Here and Now...What's Happening?

[1inMany]

Or, we could stay on the same subject.

Oh, if we allllllllll knew so much, what a different world it would be.

I have an idea. Let's have a round of what do I like about this Village? I'll start. I especially appreciate this Village as a place where we can each talk about internal and external personal workings, as opposed to a thread or other forums where there are personal attacks...or better yet, rather than personal attacks this Village is (usually) full of personal support for individuals and for the whole.

Thank you, and with Much Love,

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

I did not know that.

I know. I also note that people didn't raise such a kerfluffle about when Ishtar called herself out, they wanted to hide it. This is all about choice. Hiding the wounds instead of bringing them up to be healed.

modwiz and I both had posts removed by

we raised plenty of kerfluffle in case you missed it.

No one hid anything ... we had the platform to express ourselves removed in the pulling of a plug and carried it over here despite the consequences.

[1inMany]

Sorry to be out of the loop, but who is cow? That's a cow, right?

[Calz]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Sorry to be out of the loop, but who is cow? That's a cow, right?

Paul

Sorry ... I thought everyone knew that.

[1inMany]

Aw, hell, Calz, I know very little lmao....

[9eagle9]

You are not a shameful burden Cal, your friends would eject you in a heartbeat if they really seen that in you. They'd even intiate a protest in the opinions that were directed at you. But I know that people have to be shown not told, telling is just an opinion, being shown like certain matters you've recently brought up is painful.

It is painful to back the wrong horse based on opinions and we always feel stupid in the aftermath of those sorts of things. But it our choice. That is our power to know we can make another choice. That when we are responsbile with our choices that is where our power to influence our environment comes from. There's our power and we're just burying it in opinions.

We feel diminished but we trust in tellling and opionions more than what we know. Now you had something shown to you and you can feel safer in knowing.

But wouldn't a real friend feel conflicted when someone spoke of you in less than flattering terms when they knew the entire time what prompted those terms was how you were choosing projecting yourself? When they see so much more to you than that projection that 1) limits you--self limiting2) just sets the bait out for the ones who'd want to mock you.


Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.

We open our own doors to this.

We put far too much weight and importance on opinions, they are not who we are . Even the opinions of ourselves are waaaaaaay off track.

[Calz]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RRNTQvXSsfA

[ViralSpiral]

[ulli]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.

And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the

... and this would be your latest lesson in tough love ...

no my friends are not laughing at me directly ...

... but I am making all my friends suffer because they are being laughed at on my behalf???

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.


Hmmmm


Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???

Dearest Calz, you have shown your worth around here so many times
that I am inclined to say that you could never be replaced.
Even though you still have a few skeletons in your closet but...no problem.
Of course, I can't speak on behalf of the others, that would be presumptuous.

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)


Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.

Gosh ... you are clearly 10 dimensions and a few density levels "above" me to have caught that.

At what point shall I leave low level noise and repsond to "YES I am a shameful burden"???


You asked me a question (promptly ignored of course).


Why is it you are pouring "tough love" upon me???


Are you my GUARDIAN ANGEL???

My contact with the GFL???

Pray God not my Higher Self???


Fear not Villiagers ... we are simply trying to rectify and come to grips with some "stuff".

At least I think so ... but I do not consider myself above others so who am I to suggest???

[ulli]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)


Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.

Gosh ... you are clearly 10 dimensions and a few density levels "above" me to have caught that.

At what point shall I leave low level noise and repsond to "YES I am a shameful burden"???


You asked me a question (promptly ignored of course).


Why is it you are pouring "tough love" upon me???


Are you my GUARDIAN ANGEL???

My contact with the GFL???

Pray God not my Higher Self???


Fear not Villiagers ... we are simply trying to rectify and come to grips with some "stuff".

At least I think so ... but I do not consider myself above others so who am I to suggest???

You will sort it out. Me keeping respectful distance.

[9eagle9]

Because CAL, you ASKED me to.

My apologies for not seeing you as a shameful burden.

Let's take this out of the personal and talk about soemone who isn't here to defend themselves.

Beethoven.

In my opinion he was this deaf piano player.

My knowingness knows that he was a bit more than a deaf piano player if he could compose to something that no one else was able to sense and bring it out to be heard. Compose something that the allegedly hearing enabled couldn't it. I am completely hearing enabled and I can't play like that because I don't KNOW how. Could someone show me. Not if I refused it over and over again, even as i asked to be shown.

