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    Not to put a damper on things, but why does anyone think that changing the monetary system will change anything? The Cabal will still be around to continue what they've planned for. How much you bet, that in a short time, the cabal will be back at it and using the new system while they're at it?
    It's funny that Fulford doesn't have the Rothschilds on the list....They should be at the top of the list as Public Enemy Number 1.

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    Quote Posted by finally there!!! (here)
    Anything that revolves around making people pay to live doesn't resonate with me.. I just don't believe in money any more
    I remember Alex Collier saying that in one of the PC seminars... and while that would be a very nice way to live... it would require a massive paradigm shift of everyone on the planet almost OVERNIGHT!

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    Quote Posted by finally there!!! (here)
    Anything that revolves around making people pay to live doesn't resonate with me.. I just don't believe in money any more
    Same here. Money is a joke. There is so much food that you can get for free out in the wild, be it on the plains or in forests. Sadly, most rely on the system so badly that they have no clue what's edible other then what's in the stores.

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    Maia,

    I believe the Rothschilds are likely lumped into the Rockefeller group. As the clintons and current president is considered part of the Bush Family. The way I understand it from many many independent sources and per what Ben has said in previous post. The Cabal wont be "left to the own devices" when they are taken down. If they even survive the end of the year, they will be either "Dealt With" and "neutralized" which means "dead" as a door nail. Or placed in one of the FEMA Camps, etc. No one on the "good guys" side wants to see them breath much longer.
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    Quote Posted by Darla Ken Jensen Pearce (here)
    If the LIFE agency can get the rights to use gold-backed Yen overseas and can begin hiring staff, there is no technical or logistical reason why it should not be possible to end poverty and stop environmental destruction this year.
    Does this not pass the logic test for anyone else?


    How does "more moneY" fix anything? we do not need a new financial system, we need a new economic system, where the ACTUAL definition of ECONOMY is used.......

    that's just the first thing that bugs me about this "story"....

    oh,,, & how will adding 4 quadrillion dollars (or however much the White Dragon family (?) has) do anything but cause massive inflation? why would the answer to our current problem be "more of the same" ?
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    Doesn't a new financial system generally also imply a new economics system? One has to exist for the other to exist, like good and evil must co-exist for balance to be possible in the universe.
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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Doesn't a new financial system generally also imply a new economics system? One has to exist for the other to exist, like good and evil must co-exist for balance to be possible in the universe.
    unfortunately not... buying habits (consumerism (aka economy)) & profit above all will still be mainitained.

    Profit over all is the problem... Profit should NOT BE the ultimate goal... I've explored this subject extensively and still don't have a clear idea of a fix.. but it certainly isn't changing the way money works... that will "help" but it won't fix "planned obsolesence" & other **** like that..

    Why do you think WAR is SO profitable? because most the **** used there is a "one time use" item... for MILLIONS of dollars a piece (at times).

    THIS is what needs correcting... everyone should learn that being a CONSERVATIVE is the highest calling, that ECONOMY means making something the most efficentway posisble.. that includes something that lasts "as long as possible" not something that lasts a year or two then breaks forcing a re-purchace...

    this basicaly means you have to take profit (as we know it... profit = $$$ currently) OUT of the equation, or drasticaly change the current meaning of PROFIT.


    one of my basic ideas is an achievement system, the more you benifit humanity (starting from family -> community -> area -> etc...) you'd build up "credits" so you don't have to work for a set time or you continue to get compensated (in some mannor) & do not have to "work" to live... the compensation would be proportonate to the usefulness /helpfulness to "the whole"...

    ideas like that are what we need (that was a 2 second keyboard ramble.. obviously not fleshed out at all)
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    I agree with most of what you've said and certainly this is all going to require a huge mind-set or paradigm change, that's a given. But, far as I know there are currently at least six different offers of how to overhaul the financial system on the table, and I know of at least two more that are being drawn up to be presented. It will take time to effect all the changes, and really make a difference. But, do I think it's possible? Yes, absolutely. I admit I am not in any small terms as experienced in finances and economics as you seem to be, but the way things have been explained to me from certain people, I think this will entirely be possible.

