Here and Now...What's Happening?

[9eagle9]

Yes from my perch where things just flow in the current I see people turning on videos, inatiating false substitutes, venerating floss and attacking the messenger so they don't have to confront the message because it is not in alighment with they 'think' things should be . That is not love and that is not light. It's resistance to their own condition. The same condition we all share. If we are actually in Oneness we are going to share the same condition. We brings the conditions down and the wall comes down.

Setting the condition that only fluff should be spoke of is....a condition. And anyone who objects to condtions must be a ranter. That is an obviated expression of a condition.

I understand that people need a safe place to retreat to , a rest from the world condition . But staying there isn't a retreat its avoidance. It should be a means of recovery so one can forge on instead it turns into a permanent vacation. I see the world changing but just me saying it is so doesn't make it true for everyone. Do I fool myself into thinking that extending words of light to a child lying in the dust is going to change their condition?

If we get in the flow what people want to see changed in the world is going to occur so much faster than taking permanent coffee breaks from it. It's coming in but the very people who want it keep resisting it because the van guard of the energy doesn't suit the conditions they've placed on how it should occur.

I'd obviously be false is I stated that I see the world as a shiny new place when that photo obviates the reality that it is not. We have to help change the reality of those who can't see it for themselve. The changes that our occuring in the world only have the resistance that we give it.

When we stop assigning values to what love and light and the truth really 'should' be the castle is going to come down ..

Feel sorry for the ranters if judgement needs to be so expressed but do know those ranters are creating space within themselves for unconditioned love.

That is what I see.

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Same old song and dance. For each person who wants to call out the injustice in the world there's someone who wants to dismiss them as ranter. So we become stalemated.

Ernies only error is that he confused injustice with indifference to the human condition. The human condition must first be addressed before the human potential can shine.

Is that how YOU see it? Same old same old? Stalemate?
Not from my perch.
And about the human condition being addressed first, how can that be done without there first being potential?
Who will be doing the addressing?

[modwiz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Modwiz,

That image makes me so angry and so sad, unbelievable we have so little influence that these dehumanizing things still occur.

What makes me sad, is that we do have influence over things like this and instead invest most time in perfering not to speak of negative things.

That photo is demonstrates the bottom pyramid of a brainwashing hierarchy. When will we well fed people be there? We talk about the world ending, apocalypse vs 2012 and the light
coming. For that child the world has already ended not in a beam of light and lighttransmuted body. That is not a life. This is not a life we'd choose for our children is it? Or for ourselves. So what are we choosing?

That isn't a life that is vivid of a containment system. Forgotten farm animals starving in the cellar of the hierarchy.

When stop obsessing so much about what the world changes are going to do for us, what is in it for us, how it's going to affect us and start reflecting about what world changes are going to do for children like that...our influence will be known. That child is reflection of our spiritual poverty. Our disconnect from god.

Our brainswash down here on the street level is no different than the brainwashing that is intiated from the top of the pyramid. The thing is.... is ours so less extreme we have the power to get out from under it. And we choose not to. So what choice does it leave that child.

But...We are not yet that child, so by our choice we are the insturments that allowed that child to come to that condition. If we in the Oneness that everyone babbles on mindlessl about, than that child is surely us.

We are not sad and angry enough, there's not enough anger and sadness to correct what we see in that photo. And we not that our 'talking and thinking about love' has not yet created a space for it.

We're not even allowed in this brave new light world to become angry enough because it's not luv-n-lighty, and positive. All we have to do is correct our thinking in order to begin facilating a cure for what that child represents and will we do it? No. Those who even suggest it are shouted down.

That child is physical representation of our inner reality. There is no arguement that someone can make about dimensions, future times, or multiple exiistences or that something is coming to save us at some point in the future that excuses what those children are enduring now.

When people can muster enough self value to return to reality , photos like that will begin to disappear. That requires work on our part. However one chooses to intiate it.

I can commiserate with the photographer. I noted on a thread the other day to observe people consantly reinforcing their own brainwash is like watching a satanic ritual conducted a dozen times a day.

I could cry, I could scream, I could very come close to tipping over and running through people who perpetrate that ****, and the funnny thing is people get angry at me for even expressing annoyance at their brainwash the dream they are spinning that is holding them captive and resulting in that photo. That dream hasn't done a thing for that child, that should be the evidence. We think it's going to do something for us?

We are not sad nor angry enough to even fully understand the part that we all play in this awful neglectful charade.

