Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[CdnSirian]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Aquai (here)
If anyone could give me a quick recap of what this is all about - that would be awesome.

I dont really have the time to read through 35 pages :/

Watch the Bill Wood testimony on Camelot and the conference with him, David Wilcock, Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy, I'd suggest, a summary is on the Camelot page: http://projectcamelotproductions.com...bill_wood.html

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Posted by CdnSirian (here)
As I said before I may be happy to send a dollar after the "big reveal". It's not about a dollar.

The whole point of it is to do it before the interview.
Doing it after the interview would be like loving your spouse only after you and her died, kind of...

Huh? How do you get that out of a solicitation for funds?

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Lazlo (here)
For all I know he needs to pay a lawyer because he broke parole by going to California to meet Kerry.

Sorry, but there is no way this guy should be getting money. $1 to help change the world, sounds great, but I would suggest buying a sandwich for a hungry person instead, food bank donation, animal shelter, recycling center, boys and girls club......


WAIT...BY JOE I'VE GOT IT !

Let's send the money to a group that provides support to victims of abuse and sex crimes.

http://www.rainn.org/

http://www.pandys.org/donate.html

http://www.americanhumane.org/childr...FWgZQgodt1XauA

http://www.childmolestationpreventio...ages/hero.html

Seriously, sometimes I am actually embarrassed to be a member of this forum. I can't believe you would send money to this guy. You should be ashamed.

I guarantee that any one of these groups would be thrilled to accept and track donations made in reference to Brockbrader, and they would be happy to let us know just how much support he has.

I'm NOT ashamed. you should be ashamed for suggesting such a thing. Most of us have done something in the past that we are not proud of. If his testimony resonated with you and you tust him then support him. If it didn't and you don't that's fine too. Cool it with the negativity. It is not appreciated.

[TargeT]

Posted by Lazlo (here)
Seriously, sometimes I am actually embarrassed to be a member of this forum. I can't believe you would send money to this guy. You should be ashamed.

even if he is not what he says he is, it is not his fault that he has not found his true self, we should pitty him not hate him.

generosity to anyone who needs from anyone who is willing to give is not something to be embarrassed of; intent is key, if his intent is bad, he will have to face his own demons for it, my intent is good and giving is a positive energetic direction of intent and will, and since I see every system as "muscle like" (use it or lose it) I don't mind this minor; mostly symbolic exersize.

[Lazlo]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

I'm NOT ashamed. you should be ashamed for suggesting such a thing. Most of us have done something in the past that we are not proud of. If his testimony resonated with you and you tust him then support him. If it didn't and you don't that's fine too. Cool it with the negativity. It is not appreciated.

I would feel differently if he showed even the tiniest bit of remorse. The closest he got to this was when he said in the livestream that someone told him that she actually was under the age of consent, and oops, maybe he did technically commit a crime. He made quite a point of it.

What stuck out for me about that was that I can not concievably see how he was on trial facing 11 years in prison (assuming we believe everything else that he said regarding the matter) and he didn't understand the charges or what else was happening in the proceedings. If he is that clueless, then well...what's that say about the rest of the testimony?

[spiritguide]

A dollar donated here. Positive energies to the future. Guess it has something to do with being selfless.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Lazlo (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

I'm NOT ashamed. you should be ashamed for suggesting such a thing. Most of us have done something in the past that we are not proud of. If his testimony resonated with you and you tust him then support him. If it didn't and you don't that's fine too. Cool it with the negativity. It is not appreciated.

I would feel differently if he showed even the tiniest bit of remorse. The closest he got to this was when he said in the livestream that someone told him that she actually was under the age of consent, and oops, maybe he did technically commit a crime. He made quite a point of it.

What stuck out for me about that was that I can not concievably see how he was on trial facing 11 years in prison (assuming we believe everything else that he said regarding the matter) and he didn't understand the charges or what else was happening in the proceedings. If he is that clueless, then well...what's that say about the rest of the testimony?

I have to admit that that is a good point that i hadn't thought much about.

[Lazlo]

Posted by TargeT (here)
even if he is not what he says he is, it is not his fault that he has not found his true self, we should pitty him not hate him.

I don't hate him, I never said that. But a lot of $1 donations can add up to substantial money. Ask the march of dimes, or the salvation army, or the MD association, or...

