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    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    I think its just part of planetary species evolution, FE has been suppressed of that there is no doubt but suppression has a shelf life IMO.
    Question is, is the shelf life based on our ability to use FE for benign purposes (meaning universal patterns)OR is it suppressed just from elite forces wanting to maintain control.

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    Hi Scott:

    Yes, it will not last forever. We will likely either destroy ourselves (Michael says that ensouled species with the ability to manipulate their environment do it a third of the time – while in their Young Soul phase, which we are in http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael ), or the upcoming upheaval will end the suppression:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#summary

    I vote for option 2.

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    I don't know if I've said this before or if others have. I think we all understand this at a visceral level at least.

    Capitalism is not about "money". Capitalism is about exploitation. That is what capitalism means, pure and simple - exploitation. That a word was borrowed that had a different meaning than as newly used is not that surprising, really, considering how TPW operate. Capitalism is about capitalizing on a resource, invention, idea, to the detriment of all others. The "secret" meaning of our underlying motivator, "capitalism", is how they creep into our minds and our hearts and veer us away from our "natural" tendancies.

    So, if you did not know until now, "Capitalism" equals "exploitation". Money is just a means to that end.
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    BTW, I never left. I meant to leave but I have nowhere to go.

    My life is just a waiting game now - waiting for others to catch up, or not. Either way, here I am, waiting.
    Patience I've learnt the hard way long ago. My patience now verges on, well..., if not hopelessness, I at least won't hold my breath.

    And I still maintain, that when people tire of exploiting their neighbors, getting one up on the Jones', becoming a millionaire in business or upon retirement, etc., then we can have a world of abundance overnite.

    With or without FE.
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    Hi:

    I have to run off to a long workweek in a few minutes, but wanted to write a little on the evolution of our perspectives. The few that I have met like me were all Boy Scout types, and we all believed the BS at first, probably because we needed to:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

    We all had our initial moment of truth where we saw through the lies or, more appropriately, had our noses rubbed in it, such as Ralph McGehee in Saigon:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon

    or Dennis in that bank lobby:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

    or me on the witness stand:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

    Of course, I had many moments of awakening before that one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#why

    and Ralph and Dennis had many more after their initial awakening. But, we were all still reluctant to accept what a benighted species we were members of. Our mantra was something like, “There has to be somebody out there who cares.” Dennis believed that the electric companies would welcome him in Seattle. Before Ventura, Dennis figured that justice could be found in America’s legal system if you pressed into it far enough. He went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, and found that the system was evil from one end to the other. Ralph still believes, I think, that if everybody had the chance to learn what he did, they would have. He is wrong, blessed man that he is. Most people do not want to know the truth. Their truth begins and ends at their belly, loins, and temporarily sating their addictions, which is why the bread-and-circuses trick always works.

    In Ventura, after I had witnessed about the tenth attempt to steal our company, I remarked to Dennis how shocking it was to see, and Dennis said that the first fifty times he saw it, he was shocked, too:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#shocked

    Everybody whom I know that has played at the high levels comes to the moment when they are disgusted with humanity. The ones still active overcame it, and that can only be done with love. It has not been an easy journey, by any means, and fools like me still look for those who care, and surprise of surprises, I seem to be finding some. What we may be able to accomplish is still an open question, but we will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Ernie:

    Ah yes, the patience game.

    Capitalism and money are effects of scarcity, not causes. Only abundance can make scarcity obsolete, and that has everything to do with energy. All dominant ideologies for all time have been exploitative, because they justified who got the chips in a world of scarcity. I don’t care if it was feudalism, organized religion, or other “primitive” ideologies, or more modern ones such as nationalism, capitalism, and scientism.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    In the end, they all exalted one group at the expense of others, because there was only so much to go around. All elites for all time have engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status. Long ago, it was harems, bejeweled crowns, palaces, spectacular grave goods, and the like. Now it is rocket rides into space (the most energy-intensive activity on Earth). When everybody has as much energy as they need to live a free and abundant life, then those games will cease.

