Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Carmody]

Thanks Mod, I love that kinda stuff.

This one is slightly low quality...but it is awesome. I used to subscribe to digital blasphemy. (from whence it hails)

http://todayswall.com/files/imagecac...canyon1920.jpg (found link on net)

An image for us winterish folks. (just found it. To walk out your door...and see that.)




And..Larry Niven's Ringworld. A world with the surface area.. of 3.7 million earths.

People try to recreate the impression of such a thing..and they just can't quite get there. But one begins to get a glimpse, in the mind, of the sheer scale. But....the mind almost breaks. My knees get weak from just the thought of looking up into the sky...at that. It circles right around the sun.....

http://www.clancamp.com/screenshots/.../ringworld.jpg

http://www.orionworks.com/shop/SVJSh..._Dawn_1000.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ai3TT4Szc-...ey-skinner.jpg

2 million kilometers wide, and 950 million kilometers long (around).

When you look at this, remember, to visit someone....it is not maybe 1000km, or even lets say, like flying to the other side of the planet. No..... 2 million km wide. (the wall is 1600km high) The feeling of insignificance and total connection..would be complete. Who says that science fiction has no soul? It would be burned into your existence, right from birth. In this 'shopped' image, imagine that when it finally takes shape out of the atmospheric clouding and cover, and comes up into definition due to it's curvature...we are talking about that point on the lowest horizon, being some good 2-2.5 million km's away. (!)

If one where to go the distance of 1/3rd of the way to the moon, straight up from the surface....and look down the rotational axis..it might look something like this:



Remember, that is 100,000km up from the surface. not feet, or meters...but 100k km.

In the book, there is an earth a 'replication' that was set up. Here it is, to scale.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sR2296df-bc

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Thanks Mod, I love that kinda stuff.



And..Larry Niven's Ringworld. A world with the surface area.. of 3.7 million earths.
Snip...

When you look at this, remember, to visit someone....it is not maybe 1000km, or even lets say, like flying to the other side of the planet. No..... 2 million km wide. (the wall is 1600km high) The feeling of insignificance and total connection..would be complete. Who says that science fiction has no soul? It would be burned into your existence, right from birth. In this 'shopped' image, imagine that when it finally takes shape out of the atmospheric clouding and cover, and comes up into definition due to it's curvature...we are talking about that point on the lowest horizon, being some good 2-2.5 million km's away. (!)

If one where to go the distance of 1/3rd of the way to the moon, straight up from the surface....and look down the rotational axis..it might look something like this:



Remember, that is 100,000km up from the surface. not feet, or meters...but 100k km.

In the book, there is an earth a 'replication' that was set up. Here it is, to scale.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sR2296df-bc

I love this kind of stuff, too.
Was fascinated reading somewhere (can't remember where) about a guy on a planet which had two suns.
Had me thinking about the four times of day, when both suns would be below the horizon, when both would be above, then only one, then the other.
Made me realize that our concept of duality might well be linked to the fact that we only have one sun. It is "burned into our existance, right from birth". Well said.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Wow. Thank you Carmody for the post. My sense of understanding of scale is no longer the same. That makes me yearn for something that I can't readily identify.

The same with Meetings of Remarkable Men, which Ulli posted earlier.

I can't put my finger on it, but most enriching, here and now in the village:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LnSXfG9cipY

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Thanks Mod, I love that kinda stuff.



And..Larry Niven's Ringworld. A world with the surface area.. of 3.7 million earths.
Snip...

When you look at this, remember, to visit someone....it is not maybe 1000km, or even lets say, like flying to the other side of the planet. No..... 2 million km wide. (the wall is 1600km high) The feeling of insignificance and total connection..would be complete. Who says that science fiction has no soul? It would be burned into your existence, right from birth. In this 'shopped' image, imagine that when it finally takes shape out of the atmospheric clouding and cover, and comes up into definition due to it's curvature...we are talking about that point on the lowest horizon, being some good 2-2.5 million km's away. (!)

If one where to go the distance of 1/3rd of the way to the moon, straight up from the surface....and look down the rotational axis..it might look something like this:



Remember, that is 100,000km up from the surface. not feet, or meters...but 100k km.

In the book, there is an earth a 'replication' that was set up. Here it is, to scale.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sR2296df-bc

I love this kind of stuff, too.
Was fascinated reading somewhere (can't remember where) about a guy on a planet which had two suns.
Had me thinking about the four times of day, when both suns would be below the horizon, when both would be above, then only one, then the other.
Made me realize that our concept of duality might well be linked to the fact that we only have one sun.
It is also "burned into our existance, right from birth".
Well said.

[ulli]

My post also arrived in duplicate form...so it's happening to more than one.
This is weird sh................

[ViralSpiral]

Recommendation for hiccups:
Stand on your head and sip water

and how come you arent sleeping Ulli?

I watched this last night. What a gem!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MvLGuSOLNQA

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by modwiz (here)
I ended my fast a day early. All the talk about food in this thread just made me want to throw something across my taste buds. Hunger was not the problem. I am at least 10 pounds overweight so any feeling of hunger had to be BS, LOL. I will start again in a day or two and see about staying out of this thread. I did not see food thrown about in other threads. A lot of crap, yes, LOL.

Apologies if I played a part. It has been fun though

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
Whoops, posted twice. Request to delete this duplicate post. Thanks.

-Playdo

Posted by ulli (here)
My post also arrived in duplicate form...so it's happening to more than one.
This is weird sh................

Yeah - you two were posting around about the time of the nightly backup, which stalls the forum server software for several minutes. That's when most duplicate posts appear, whether due to confusion of human or computer, I don't actually now.

Ilie and I are working on something that might improve this ... changes to the way that nightly backups run that will significantly reduce their impact.

