Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[Zaradia]

Thank you, Tommy. I'm new here and was beginning to get disappointed. I feel much better now. It's great that you're here!

[CeltMan]

Having read ALL of the posts on this thread, it seems to be similar to the analogy of
- ‘The Elephant & the Three Blind Men’

I am sure most are familiar with this one?

The concept being that: one can never have a satisfactory conclusion of a situation, when the perspectives are varied due to a lack of facts.

Not debating what cannot (at this moment in time) be proven one way or the other?
And certainly not attacking others as their view points happen to differ (perhaps because one person is ‘holding the elephants leg’, another ‘holding its tail’ etc?) –or accusing others of being trolls, etc ,.

What will happen, in near or distant future, is not information that is available to us at present.

As has been suggested, as a positive statement in that long interview, (and as I summarised about 20 mins after the end of the live interviews-post number 39, having stayed up all night) - in the main points of that Long session:

“Based upon our ‘projected collective beliefs’, We Create our own Reality “

Surely that is what we should all (majority?)- be in agreement over?

And perhaps we can all focus our positive energies on a 'Positive Future for Mankind & Planet Earth'?

[onawah]

That's a good set of solutions, CeltMan.
Another solution I would like to suggest, though I know it won't help Seeingterra, who has more complex technical issues to deal with, is one that I think is underrated and underutilized.
It's the "IGNORE" option.
It's amazing how that little button can eliminate such a lot of unwelcome complications!

[sygh]

Do I have a chance at listening to the chat and Q&A with Kerry Bill, Bil,l and David or, is it gone now?

[jackovesk]

21st December 2012 Is The Date The Elites Fear.

Project Looking Glass is a supercomputer which is able to analyse the future. All possible timelines lead to the same conclusion that the current paradigm of existence runs out on that date.

Bill Wood (not his real name), clearance Above Top Secret says that all the people who know everything about Project Looking Glass are in a blind panic as to what will happen. As the system approached crisis previously, the elites were able to manipulate and find a way round the crisis. But as of December 21st 2012, no manipulations are available which can get the system running again. The way of running the world through manipulation from the top simply won't work any more.

Sent in by Julia

TAP - It makes you think that if they hadn't invented computers, the problems would all be solved already. If the elites are done, that gives the rest of us a chance to get our worlds running properly. Bloody relief, if you ask me. Bill calls it The Awakening. The 'massive dam of lies' will hold no longer. The 'slop trough' of wrong information they feed us will be exposed. They don't have control of the world in any real sense. They simply engineer manipulations for which the reaction they can predict, and then they manipulate again. It's over - in less than twelve months. Better get ready, folks. Big Brother is out of ideas. We can teach a new way of thought from ground level.

JULIA wrote: The Bill Wood interview goes on to get even better, and was then confirmed when I snuggled up with my di book for a bedtime read. The coincidences I am getting are incredible. BW was trained in using senses beyond his 5. He describes it as like the jedi. He was taught how to predict the future. It is easy if you just believe you can do it, and a small amount of training. He had top security clearance. The US military has hundreds of spaceships. They can get to Mars in a day, and that was 10 years ago. There is human activity on Mars and the Moon. The problem is that people can no longer see much into the future. So the elite are panicking. They can't control things any more. The ability to make a decision that influences the future is diminishing rapidly as everything, including multiple timelines, converges on 21st dec 2012. My son's birthday.

Ex-Navy Seal Says Bin Laden Was Dead Before May 2nd 2011.

Saturday, 28 January 2012 11:47

It is very long, so you might have to wait til you get back! Bill Wood is an ex US navy man and was fighting in a war that we were officially not having in Iraq. I am only quarter of the way through so far. There is stuff about 911, mind control, shooting civilian targets, selection processes. The positive news is that there are plenty of people within the government, navy, army, CIA that are secretly rebelling. They are called the 'Oathkeepers', because they stick to their original oath, rather than mindlessly obey.

Bill was inspired to whistleblow after the NDAA at New Year.

Julia

He claims that Bin Laden was not alive when it is claimed he was killed by Seal Team 6 on May 2nd 2011. Seal Team 6 was itself wiped out in an exploding helicopter after, in Bill's opinion, not killing Bin Laden. (TAP - many think they were all killed to stop the truth coming out)

He claims far more military activity has been going on in The Middle East than has been publicised, with attacks on numerous countries using Tomahawk missiles, ongoing since the first Gulf War, all through the 1990s, unknown to the rest of the world. He did his duty until one day another Seal Team was detailed to wipe out a village where he had become friendly with the people.

He then could no longer carry on killing innocent civilians as he was being ordered to do each month.

He was then forced into a mental institution and given mind-bending drugs before he was released from the military six months later. He had once refused to target a weapon onto a group of innocent civilians on one occasion, before the loss of his friends (in Iraq), and was court-martialled within a month, not for the refusal to obey the targeting information, but for a trivial sexual misdemeanour which had happened some years before. He was made to plead guilty and sentenced to 11 years in gaol. He knew that if he refused to kill again, the sentence would be carried out.