[gripreaper]

I think John Beluchi sums it up quite nicely as he plays Jake in the Blues Brothers:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JFvujknrBuE

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[CdnSirian]

Giving him a dollar has nothing to do with his dis-advantaged sex offender status, or the theoretical need for a lawyer (he doesn't say that) or anything. He does not say that he is personally poor, or unemployed. He says he wants to raise money for some soon-to-be-revealed PLAN to change the world! Well I have no problem with that, or with anyone who wants to give him a dollar now.

Once The Plan is revealed, I may want to give him much more than a dollar. I will see.

[sygh]

Posted by Kano (here)
Ok, switching gears here for a minute.

In the second interview, BW says that something major has happened or is about to happen for him and then Bill Ryan guesses that part of this major thing that is happening/going to happen for BW is the act of doing the interview itself. However, mums the word on what this is. I haven't read any comments on that part of the interview and was very interested in that facet of it. Does anyone have an idea or even care what that might be?

Cheers,
Kano

Consider the military over-throwing the current government.

[spiritguide]

No mention of revealing a plan just that the dollar vote will show those working on it that there are many numbers behind the endeavor. It's a go for it vote that's all. Just wanted to clear up why he needed the dollar and I hope he gets many so they can get the show on the road. Oh by the way I am a paid member of the oath keepers and I walk the talk.

[Selene]

Absolutely, SpiritGuide.

It’s not about the dollar/votes as such; it’s about the inherent vote of confidence here – the message each donation sends to the top guys who can write the big checks with “the big zeroes”. And that money will surely be needed as we go forward.

Understand, friends: Your signature on a petition means “nothing” to a power-broker – that’s (as far as they are concerned) friggin’ free. But any money – even a dollar – speaks loudly to power. Them’s the facts, kids. You pay, you play. Or go home.

Putting your money where your mouth is matters more than the money itself. For a buck, you cannot possibly get a better nor more influential vote in the outcome at any price.

Our dollar/votes can speak very loudly indeed to those power brokers who are in a position to help Oath Keepers by writing out “big zeroes”. And the critical time is now; the balance is weighing.

My two cents, anyway.

Do it,

Selene

[Cilka]

Donating a dollar is not the problem for me. I just have a problem with him wanting to identify the number of supporters that are out there. Why does he need to know how many of us are supporting him? Is it just him that is in need to know this number, or is there someone else who is after this number? Who cares how many are supporting him? This just does not click with me, and other things as well.

[jackovesk]

Posted by onawah (here)
Though I think there must be some truth in the story which will obviously take time to ferret out, I find the following points to be very relevant.
All this IS hugely distracting.
No wonder we're all tired!
And getting more and more tired of the whole game, and less and less willing to play, speaking for myself, at any rate.
But perhaps that is a necessary step.
The ego likes distracting games.
Perhaps the more we get fed up with it, the less likely it will be continuing.
I mean REALLY fed up!
Because if we accept that we truly are the CREATORS of these games, (though largely unaware that we are) once we get fed up enough with it, we will create something new and different.
But the recognition of our Creator status is the most important part of the process.
Once we've accomplished that, I would think we will find better uses for our energy than games.
Such as cleaning up the planet.

Good to see your starting to catch on, Onawah...

[NancyV]

I appreciated that "Bill Wood" did not overly defend or offer excuses for his alleged sex crime. I say alleged because to have sex with a 15 or 16 year old defined as a sex crime is ludicrous, in my opinion, and is just another government control that I don't like. Throughout history females often married at very young ages, sometimes as young as 12...or younger. The age of consent is still 12 in a few countries. In many other countries it is 13, 14 or 15. Different states in the US have different ages of consent but none of the states had an age of consent over 12 until the 1880's. So all of a sudden after thousands of years of history females can no longer decide to have sex until they are over 16?

Personally my first boyfriend when I was 15 was 25. I left home at 16 and lived in Mexico with a 50 year old man for almost a year. My 3rd boyfriend when I was 17 and returned to the US was a 35 year old Russian professor at the University of California Irvine. Some females are ready to enter into sexual relations at younger ages than others. If anyone told me not to go out with older men I told them to mind their own business and I did what I wanted to do.

Bill Wood says he didn't know how young the girl was. Maybe he's telling the truth. He is correct in saying that "technically" it was a crime, but I believe it is a victim-less crime if the female consented to the sex. So I do not think his punishment fit the "crime" if the girl consented. He has been punished enough but obviously there are many people out there who don't think about the fact that the age of consent laws have not always had the consenting age as high as 16 or 18 and they can't resist castigating a man for a past mistake which probably should not even BE a crime.

