David Icke also says) and than we can experience
all the mighty magical powers we already have. Like precognition, clairvoyance,
healing ourselves and others, clauraudience etc.

We just have to train those powers like we had to learn to walk, to talk and that the
capital of Thailand is ... Bangkok

We create this world together by believing it's just the way it is. And because that's
why the world is as it is right now most of us can't believe it can be different.

Let's remember who we are and create 'A New Earth' together!

Absolutely PERRRfect black panther!!!

[jaybee]

Posted by Whitehaze (here)
http://nexus.2012info.ca/radio/Nexus...avy%20Seal.mp3

thanks for that...one thing that I especially noticed as I have thought it myself...is why would the 'Oath Keepers' use a person who is on a sex offender register to do work for them. They surely to god aren't that naive. Which makes a mockery of any claims that Brockbrader could be representing them??

Posted by BestLion (here)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CgtXjRwtfyE

thanks for sharing that...it all helps to build the bigger picture of what's going on.

When I read the comments for that vid....I'm thinking...'OMG David (Wilcock) you should distance yourself from this Brockbrader character.'

I can't help it...I'm concerned that David has been drawn into something/someone that is not good or healthy for him.


I'm considering that Brockbrader has been 'handled'...brought into this whole thing as a special PSYOPS start-of-2012 drama...but he will ultimately be thrown to the wolves.

I was trying to decide whether he was working on his own, with a view to getting some fame and more to the point..money. Or whether he is part of a set up.

Then I remember the helicopters at the beginning of the first interview...these were either a co-incidence??? (probably not)...or he was being scared off (after seeing his embarassing performance on the 2nd interview..I don't think he is a threat to the 'authorities')....OR...it was a theatre piece to make it look like he was important so that it gave him credence. This is the most likely senario IMO. Someone involved with the Intelligence Service could have asked for helicopters to go over where Kerry and Brockbrader were...without having to give the reason why?


Just trying to tie up some loose ends in my mind...because I'm almost done with all this for now. Unless there are any new developments.

Don't want to be alarmist...but in all honesty...I'm worried for David's safety.

And before anyone accuses me of fear-mongering...sorry if I'm off message :/

but that's how I feel.



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[Cidersomerset]

Well good interview Whitehaze and Don Shipley seems a genuine guy ..........Its tells me nothing more about BW than he told us himself in the PC vid...
Other than Don thinks BW is a liar , and from his point of view as he said Area51,Tomahawks guidance and other exotic theories do not fit into Dons world.
Again no probs .....As Don said he will get the documentation from freedom of information in three weeks and that will tell him everything about BW naval
career and he will be exposed and that will be that.....Again in Dons world thats true and he obviously does not think the government would forge
documents and run top secret seal teams..So if thats enough to convince you, and it maybe enough for BW to fold if he is a fantasist/plant trying to sell his book.

All this now puts the ball back into BW's court and if he cannot deliver, its going to be blatently obvious to Kerry, Bill R and all of us pretty soon..
The point is he has put his neck on the line and lets see what he delivers, if anything at all....

On a lighter side it reminds me of these charecters......

[BestLion]

I'm considering that Brockbrader has been 'handled'...brought into this whole thing as a special PSYOPS start-of-2012 drama...but he will ultimately be thrown to the wolves.

Yes I am of the opinion that this character is the one who is being used to discredit PC. And yet many here think it is the other way around. Time will tell I suppose.

Posted by Whitehaze (here)
http://nexus.2012info.ca/radio/Nexus...avy%20Seal.mp3
thanks for that...one thing that I especially noticed as I have thought it myself...is why would the 'Oath Keepers' use a person who is on a sex offender register to do work for them. They surely to god aren't that naive. Which makes a mockery of any claims that Brockbrader could be representing them??

I listened to the entire thing! And anyone who has questions about Bill Wood should listen to this 1 hour talk. All of what Don said rings true, and Don is near 100% confident this man is an imposter seal.Don goes into all kinds of stuff, from secret operations, what is released, how seals act, body language etc.. Very good interview.

Well good interview Whitehaze and Don Shipley seems a genuine guy ..........Its tells me nothing more about BW than he told us himself in the PC vid...