He also believes that The Pentagon was hit with a Tomahawk missile, not a 747, and says the turn made by the Tomahawk was a manoeuvre he was used to seeing, and was not one that could be made by a 747. He didn't seem to know about the other theories about how the planes were flown into the Twin Towers - that they weren't planes at all, but computer images superimposed onto other military remotely-controlled vehicles of a different kind. I stopped watching at 1 hour and went to bed. At least the film was working as signal improves here late at night.

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[etm567]

It's still there. I had trouble getting it to work the first time, though, and I had to listen on Facebook. There is a link to Livestream. One word of advice: if it doesn't work, register for Livestream. That fixed it for me. Good luck.

ETM

[sygh]

I'm half way through listening to the interview (yup, I found it on utube, thanks for your help, etm). All I can say is yes, I understand. I want to see the looking glass. I would send love, absolute, unconditional love utterly full, and absolutely encompassing the whole of the universe.

I want to know why the Elite wanted to force time line #two. How would it have been a benefit to destroy the earth?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by sygh (here)
I'm half way through listening to the interview (yup, I found it on utube, thanks for your help, etm). All I can say is yes, I understand. I want to see the looking glass. I would send love, absolute, unconditional love utterly full, and absolutely encompassing the whole of the universe.

I want to know why the Elite wanted to force time line #two. How would it have been a benefit to destroy the earth?

There are several potential answers to this question. Do a search for Bill's video release "The Anglo Saxon Agenda". Some theorize that those in power would rather stash everything they need away, scorch the earth, and then emerge from their holes to rule the rubble than to give up power forever.

[sygh]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by sygh (here)
I'm half way through listening to the interview (yup, I found it on utube, thanks for your help, etm). All I can say is yes, I understand. I want to see the looking glass. I would send love, absolute, unconditional love utterly full, and absolutely encompassing the whole of the universe.

I want to know why the Elite wanted to force time line #two. How would it have been a benefit to destroy the earth?

There are several potential answers to this question. Do a search for Bill's video release "The Anglo Saxon Agenda". Some theorize that those in power would rather stash everything they need away, scorch the earth, and then emerge from their holes to rule the rubble than to give up power forever.

I was thinking -ultimately time line two would absolutely destroy the world, and I still think it would, regardless of what Bill is saying. It's all or nothing. At any rate, that's what I was thinking.

[jackovesk]

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by sygh (here)
I'm half way through listening to the interview (yup, I found it on utube, thanks for your help, etm). All I can say is yes, I understand. I want to see the looking glass. I would send love, absolute, unconditional love utterly full, and absolutely encompassing the whole of the universe.

I want to know why the Elite wanted to force time line #two. How would it have been a benefit to destroy the earth?

There are several potential answers to this question. Do a search for Bill's video release "The Anglo Saxon Agenda". Some theorize that those in power would rather stash everything they need away, scorch the earth, and then emerge from their holes to rule the rubble than to give up power forever.

I was thinking -ultimately time line two would absolutely destroy the world, and I still think it would, regardless of what Bill is saying. It's all or nothing. At any rate, that's what I was thinking.

Agreed sygh,

Because 'Humanities' very Freedom & Survival depends on it...

My own 'Knowing' tells me from a 'Collective Consciousness' POV, 2012 is a make or break year..!

Those who 'Doubt' these words, should give up the 'Spiritual' fight now and go back down and hide beneath the rocks of 'Hell' with their OWO/PTW buddies..!

[Tarka the Duck]

@seeing terra

I do not know for sure if it is naivety or something else that drives these kind of individuals, but some have stated directly they work for Don Shipley (work as in getting paid right?).

I haven't heard about this. Please could you clarify and provide names so that this can be verified?

Don has not responded to my official request for documentation, something I told him might have consequences.

May I ask what official documentation you have requested? I thought a request for documentation had to go through the official channels.

Thanks
Kathie

[DNA]

I think it is wierd that Woods and Wilcock kept going to the well on the Stargate television show. I'm suprised they didn't mention the Fringe television show.
Fringe seems to parrallel what they are talking about a lot more than Stargate does.
Fringe is based on two timelines, and they are on a convergence. Both time lines know that at one point, only one can survive.
Further more travel between the two timelines is possible with wormhole technology.

[Tony]

In fact I'd go as far as saying...
WE ARE CONSTANTLY BEING MISDIRECTED AND MISLED!

It's a comic book scenario – special powers!, time machines, yellow cubes, portals, abductions, contactees, UFOs, aliens and fairies... it's what you want...! Or is it?

Before you think aliens think... PYRAMID MASS HYPNOSIS! Everyone is being used.

THEY -WANT -US -TO -GET -ANGRY -AND -OVER -REACT.

Problem, reaction, solution.

