Alex Collier on Unicus Radio, Jan. 5, 2012

[ponda]

Great stuff watchZEITGEISTnow.Much appreciated.Got them downloaded.

Should be interesting to listen to these again after what has transpired.

cheers

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by jcocks (here)
Well that does it for me. The Andromedans are for real and Alex's message(s) are legit.

Still, Rob should post a short statement on his site to let people know what's happening... People *ARE* going to ask questions because we really do care about Alex. He is one of the very few contactees who have given me "knowing" tingles.....

I know in the other thread in the UFO's Section, the last 'group' Email RS sent to us is there with two different email contacts for Alex Collier, but I agree it would be nice if RS would post some sort of statement even if he can't say "do to insane threats by CIA pigs." he could say "Do to circumstances beyond my control, I have removed all radio interviews with Alex Collier." Just something from him would be nice. I think this is a good reason though why some of us that are contactees don't come forward or at least in the public sense, it's not that we are worried or bothered about the public's reaction, more that we just don't want to put our lives at risk or be constantly harassed by Little Fishes.

[jcocks]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Just something from him would be nice. I think this is a good reason though why some of us that are contactees don't come forward or at least in the public sense, it's not that we are worried or bothered about the public's reaction, more that we just don't want to put our lives at risk or be constantly harassed by Little Fishes.

Fair enough, it's just a pity that he's not a stronger person. But, most of us would react the same way if we were threatened. Personally, I am now at a point where I know I am more than my physical body, that I live on after death, and that the spiritual reality is much greater - so I no longer have such an attachment to my physical vehicle. Evidently he does.

He's broken off all contact with the alternative media and public before.... Looks like he's done it again. Never mind, we can all have personal contact with the andromedans if we so desire it - though we may not all remember this contact. We're at the point in our evolution where it is possible, and they WANT us to connect with them so we can subvert the PTB together.

[Etherios]

i just got a virus from http://www.filedropper.com/alexcolli...january6of2012
.....

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by jcocks (here)
Fair enough, it's just a pity that he's not a stronger person. But, most of us would react the same way if we were threatened. Personally, I am now at a point where I know I am more than my physical body, that I live on after death, and that the spiritual reality is much greater - so I no longer have such an attachment to my physical vehicle. Evidently he does.

He's broken off all contact with the alternative media and public before.... Looks like he's done it again. Never mind, we can all have personal contact with the andromedans if we so desire it - though we may not all remember this contact. We're at the point in our evolution where it is possible, and they WANT us to connect with them so we can subvert the PTB together.

I agree, though I don't think it's a lack of strength. It's more a strong sense of self preservation, and lack of protection until someone tells those little fishes to back off. I remember when I was doing psychic detective work, and worked on many missing children cases, got to close on to many Secret Government Kidnappings (not to derail this thread, just pointing something out), and for my own life literally had to give that up all together. And, you're right. We're more than at a point now to contact them on our own. I've been in contact with a couple of ET's myself for 27yrs. It was explained to me that once Terrans move past the "I can't do this" and turn it into "I can do this" as you have, that contact is very easy.

[Snowbird]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

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Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Just a theory. Unless someone , threatened Robert Stanley. Why else would he remove all evidence of their connection etc? Specially so abruptly. I don't think he would cave so quickly to CIA/Spook pressures.

I don't think that they had a falling out. But I do think that R. S. was threatened and that he did what he knew would protect all concerned.

Yeah, but one would think his posting of UFO pictures around the White House and Capital would gain more threats than an Alien Contactee spouting off about random bits of information. I personally can't remember any of what was covered in those 'interviews' that would be remotely "damaging" to the PTW plots.

Well, but when you consider those White House pictures doubled with the random bits of information and the fact that these two have been decades-long friends, I can understand how the threat would reach out to each/both. Had you heard about the Pacific plates cracking or being cracked prior to AC mentioning it? I hadn't. I had heard about the horrendous possibility of Japan. It is possible that AC mentioning these possible PTW plots has curtailed or outright canceled those possible plots....let's hope.

