100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

[RMorgan]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Hi Stan,

I´m so sorry my friend if I offended you and other people here on PA.

You know, I´m pretty good with English, but it´s not my mother tongue and, sometimes, as hard as I try to be very delicate, specially while speaking about such controversial matters, I can´t translate my feelings accurately using this language. I´m much much better with Portuguese.

I´m far from perfect. I´ve made many mistakes during my short life and I believe I´ll still make mistakes in the future...And yes, I was fooled a couple of times in my life as well.

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

This is my point of view and my opinion only. Some things are difficult to be said. When you have a hard thing to say, it´s equally hard to soften it with words.

Again, I sincerely apologize if I´ve offended anyone. Stan, I consider you the be a very valuable member of this forum and I respect your opinion very much.

My kindest regards,

Raf.

[OnyxKnight]

That guy on GLP is fake. He, nor anyone else, went on any trip anywhere. Maybe a fantasy ride, but that's a different kind of trip.

[aranuk]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Hi Stan,

I´m so sorry my friend if I offended you and other people here on PA.

You know, I´m pretty good with English, but it´s not my mother tongue and, sometimes, as hard as I try to be very delicate, specially while speaking about such controversial matters, I can´t translate my feelings accurately using this language. I´m much much better with Portuguese.

I´m far from perfect. I´ve made many mistakes during my short life and I believe I´ll still make mistakes in the future...And yes, I was fooled a couple of times in my life as well.

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

This is my point of view and my opinion only. Some things are difficult to be said. When you have a hard thing to say, it´s equally hard to soften it with words.

Again, I sincerely apologize if I´ve offended anyone. Stan, I consider you the be a very valuable member of this forum and I respect your opinion very much.

My kindest regards,

Raf.

Thank you Raf you sound more like the Raf we all know and love here. The black limo description by Linda was cleared up with the latest chanelling and she used another metaphor saying space bike instead. Steve Beckow picked that up and asked her not to play with us with these kind of metaphors. She then appologised and said we will beam some up and send small space vehicles to pick others up. From my side I think and feel that the mis-channelled information was wrongly interpretated by her and I think that I would not trust that source for sound believability. AI maybe. I do channel myself and realise how difficult it is sometimes to put into words. In my own case I chanelled 16 childrens stories in one month in 1998 and have one book published. It can be bought in Amazon.com

Stan

[noprophet]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
That guy on GLP is fake. He, nor anyone else, went on any trip anywhere. Maybe a fantasy ride, but that's a different kind of trip.

I'm fairly sure this could all be a bit of fun but you seem rather certain. It that information or opinion based?

I would be surprised of one being so quick to judge who claims such unbelievable experiences.

[RMorgan]

Dear Stan, my friend,

Channelings are a very debatable subject.

While some of them might be genuine indeed, some others might be many other things.

Schizophrenia, fantastic imagination, simple charlatanism, misused creativity, malign entities, collective telepathic interference and even, for the most bold conspiracy theorists, AIs and psy-ops.

In this case, I don´t think that such trip will actually happen. I don´t think those channelings are genuine.

ETs don´t need to be channeled. If, hypothetically, they wanted to send such message, they could do it in many much more effective ways. They could actually, send this supposed invitation personally, to each of the invited persons, instead of choosing a single person to spread the message and manage the invitees list.

Personally, I think it sounds very much like a bad script written for a b-class sci-fi movie.

Mr.Steven Spielberg has done a much better job with "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", from 1977, in which a very similar story was told.

I don´t even need to say this is my opinion, my point of view. Anyone has the right analyze this situation and take different conclusions, of course.

Cheers,

Raf.

[ljwheat]

I wonder? TICK tock, how? Much Time I have chosen to sit here in front of you exercising my finger’s.

Keep the masses busy, ? Dose this busy mean anything that draws my focus and holds it for what”? ten minutes, half hour two hours? Looking the other way from what?

Busy with words in my head, throwing them in front of you to get, hopefully some sort of response or recognition to something that only exists in my head were my focus, intent or image.

