Why We See More & More Aliens

[astralflyer]

Thread renamed as the previous title appeared to be somewhat misleading


There seems to be an ever increasing number of sightings and experiences of various categories, especially over the last couple of years.

So I guess the question which begs is "why are we beginning to see all these things all of a sudden?"

To that we might lean to the writings of Greg Braden and the channels of Bashar to name but a couple, and attempt to apply them to these phenomenon:

It revolves around two precepts, which I think people are beginning to accept, firstly that time actually appears to be speeding up (or getting shorter) and accelerating to a zero-point at the end of the year as according the Braden and pretty much everyone saying "where's the day gone?". Secondly, that there exists parallel realities to this 3D experience, as according to Bashar and my own astral experiences.

If these two concepts are correct, and there seems no reason not to deny them, then we can extend and apply these theories into practical applications, so here goes...

imagine for instance, the analogy of our life experience being Cable TV, the video and audio down a vessel of Light, the vessel this time being a glass fibre "cable", ok thats pretty easy. Now imagine that, as in cable TV, there are many many channels all transmitting their own TV signal down the same optical fibre. OK so the recipient "tunes in" to a channel in order to experience a particular programme material.

OK so that sits fine, but there is one critical factor, how can many channels be transmitted down a single cable TV optical fibre? and the answer is TIME. We "tune in" to a channel by choosing a particular "time slot" or "frequency" .

f=1/T where f = frequency (Hz) and T=time (s).

but what if time itself where speeding up (ie getting shorter?)

then the Distance between two adjacent channels would be getting less and less, until the signal from one channel would begin to merge with the channel "next to it".

wavelength=1/frequency

So, in effect, if our existence in this 3D world were, lets say, "channel 5", then if time were speeding up, thus wavelength and distance between channels were becoming shorter, we would begin to "see" and experience events from adjacent channels within our own existence or our own channel, much akin to the "ghosting" effect of the old analogue TV sets.

If we then take that to it's extreme, and follow Bradens theory of time collapsing into a zero-point by Dec 2012 then at this zero point all "TV channels" would combine into one single experience, without any time. And if there is no time, there is no space, and there is no cause-and-effect, no karma.

Here's a diagram I knocked up which would probably explain it better than words...


http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...l/65850437.jpg

We will, in effect, have returned to the source, and be re-integrated with the God consciousness.
We will, in effect, have "ascended" / been enlightened / found Nirvana.

All we need to do is get through the rest of this year.

☼AF☼

[PurpleLama]

I think perhaps the entity is much more in control, or having influence over the artifacts that form the consensus reality. Perhaps it is our own mental/emotional stat that has time seeming to speed up/slow down and just maybe these things appear or disappear relative to the importance our consciousness places inportance upon them.

I recommend chewing on this thread for a while:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nce-reality..-

[Peace of Mind]

I haven’t seen any yet, and suspect that there’s a cunning set up on the horizon. Alien subjects no longer interest me because I clearly see them as distractions now. I know better now, the subject is actually not important as some so desperately want them to be. If you think so…Just simply ask yourself “why is this important, NOW?”

These vague alien claims do absolutely nothing positive for me or others… they offer no proof and famously have people chasing their tails day in and day out. Some even go to great lengths to get others to believe in such things instead of getting them to believe in something much more important “US”.

Some even say things like “just asks to be shown them and they will show up”. Well, I’ve ask to show me “real aliens and nothing manmade” all the time…I guess that’s why I never get to see anything surprising.

Some even make pale attempts at making themselves seem extraordinary /special by saying things like “those with eyes and ears can experience them”. Well, ok… and that might be the case. Unfortunately, from my observation of these characters making such claims… I’ve yet to witness anything explaining why they are more privy then others. I just see them sharing content that does nothing other than making people inactive. In reality, it’s disheartening all the way around. I kind of feel a bit sorry for some of my brothers and sisters. Not needing any proof of such things is a clear sign of gullibility. The elites depend whole heartily on people being just that… so they can continue to implement their lies and alien agenda on schedule.

One of my many objectives is to expose all fraudulence where ever it may surface. My commitment to humanity is pure and steadfast. There's no issue with me wearing that on my sleeves. I’m all about “US” not “THEM”.............. or the deceivers working for the elites.