9eagle, the one way I have dealt with knowing that child is one of 14,000 other beings who do not awake to another day is to honor all food I eat. That knowledge allows me to never be bored with food no matter how many times I eat the same thing day after day. Knowing about that child can allow me to enjoy a crust of dry bread as if it were the finest confection. I will bless a potato chip and I never use the starve word in a way that does not acknowledge the gut gnawing look in the face of death that it is. I have not yet figured out how to stop the crime of people starving, but I have figured out how to stop the shame of my relationship to food. Working this world takes some fancy inner dance steps, but we are all capable of them.

Our society and media work 24/7 to keep us from thinking about these people unless it is time to raise money to pay the salaries of those who run the big mega charities, as they put sugar water around the eyes of people to make sure that the flies will be there for the photos.

So as long as one person still dies for lack of food we need to always be thankful for ours, it does mitigate the helplessness of what could overwhelm us as conscious beings . Neuro-linguistics allow us to take a personal inventory.

[Calz]

Posted by ulli (here)

Ernie Nemeth already sent a similar post. He also found that people got annoyed at him for his rants about the "injustice" of this world.

Thing is, for those of us who listen to these kinds of rants we end up confused, not knowing where to direct our sympathy, the children out there who are starving, or the ranter him/herself.

Loath as I am to dredge this up again ... pavlov's calz that I am ... tough love/mirrors/detachment ... ring a bell???

Where does detachment begin and compassion leave off???

Let us set aside distant land starving for a moment ...

Walking by a victim of a crime laying in the street looking up with pleading eyes for compassion ... how does detachment fit into that again??? Are we to smuggly assume there is a spiritual "lesson" going on there we must respect??? Walk on by ... don't worry you will understand it all with your life review.

Not trying to be snide and I ***really*** have no stomach for any more fighting.

I simply don't understand the disconnect there.

Clearly I am missing something.

[Lisab]

Ive got a peaceful, easy feeling and my heart area is warm. I'm wondering if Mariannes started.

Lately Ive been working with the violet flame again. I used to use it ages ago but dropped it when I dropped ascended masters lol. I had been feeling really anxious for a few days last week, around the solar flare activity but had visualised the flame for something else. Almost immediately I realised that my anxiety had disappeared and I was feeling calm and peaceful. I honestly felt so much better. I totally get why PL loves and works with purple himself. Its been really effective for me. Also got the purply sparkles in my eyeline thing going on too!

[Carmody]

easing off on the giant letters really helps alot.

[Calz]

Posted by Carmody (here)
easing off on the giant letters really helps alot.

sorry ... already backed off most colors ...

[Marianne]

Posted by modwiz (here)
9eagle, the one way I have dealt with knowing that child is one of 14,000 other beings who do not awake to another day is to honor all food I eat. That knowledge allows me to never be bored with food no matter how many times I eat the same thing day after day. Knowing about that child can allow me to enjoy a crust of dry bread as if it were the finest confection. I will bless a potato chip and I never use the starve word in a way that does not acknowledge the gut gnawing look in the face of death that it is. I have not yet figured out how to stop the crime of people starving, but I have figured out how to stop the shame of my relationship to food. Working this world takes some fancy inner dance steps, but we are all capable of them.

Our society and media work 24/7 to keep us from thinking about these people unless it is time to raise money to pay the salaries of those who run the big mega charities, as they put sugar water around the eyes of people to make sure that the flies will be there for the photos.

So as long as one person still dies for lack of food we need to always be thankful for ours, it does mitigate the helplessness of what could overwhelm us as conscious beings . Neuro-linguistics allow us to take a personal inventory.

MW, thanks button isn't enough for your post.
But still, thanks ....

[Guest]

We have to go within. We're our own guides.

Native American Indian peoples have had about 150 years to adujust to Christianity and the industrialized western world and mind. Suicide -nihilism is about 30 to 40 percent among children 8 to 19 years of age on the reservations, alcholism is about 40 to 60 percent, unemployment 50 to 80 percent. Just remembered -diabetes 50 percent and obesity 60 percent.

The Native American religious freedom act was enacted in 1976. 5 to 10 percent of the people practice their traditions. About 50 percent incorporate Christian religions with their traditional ways. The rest are either full Christians or totally assimalated into the western culture and do not know anything about their own people.

I've spent a lot of time with the people from Mexico to the Northern states. There is one thing they, the elders and the traditionalist, all say about these times.... the energy of the earth is changing and that there will be a great light wave that will come, "do not look at it turn away from it and there will be great floods."

Love,

Nora

we are all related

[9eagle9]

We are humans. We are related. This means that we work in relation to one another. What I change in myself is reflected out there.