Getting caught up in anything outside of self empowered activity, first building the energy up, storing or projecting, keeping the energy or giving it away? In a forum, phone call, to a friend, to only have to rebuild the energy one has just given away.

Holding the light, letting it build a presence allowing it to stretch and expand beyond the limits I have learned to place on a acceptable release point, should I explode I’ve been conditioned to believe.

Letting go of my energy to anything outside of myself, constantly exhaling energy?

At the coast of what? Not being socially politically correct, being labeled a bump on a log, stuck up, pier pressure at a very early age to be acceptable and in the know?

At what coast has this thinking and regurgitating my awareness of being out into this matrix or has it been sucked away by design as David Icke has so well pointed out.

And now this forum, if now vigilant on content, ---can or letting it suck the energy or light out of us.--------- One addiction traded for another?

At what point dose one hold the light, or release it?

As in Star Wars when Anakin was wondering off topic, “stay here and now young pad a wan, the future has its own time and place, so to stay in the force that is here and now." Hell they could have went and shot a game of pool", or watched a good hologram, or stayed home and discussed Bill Woods to keep all of us so distracted, do we really have all that much time on our hands,

And why? And who dose this serve, especially now? 20212012

Problem- who’s? reaction-who’s, solution for who? Are we becoming yet another distraction directed at each other threw past indoctrination threw habit and conditioning?

[Virma De Ris]

Part of being aware and awake is understanding that one can be made a fool of, but the most important part of being aware and awake is to avoid or neutralize a future attempt at being made a fool of. We all want so bad to be saved in one way or another that we tend to seek outside ourselves for these heroes to appear. I blame organized religion on this as we have been conditioned to look outside ourselves for salvation from ourselves. ETs are equal to any earthling and viceversa. Don't look for a way out from them as they can also err. Also don't shoot the messenger as probably he had the best intentions at his core but don't forget that he was wrong. This are just my thoughts which I wanted to share with you all. Some might agree and some might not and that's ok with me as I simply wanted to share this with you all.

[Billy]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
I wonder? TICK tock, how? Much Time I have chosen to sit here in front of you exercising my finger’s.



And why? And who dose this serve, especially now? 2021

Cool, you can tell us if disclosure did happen in 2012 and did anyone go on the joy ride.

only kidding, i know it was a typo. but i loved it.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Virma De Ris (here)
Part of being aware and awake is understanding that one can be made a fool of, but the most important part of being aware and awake is to avoid or neutralize a future attempt at being made a fool of. We all want so bad to be saved in one way or another that we tend to seek outside ourselves for these heroes to appear. I blame organized religion on this as we have been conditioned to look outside ourselves for salvation from ourselves. ETs are equal to any earthling and viceversa. Don't look for a way out from them as they can also err. Also don't shoot the messenger as probably he had the best intentions at his core but don't forget that he was wrong. This are just my thoughts which I wanted to share with you all. Some might agree and some might not and that's ok with me as I simply wanted to share this with you all.

Hello Virma,

I agree with you. It´s not ethical to shoot the messenger.

However, many people have taken advantage over this situation, pretending to be a messenger just to avoid being shot. It´s a very old trick.

If, somehow, someone finds out that a person is deliberately pretending to be a messenger, to spread misleading messages for any reason, with impunity, this person should be legally prosecuted.

You know, this messenger situation is very comfortable within the alternative media scenario, because it enables an individual to exempt from his responsibilities.

Disguised as a messenger, literally anyone can claim or promise anything and, if such claims or promises do not come to happen, this person can not be considered guilty and lose credibility.

I´d rather thing that, in this case, any person should be responsible from anything that comes directly from his/her mouth, hands, body and any other physical form of communication and manifestation of intention.

Cheers,

Raf.

[blufire]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

[Billy]

Posted by viking (here)

Interesting response here at ATS

irst Ever Post From The MotherShip Neptune!!! -

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1773987/pg1

02/04/2012

It was a long tour. It's a big ship.
A literal flying city. Sorry I didn't report back sooner. I was
exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information
I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks
were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to
use that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this
time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public. It was
suppose to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the
attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve
him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told
that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this
becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they
said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be
contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.