    All the situations that you describe are conditioned by economic scarcity; they aren’t causes of it. There are “positive feedbacks,” but they are really ancillary to the engine that drives it all, which is energy and always has been.

    Slavery was considered “normal” only a few hundred years ago. Rising standards of living, due to harnessing greater amounts of energy, made the institution obsolete; abolitionist movements were an outgrowth of the economic situation, not the other way around. The bonobos are a great example of how greater energy security led to a different social organization that allowed them to be the first great ape to escape male domination as the primary social organizing principle.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

    Humans have not achieved it yet ( ), but industrialized societies have come the closest, because everybody rides on the backs of the “energy slaves” instead of human slaves. Energy is freedom, in its most real sense:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5

    The day that people can wake up and say, “I don’t need to eat anymore, I grew beyond that need,” then I will agree that the energy issue is not all that important to civilization. Until then, we are all greatly subject to our economic situation, which is based on energy. The exchange aspect of economics is relatively meaningless; it is the production aspect that sets the tune, not the exchange one. Our blinkered species tends to assume away the factors that it cannot seem to immediately impact, so the energy situation is ignored by the masses, but that is similar to that old metaphor of fighting over who gets the best berths on the Titanic. A civilization that is burning through its primary resource a million times as fast as it was created cannot be an abundant one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6

    It can be an exuberant one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

    until the resource runs out, but that is a far cry from abundance.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    This is kind of an addendum to the previous post. I was always the eager student, from the time I could walk. When I had my mystical awakening:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

    I became quite the spirituality initiate for the next eleven years before I met Dennis. I distinctly remember being fascinated with spiritual study, but I also remember asking myself what the practical importance of any of it was; it was not going to pay the bills. I now know that I was being prepared for my journey. But, really, the things that were important for my journey with Dennis were taught to me by age five:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

    The basics don’t change. But as I staggered out of Ventura, radicalized, I realized that everybody who failed the tests did not heed those lessons of decency that we are all taught when young. The so-called “heroes” were those who simply took those early lessons to heart. It was not so difficult to understand, conceptually. We overgrown Boy Scouts were all guilty of projecting our motivation onto others, thinking that they were similarly motivated. That was our folly. We eventually learned, however. More than twenty years ago, as I was reeling from the aftermath of the Ventura experience, I encountered this quote from Machiavelli:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    and it hit me right between the eyes. The sooner that people in this “cutting edge” field accept that nugget of wisdom from Mr. Realpolitik, the easier it will go for them. The masses are not going to wake up to FE and abundance until it is delivered to their homes. That is not to judge them; that is simply where they are. I am not trying to wake up my neighbors, family, or co-workers to FE. If people want to jeopardize their family relationships, friendships, and jobs/careers, then go for it, but I would not advise it. I am trying to do something very different. That choir that I am looking to form will not be found in any town or nation. There are simply vanishingly few people who can reach Level 12 these days:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    If enough Level 12s can be found, or can be taught to become Level 12s, then the Internet may be able to help amass a nugget that can focus its awareness. That is what I am trying to do. It might be a total failure, but I had to try it. I am not looking for FE tinkerers, FE activists, warriors who want to risk their lives engaging Godzilla, and so on. I am just looking for people who can lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    so that they can imagine abundance:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

    That may seem like a useless exercise, but I know that Godzilla has devoted prodigious resources to prevent people from even imagining the world that FE can bring about. If we can’t imagine it, we certainly can’t pursue it.

    Everybody like me had to find out the hard way about the receptivity amongst the masses to the FE and abundance message. What we found was that almost everybody who was awake in the slightest was busy hacking at a branch, and would not seek, or was incapable of seeking, the root. That is part of the conundrum, and it took people like me, Brian O, Dennis and the others like us many years to begin to see the picture. If everybody who saw the picture had to go through what we did, there would never be enough people on Earth at any one time who could see through the illusion and break on through to the other side. We would all be lone voices in the wilderness, finding out the truth so late in life that it did no good, other than to take some hard-earned knowledge to our graves.