[DreamsInDigital]

The Pacific Plate as well as the rest of the crust shifting/stretching was briefly mentioned to me by my contacts, but it's not of their direct interest/involvement/mission. So it was an off hand kind of thing, as I had wondered about all the earthquakes. But, beyond that AC was definitely the first otherwise that I had heard of it. And, he was certainly more detailed about it, yet didn't tie into it being PTW related. And, as Japan, et al stands I don't feel really that we have much of anything to worry about at this point. I've seen some of the latest damage that has been done to the PTW and their shennanagens (sp?) I fear nothing from that situation.

[Makoto]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
@ Benny
No one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Even my best advice is only coming from experience etc and what my feelings are, and what knowledge I carry. And, I can say we are going to experience a lot of changes this year. Some are going to be bad, some are going to be positive and some middle of the road. Even, what Alex Collier has laid out in his past two interviews on RS's show has been primarily what he's been saying all along. No one is going to come down and save our asses, we have to be our own saviors. Learn to respect our selves and eachother, etc. That things are eventually going to get better, but the fight isn't over yet. Which it's not. I strongly suggest you and others listen to the past two interviews he's done on RS's Blog Talk Radio. Taurean was kind and generous enough to post one of them. The other is available on RS's Unicusmagazine site. I have to say it's one of the reasons I've respected Alex Collier all along, he doesn't toss out all this "love and light" stuff, he sticks very much in reality and very middle of the road. And, he's never claimed to in anyway know 100% of everything, but shares with us what he does know. Plus he doesn't give out predictions, only Probabilities and Possibilities, with the hope that we are all capable of understanding one of the most basic laws of the Universe "Things Change." He's never claimed to be a prophet and never turned this into a money making adventure. That's Integrity.

@ Schneider

I agree! I hope Tolec and Alex get the opportunity to talk more again this time. It's so interesting listening to two different Andromedan Council contactees. I would love to see them doing more together in the future. It's always interesting listening to them compare notes from their different contacts. I hope some people from the boards here call into the show tonight and ask some interesting questions, really get those boys talking.

Alex said his Et group is 5th dimension based and Tolek ( I know that who is regular in UFO local group there and many predictions he boasted did not come true)’s is 3rd dimension base totally different group. According to Alex on the Rob’s redio show. Also Alex said the how tolek describe what happened to underground base is not accurate…basically not true

[DreamsInDigital]

Yes, I think we had that one already figured out and discussed , and actually Tolec's group is 4D. Not 3D.

[jcocks]

Well, I just got a reply from Robert....Wow is all I can say. I won't post what I got back from Rob publically (as Rob also said, I refuse to air his dirty laundry), but am happy to share it via PM if you want to have a read.

However, due to my personal beliefs and inner voice, I still believe the Andromedans exist and that Alex's testimony is largely true. However, I'd be very wary about donating money to the guy until he is willing to come clean to everyone about who he is and what he has done. I might yet do some more research on Alex to make my own mind up as to whether he was "framed" or not - as I know a lot of contactees do have that done to them.....

Hmm... it has given me pause to think, that is for sure...

[DreamsInDigital]

Certainly I would appreciate if you would send me in a PM what you got back. I can say I know the Andromedans are real/exist if only for my own contacts with the Tau Ceti, they've verified for me that Moraney and Vasaias are real (well Vasaias passed away almost 12yrs ago now) and that for the most part that Alex Collier is a real contactee. Best I can suggest in your research, just check where your resources are you're getting information from. Michael Horn unleashed a nasty unprovoked attack campaign against Alex, and from what I've seen of those that have taken up the train most of what they sling at him comes back to being from/originating with Michael Horn and that guy can not be trusted, also he admitted to putting up false information/lying about Alex and also lying about other stuff. But, that's one whole huge can of worms I'm not getting into, my attention is not needed buried in an Michael Horn / Billy Meier vs' Alex Collier debate.