    And, far as I understand it. Ben is only letting out tiny crumbs of information regarding this situation so no one here is getting the whole big pictured. And rightfully so, if he laid all the cards on the table and every last detail, it would give the CABAL an unfair and unreasonable advantage and edge they might try to exploit to gain some footing as they fall. Not something anyone wants. And, I think also what many seem to here be missing and not understanding is what I just said, and there for are going off half cocked with only a few tiny pieces and condemning something they don't fully understand and being absolutely unreasonable and illogical about it.

    If I've learned nothing more, and granted I've learned a LOT in the past 6-8 months alone (than I've learned almost my entire 30yrs of being on this planet). Is the amount of layers and complexities that go into this great big universe and even the reality we perceive here on earth. And that opinions should not be blindly cast without fully understanding the entire situation, even with dealing with individual people, individual ET/ED's, Individual situations, moments, etc. And, the necessity for literally existing only "In The Moment" when ever possible because of how much things can and do change in an instant.
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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    the necessity for literally existing only "In The Moment" when ever possible
    if you've learned that & nothing else you've benifited


    the rest I'd file away as "possible" or "entertaining".. Knowledge (information to an extent) is power so I turn none of it away.... but t he above is FAR from plausable IMO... I hope to be proven wrong though.
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    I actually agree with the concept that swapping the personnel at the apex of the global financial/power pyramid (if it actually happened) would not have a major impact on Global Rule and oligarchical ownership of the planet. Still (again, if this whole tale was true), it would be nice to see the cabal members that are responsible for so much suffering and death get dethroned, and stripped of all assets (and the assets used to build and distribute FE devices and clean up the planet. Also, all of our sleepy friends and family that refused to believe that these oligarchs are evil (and no, we're not just jealous of rich people) might get one hell of a wake-up call with this.

    (By the way, there are two Rothschild names on the list.)

    For whatever strategic reason, the oligarchical Global Rulers have been using the US dollar as the "standard" and the Federal Reserve as their financial headquarters (or should that be headwaters.) It is also greatly to their advantage if the "solution" is to go to gold-backed currency (a gold standard), because, well, they have all the gold. Reportedly, there is very very little gold held in reserve, owned by the US government. The US government has nowhere near enough gold to back the US dollar. Gold prices are volatile, meaning that the dollar 's value would rise and fall on a whim, interest rates following. And besides (and this is a critical point), having a gold standard means the oligarchs would always have the ability to manipulate gold prices to control the value of the dollar. Having a vast amount of money is powerful; having control over money is vastly more powerful.

    The best solution I have seen (and yes, this is US-centric, but affects world economy and monetary policy) is a proposed US law (act), called the Monetary Reform Act

    Ben, if you monitor these posts, make sure everyone sees this brilliant proposal. THIS would change the monetary game, making the US a sovereign nation once again (after nearly 100 years of oligarchical rule), would create stable currency and a stable economy, would take away the major operating theater of the oligarchs, and would make gold just another metal. Who knows, maybe gold is just the perfect metal to draw into wire that will never corrode, to be used to wind the generator motors for the Zero Point Energy/Free Energy devices all over the world.

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    I'll add: the LEAST plausible entry for me is that "the Pentagon" contains true white hats. I believe all the hats there are blood red. If we are relying on professional warriors, steeped in war, and tempered in blood to arrest bad guys... well, like I said - not too damn plausible.

    And if I hear one more time that Obama is really a good guy, my head will explode - just like the heads of the "suspected terrorists" targeted from the air and killed by drone planes.