If I can help it…false aliens and leadership will not be a part of our species future. The time for us to get real and concentrate on what really matters are long overdue… so we say.

Peace

[astralflyer]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
I haven’t seen any yet, and suspect that there’s a cunning set up on the horizon. Alien subjects no longer interest me because I clearly see them as distractions now. I know better now, the subject is actually not important as some so desperately want them to be. If you think so…Just simply ask yourself “why is this important, NOW?”

These vague alien claims do absolutely nothing positive for me or others… they offer no proof and famously have people chasing their tails day in and day out. Some even go to great lengths to get others to believe in such things instead of getting them to believe in something much more important “US”.

Some even say things like “just asks to be shown them and they will show up”. Well, I’ve ask to show me “real aliens and nothing manmade” all the time…I guess that’s why I never get to see anything surprising.

Some even make pale attempts at making themselves seem extraordinary /special by saying things like “those with eyes and ears can experience them”. Well, ok… and that might be the case. Unfortunately, from my observation of these characters making such claims… I’ve yet to witness anything explaining why they are more privy then others. I just see them sharing content that does nothing other than making people inactive. In reality, it’s disheartening all the way around. I kind of feel a bit sorry for some of my brothers and sisters. Not needing any proof of such things is a clear sign of gullibility. The elites depend whole heartily on people being just that… so they can continue to implement their lies and alien agenda on schedule.

One of my many objectives is to expose all fraudulence where ever it may surface. My commitment to humanity is pure and steadfast. There's no issue with me wearing that on my sleeves. I’m all about “US” not “THEM”.............. or the deceivers working for the elites.

If I can help it…false aliens and leadership will not be a part of our species future. The time for us to get real and concentrate on what really matters are long overdue… so we say.

Peace

The thread is Not about "aliens" as such, but about the sitings reported of unexplained events which may or may not include "aliens", or orbs, or ghosts or any other phenomenon along these lines etc etc. If you have actually read the posting in it's entirety this should, I hope, have been obvious. The title, however, was worded in such a way as to draw people's attention, whilst still being part of the subject matter. Thus best for us not to jump to an early conclusion, and respect others at all times. ☼AF☼.

[Peace of Mind]

Thanks for clarifying what I’ve already read. And yes, it’s just another distraction as it’s already been confirmed; even the topic is presented as a fishing hook. Sorry if you saw it as a little disrespectful, but it hardly is if you see it from another’s perspective, right? How will flooding the board with more wonder and/or accusations be doing us any favors? There’s already way too much talk here leading our minds into unimportant subjects. The lessening of such topics, or having dedicated topics for such posting will help ease the noise and organize the forum for easy viewing of other subjects. We are in important time that calls for important responsible action. We should not be wasting our time, especially when we feel that we are running out of it….I just don’t see the importance of all this alien talk. Do You?

When the year is over and nothing happens (as far as aliens and the 2012 hype) what will happen to the great minds that are currently here? They will most likely slowly leave the forum and go back to living their lives the way they were before they came here complaining about it in the first place.…It would be a tragic waste of a grand opportunity to have something special happen. I think (know) we can put our energy into subjects that actually matter. My apologies if your thoughts don't fall along the same lines...

Peace

[RMorgan]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
I haven’t seen any yet, and suspect that there’s a cunning set up on the horizon. Alien subjects no longer interest me because I clearly see them as distractions now. I know better now, the subject is actually not important as some so desperately want them to be. If you think so…Just simply ask yourself “why is this important, NOW?”

These vague alien claims do absolutely nothing positive for me or others… they offer no proof and famously have people chasing their tails day in and day out. Some even go to great lengths to get others to believe in such things instead of getting them to believe in something much more important “US”.

Some even say things like “just asks to be shown them and they will show up”. Well, I’ve ask to show me “real aliens and nothing manmade” all the time…I guess that’s why I never get to see anything surprising.

Some even make pale attempts at making themselves seem extraordinary /special by saying things like “those with eyes and ears can experience them”. Well, ok… and that might be the case. Unfortunately, from my observation of these characters making such claims… I’ve yet to witness anything explaining why they are more privy then others. I just see them sharing content that does nothing other than making people inactive. In reality, it’s disheartening all the way around. I kind of feel a bit sorry for some of my brothers and sisters. Not needing any proof of such things is a clear sign of gullibility. The elites depend whole heartily on people being just that… so they can continue to implement their lies and alien agenda on schedule.