[nomadguy]

has anyone ever heard of Joan Hope?
http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/

to note,


http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/ufos...erswebsite.htm

[apokalypse]

Michael Horn/Billy vs Alex Collier all over again. so lets start...

[jcocks]

Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?

[ponda]

Posted by jcocks (here)
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?

I wouldn't be surprised if Alex has some information that 'they' don't want to be released

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

scroll down a bit to Updated 2009 July 15:
An Open Letter from Alex Collier

Can I see the email please jcocks?

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Here it is watchZEITGEISTnow:



Updated 2009 July 15:
An Open Letter from Alex Collier

July 14, 2009

As many of you are aware, I am being bitterly attacked from the Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn. I am being addressed as a liar and a fraud. Apparently, because I changed my name and at most times in my life during on going contacts, I chose to not share this reality with people who were acquaintances. Why would I? You also need to know that I have addressed this issue publicly in earlier lectures years ago. But maybe it’s necessary to deal with it for the last time.

In the early 90's when I came forward, the talks were very small. More like living room chats, just a hand full of people. I stopped speaking in 2002. After being addressed in front of my mailbox by three well dressed men that were part of a "Program", I was told to "Shut the f*#@ up". I was then told that friends were going to be hurt if I did not shut up. The names were given to me. They were not kidding and it wasn't a joke. They were going to kill friends and family members.

Fast forward the internet. I had no idea that the information would go where it has. In 1990 when Morenay had asked me to speak and share "some of my experiences" I reluctantly said yes. I spoke to my Dad regarding this. My dad had an experience of my contacts when we lived in upper state NY. We spoke of it that morning and as my Dad was a strong catholic, his questions were very direct. I felt that if I was going to speak he needed to know. Dad was afraid of what would not only happen to me but our family. My brothers and sisters, and himself by government and religious harassment, etc.... We spoke about using another name to share the information in some way to protect my family.

At times in my life while contacts were on going it has been very difficult and hard to share it. I had a head full of knowledge, and experiences but could not share it. I was told that at those times there was no one I could truly trust. When I did not listen to the “Andromedans”, they would prove to be right. Supposed friends betrayed and stole from me. Enough said about that.

I have shared the information that I was asked to. I don't sell anything. I was told by the Andromedans not to make a business of this in any way. And so I haven't. I have tried very hard to keep a low profile and protect my family from hurt and prejudice, by those who don't give a damn about my family. All they want is to keep their name in lights and beat their chest, by declaring they have the secret and they are the only ones with the truth. That Mr. Billy Meier is the only contactee in the entire world. That’s the lie, Ladies and Gentlemen. Billy is not and nor has he ever been the only one.

I am very saddened that many researchers and authors who have found their own evidence to collaborate information shared by the Andromedans and other races are now being attacked for it. They are also accused of being involved in and perpetrating a fraud. Dr Salla, Paola Harris, and Col.Wendelle Stevens to just name a few. They have tirelessly dedicated themselves to helping humanity. Mr. Horn’s accusations are despicable.

Paola Harris is one of the most honest and sincere persons on earth, whose integrity is beyond reproach. It’s disgusting that she should continue to be abused and harassed by this man only because she interviewed me. She was simply doing her job in the most objective way.

Dr. Salla's efforts to help bring humanity together and see the bigger picture will have a profound effect on humanity in a positive way for decades. And I also feel that Dr Salla's honesty is beyond reproach.

Col. Stevens, whom I met for the first time in Japan, is a real gentleman. He has tirelessly researched contactees for 50 years. His should be the only voice any of us listen to regarding who is a real contactee or not. And his work is probably the largest single contribution to humanity regarding Exopolitics. Point of fact.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I frankly at this point don't care if any of you believe or not. All the research, all of the sacrifices everyone in this field has made and will make is due to endless hours of lost family time, as well as the loss of family and peace of mind. And of course the ridicule from others, who have no clue how huge and important this subject really is. This has been and was done for humanity. This is for us as a race to have a new perspective, a new place to start when the lies of our false history collapse under the weight of truth, that we are not alone and have never been; a revelation that we are so much more than we have been told.