Today I am allowed to take photos and
post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I
need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.
Can't believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too
public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every
move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident
is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the
terminals on the ship don't have a USB port so I will ask the adviser
assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the
next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear.
quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was
most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys
gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don't want this
open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially
by passing the 'official government channels'. Might we actually learn
the truth for ourselves without 'gov't officials' filtering it first!
this is inevitable. And from what I"ve learned what you gotta realize
is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big
galactic picture. There are many billions more humans living throughout
the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite
naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made
contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us
as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap.
Poverty. We are in quite a sad state. Hopefully this will all change
soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson
about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be.
Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to
believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for
his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact,
the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his
labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted
to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest
of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at
83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit
different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to
post yesterday I got a message "Banned from GLP" from the ship lol. God
knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts
before I was finally able to post. This isn't my normal GLP ID. So
whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark
cabal to derail this at every chance

They don't use deodorant! I forgot my
deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they
don't use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave
me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4
of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort
of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the
pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it
was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where
this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she
didn't seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway
hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are
literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine.
I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some
planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out.
But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it
isn't. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of
this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in
this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the
earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the
photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be
able to use one of their 'image capturing devices' to take pictures
which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times
friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system
to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one
thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, "In the
house of my father there are many mansions". Indeed there are. Today I
saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply
unreal. But the thing is... it IS real. I feel much much happier. I
have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is
just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

I see the other 24 trippers have forgotten to phone home and send photo's. deary me, what are they like

[beyondmyctrl]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

.

Two of the smartest things I've read on this forum in a long long time... Thanks Raf you give me hope... I wouldn't worry about your English so much , it's actually much better than a lot of people's here, including mine.

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by blufire (here)
I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Yessssss!

I think you'd enjoy 9eagle9's posts on the "Discernment with Bill and Atticus" thread. It's along the same lines.

I'm with you.

Kathie

[beyondmyctrl]

Posted by blufire (here)
I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Hitting the "Thanks" button just didn't feel like enough, I'm with you all the way Blufire..

[another bob]

Posted by blufire (here)
I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by blufire (here)
I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

When you search within and without for the truth you will turn over quite a few rocks. If you predict that each rock will yield nothing you will be right most of the time. So why bother? Why live?

So you were right that the joyride didn't turn out as predicted, that doesn't make you or any other negative person a genius. Just negative and too quick to point out that you were right.

If you have your eyes closed in laughter of others you will never see it, even if it is right in front of you.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by noprophet (here)
I'm fairly sure this could all be a bit of fun but you seem rather certain. It that information or opinion based?

I would be surprised of one being so quick to judge who claims such unbelievable experiences.

Sorry, I sometimes forget my own background with the material I provided here when exercising my right to critique others.

Lets say .... its an informed opinion.

[RMorgan]

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by blufire (here)
I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

When you search within and without for the truth you will turn over quite a few rocks. If you predict that each rock will yield nothing you will be right most of the time. So why bother? Why live?

So you were right that the joyride didn't turn out as predicted, that doesn't make you or any other negative person a genius. Just negative and too quick to point out that you were right.

If you have your eyes closed in laughter of others you will never see it, even if it is right in front of you.

Again, another misuse of the term negativity, which is becoming very fashionable in this forum (only loses to "resonate").

If a person doesn´t agree with something you say, or with what the majority say, it doesn´t mean this person is negative.

If a person agrees with everything you say, or with what the majority say, it also doesn´t mean this person is positive.

In fact, the use of the words positive/negative as adjectives implied to persons, is very very imprecise and ambiguous.

Cheers,

Raf.

[9eagle9]

Lol..I take it the ship didn't show up?

[Andreash94]

I'm starting to belive evrything is fake even our truth,realiti,startign to lose a hope that et or sombody wil come even in this year and save us ..... i caind of say weare doomed we maked this whith our oun hands and we get the paybacktime..