One of my many objectives is to expose all fraudulence where ever it may surface. My commitment to humanity is pure and steadfast. There's no issue with me wearing that on my sleeves. I’m all about “US” not “THEM”.............. or the deceivers working for the elites.

If I can help it…false aliens and leadership will not be a part of our species future. The time for us to get real and concentrate on what really matters are long overdue… so we say.

Peace

Hi my friend,

Well, almost everything can be considered a distraction. Once you find out what what people are trying to hide from you, the reason they distract you, well, you´ll find the holly grail.

When you think there´s no legitimacy in every alien contact report, I think you´re doing just like TPTB planned. Remember why they´ve spent so many efforts on ridiculing such matters.

Personally, I know there are some people out there trying to draw attention to themselves, for several reasons, using the alien subject.

However, I also know some people that are telling the truth about their encounters. One of them is a very respected member of this forum.

The alien subject really matters. Even if we consider that only 1% of all alien reports and encounters are genuine, well, that´s a big number in the end. So, if we know that some alien race is indeed making contact with some people here, randomly or not, this is in fact a very important subject. Just think about what those aliens could teach us, in terms of technology, astrology, science and even religion.

I´m not saying that any alien race will save us from ourselves. Personally, I don´t really like this idea, but they must have a reason to be contacting some of us. We can´t say such reason is not important, because it is.

Also, how can you say that people are gullible for just believing in aliens without proof, and, at the same time, say that there´s an false flag alien agenda perpetrated by the so called "elite"? Do you have any proof about that? If you do, please, show us; If you don´t, how can you expect someone to believe you, if you´re the one saying that we shouldn´t believe anything without a concrete proof?

I agree that we all should focus on more grounded things. However, we can´t just turn our heads to such an important subject.

Some people out there are really dedicating a lot of time documenting and studying the alien subject, without asking for nothing in return. Just ask Mojo, who is a member here, about it.

I don´t know why some aliens are visiting us. I also don´t know why they choose some people to show themselves ( maybe there´s a reason, maybe it´s just random). All I know is that, if a definitive alien contact comes to happen, it will be the most important, paradigm shifting, thing that ever happened in human history. We once thought that the Earth was the center of the universe; Now we thing that we are the only intelligent race in the universe. It seems logical that this will also change.

Peace,

Raf.

[NancyV]

The explanation of "time speeding up" is a good one. I don't look at it quite the same way. Time may already be inconsequential and/or nonexistent. In my years of out of body travel I experienced time as only a local phenomenon felt by those who were dwelling in lower vibrational frequency locations...such as the earth plane and who had a belief in their perception of time. Instead of time, I see it as a question of vibrational frequency increasing, which I suppose you could call "time speeding up". Words usually don't describe things accurately.

I agree with Peace of Mind in one area: Aliens/ET's/other dimensionals really aren't overly important BUT it's quite entertaining to talk about them and hear stories from those who have seen them. I certainly enjoyed the times I've entered into other dimensions and seen beings of all types and I've also had fun seeing many UFO's over the years. I've enjoyed my husband's stories about Area 51 and the times he saw several different types of ET's there. I think it's just as silly to make non humans more important than they are as it is to criticize others for talking about their beliefs and actual experiences.

As far as time collapsing into a zero point...although I really like Greg Braden and others who believe something like that will happen around 12/21/2012 I really don't care one way or another as there will be no way to know until it happens. Since I think there is no time, perhaps it's just that more people will be able to perceive non linearity/no time through experiencing an upshift in their own personal vibrational frequency. When your vibrational frequency is faster the dimensional barriers are thinner and you can see into other dimensions. This has happened to me many times. It's not comfortable at first and can be somewhat disconcerting.

There is a hell of a lot of stuff going on around us that we just don't see most of the time. Most people won't believe this until they see it for themselves so it never bothers me when someone is skeptical. But to disbelieve what people say about their other-dimensional experiences and interactions with ET's and other-dimensional beings is sort of like being an atheist. A non belief is still a belief. Atheism is just as much a religion as Christianity or Islam, etc. If you BELIEVE there are no aliens or other dimensional beings because you personally haven't seen one, it's because you are ignorant of that reality. Your belief has no evidence to back it up so it's as ignorant as thinking that those who believe in ET's with no evidence are ignorant. If you don't know...you don't know. If you believe there are no ET's you are making a decision based on nothing but faith. The wise thing to do if you're a skeptic is to be agnostic...because you really don't know unless you've had personal experience...even then it's not wise to be SURE that you know everything because there is always more.