    I am trying to help people reach a certain level of understanding without going through the FE meat grinder, because very few people can survive the experience. But the more people who can begin to understand how the land really lies, the better chance that that minefield will eventually be navigated. Lone rangers can’t do it, nor can a band of heroes, but a stampede of lambs might be able to. The end result may be a tasty plate of lamb chops, but I am doing what I can to avoid that outcome.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I have been chipping away at the work for my energy essay. In another little preview of the essay’s thrust, energy is always the central game for life on Earth. Acquiring, preserving, and using energy is the primary preoccupation of all life forms. I have been reading a lot of biology lately, and am finishing up Why Men Won’t Ask For Directions, and reading a lot about the interactions of genetics, environment, behavior, and evolution. It is always interesting, but from a mystically-awakened perspective, the materialism sometimes reeks in biological research. In most accounts, there will be at least some mention of how the animals studied are often killed and dissected. Some don’t really mention it, however, which really says a lot about the milieu. As Seth said, when a biologist kills a frog to find out how it lived, he ends knowing less of life when finished than before he began. Sometimes I will see accounts of how humanely the animals are killed for dissection, but the whole business is usually glossed over. Dark stuff, and the findings from such a system and worldview can be regressive in ways that such scientists cannot seem to fathom. Back in the 1990s, when I last looked into it, about 100 million animals were killed in American laboratories every year.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#vivisection

    It is currently heading more in this direction:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

    than it is this one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    I am sorry to say. In the coming weeks, I will make some posts of those negative visions on that thread that Robert began, to get that stuff out on the table to look at.

    Going to bed now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I need to make a post. In all likelihood, the people who really need to understand this post either can’t or refuse to, but it can be a shorthand for me, like the FE Levels:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    that I can refer to without repeating myself a thousand times.

    I am trying to help people let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    so that they can simply imagine what an abundance-based world can look like:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    That is really all that I am trying to do, and may be all that I will ever try to do with my public work.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine

    I am not interested in analyzing the efforts of the next FE aspirant who is playing the inventor/capitalist game, or people selling blueprints for making an FE machine in your garage with parts that you can buy at the hardware store (sometimes the scammers seem to have read my site to get their ideas http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#build), and I am not interested in the latest New Agey “message” from some alleged insider, or if Nibiru is on its way, what 2012 does or doesn’t mean, and so on. That is virtually all circus and distraction, and I have no interest in it. I don’t venture into other Avalon threads, except rarely, or participate much in other forums. This and its related threads are about the only current interactions that I am having with the public.

    I am also a semi-nerd hermit who works in a skyscraper, which is challenging for me. They know when to keep me in my cage and when to let me out to do my thing; it pays well and I have no interest in giving it up anytime soon. I am not interested in pressing the flesh with the public, going on tour, becoming a celebrity, etc. I am beginning to become famous, and I don’t really like it (it is also dangerous, in this field), but it seems to come with the territory. My message is about the message, not the messenger. My stories of my journey are primarily about what I learned on my journey, and how it led to where it did.

    People such as Dennis, Brian and others have played the man-of-the-people role, they were very good at it, and I supported them when they did, but I am retired from playing spear carrier. People are constantly pulling at me with their agenda, and they almost invariably try to get me to be something that I am not, or try to enlist my time and energy for their agenda. Well, I have my agenda, and I am doing my best to stay focused on it. I can only imagine what it would be like if I was not in this semi-cloistered environment that people like Bill and Ilie have so graciously created and maintain, and I look forward to when I get an invitation-only forum going. I hope to help that Level 12 choir form one day, but it is a long way off, it seems, which is great training for somebody with patience issues. History has never seen that choir, and it might be able to help get humanity over the hump. It seems like a worthwhile goal for me, and I am trying to do it in a way that I am not risking people’s lives. I already have enough blood on my hands, and have no desire to become a martyr.