Half the show was about how Bill Woods body language , stuff he said, his credentials, his dates and time..how all that didn't add up. Dont forget Don said he watched the PC video with BW 6 times. So to say it tell you nothing of BW that is just ridiculous!
Lets put it this way..say you never were on PC, and heard what Don said on that show..And lets say the man posted on a John McCain interview.. You would more then likely side with Don that this guy is a fraud imposter. You and most here only are buying into this BW guys cause Kerry and David backs him. That is respectful, but maybe this guy wasn't 100% honest in dealing with Kerry and David..remember the guy spent years in the pen..and likely around lots of other con men, liars etc....He had nothing to do for years while in jail. He could have also easily picked up by fellow inmates on how to be a conman, and a good liar.
BTW i watched a few years ago on lie detecting machines, and it tested convicts..Most of them could pass a lie detector..One guy was in the penn for years and he passed a lie detector.
As Don said..just having a convicted rapist who spent year in Leavenworth to interview doesn't really do PC justice.

[spiritguide]

For a group of people that should be at least slightly more spiritually educated than the average "sheep", I see a damn LOT of ignorance.

Ignorance is in the eyes of the beholder. There are many perceptions to be had regarding ignorance and ego helps this run down the road. There is disagreement on this thread and all that one must do is agree to disagree once their argument is stated. If one comes here to argue, he is mistaken for EGOS are not messaged here and most of the time ignored. When entering the forum a sign said,"Check your ego here and pick it up on departure!" This house was built by Bill and Kerry and others in a selfless gesture to share and the ultimate fate of the forum is their decision. If you don't trust them or think they know not what they do, then by all means try to find another selfless area on the internet. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem, you choose. IMHO

[ljwheat]

I am a former troll, No one could tell me I was a troll, I had to see it for myself that I was a troll, just like you can’t tell an ass he’s an ass for a better terminology. It’s like why do you need and announcer to tell you what your seeing on TV every angle of a foot ball play. You saw it your mind believes what you saw, yet you need someone to voice it blow by blow?

The president of the united states talks, you hear every single word , then you need the trolls that come on after to let you know what he really was saying?

The days when we sat around the radio, and listened to a basket ball game play by play, that’s good, but why are we still caught up in the 30’s regurgitating what we see or think no one else can see, or understand like we are the only ones present at the time this took place. that’s being a troll, regurgitating what we all heard only with YOUR twist on it.

90% of all the comments on this thread have fallen into this category, senseless gurgitations of what WE all have heard, I used to do this getting the last word in, getting high off of the push and pull of the heated comments (trolling) a good friend of mine had to pull me aside and show me what a troll is.
When I couldn’t see it, and if you come to Avalon forum they wont tolerate it. And you need to start biting your Tung, and stop getting drawn into these troll fests.

I woke up and have held my to Tung, here, and I was one of you who think your are not a troll. We do not need radio announcers anymore so now I’m retired. Namste JOhn

[jaybee]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
All this now puts the ball back into BW's court and if he cannot deliver, its going to be blatently obvious to Kerry, Bill R and all of us pretty soon..
The point is he has put his neck on the line and lets see what he delivers, if anything at all....

It is difficult to see what else he could say/do...unless he tries to use his 'juicy juicy' pictures, that he claims he has from Las Vegas sex and drug parties. But that could be a fatal move to make?

Posted by BestLion (here)

I'm considering that Brockbrader has been 'handled'...brought into this whole thing as a special PSYOPS start-of-2012 drama...but he will ultimately be thrown to the wolves.

Yes I am of the opinion that this character is the one who is being used to discredit PC. And yet many here think it is the other way around. Time will tell I suppose.
.

indeed it will

and just wanted to say...good work on this thread BestLion


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[Cidersomerset]

As I said Dons interview was good from his point of view and the body language observations are interresting ,but I noticed that at the time and I put it down to
nerves and the pressure of comming out , also having to confess to being a sex offender at the same time, it would have been more strange if he had not been
nervous imho...

As the interview went on the possibility of it being a con was there, but it also energized me, and the second interview bonding with David ,was a little worrying especially how vulnerable David probably feels,after his death threats and a bonding session between BW & DW seemed plausible and odd at the same time.....Of course BW could be a host of things,
if he turns out to be a fraud ,well he is in our parlour and we should be curtious while he is here and cross that bridge if it happens...