I am no longer buying the excuse 'that some people are more advanced than others' If we are in relation to each other how that be true? Or are we, in our dream, just denying our advancement.

In being related means we all composed of the same stuff. Light and dense.

We all carry conditions, that are relative and relating to our existence. When we remove those conditions, because we are all related, we effect the human condition and the human potential begins to express itself. You can't have it both ways. You can't say we are all ONE but its someone elses fault that they world is in the condition it is in. We can only say in our Oneness, I might possibly be contributing to the bottle neck blocking what is coming in for us. Not from 'out there'. From inside.

Those conditions we carry and they are legion, are simply what the energy we are calling in has to work through.

Take Neptune for example. Do we have a condition in us that would not allow that flow of desired energy. Do we have a condition in us that movement of energy might amplify? If one is holding a lot of dreams and illusions Neptunes may amplify that...one may grow more lost in the dream it becomes realer to them. Or bring it down. The breaking of illusions. Let's be careful how attached we are to our illusions because the loss of them is painful when they are wrested away. When we give them up willing there is marked difference in how we are affected by the changes occuring. We can ride the bullet or we can get hit by it.

The choice is not imposed on us, its chosen by us.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Same old song and dance. For each person who wants to call out the injustice in the world there's someone who wants to dismiss them as ranter. So we become stalemated.

The human condition must first be addressed before the human potential can shine.

In your opinion ... how are we to address the human condition not only in the current context ... but going forward where possibilities are *perhaps* much more limitless???

[9eagle9]

Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Ernie Nemeth already sent a similar post. He also found that people got annoyed at him for his rants about the "injustice" of this world.

Thing is, for those of us who listen to these kinds of rants we end up confused, not knowing where to direct our sympathy, the children out there who are starving, or the ranter him/herself.

Loath as I am to dredge this up again ... pavlov's calz that I am ... tough love/mirrors/detachment ... ring a bell???

Where does detachment begin and compassion leave off???

Let us set aside distant land starving for a moment ...

Walking by a victim of a crime laying in the street looking up with pleading eyes for compassion ... how does detachment fit into that again??? Are we to smuggly assume there is a spiritual "lesson" going on there we must respect??? Walk on by ... don't worry you will understand it all with your life review.

Not trying to be snide and I ***really*** have no stomach for any more fighting.

I simply don't understand the disconnect there.

Clearly I am missing something.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Modwiz,

That image makes me so angry and so sad, unbelievable we have so little influence that these dehumanizing things still occur.

What makes me sad, is that we do have influence over things like this and instead invest most time in perfering not to speak of negative things.

That photo is demonstrates the bottom pyramid of a brainwashing hierarchy. When will we well fed people be there? We talk about the world ending, apocalypse vs 2012 and the light
coming. For that child the world has already ended not in a beam of light and lighttransmuted body. That is not a life. This is not a life we'd choose for our children is it? Or for ourselves. So what are we choosing?

That isn't a life that is vivid of a containment system. Forgotten farm animals starving in the cellar of the hierarchy.

When stop obsessing so much about what the world changes are going to do for us, what is in it for us, how it's going to affect us and start reflecting about what world changes are going to do for children like that...our influence will be known. That child is reflection of our spiritual poverty. Our disconnect from god.

Our brainswash down here on the street level is no different than the brainwashing that is intiated from the top of the pyramid. The thing is.... is ours so less extreme we have the power to get out from under it. And we choose not to. So what choice does it leave that child.

But...We are not yet that child, so by our choice we are the insturments that allowed that child to come to that condition. If we in the Oneness that everyone babbles on mindlessl about, than that child is surely us.

We are not sad and angry enough, there's not enough anger and sadness to correct what we see in that photo. And we not that our 'talking and thinking about love' has not yet created a space for it.

We're not even allowed in this brave new light world to become angry enough because it's not luv-n-lighty, and positive. All we have to do is correct our thinking in order to begin facilating a cure for what that child represents and will we do it? No. Those who even suggest it are shouted down.

That child is physical representation of our inner reality. There is no arguement that someone can make about dimensions, future times, or multiple exiistences or that something is coming to save us at some point in the future that excuses what those children are enduring now.

When people can muster enough self value to return to reality , photos like that will begin to disappear. That requires work on our part. However one chooses to intiate it.

I can commiserate with the photographer. I noted on a thread the other day to observe people consantly reinforcing their own brainwash is like watching a satanic ritual conducted a dozen times a day.