The “lie” is that Billy Meier is the only contactee. And if the "Pleiadians" (excuse me) "The Plejarians" (they changed their name, too), told Billy he was the only one, then they have lied. You must keep this in prospective also as well. There are in fact many contactees in the world. I have been told that there are at least 1,407 at this present moment. You may be one of them yourself. I think we should continue to move forward and help humanity achieve its potential.

Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.

I feel it’s necessary to add this last clarification for you. I have no vested interest in this information. And as such I really could care less what anyone thinks. My intention was to share the information and give a different prospective. I have had a lot of growth to go through and am now the father of five. I must put the welfare of my family first and move beyond this sideshow with FIGU/Michael Horn.

I am done with this. Think what you will, but please keep your minds open. It’s the only way your life will work…

Respectfully,
Alex Collier

[jcocks]

Here's the reply I got from Rob yesterday, make of it what you will....

In any case, it's old info...so I believe that Alex should be given the chance to respond, clear the ar, and get on with communicating with those who will hear him. He certainly comes across to me as very sincere...

=====

2/2/2012
To whom it may concern,
I had a heated exchange with Alex/Ralph on the phone this afternoon (1/30/2012).
He is very upset with me right now for calling his bluff, and he is still claiming to be an innocent victim in this matter despite the data I have acquired about his. You see, I met Michael Horn at the trailer Ralph Amigron's (aka Alex Collier) was renting in Malibu in 1986. Michael Horn is not making the information in this article up. I know for a fact that "Alex" is actually Ralph:
http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash5/TH...ER_%20HOAX.htm

Here are Court Documents indicting Ralph Amigron/Alex Collier on felony charges:
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/sta...#ixzz1klv9blj7
C. Mr. Amigron's Arrest
On May 3, 1991, Mr. Amigron was arrested in California by inspectors of respondent's Internal Security Division in connection with a 4-count felony indictment handed down by a Federal grand jury. The indictment alleged that Mr. Amigron, a former IRS revenue officer, falsely claimed to be a certified public accountant, and an enrolled actuary, and that he knowingly used false Social Security numbers on tax documents. 8

Here is the release record for Ralph Amigron from Federal Prison (his age is entered incorrectly either intentionally or accidentally on this form):

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinde...Age=&x=70&y=13

Here is another personal account re. Ralph changing his name to Alex, using a fake accent, and fabricating information:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110118...blog/497592416

In summary, Alex is still Ralph who is a convicted felon and con artist. That is the real reason why he can’t find steady work.

In 1991, he changed his name after being released from federal prison and then began lecturing about alleged alien contact.

I forgive him for his deeds, but I will never forget or condone his behavior.

Unfortunately, Alex/Ralph still thinks/claims he is a victim.

However, facts are facts. Ralph/Alex was indicted on 4-felony counts.

He claims he was framed by the IRS, but he has no proof of that.

And as for his claims about the "Andromedan's" he has no proof of that either.

All we can do is take his word for it. But to most sane people, the word of a convicted felon is worthless.

I believe Alex/Ralph should be grateful that I chose not to publicly air all his dirty laundry when I finally figured out who he really was, and what he was doing, and pulled the plug on his latest scam – the “Aid to Alex” campaign.

Respectfully,

Robert M. Stanley

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by jcocks (here)
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?

His contact email information is available in the other Alex Collier thread "Alex Collier Needs Our Help."

And, just for the record. I'm staying out of this Mud Slinging Match. But, it's a great example of part of the reason why a lot of us contactees keep our mouths shut.

[apokalypse]

i wonder have Robert Stanley fully investigate on Alex Collier?is guess not, it's damn strange that Robert bring back old case of Micheal Horn/Billy vs Alex Collier after 3 interviews as if is something new.