    My closest cyberpals I have generally known since the 1990s and met before early 2002, back when I was more active on the public front (with my email address on my site, and weren’t those interesting times ), and I have yet to even speak with any of them, much less meet them (actually, I have met some, but either because we watched UFOs together or had similar shared experiences, or they came to meet me after long years of correspondence). Few of them are Americans; my work is far too injurious to America-centric delusions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

    I am going to be publishing an essay on energy and the human journey (this year I hope, but it will be challenging to accomplish), and it is intended for non-scientists to begin to understand the central role that energy plays, and has always played, in the human journey. It will be a comprehensive approach:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    When enough people can simply understand how the world really works, in a nuts-and-bolts way, then they may also come to appreciate what abundant clean energy can do to the human journey and life on Earth. If I can only help people to begin to understand that, that will plenty for me for this lifetime.

    People who are looking for heroes to support, or ramparts to scale, or FE tinkering to do, are advised to look elsewhere besides this thread and its cousins. It is a big world, and I wish them the best in finding what they are looking for; it just isn’t here.

    Enough said.

    Best,

    Wade
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    You are heard, indeed.

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    Hi Wade, I look forward to your energy and the human journey essay. ("I am attempting to develop a public discussion to help abundance-based paradigms take root in human awareness. If you can help advance that discussion, you are invited to assist. ")

    In reading the writings of ancient Zen masters, it seems some of the most powerful "shaping" that can be done (in someone willing to be shaped), is to provide a mental construct that destroys an erroneous way of thinking, rather than directly presenting a roadmap to a new way of thinking. Just exactly how that might help you, I don't know, but it popped into my head and my fingers decided to type it out.

    I can't guarantee I can break free from level 10 to 12, but I'll never try to BS you and say I have. In the meantime, I'm just glad you're here (here at Avalon, here on Earth), and I feel honored that you've opened up so much of yourself and your journey to share with me/us. You're a huge inspiration to me.

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    Default Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

    Here's a video documentary about FE. It outlines the history of FE and interviews a few of the many FE inventors showing some of their working devices. There is also some discussion towards the end about what FE can mean to the world. Adds a bit of color to the topics previously covered in this thread.

    It was released on VHS in 1997, and i see there's a DVD that was released in 2008. All the usual suspects are in there - Tom Bearden, John Hutchison, Joseph Newman, Troy Reed, Dennis Lee, Brian O' Leary, Eugene Mallove and a few others..........its a good accompaniment to the 'Thrive' movie:



    Here's the 'Thrive' movie for those who haven't seen it:

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    ...just chiming in in accord with Wade's thoughts and feelings:

    I firmly feel and believe the whole celebrity world of 'looking up to and over-venerating' is being 'uncreated' daily by the actions of each of Us doing what we are prompted to do in front of us on the 'working' turf of Mother Earth at the eye to eye levels of respect and of those of us marching to a different drummer and 'being' the change!

    The music of Love and Abundance IS taking hold...and each of You singing that tune in real time are the catalysts!

    Love! Love! Love!

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    Thanks all.

    Hi Dennis:

    Thanks for the advice. Most of my original site was written to cast the false idols off of their perches, such as American nationalism:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

    the Western Medical paradigm:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

    how the media deceives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm

    how the history we are taught is “bunk”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

    and so on. I am not sure if that is what the Zen dudes were thinking of, but when I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, I realized that almost nothing that I was taught was true. I also realized that people were easy prey on the FE front if they harbored the delusions of their conditioning. So, my first impetus for doing my site was casting out the lies, half-truths and false assumptions that are so counterproductive for making something like FE happen. Although I was radicalized by my days with Dennis,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

    I was not consciously being comprehensive with my approach, because I did not know what being comprehensive meant. I remember while doing the research, writing and editing for my site, asking myself periodically in the back of my mind, “So, what do I think I am doing?” I meant it in the way of, “What do I think that I am going to accomplish with this website?” I am still not sure.