PS: A "Distraction" is in the mind of the beholder. We will never get everyone to agree with our own personal view of what is distracting and what is worthy of our attention, so it's a losing battle to even try.

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
I haven’t seen any yet, and suspect that there’s a cunning set up on the horizon. Alien subjects no longer interest me because I clearly see them as distractions now. I know better now, the subject is actually not important as some so desperately want them to be. If you think so…Just simply ask yourself “why is this important, NOW?”

These vague alien claims do absolutely nothing positive for me or others… they offer no proof and famously have people chasing their tails day in and day out. Some even go to great lengths to get others to believe in such things instead of getting them to believe in something much more important “US”.

Some even say things like “just asks to be shown them and they will show up”. Well, I’ve ask to show me “real aliens and nothing manmade” all the time…I guess that’s why I never get to see anything surprising.

Some even make pale attempts at making themselves seem extraordinary /special by saying things like “those with eyes and ears can experience them”. Well, ok… and that might be the case. Unfortunately, from my observation of these characters making such claims… I’ve yet to witness anything explaining why they are more privy then others. I just see them sharing content that does nothing other than making people inactive. In reality, it’s disheartening all the way around. I kind of feel a bit sorry for some of my brothers and sisters. Not needing any proof of such things is a clear sign of gullibility. The elites depend whole heartily on people being just that… so they can continue to implement their lies and alien agenda on schedule.

One of my many objectives is to expose all fraudulence where ever it may surface. My commitment to humanity is pure and steadfast. There's no issue with me wearing that on my sleeves. I’m all about “US” not “THEM”.............. or the deceivers working for the elites.

If I can help it…false aliens and leadership will not be a part of our species future. The time for us to get real and concentrate on what really matters are long overdue… so we say.

Peace

Hi my friend,

Well, almost everything can be considered a distraction. Once you find out what what people are trying to hide from you, the reason they distract you, well, you´ll find the holly grail.

When you think there´s no legitimacy in every alien contact report, I think you´re doing just like TPTB planned. Remember why they´ve spent so many efforts on ridiculing such matters.

Personally, I know there are some people out there trying to draw attention to themselves, for several reasons, using the alien subject.

However, I also know some people that are telling the truth about their encounters. One of them is a very respected member of this forum.

The alien subject really matters. Even if we consider that only 1% of all alien reports and encounters are genuine, well, that´s a big number in the end. So, if we know that some alien race is indeed making contact with some people here, randomly or not, this is in fact a very important subject. Just think about what those aliens could teach us, in terms of technology, astrology, science and even religion.

I´m not saying that any alien race will save us from ourselves. Personally, I don´t really like this idea, but they must have a reason to be contacting some of us. We can´t say such reason is not important, because it is.

Also, how can you say that people are gullible for just believing in aliens without proof, and, at the same time, say that there´s an false flag alien agenda perpetrated by the so called "elite"? Do you have any proof about that? If you do, please, show us; If you don´t, how can you expect someone to believe you, if you´re the one saying that we shouldn´t believe anything without a concrete proof?

I agree that we all should focus on more grounded things. However, we can´t just turn our heads to such an important subject.

Some people out there are really dedicating a lot of time documenting and studying the alien subject, without asking for nothing in return. Just ask Mojo, who is a member here, about it.

I don´t know why some aliens are visiting us. I also don´t know why they choose some people to show themselves ( maybe there´s a reason, maybe it´s just random). All I know is that, if a definitive alien contact comes to happen, it will be the most important, paradigm shifting, thing that ever happened in human history. We once thought that the Earth was the center of the universe; Now we thing that we are the only intelligent race in the universe. It seems logical that this will also change.

Peace,

Raf.

Hi family,

It’s not that I don’t believe the stories… I’m more bothered by them being presented as facts while most of the readers go along with it. Plus, there is more evidence leading us to believe that aliens are manmade. Abductions seem to be the works of our own people; we already know how slick and underhanded they can be. IMO, there is nothing in any of the testimonies convincing me they were off worldly beings.