[jackovesk]

Posted by DNA (here)
I think it is wierd that Woods and Wilcock kept going to the well on the Stargate television show. I'm suprised they didn't mention the Fringe television show.
Fringe seems to parrallel what they are talking about a lot more than Stargate does.
Fringe is based on two timelines, and they are on a convergence. Both time lines know that at one point, only one can survive.
Further more travel between the two timelines is possible with wormhole technology.

I watched Stargate SG 1 - Wormhole exTreme Episode,

Basically what DW was alluding to was the 'above' episode was factual and written in the 3rd person (Secret Govt.), saying it was the Truth...

whereas...

Fringe talks about 2 Timelines operating sequentially...

[Cidersomerset]

Fringe is great.... Peter has effected fives time lines now and the story although obviously fiction is based on current quantom thinking....

And the references to MK Ultra and psychotropic drugs and mind altering experiments are plausibly portrayed...


The gang discussing Fringe and portalling to parrallel worlds great fun...

http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/...rt-2-more.html

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rlds-Universes

All the Olivia's are hot ...imho...Steve..



I,m about to watch episode 10, season 4.........Peter is now interacting with parrallel Earths 4 & 5 .....great viewing...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Fi-Disclosure

[Tony]

This video will show how easy it is to abduct someone, and make them believe anything suggested. Some countries mat not be able to open it because of copy rights.

Ah! It seems I cannot do this..sorry.
It shows Derren Brown instantaneously abducting someone!

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-mov...zombies/136190


GOT IT!!!!

[christian]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
@seeing terra

I do not know for sure if it is naivety or something else that drives these kind of individuals, but some have stated directly they work for Don Shipley (work as in getting paid right?).

I haven't heard about this. Please could you clarify and provide names so that this can be verified?

Don has not responded to my official request for documentation, something I told him might have consequences.

May I ask what official documentation you have requested? I thought a request for documentation had to go through the official channels.

Thanks
Kathie

Work must not necessarily mean someone gets paid. I volunteer a lot. Anyways, from the 5000 friends Don has on facebook I'm sure there are some that let themselves be used as mouthpieces. Especially as Don encouraged his friends repeatedly with posts like this one: "I'll ask everyone who gives a **** about this PHONY SEAL, to sign up and log in and we'll all BLAST his ass shortly... "

I requested documentation from Don also, I asked him to substantiate the claim he made, that the girl was 12. He didn't answer and as turned out in the interview on Nexus, he admitted that no one knows her age (I guess the judge did know) and he came up with twelve, based on the sentence BW received he concluded she must have been between 12 and 15 he said then. - It's not good style to then post "I know she was 12". This is a cheap assasination of character that would not be necessary, if he got hard facts anyway.

[Jenci]

Posted by sygh (here)
I want to know why the Elite wanted to force time line #two. How would it have been a benefit to destroy the earth?

Where attention goes, energy goes.

Many eyes, it seems, are on 21 Dec 2012 and not on what is going on now. It's a useful distraction. In the meantime what laws are being passed to take away freedoms? What is happening to the Euro? What's going on in Iran?

If the story about timelines is true, then why can't we change the timeline today? Who is dictating the date of this? ......The PTB are leading us to where they want us.

If they can focus the alternative media on this date, when nothing happens in December, we all end up with less credibility which means those people still not awake are going to be less likely to listen to us in the future.

Look at who we are being asked to believe here. This man, who is a sex offender, supposedly had access to the most top secret technology and supposedly had such special skills that the elite had to ask him to use it.

By his own admission he was locked down for 6 months pyschologically, practically in a coma from drugs and 'torture'. What are we being asked to believe here?

And if the story doesn't turn out to be true how does that make the alternative media look, that this man, of all people, was believed? Do we really not think that if his story was true about looking glass, that he would have been killed by now?

Timeline 1 is the evolution of the collective human Consciousness. Anyone who understands anything about this knows that Consciousness is "timeless". So where is the date when it is going to happen coming from?

Jeanette

[Faydra]

Dear sygh, please forgive me if I correct an idea you saiid as far as they WANT to have the timelines converge. I don't believe they (the elite) liked it, as they lose control like everyone else.

It's not a good timeline, for any of us, and I think that's what gives us the power of pray and meditation, Gathering and having mass conscious, if you will, assuming we are the "good guys". If we try to heal the planet with our conciousness it just may help!!!

As the elites are freaking out because their models don't work anymore.

Once again, forgive me as I am brand new here, and totally wrong perhaps. To me, the big picture is simple. It sounds like smart physical protection and positive intention of thought with others who also have hope will keep us more calm, and calm is more careful, clever, prepared than the powers that be worship their technology when I believe in becoming more spiritual.

[Cidersomerset]

Some good points Jenci .......I expect most of us do not necessarilly believe his story at this piont , but we are waiting on further developments
What i and others were concerned about is hysteria created over his authenticity without waiting for confirmation from the guys
interviwing him.....Its great to have opinions and debate and no one is being hood winked at this point imho because we have only been
given referrences to things already discussed by other witnesses and its his testimony that is being gone over by Kerry and others to see if it can
be validated.....Steve