    I have seen my work compared to Zen-ish stuff, where the first thing the students are taught is to unlearn what they think they know. I don’t know if that is an accurate comparison, but I was definitely doing my best to shake the foundations of certitude that people are indoctrination into, and as an American, I could write best about how it works in the USA. I came to discover that Americans are Earth’s most brainwashed people, and the ingenuity of the brainwashing is that the brainwashed deny that they are indoctrinated and controlled, but think that their nation invented the very idea of freedom. Pretty ironic stuff, but I was not aware of that angle when I began my research and writing. Early on, as I subscribed to Lies of Our Times:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot

    discovered Ralph McGehee:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

    Noam Chomsky:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky

    Ralph Hovnanian:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

    and others like them, I began to see the depths that Americans were indoctrinated into. I read constantly for six years before I began to write my first site, and I spent several years, full-time, after that doing the research and writing that became my site today. But even when I finished my 2002 site, I did not really know that there was a word for what I was doing, which was being a comprehensivist. It was not until I was introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work by one of his pupils:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    that the light bulb really went on for me, as far as what I had been doing for all of those years. All of my essays after then have been more consciously comprehensive:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/new.htm

    They have all been shorter essays. The way that I have seen it is that you can’t really see the FE and abundance picture while you are dragging around your scarcity-based baggage:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    and that took a long, long time to finally realize. And that was after the heartbreak of seeing more FE casualties:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    and some that I had a hand in:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    and trading notes with people such as Brian O, after years of him playing the Paul Revere of FE:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere

    and other experiences. It took a long time for the picture to become clear, and why FE has never gained any traction in the world, even though the technology has been around for longer than I have been alive:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    eventually made sense to me. In the end, it is pretty simple. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and the organized suppression and scarcity-based indoctrination, combined with humanity’s inertia, has so far proven to be an unbeatable combination.

    I have been doing plenty of study in anthropology and related topics, and it turns out that the ideological indoctrination that Americans receive is merely a more sophisticated and subtle version of what has been served to all "civilized" people for all time. It just became a science in the USA and other English-speaking nations, for various historical and economic reasons.

    On the FE front, people like Brian and I spent many years trying to interest environmentalists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose...ironmentalists

    progressives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

    and even the free software movement:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

    and in every single instance, nobody was home. Because of my longtime immersion in the mystical community, that was also someplace that I tried, and so have others, but it is another scarcity-dominated milieu, with virtually all the male “gurus” having New Age harems and the rest of that stuff:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

    and efforts such as The Secret became New Age bandwagons, to my dismay:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

    It was like what I eventually learned about inventors and other groups that I once looked up to: talent does not confer integrity, and integrity is the key to making FE and abundance happen. Everything else is secondary:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

    FE tinkerers are not going to do it, Indiana Jones types don’t have a prayer, business efforts are easily taken out, and so on. Dennis has proven especially difficult to kill, but it has taken its toll on how he goes about it anymore, which is partly why we eventually parted ways, although there is nobody in the field whom I respect more. He is by far the greatest human being that I ever encountered.

    So, after taking that long and winding road, I eventually arrived at where I am today. My basic understanding really has not changed much since my days in Ventura. Without the radicalization that those days provided, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. I had to get all the indoctrination blown away with what I survived, to really look at the world with clear eyes. Any human who has not had some kind of experience that showed them the paths beyond their conditioning (Michael calls it the false personality http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) is going to have a very difficult time even imagining FE and abundance. People who populate places such as Avalon have often had some kinds of experiences beyond the New Agey stuff that opened their eyes to the lies, which is partly why I fish here . But conspiracism is another pothole that swallows up countless aspirants:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

    Naïveté and paranoia are related. Structuralism and conspiracism are two sides of the same coin: they both operate from the victim’s perspective, and both have their seductions. They both have partial grips on the truth, but the greatest truth is that we all have a hand in creating the reality that we live in. And I don’t just mean it in Seth’s beautiful way:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth

    but also in the mundane way of how we live our lives each day. Everybody who lives in the industrialized world owns a piece of the American-inflicted genocides in Asia (with little buddies Britain, Australia and so on helping), as the West gains control of Middle East oil, including me:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility

    Until we own it, we cannot change it.

    Enough said.

    Thanks Tyler. I find it hard to watch that stuff anymore, but others can find it educational. It hits a little too close to home for me. I walked out of In the Name of the Father:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_...e_Father_(film)

    blubbering like a baby. Soldiers who have seen combat don’t like watching war movies very much. Bless those people who spent their lives on the FE front. Many were benevolently intended, at least somewhat, but they played a rigged game, and if Godzilla lets one of them through, it will be because Godzilla deemed it expedient to do so, not directly related to any virtues that the aspirant possessed. In fact, if The Muppet Movie ending seems like it is about to happen:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAK...eature=related

    people like me are going to be standing way back, with considerable skepticism that we are witnessing a genuine situation and not a contrived one.

