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    A petition at Change.org went up today asking the US Government to release the science and technology of electrogravitics to the public.

    I was the starter of this petition, and if bringing this effort for action here is unacceptable, I apologize in advance.

    The link is below:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/us-m...ectrogravitics

    Why This Is Important

    My early childhood was defined by My father's excitement for His work in electrogravitics, then (1950's) being worked on openly by all major aerospace companies. My father, a CalTech graduate and one of the top electrical engineers at one of these companies, would tell Me about the successes of His experiements (gravity control and overunity (free energy)), and tell Me what the world I would grow up in would look like.

    Cars would fly, cities would float, and We would have all the energy We could use.

    Then, one night He came home from work late and woke Me up to tell Me We couldn't talk about the flying cars, the floating cities, the free energy anymore. "They want it secret for now."

    Since My childhood, I have studied economics, coming to the conclusion (later confirmed by Jeremy Rifkin in His book, Entropy) that all money represented was meaningful energy expended. One can grasp this most easily by considering the first hunter, fisherperson, gatherer, farmer, miner. The stuff They gained/used was free: critters, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seed, sun, soil, rain, ores. It was the meaningful energy expended that gave "value" to the stuff: the killing, fishing, picking, tilling, weeding, harvesting, mining, transporting.

    Add abundantly what money represents - energy - and the need for money (and the control of others it affords) in all its forms (barter, trade, work exchange, coin, bills, electronic funds...) will dissipate and what is left is free.

    Add robots to do all the necessary jobs no One wants to do to free energy, and Humans will be freed to follow Their bliss - within the three Laws:

    Do not willfully hurt or kill another Being
    Do not willfully take or damage another Being's property
    Do not willfully defraud another Being

    (A Being (cap the "B") is sentient, sapient; animals are beings)

    Waste would be virtually eliminated: supermarkets presently throw out hundreds of thousands of tons of food a month! Distributing by need and not profit will end this waste. Products would be made to last instead of being designed to break so as to ensure future sales. Theft-protecting packaging would be unnecessary. And so on.

    Organic farming would be prized and GMO (genetically modified organisms) would be eliminated.

    Motive for war will be virtually eliminated. With no profit motive for war suppliers and "infrastructure rebuilders," wars will not be instigated to ensure profits.

    Poverty will not exist.

    Hunger will be eliminated.

    Education (at all levels) will be free for all.

    Replace the work "ethic" (a slave's ethic: enrich the rich with Your Human energy) with a Betterment Ethic and the Humans who better things will be paid in appreciation, status, name-recognition and Self-satisfaction, the new "coin."

    Create a central website where problems can be brought up locally and People can “vote” to bump a problem up, down, show apathy by not voting, and chime in with solutions (which can be cheered and booed). Issues will drop off after the original poster indicates that the problem has been resolved or withdrawn, or there has been no activity after, say, six months (that is not set in stone). Social responsibility will be defined as spending 15 minutes a day examining issues on this site.

    Also, issues with some set number of bumps up will be considered issues that need a wider awareness and go to regional sections. From there, continental, perhaps, and then global, as more are needed to be involved in solving the problem. Problems will beget the awareness to solve them.

    Without money as a motive, problems will be solved more creatively, directly, harmoniously, and within the three Laws.

    Leaders of the moment will emerge from this to solve problems as they arise.

    Open-source all public works programming. This allows for many to make suggestions for betterment, and ensures that no one will create outside the three Laws. It also eliminates “back doors,” and other surreptitious software segments that bog down the clean functioning of the program. Without money as a motive, programmers will be proud to offer Their work for scrutinization and use, openly and freely. Status will be gained for creating the best programs.

    Though this will not create a utopia, it will be vastly better than what We now have, in this scarcity-defined system, on this planet.
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    Default Re: Petition at Change.org...

    Good Stuff!! Well said!!

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    Asking for this is a futile attempt, it is the same as asking for disclosure. But a noble and necessary endeavor.
    The lies, the murders, the oppression, everything they have fought to gain, won't be given because we asked in a articulate way.
    They would rather destroy 3/4 of mankind before they release these technologies. It is a breakaway society and we aren't invited.
    Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed your post and signed the petition, and Tried to share it on Facebook (Blocked), but know the end result.
    At most, they might deny this old/new technology.
    Nothing short of a white hat insurrection will ever allow this to be possible. It's too deep, too black.
    Brings to mind a speech that Obama made about being on fossil fuels for the next 20 years.
    You could see in his eyes he is aware of these technologies, and they have no intention of sharing the wealth.
    Maybe with the 2012 thing...

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    Amaterasu-Welcome to Avalon and thank you for the petition. I signed it. Bodhii71-Maybe someone will call you a monkey for signing such a petition. May you be the Hundredth.

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    Quote Asking for this is a futile attempt, it is the same as asking for disclosure. But a noble and necessary endeavor.
    I figure if We get the information about electrogravitics to the tipping point, We WILL demand the technology and get the free energy...and bring this planet that much closer to some semblance of heaven - being as it is now rather hell.

    I am hoping it is not futile - I note I have eight (as of this writing) thanks and only six signers on the petition, one of whom is Me and another is a friend of Mine not affiliated here... Maybe You're right.

    Thanks for signing. [smile]

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    Thank You for the welcome, JRS. One sig closer to this taking off. [smile]

    EDIT to add: Please consider sending the link to Others. The more who know, the more who may sign.
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    @ Amaterasu. Welcome to the forum. Forgive me if my post seemed negative. Just an unbiased perspective.
    I agree with you whole heartedly. I dreamed the same dream, as a child even until now, that I would see such a future.
    It strongly resonates with me. I could only imagine how wonderful it must have been to have grown up in such a family hearing of such a future.
    What you are proposing is completely right. I desire that this grows exponentially!

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    Thank You, bodhii71. [smile] I wish I had grown up the whole time, not only hearing it but seeing it manifest. Sadly, I was about three when electrogravitics went into black ops (My memories start at age one...), and My father never spoke of His work again, after that night He told Me We couldn't talk about it anymore.

    The only time He came close was the first time I saw The Jetsons. My parents did not believe children should be raised with television, so We did not have one, but My cousin did. We were visiting My cousin and The Jetsons came on. I saw the "jet" packs - another thing My father described as something I would see. I claimed to My cousin that We could make those "now!" My father looked over and with a scowl said to Me, "Remember what We talked about...?"

    Thank You for Your supportive words!
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    Quote Posted by bodhii71 (here)
    Asking for this is a futile attempt, it is the same as asking for disclosure.
    It might be futile in so far as one might not expect the current bastards in power to simply grant the petition.

    But it might not be futile in so far as it helps increase the awareness of the rest of us ... thereby leading to a decline and fall of the current scarcity based empire.
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    Thank You, Paul!

    I surely hope I can whip up enough support to get the petition out there! You're right. They may not grant the petition, but We may get it out to the tipping point.
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    AnyOne else interested in this subject? I was hoping for more discussion.
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