When people do nothing but talk about love, and where's love, and when is love coming, and someone answers the call .....if we don't want love stop asking, talking and obsessing about it! Love is love. There is really no such thing as tough love, that's a condition we are putting on it.

The only between You and Beethoven is that he didn't listen to opinions when they said a deaf piano player couldn't compose heavenly works of art.

He couldn't hear them.

[eaglespirit]

Ulli...I am glad that Your Husband is OK...had not read all the posts last time I posted.

I also hope that things can be somewhat brought to a better place personally with the person that caused disruption.

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Because CAL, you ASKED me to.

Getting old ... memory fading ... can you refresh me on where exactly I asked you for tough love???


(and I don't mean after "this" had started ... when I did indeed "ask")

Show me where I first gave you permission to do an eagle swoop.

Please.

[ViralSpiral]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XPqAcV_aJvg

[onawah]

Love you Calz!

I am seeing something here which I think I can discuss from the vantage of personal experience, and hopefully without putting too fine a point on it...
I think the Here and Now thread is the right place to post this, since there is so much genuine, friendly compassionate support here.

It has to do with the need to be right.

I came from a very dysfunctional family; alcoholic father, suicidal mother and siblings, chronic depression, etc.
One step I took, once I reached adulthood, in coming to grips with the psychological and emotional burden I had inherited was to study the dynamics of Co-dependence.
I even joined a group and found the mirroring that went on to be most instructive.
What I discovered is that children with a very dysfunctional family life, with all the variables and uncertainties that they have to deal with at a time when they most need security and stability, tend to have a very strong need to be right in their observations.

The feeling of "rightness" creates a certain kind of internal refuge to which they can retreat when things around them are crazy and nonsensical.
"If I can at least see things as they are, then I won't be overwhelmed and confused by the craziness. If I can be right in the face of so much wrongness, I can be safe."
But it can also become a kind of prison, and understanding and interacting with the inner worlds of others can become very difficult.

A certain amount of flexibility and permeability is necessary in order to interact and merge with others.
The walls of the self-created refuge don't allow for that, as safety is felt to be maintained by rigidity, solidness and impermeability.

This need can even manifest in physical symptoms such as tendonitis or TMJ resulting from clenched jaws, etc.
The prison is maintained well beyond any actual need for it, unless the prisoner realizes his/her predicament and learns how to emerge.
Working on connecting with the Wounded Child can be very powerful in this healing process.

Hoping this may be of some help...
Namaste

[9eagle9]

We call in what we are focusing on. When all we speak of is love and light and et al and et cetera it shows up. Our opinion of what we 'think' love is has nothing to do with it's actual expression. The universe makes no promises about where what we call in comes from, or the direction.

I used to think my friends were people just hung out with me and clucked and nodded at my opinions. My friends are actually the people who kicked me in the ass and didn't give up on me till I could see what they were seeing in me. How did I do that? I asked the universe to send me someone who could let me know what was wrong inside. Because no one would tell me for fear of disrupting the peace.

I have a great deal of experience being the person you are now Cal.....you have less experience being the person I am now.

[ulli]

Posted by eaglespirit (here)
Ulli...I am glad that Your Husband is OK...had not read all the posts last time I posted.

I also hope that things can be somewhat brought to a better place personally with the person that caused disruption.

This is of course my wish, too. One has to look at things in perspective, however, and see where the real progress lies.
As a foreigner I have had my share of shocks living here for 20 years...just seeing the way animals are treated.

Also the lack of fraternity between the sexes was a difficult one for me.
I have always had lots of male friends when living in England...alas, not here.
People immediately assume that one is having an affair.

I used to rant a lot-- my poor husband had to listen.
Stopped that finally, which is probably why I can't stand it when others are doing it. It is so futile.
Teaching can only be done by example...all other paths end with opposite results from those that were intended.

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

I have a great deal of experience being the person you are now Cal.....you have less experience being the person I am now.

Erm ... okay ... that denotes a great deal of authority without saying sh!t.

We talking a whole lotta past life or exactly what ... in terms we poor villagers can comprehend ... are you suggesting???

[1inMany]

9eagle9, if I may ask:

We call in what we are focusing on.

What are you focusing on?