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    I'll add: the LEAST plausible entry for me is that "the Pentagon" contains true white hats. I believe all the hats there are blood red. If we are relying on professional warriors, steeped in war, and tempered in blood to arrest bad guys... well, like I said - not too damn plausible.
    Well... You've got me!

    but I'm not at the pentagon.. nor anywhere significant :-/... but the OathKeepers, we are real & that gives me hope...

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    And if I hear one more time that Obama is really a good guy, my head will explode
    I agree there... that's the BIGGEST crock of crap I've ever heard....

    what "good guy" authorizes the assaination of his own people in clear violation of the constitution.... Democrats are worse than republicans because they hide their corruption behind "sympathy" and "helping" fronts... at least the republicans seem to be openly greedy..

    But Obama a "good guy" that's top shellf comedy right there!
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    these whole Ben Fulford stories might be what David Icke call it "Problem-reaction-solution"...

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    A new economic system is all very well, but until everyone understands that the resources of this planet are finite and so easily polluted and put out of balance, causing a domino effect that can be ruinous...
    As we now see clearly if our eyes are even half open, in our skies, our soil, our oceans, our food supply, our bodies; from the microcosm to the macrocosm...
    Then people are going to keep on buying and investing in things that are harmful.

    There has to be a massive, world wide re-education program, particularly in industrialized cultures and the 3rd world cultures that are seeking to emulate them.
    Bringing peace and prosperity to our world is going to be just the first step in an enormous overhaul of the way in which we live on this planet.
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    I don't like being the drag but I have to point out that the plan of the elite is to change the monetary system, and create a one world government, along with a one world government army. Does any of this ring a bell? And all of this happens out of chaos (war, like the never ending one we seem to be in) How anyone can say we aren't already IN WWIII is beyond me. Starting a war to end all wars all over the world takes a lot of stoking of the fires.

    Further, our government has become so corrupt, its no longer about who's the best candidate, its about who has the most money, and don't think for one minute that ploy "the super pac law" wasn't planned either. What a lousy law to pass in a democratic republic. It's not just a "bad law", its a horrid law, and our government KNOWS it. They know it. In fact, it's gotten so bad in the U.S., its like watching a bad play. Some in our government know, and some don't. The one's who do know are puppets anyway. How do you speed up change???? WAR!!! WAR!!!

    Let Fulford explain the in our face disappearing Ron Paul phenomena. This too has become so blatantly obvious, it makes me want to hurl. How does one get kicked off of FOX news, they back Ron Paul. And it doesn't matter, who does what, it will be manipulated because that's all they know now... how do we manipulate the population to do this, or that...

    We will see WWIII, not a thing has changed to offset the plans. And then... we will have a one world government. Its happening right before your eyes only you're getting sold on it one teaspoon full at a time coming from people like Ben Fulford.

    I'm sorry, and I'll eat my words if Ben ends up being the real deal but I don't believe a bit of what he has to say, including whatever it was that was supposed to have been removed from his spine.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    A new economic system is all very well, but until everyone understands that the resources of this planet are finite and so easily polluted and put out of balance, causing a domino effect that can be ruinous...
    As we now see clearly if our eyes are even half open, in our skies, our soil, our oceans, our food supply, our bodies; from the microcosm to the macrocosm...
    Then people are going to keep on buying and investing in things that are harmful.

    There has to be a massive, world wide re-education program, particularly in industrialized cultures and the 3rd world cultures that are seeking to emulate them.
    Bringing peace and prosperity to our world is going to be just the first step in an enormous overhaul of the way in which we live on this planet.
    Hey, there's always agenda 21 waiting for you!

    I detest the idea of re-education programs. It smacks of brainwashing.