I find myself reading/listening to this kind of material wondering just where I missed the parts providing authenticity. Whenever I ask for it…silence either follows or someone gets offended. That’s a sign of deceit, imo. If you are true, you should have no worries that the truth will aid you in revealing itself. Only liars feel the need to defend themselves…truth needs no defense.

You should automatically know how touchy these subjects are, and you should know logical thinking beings (humans) need something of substance to digest. Our suffering is an example of believing in lies and crying about it later, sometimes when it’s too late.

I state my opinions on this matter because all I see are opinions (until proven otherwise). I used to wonder about space and aliens too, but knew I had to discard those notions because most of our knowledge about the cosmos was taught to us by TPTB….Do you understand where I’m going with this?

To be clear, I still hold some thought of the cosmos being what they say it is...but I don't endulge in any of the discussions anymore...simply because I'll be promoting something that has a chance of being extremly fake. Anyone pushing these sought of discussions hard (in these times) may have a hidden agenda...so be mindful of that.

There's no real value in any of this alien talk. It’s getting us absolutely nowhere. I probably might offend some people with this, but if they can’t see this from other perspectives…then I’m more inclined to think they are more dangerous to people than I/we initially thought. Presentation can go along way when it comes to such things, even then you still need to provide a bit of proof. So much of this talk has turned the board into a free for all science fiction channel. How do you think the doom and gloom movie “2012” came about?

So, until confirmation shows itself, I’m driven to make matters hard for the deceivers and provide some coffee for those having a hard time focusing on what really matters. Wasting time is no longer an option for us; we must become more focused and start being what we say we are…fighting against what we are suppose to do will ultimately kill us….not TPTB. All the elites are doing is having us aid them in our own demise.

Peace

[astralflyer]

Please could we keep this thread "on topic", it seems to have gone astray and become slightly negative. Our belief-systems run deep I know, but I'm sure we could all agree, at least in part, to listen to one-another and not to be hypocritical to the fact that we are members of this forum in the first place, unless that is, there are those amongst us who still seek otherwise.

"Lets Take it From the Top" ....

[Alex Laker]

So assuming at least, that time does exist in our reality as a necessary parameter allowing us to experience the 3D world. (My own personal belief is that there is some form of time in all dimenions which supersedes and has full access to all the time dimensions below it), it's hard to explain. Anyway; if we assume that this 'time' penetrates our reality invariably and all things are governed by it equally - human consciousness and cable TV included - then if our consciousness is really merging perceptive frequencies into a 'zero point' where all realities are superimposed, then why do we not see on our televisions the same phenomenon, and appropriate chaos ensuing?

I will suggest one of two things. That in fact, this phenomenon is not occurring.

Or, it is more noticeable at higher frequencies. A miniscule dilation in the flow of time will lead to a large contraction in frequency. Comparitively low frequencies (in relation to conscious frequencies), such as those used by televisions are negligeably affected by a dilation in time. For instance,

A wave oscillating over a period of 1000 seconds has a frequency of 0.0001 Hertz. A dilation of time by 1 second (i.e. time slowing down, meaning the same wave now oscillates over a period of 1001 seconds) leads to a frequency of 0.00099 Hertz, and so the affect is negligeable.

A wave oscillating over a period of 1 second has a frequency of 1 Hertz. A dilation of time by 1 second leads to a frequency of 0.5 Hertz (a massive 50% shift, and so an affect is clearly seen).

Obviously I have kept the frequencies well below the levels actually used by televisions to make the difference obvious, but if we multiply these numbers by 500 billion for instance, the difference in effect is also multiplied by 500 billion, and so time slowing down on a cosmic scale would not affect our everyday perception of reality per se, but we might notice something a little awry, on a raw conscious level.

Note, that for this theory to be actually true regarding the zero point, it means that we will eventually see our terrestrial frequencies being encroached upon by the slowing down in time, by December 2012. Remarkably, this theory implies that if we can still listen to all the radio stations and watch all TV stations come mid-December 2012, then we can probably assume nothing is going to happen - or that the frequency analogy of consciousness is not correct. So actually this theory is quite far-reaching in that it makes a prediction which can be subject to a test, giving a result, which informs us about the nature of reality.

Needless to say, this is a fascinating point, and one which is logical as apposed to many other theories, which have no scientific basis, and flagrantly misuse physical terms such as density to make them seem more scientific.