    I have a long and busy weekend ahead me, including spending time with somebody from my FE past who wants some of my time and energy.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    Thanks all.

    Hi Dennis:

    Thanks for the advice. Actually, most of my original site was written to cast the false idols off of their perches, such as American nationalism:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

    the Western Medical paradigm:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

    how the media deceives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm

    how the history we are taught is “bunk”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

    and so on. I am not sure if that is what the Zen dudes were thinking of, but when I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, I realized that almost nothing that I was taught was true. I also realized that people were easy prey on the FE front if they harbored the delusions of their conditioning. So, my first impetus for doing my site was casting out the lies, half-truths and false assumptions that are so counterproductive for making something like FE happen. Although I was radicalized by my days with Dennis,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

    I was not consciously being comprehensive in my approach, because I did not know what being comprehensive meant. I remember while doing the research, writing and editing for my site, asking myself periodically in the back of my mind, “So, what do I think I am doing?” I meant it in the way of, “What do I think that I am going to accomplish with this website?” I am still not sure.

    I have seen my work compared to Zen-ish stuff, where the first thing the students are taught is to unlearn what they think they know. I don’t know if that is an accurate comparison, but I was definitely doing my best to shake the foundations of certitude that people are indoctrination into, and as an American, I could write best about how it works in the USA. I came to discover that Americans are Earth’s most brainwashed people, and the ingenuity of the brainwashing is that the brainwashed deny that they are indoctrinated and controlled, but think that their nation invented the very idea of freedom. Pretty ironic stuff, but I was not aware of that angle when I began my research and writing. Early on, as I subscribed to Lies of Our Times:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot

    discovered Ralph McGehee:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

    Noam Chomsky:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky

    Ralph Hovnanian:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

    and others like them, I began to see the depths that Americans were indoctrinated into. I read constantly for six years before I began to write my first site, and I spent several years, full-time, after that doing the research and writing that became my site today. But even when I finished my 2002 site, I did not really know that there was a word for what I was doing, which was being a comprehensivist. It was not until I was introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work by one of his pupils:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    that the light bulb really went on for me, as far as what I had been doing for all of those years. All of my essays after then have been more consciously comprehensive:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/new.htm

    They have all been shorter essays. The way that I have seen it is that you can’t really see the FE and abundance picture while you are dragging around your scarcity-based baggage:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    and that took a long, long time to finally realize. And that was after the heartbreak of seeing more FE casualties:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    and some that I had a hand in:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    and trading notes with people such as Brian O, after years of him playing the Paul Revere of FE:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere

    and other experiences. It took a long time for the picture to become clear, and why FE has never gained any traction in the world, even though the technology has been around for longer than I have been alive:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    eventually made sense to me. In the end, it is pretty simple. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and the organized suppression and scarcity-based indoctrination, combined with humanity’s inertia, has so far proven to be an unbeatable combination.

    I have been doing plenty of study in anthropology and related topics, and it turns out that the ideological indoctrination that Americans receive is merely a more sophisticated and subtle version of what has been served to all "civilized" people for all time. It just became a science in the USA and other English-speaking nations, for various historical and economic reasons.

    On the FE front, people like Brian and I spent many years trying to interest environmentalists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose...ironmentalists

    progressives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

    and even the free software movement:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

    and in every single instance, nobody was home. Because of my longtime immersion in the mystical community, that was also someplace that I tried, and so have others, but it is another scarcity-dominated milieu, with virtually all the male “gurus” having New Age harems and the rest of that stuff:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

    and efforts such as The Secret became New Age bandwagons, to my dismay:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

    It was like what I eventually learned about inventors and other groups that I once looked up to: talent does not confer integrity, and integrity is the key to making FE and abundance happen. Everything else is secondary:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

    FE tinkerers are not going to do it, Indiana Jones types don’t have a prayer, business efforts are easily taken out, and so on. Dennis has proven especially difficult to kill, but it has taken its toll on how he goes about it anymore, which is partly why we eventually parted ways, although there is nobody in the field whom I respect more. He is by far the greatest human being that I ever encountered.