    We dont need a new economic system
    nor a new finance system
    or even a new government

    we need a new consciousness

    until that day it will just be more of the same
    so dont delude yourself in fairy tails
    of knights on white horses
    for without the right consciousness
    en mass
    the princess in the tower is raped
    as the white knight is slain

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    Quote They say there are now 6 competing plans for a new financial system and none is taking the lead so far. The Pentagon and agency white hats are offering to contribute new energy and new transportation technology.
    The 6 financial plans catch the eye and get the attention, but if by new energy they mean free energy, that is the real game changer and money changes with it. Almost all scarcity is based on energy, and scarcity is what makes money so important. It is our consciousness that makes money the issue of our focus. As Arrowwind correctly points out, we need to change the way we think and starting to think anew now will not be a minute too soon. Changing our consciousness alone makes certain new realities inevitable. With new ways of doing business on this planet evolving it would behoove us all to make sure we are ahead of the developments.
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    I agree, Mod... the one great game changer is ENERGY. But so far no one's going out on a ledge saying anything about making that happen... other than Fulford telling us they are. Why should I believe him? Blind faith? No way.

    I think all of us know that without clean energy, and I mean what some refer to as zero-point, the human race doesn't stand much of a chance of restoring any sort of balance to the world... that is, with the majority of us still in it. Further, the island scenerio where 7.5 billion people surround one tree, well, you know how that goes and it ain't pretty for any living thing on the planet. That's how it will really look because if the pooh hits the fan, a majority of people on the planet will turn into animals looking for food.

    Also, if China has access to zero-point energy, why aren't they using it? What's with the big negotiations? This is a no brainer. It seems to me it really is an all or nothing sort of a deal with a real domino affect. I want to know why we aren't hearing louder voices and real major concern about over-population, over-fishing, over-cutting, and generally over-stepping our boundarys on this planet. I mean real open talk, general public talk. Talks about planning what we can do to make this better over the long haul.

    But why should any of us be suprised about that?
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    I agree, Mod... the one great game changer is ENERGY. But so far no one's going out on a ledge saying anything about making that happen.

    I think all of us know that without it, the human race doesn't stand much of a chance of restoring any sort of balance to the world... that is, with the majority of us still in it. Further, the island scenerio where 7.5 billion people surround one tree, well, you know how that goes and it ain't pretty for any living thing on the planet.

    If China has access to zero-point energy, why aren't they using it? What's with the big negotiations? This is a no brainer. It seems to me it really is an all or nothing sort of a deal with a real domino affect.
    Sygh, the quote in my post is from Fulford's blog. I highlighted the part about new energy. It seems to have been missed and I think it was the important part of the story.

    Why not China? They love control as much or more than any of the large countries. Scarcity of energy is control. Once free energy is available, governments, as we have known them, will be obsolete and useless. They will need to find a new way of operating. Like coordinating things and working for the people. That is why no major government has released it. It is their death as they know themselves.
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    I agree, Mod... the one great game changer is ENERGY. But so far no one's going out on a ledge saying anything about making that happen.

    I think all of us know that without it, the human race doesn't stand much of a chance of restoring any sort of balance to the world... that is, with the majority of us still in it. Further, the island scenerio where 7.5 billion people surround one tree, well, you know how that goes and it ain't pretty for any living thing on the planet.

    If China has access to zero-point energy, why aren't they using it? What's with the big negotiations? This is a no brainer. It seems to me it really is an all or nothing sort of a deal with a real domino affect.
    Sygh, the quote in my post is from Fulford's blog. I highlighted the part about new energy. It seems to have been missed and I think it was the important part of the story.

    Why not China? They love control as much or more thna any of the large countries. Scarcity of energy is control;. Once free energy is available, governments, as we have known them, will be obsolete and useless. They will need to find a new way of operating. Like coordination things and working for the people. That is why no major government has released it. It is their death as they know themselves.
    Well, Mod, I can go with that, and have for many, many years... but not any more because it only fits up to a point, and that point is the 100th Monkey (or, human in this case); the straw that broke the camels back; the tipping point, the future that everyone will experience, regardless of race, religion, creed, or political affiliation. We are at that place (the apex), we are in that time.

    And the PTB?W had better worry because unless they live off planet, they will be the first targeted. I'd like to think everyone was benevolent but they aren't. This is no joke.

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