I could cry, I could scream, I could very come close to tipping over and running through people who perpetrate that ****, and the funnny thing is people get angry at me for even expressing annoyance at their brainwash the dream they are spinning that is holding them captive and resulting in that photo. That dream hasn't done a thing for that child, that should be the evidence. We think it's going to do something for us?

We are not sad nor angry enough to even fully understand the part that we all play in this awful neglectful charade.

9eagle, the one way I have dealt with knowing that child is one of 14,000 other beings who do not awake to another day is to honor all food I eat. That knowledge allows me to never be bored with food no matter how many times I eat the same thing day after day. Knowing about that child can allow me to enjoy a crust of dry bread as if it were the finest confection. I will bless a potato chip and I never use the starve word in a way that does not acknowledge the gut gnawing look in the face of death that it is. I have not yet figured out how to stop the crime of people starving, but I have figured out how to stop the shame of my relationship to food. Working this world takes some fancy inner dance steps, but we are all capable of them.

Our society and media work 24/7 to keep us from thinking about these people unless it is time to raise money to pay the salaries of those who run the big mega charities, as they put sugar water around the eyes of people to make sure that the flies will be there for the photos.

So as long as one person still dies for lack of food we need to always be thankful for ours, it does mitigate the helplessness of what could overwhelm us as conscious beings . Neuro-linguistics allow us to take a personal inventory.

Hear ye Hear ye!

And whats stopping a person from going to the places themselves and get down and dirty with it for as long as he or she is there. This is much easier then reflecting on the human condition, dont wait for it to be fixed but fix what is right in front of you at that particular time in space. Its energy and money well spent. This is easy, no saints needed, just you. Will change your perspective for sure. And theres plenty of us to go around too.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Clearly I am missing something.

My head hurts, I cant find it either, so.....







/me looks up difference between guiding and preaching

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?

Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

[1inMany]

Wow, I felt badly that I used a word inappropriately. I saw the error of my ways, and will be more careful. At this point, I really, really wish I hadn't said it for a completely different reason.

Do we really have to go through a public argument? Maybe someone wants to start a thread about whether or not we can or do effect change? Or possibly the children and families who do not have enough to eat? I might even be motivated to jump in with concern about children in this country.

Much Love,

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Wow, I felt badly that I used a word inappropriately. I saw the error of my ways, and will be more careful. At this point, I really, really wish I hadn't said it for a completely different reason.

Do we really have to go through a public argument? Maybe someone wants to start a thread about whether or not we can or do effect change? Or possibly the children and families who do not have enough to eat? I might even be motivated to jump in with concern about children in this country.

Much Love,

Dont feel bad, feel good, this is worth a lot, A LOT.

By helping kids and families in need locally yourself you dont have to wait for subsidies, government or whoever for that matter. Better yet, work you have done does not have to be done by someone else, this wil free some funds from your national budget to adress other problems locally, even better then this is these problems will eventually be fixed, even better better better yet is you will reach the point where the funds can be send overseas and can be used for real, take a holiday, toss some bags of rice around yourself, bring a hammer, buy some one legged kids some t shirts, shorts, flipflops and a shoeshinebox, you can create entrepeneurs yourselves, they will eat at night, their families too, its not that hard seriously

DONT FEEL BAD

[1inMany]

um, plumber? I was actually sharing my discomfort at the prospect of a debate/argument ensuing in the Village. But, yeah, I'm on the same wavelength...do what you can...I do, also.

Much Love,

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
um, plumber? I was actually sharing my discomfort at the prospect of a debate/argument ensuing in the Village. But, yeah, I'm on the same wavelength...do what you can...I do, also.

Much Love,

scuse me, language barrier i think, consider my words non spoken then.

Love back atcha

[1inMany]

Goodness, it isn't anything that needs to be scused I was just clarifying....trying to help.

[9eagle9]

And when other's laugh at you? Because you've created a opening for them to do so by labeling yourself as such? Not laugh with you, but at you? You are fortunate to not have people who make agreement with the label that you chosen to represent yourself. That's not really laughing at one's self, like "Ooops silly me I spilled my beer on my tax return." I can't see where it's even remotely funny for even a moment to refer to yourself as a Retard when I see the potential in people to be so much more. But that is where the trap is.

If you ever find yourself in the position of feeling stupid, or feeling lost, reflect on what labels we choose to have other's see us by. Because there's always someone out there willing to believe what you show to the world. And they will convince you of it as well.

This here is one of the conditions that I speak of.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?

Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

[1inMany]

Of course, we could always simply ditch that subject for another....