    So, after taking that long and winding road, I eventually arrived at where I am today. My basic understanding really has not changed much since my days in Ventura. Without the radicalization that those days provided, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. I had to get all the indoctrination blown away with what I survived, to really look at the world with clear eyes. Any human who has not had some kind of experience that showed them the paths beyond their conditioning (Michael calls it the false personality http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) is going to have a very difficult time even imagining FE and abundance. People who populate places such as Avalon have often had some kinds of experiences beyond the New Agey stuff that opened their eyes to the lies, which is partly why I fish here . But conspiracism is another pothole that swallows up countless aspirants:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

    Naïveté and paranoia are related. Structuralism and conspiracism are two sides of the same coin: they both operate from the victim’s perspective, and both have their seductions. They both have partial grips on the truth, but the greatest truth is that we all have a hand in creating the reality that we live in. And I don’t just mean it in Seth’s beautiful way:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth

    but also in the mundane way of how we live our lives each day. Everybody who lives in the industrialized world owns a piece of the American-inflicted genocides in Asia (with little buddies Britain, Australia and so on helping), as the West gains control of Middle East oil, including me:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility

    Until we own it, we cannot change it.

    Enough said.

    Thanks Tyler. I find it hard to watch that stuff anymore, but others can find it educational. It hits a little too close to home for me. I walked out of In the Name of the Father:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_...e_Father_(film)

    blubbering like a baby. Soldiers who have seen combat don’t like watching war movies very much. Bless those people who spent their lives on the FE front. Many were benevolently intended, at least somewhat, but they played a rigged game, and if Godzilla lets one of them through, it will be because Godzilla deemed it expedient to do so, not directly related to any virtues that the aspirant possessed. In fact, if The Muppet Movie ending seems like it is about to happen:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAK...eature=related

    people like me are going to be standing way back, with considerable skepticism that we are witnessing a genuine situation and not a contrived one.

    I have a long and busy weekend ahead me, including spending time with somebody from my FE past who wants some of my time and energy.

    Best,

    Wade
    Wade, I was astounded last year when I found your site. I was long tired of the conspiracy sites (those small crumbs of truth connecting a dot here and there), and I found your essays riveting. I read them for weeks in my spare time, some twice and thrice. Being a glutton for information (many years ago my dad came back from a year in Vietnam working in "treaty administration" and told me to never believe in the official report regarding almost anything), I really appreciate the depth of research that has gone into your essays.

    I was able to spend a year out of North America as a young adult, and it was like being on a different planet. Several different ones.

    I experienced more of the Unlearning process when I decided to home school my child for a while, after a death threat was delivered at public school. The school admins wouldn't deal with it so we said goodbye to the system. Mixing with experienced home schooling parents was a real eye opener. My child decided to go back to school, and later was able to self-educate in a very technical field. My family stopped vaccinating many years ago and my child has never had one.

    I used to get teased when I put the grey-looking nitrate free hot dogs on the table "mom, you're one of those they are going to put into the camps.."

    My child called us on "the rich end of poor" and as a child does, felt left out of a lot of stuff his affluent friends were doing/having. I would say let's turn on the international news and see what the 12 year olds are doing in the Congo today...mining diamonds?" I still am on the rich end of poor for a North American but I feel like I'm in the lap of luxury whenever I turn on the tap and hot water comes out. I take a moment every day to throw out a vision of every single person having that, and much more. I borrow the visions posted on PA, I mix and match them and throw in my own stuff.

    I rarely feel like I have anything to add, and I squirm while talking about myself. I have said anything possibly relevant to who I am and why I'm here, so whew don't have to do that again...

    I appreciate your, and everyone's inspiration I receive from reading here almost every day. Regards all.