[ulli]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
Recommendation for hiccups:
Stand on your head and sip water

and how come you arent sleeping Ulli?

I watched this last night. What a gem!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MvLGuSOLNQA

Ulli never sleeps.....

[Carmody]

Was fascinated reading somewhere (can't remember where) about a guy on a planet which had two suns

Two moons?

The Architect of Sleep



It's really too bad...as it was a great book.

About a guy (human and a martial arts expert, which the author really is) going spelunking..and passes through a cave which is similar to the piezoelectric quartz type 'natural' gates we hear about..into an alternate time line..where racoons ended up being the dominant force, the ones who made it to the top. They are dominated or ruled by a precognitive ruler type religious caste, but most have a bit of skill of some sort. The main character's martial arts skills are a joke to these incredibly capable precog intelligent bipedal racoons. Considered to be one of THE original 'furry critter' sci-fi fantasy stories.

Such an awesome title and cover. I've been waiting for the sequel since 1987.

[ulli]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
Whoops, posted twice. Request to delete this duplicate post. Thanks.

-Playdo

Posted by ulli (here)
My post also arrived in duplicate form...so it's happening to more than one.
This is weird sh................

Yeah - you two were posting around about the time of the nightly backup, which stalls the forum server software for several minutes. That's when most duplicate posts appear, whether due to confusion of human or computer, I don't actually now.

Ilie and I are working on something that might improve this ... changes to the way that nightly backups run that will significantly reduce their impact.

I doubt it, not as long as Carmody is talking about earth replicas.....

[ViralSpiral]

Oh good, we can chat around the fireplace then
I'll get the coffee.
I think Carmody needs to come clean whom he was "remoting".
A few possible food bon vivants .....

[Guest]

Amazing pictures

Took me a few times to get the above video Carmody posted to play -wouldn't play.
After I got it started watched it a few times.

Would feel weird to see another planet with a moon on the horizon. Definitely weirder to see a crystalline ring(s) around the sun.

Looking at the pictures felt like I was going to fall into energy vortices or ride a wave scale up and over to another solar system.

Love

Nora

[Lisab]

I watched Meetings with Remarkable Men too. Loved it. Im sure Ive seen it before on some wet Sunday afternoon, but of course now its taken on meaning. I really want to read Ouspenskys The Fourth Way.

Woke up this morning to a murmeration of starlings! Yay!

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Was fascinated reading somewhere (can't remember where) about a guy on a planet which had two suns

Two moons?

The Architect of Sleep



It's really too bad...as it was a great book.

About a guy (human and a martial arts expert, which the author really is) going spelunking..and passes through a cave which is similar to the piezoelectric quartz type 'natural' gates we hear about..into an alternate time line..where racoons ended up being the dominant force, the ones who made it to the top. They are dominated or ruled by a precognitive ruler type religious caste, but most have a bit of skill of some sort. The main character's martial arts skills are a joke to these incredibly capable precog intelligent bipedal racoons. Considered to be one of THE original 'furry critter' sci-fi fantasy stories.

From Wikifur:

"Where's the rest of THE ARCHITECT OF SLEEP?
In a box in my closet. For the longest time I've had every intention of finishing it, but thanks to the existence of (and the kind of mail I get from) furries, I've changed my mind."


Another furry novel I read, and can't remember title nor author's name....maybe someone can fill me in
About a scientist who had been on assignment on the sea floor, in an underwater bell, and when several weeks later he came back to the surface ship everyone had died of radiation poisoning, WW3 had happened while he was down there...and he found one survivor...a fellow scientists pet monkey....a chimpanzee, I think, and which had a bandage
around it's throat. So he removes the bandage and sees two copper wires sticking out of it's skin. As he connects the wires the monkey starts to speak...
"i've been waiting for someone to do this..."
Monkey is 100% coherent, only problem is the scientist is Jewish, and the monkey's former handler was a fundie Christian...still, despite their often hefty religious debates they begin a lasting relationship...the monkey is a female... and it sorta goes into an Adam and Eve type of scenario....

[Guest]

As soon as I am able to I will watch the full series of Meetings with Remarkable Men. Thank you for that Ulli.

I love the cover art for Architect of Sleep.

Love

Nora

[ulli]

Posted by Lisab (here)
I watched Meetings with Remarkable Men too. Loved it. Im sure Ive seen it before on some wet Sunday afternoon, but of course now its taken on meaning. I really want to read Ouspenskys The Fourth Way.

Woke up this morning to a murmeration of starlings! Yay!

The best introduction to the Fourth Way is Ouspensky's In Search Of The Miraculous.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6443168/Ou...the-Miraculous

[Lisab]

Aahh thankyou Ulli. I can see I got mixed up there. Il have a look on amazon today.

[meeradas]

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
This takes me far far away..........

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C9B8bXdxgr8

meeradas...
dissolves in-to an
extremely slo-mo'ed
plume of divine fragrance

[meeradas]

Wow, had almost forgotten one of my fav reads of a coupla decades ago.
All this ring-worlding and two-or-more-sunning reminds me of a dream i had,
though it's sth completely different:

Been inside a hollow planet, very small scale (felt like a... potato, compared to earth).
Imagine ripe green fields wherever you look, even overhead.
All this was guarded by 'tall grumpy dwarves' - maybe 8 ft tall,
and grumpy 'cause of my obviously completely unexpected intrusion.
After having proven my harmlessness to them, one showed me around.
Keepers of the Harvest, permanently growing organic things, hidden from sight
and any possible outside influence. The good that grows unspoiled by the surface madness.

The hollow world had round portals to other worlds - one could look right into sth completely different.


Thanks for the awesome pics [which served as a memory trigger]!!

Does anyone know Hans-Werner Sahm?