[aranuk]

I tried to give a dollar in Camelot tonight but had trouble giving it. It seems the only way there to give money is by PayPal. It wouldn't accept my debit card. I have had trouble with Paypal for years because my original bank account had to be dumped as I had problems with internet shamsters trying to extract money from me with false pretences. Paypal will not allow me to give my new bank account number at all. It keeps looping asking me to give my password, or all sorts of things which keep looping. I wanted to give a dollar but Camelot only wants it via paypal. Well **** em.

Stan

[Ilie Pandia]

I very much agree that we should put our money where the value is! All too often those that provide real value are left with not financial support while money flows on so called "entertainment", "beauty products" and... you get the picture.

But I personally see no value in more secret plans and secret agendas.

Think about it for a moment. Where do you get value in your daily life? Are you supporting those you get value from? Not of a sense of duty or obligation but as a statement that "Yes, this is what I want to see more of, so I'll take money from the corporate affairs and I'll give some to this man or woman or project that makes a difference in their local community". I for one cannot show support for a plan I don't know anything of...

[TargeT]

Posted by NancyV (here)
I appreciated that "Bill Wood" did not overly defend or offer excuses for his alleged sex crime. I say alleged because to have sex with a 15 or 16 year old defined as a sex crime is ludicrous, in my opinion, and is just another government control that I don't like. Throughout history females often married at very young ages, sometimes as young as 12...or younger. The age of consent is still 12 in a few countries. In many other countries it is 13, 14 or 15. Different states in the US have different ages of consent but none of the states had an age of consent over 12 until the 1880's. So all of a sudden after thousands of years of history females can no longer decide to have sex until they are over 16?

Personally my first boyfriend when I was 15 was 25. I left home at 16 and lived in Mexico with a 50 year old man for almost a year. My 3rd boyfriend when I was 17 and returned to the US was a 35 year old Russian professor at the University of California Irvine. Some females are ready to enter into sexual relations at younger ages than others. If anyone told me not to go out with older men I told them to mind their own business and I did what I wanted to do.

Bill Wood says he didn't know how young the girl was. Maybe he's telling the truth. He is correct in saying that "technically" it was a crime, but I believe it is a victim-less crime if the female consented to the sex. So I do not think his punishment fit the "crime" if the girl consented. He has been punished enough but obviously there are many people out there who don't think about the fact that the age of consent laws have not always had the consenting age as high as 16 or 18 and they can't resist castigating a man for a past mistake which probably should not even BE a crime.

Romio 'n Julet were what... 14 'n 15?

I couldn't agree with your statement more.. in fact I think the "age of consent" is a part of the plan to keep us "children" for ****ING EVER.... 23 year olds living in their parrents houses? WT F? I was out of "my house" at like 15

same with allthe other **** that delays personal responsability

[modwiz]

Posted by NancyV (here)
I appreciated that "Bill Wood" did not overly defend or offer excuses for his alleged sex crime. I say alleged because to have sex with a 15 or 16 year old defined as a sex crime is ludicrous, in my opinion, and is just another government control that I don't like. Throughout history females often married at very young ages, sometimes as young as 12...or younger. The age of consent is still 12 in a few countries. In many other countries it is 13, 14 or 15. Different states in the US have different ages of consent but none of the states had an age of consent over 12 until the 1880's. So all of a sudden after thousands of years of history females can no longer decide to have sex until they are over 16?

Personally my first boyfriend when I was 15 was 25. I left home at 16 and lived in Mexico with a 50 year old man for almost a year. My 3rd boyfriend when I was 17 and returned to the US was a 35 year old Russian professor at the University of California Irvine. Some females are ready to enter into sexual relations at younger ages than others. If anyone told me not to go out with older men I told them to mind their own business and I did what I wanted to do.

Bill Wood says he didn't know how young the girl was. Maybe he's telling the truth. He is correct in saying that "technically" it was a crime, but I believe it is a victim-less crime if the female consented to the sex. So I do not think his punishment fit the "crime" if the girl consented. He has been punished enough but obviously there are many people out there who don't think about the fact that the age of consent laws have not always had the consenting age as high as 16 or 18 and they can't resist castigating a man for a past mistake which probably should not even BE a crime.

The irony is also these are laws made by the elite. These laws are part of a judicial system that is against us and under other circumstances we would be decrying their abuse. In this case though, these consent laws support an idea many hold or were given to hold. These laws have nothing to do with common law and are part and parcel of the Admiralty/corporate laws we usually hate, and rightly so.