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    Wade, I have thanked the post above without (yet) taking the time to read, (or in most cases re-read) all of the sections from your site that you refer out to. It's amazing that you can keep track of where all the info is, so you can link to it. :~) I'll go through it more slowly, taking the time to absorb the essay segments as part of your reply.

    I think I may have been self-reflecting just why I have not yet been able to discard the Level 10 mentality, and join the Level 12 chorus full-time (rather than touch my toe in that water - if I have actually ever even done that.) Maybe it is your inadvertent Zen Master protocol and style that attracted me to your writings in the first place.

    Yes, I can see that you have indeed disrobed many an emperor, you have lifted many veils, and you have torn through many curtains in your writings. But, I'm still not convinced that The Global rulers give a rat's ass if 20 or 2000 or 20 million people can visualize abundance and fully see the scarcity paradigm for what it is: a greed-driven work of fiction. If them caring or not caring is not the point, but rather the synergistic effect of a metaphysical chorus of abundance-visualizers, well... I'm still quite stumbling around with what it actually takes for a group of beings to unite and cause/create/catalyze physical outcomes from metaphysical output. I'm open to it, I have started one and joined a few efforts along those lines, but I feel like an infant that wants to do an Olympic gymnast's tumbling run rather than just walk.

    Undoubtedly, I am missing the point, but only by putting all of my cards on the table, being as honest as possible, and letting you know what my difficulties are will I be giving you the insight needed to help me break through.

    Enjoy your time with your friend, and maybe we can revisit this in the next week or two.

    Thanks!

    Dennis


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    Hi Dennis:

    I am very sympathetic to skepticism directed toward the Level 12 approach, because it has never been tried before.

    On the Level 10 approach, I have been involved with several Level 10 FE efforts. Dennis tried the capitalist, religionist, and nationalist avenues, sometimes separately, but sometimes they were combinations of all three. I helped rebuild the efforts three times, and sprung him from jail another time, and did not help him rebuilt after springing him that time. I was spitting out my teeth for several years after that one. Mr. Professor did, however, and it ended up costing him his life:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    Dennis also tried the non-profit approach, but that was always a non-starter. NEM was another non-profit effort that I helped get off the ground with Brian O, but it never really had a prayer, and it was an eye-opener to me on a few levels. That was the last Level 10 FE project that I was involved with. I have also been in several peace marches, and actually marched with the former Washington governor in a huge peace march to forgive third-world debt on the eve of the infamous WTO meeting in Seattle in 1999.

    I don’t have the time today to write about it, but I will put it on my list of things to do, to write about the Level 10 approach with FE. All the "mass movement" efforts I have seen were based around some scarcity-based ideology, or attacking them, like the Occupy Movement is doing, beginning on Wall Street. I get the sentiment, but “protesting” automatically puts the protestor in a polarized position, usually against the “powerful,” and the protestors are always easily scattered and distracted by the circus, and they are playing the vicitm game, with their complaint-based approach. They don’t think comprehensively, and every movement like that that I have seen is hacking at branches and is oblivious to the root. That will be a big post, on the Level 10 approaches that I have been involved with and witnessed.

    Hi CdnSirian:

    Call me surprised to find out that you are female. There are not nearly enough women involved in the FE-related activities, and that is part of the problem. Please keep your awareness in the game; it is needed.

    Running off to find a place to live…

    Best,

    Wade
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    That's funny Wade, if you'd called yourself USSirian/Pleiadian/Orian/Terran/Whatever, I may have not concluded that you were male. Hey we're just humble humans - eh? Highest regards.

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    Hi Wade, to be honest, I have a relatively easy time understanding how you feel the level 10 approach won't work - after all you've been through; may I ask for a bigger dose of your feelings/thoughts on why (and the specific mechanism for) a Level 12 approach feels like it could work. Perhaps compare and contrast your Level 12 idea with the metaphysical manifestation of what we want concept in "The Secret."

    OK, seriously, I don't want to drag you back to your keyboard when you have things you need to do. Let's talk later. :~)

    Dennis


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    Dennis, I don't think you're missing any point. I think you really get it. You are honest about where you're at with this, and I appreciate that.

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